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Cloudy Conclusions

Cloudy Conclusions

By CinderRello

a true-crime podcast that goes into cases that appear one way, but soon takes a turn for the unexpected. the host explores information released post-trial, or not discussed at all, with a comedic take and, sometimes, a different conclusion.
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From Pinup to Lockup

Cloudy ConclusionsNov 14, 2022

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56:16
Dude, Where's My Date?

Dude, Where's My Date?

This week, we will learn about the brutal attacks on four women by a familiar face... to them, not to us. But this case came across our radar only because of another 'That 70s Show' alum apparent involvement. What is going on over there in Hollywood?! Well, listen along as we get the truth behind the misplaced rumors.

After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


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Sources for this week:

https://www.scienceofpeople.com/dunning-kruger/#:~:text=Overestimation%20is%20a%20person's%20thinking,the%20limits%20of%20their%20abilities.

https://www.crimelibrary.org/serial_killers/predators/michael-gargiulo/1-southern-california.html


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9020891/hollywood-ripper-trial-michael-gargiulo-michelle-murphy/


https://www.dailynews.com/2019/08/22/was-hollywood-ripper-sane-when-he-killed-ashton-kutchers-girlfriend-and-other-women-jury-to-decide/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG2L1FqyFHo&t=742s

Oct 11, 202333:49
Goodbye Wisconsin!

Goodbye Wisconsin!

This week, we will be covering Danny Masterson and all of his wrongdoings that were covered up by the Church of Scientology. Though many people were blindsided by this case, this has been in the making for decades. Now that the cloak of the church has lifted, Danny is being rightfully punished for his crimes. But what led to this downfall?

After reading and preparing for this case, my conclusion is far from cloudy.


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After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


If you are a listener on Spotify, please be sure to scroll below for episode polls and questions!

If you are a listener on Apple, please rate and review!


Sources for this week:


https://www.egattorneys.com/one-strike-law-penal-code-667-61#:~:text=The%20One%2DStrike%20Rule%20Explained,combined%20with%20the%20aggravating%20circumstances.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/26/us/danny-masterson-rape-trial.html


https://tonyortega.org/2017/03/03/lapd-probing-scientology-and-danny-masterston-for-multiple-rapes-cover-up/


https://apnews.com/article/danny-masterson-rape-trial-2023-6894e08e52f6f33d7293b4e9cb8baeae




Oct 03, 202329:25
Snitches Get Stitches

Snitches Get Stitches

This week, we will be looking into the case of Terry Neely, and how he bragged to the wrong person of his misdeeds. In this episode, we will discuss the horrific crime committed by Angela Simpson. She had told him and told him until she had to show him.

After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


If you are a listener on Spotify, please be sure to scroll below for episode polls and questions!


Sources for this week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ngtXPP5krU

https://murderpedia.org/female.S/s/simpson-angela.htm

https://talkmurder.com/angela-simpson/

https://readtheaudio.com/cold-hearted-the-twisted-story-of-angela-simpson/

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/angela-simpson-gets-life-in-prison-plus-a-little-extra-for-savage-murder-of-disabled-man-6646577

Sep 26, 202323:52
First Comes Love, Then Comes.. Murder?

First Comes Love, Then Comes.. Murder?

This week, we will be looking into the twisted fairytale of the Winger family. Mark and Donnah Winger was the perfect couple, until Prince Charming turned murderous. And he had the perfect fall guy. So how did the story unravel?


After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


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Sources for 'True Crime News':


https://nypost.com/2023/08/29/woman-allegedly-shoots-dead-4-year-old-girl-claims-it-was-firearm-safety-lesson/


https://www.foxnews.com/us/woman-fatally-shot-4-year-old-point-blank-range-says-firearms-safety-lesson-police



Sources for this week:


https://abc.com/shows/2020/episode-guide/2021-04/16-the-perfect-lie


https://abc7news.com/mark-winger-case-abc-2020-the-perfect-lie-rebecca-simic/10522876/


https://www.whas11.com/article/news/local/louisville-rebecca-simic-double-murderer-mark-winger-donnah-winger-abc-2020/417-00e0c1dd-28fe-4dd2-80e5-e97e838196d0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqN9KQ-fLQo


https://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/winger-mark.htm

https://psychologywriting.com/the-interpersonal-deception-theory/

Sep 05, 202345:45
From Pinup to Lockup
Nov 14, 202256:16
Mother May I?
Oct 31, 202251:11
Those Bad News Bears
Sep 12, 202249:41
Labor Day is a Joke
Sep 05, 202233:47
Proper Preparation Prevents Police Misconduct

Proper Preparation Prevents Police Misconduct

This week, we will look into the tragic case of Linah Keza. In this episode, we will look into how the life of an ambitious, young mother got taken brutally away from her by an abusive narcissist. The case grabbed headlines in multiple countries, not just because of the murder but the manner the case was handled. 


After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


If you are a listener on Spotify, please be sure to scroll below for episode polls and questions!



Sources this week:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-27535166

https://www.ugandandiasporanews.com/2013/08/01/miss-africa-contestant-linah-keza-found-stabbed-to-death-next-to-her-crying-daughter-as-police-arrest-a-man-over-her-murder/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF3RQoSONVo

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/09/six-years-after-linah-keza-was-murdered-police-still-fail-domestic-violence-victims


Apr 25, 202243:51
Dark Secrets with Deep Pockets

Dark Secrets with Deep Pockets

This week, we will be looking into the *technically* unsolved case of Martha Moxley. In this episode, we will look into how the life of a beautiful young girl got cut short by an addict on a path of destruction. The case is over 40 years old and has made its rounds in the media, such as news, books, shows, and movies. 


After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


If you are a listener on Spotify, please be sure to scroll below for episode polls and questions!


Sources for this case:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2000/10/dominick-dunne-martha-moxley-murder-greenwich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmoMKKBHQ-k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grvJwB4GJhI

https://www.cnn.com/2013/05/27/us/michael-skakel-fast-facts/index.html

https://heresthefuckingtwist.com/2020/10/27/true-crime-tuesday-the-mischief-night-murder-of-martha-moxley/

https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/true-crime-all-the-time-unsolv-243522/episodes/martha-moxley-53197307

Apr 18, 202255:19
The Smugglers and the Snitch, the Conclusion

The Smugglers and the Snitch, the Conclusion

This week, we will continue the story of Los Gringos. This episode will look into the downfall of a few major American players in the world of cocaine, dubbed as the Cocaine Cowboys. These men took their confidence to new levels, and their flaws cost them a heavy price. Listen as we conclude the story of The Smugglers and the Snitch.

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Sources for this week:

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/jon-roberts-cracked-cowboy-6367635

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cocaine-cowboy-mickey-munday-convicted-for-car-smuggling-10001888

https://servindope.wordpress.com/tag/mickey-munday/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2zds4Mp9e0

Infamous America Podcast, Season 13 Miami Drug Wars

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/infamous-america/id1437525441

Feb 12, 202231:15
The Smugglers and the Snitch

The Smugglers and the Snitch

This week, we will continue our look into the true crime stories of the Miami Drug Wars. In this episode will look into a few major American players in the world of Cocaine, dubbed as the Cocaine Cowboys. These men either aspired to be a part of it, or had no other choice. Either way, they enjoyed the multiple highs until they fell to lows.


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Sources for this week:

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/jon-roberts-cracked-cowboy-6367635

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/cocaine-cowboy-mickey-munday-convicted-for-car-smuggling-10001888

https://servindope.wordpress.com/tag/mickey-munday/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2zds4Mp9e0

Infamous America Podcast, Season 13 Miami Drug Wars

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/infamous-america/id1437525441

Feb 05, 202232:30
Trapped in the Closet

Trapped in the Closet

This week we will be looking into the murder of Jeffrey Freeman. Known as a standup guy in his community, and a dedicated husband, who would want to end Jeffrey's life in such a violent manner? 


Source for this case:

Snapped, S5 EP1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaxNgTm_RZc

https://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/09/21/closet.murder/

https://murderpedia.org/female.F/f/freeman-martha.htm



Jan 28, 202231:33
Everybody won't Eat!

Everybody won't Eat!

This week we will be looking into the case of the Miami River Cops, a team of young cops who became drawn to the fast life of the underworld they were meant to patrol. In an attempt to provide more protection to the community, the police were unaware that they were hiring the immoral. And The Enterprise soon brought notoriety to the Miami Police Department, but was it the right kind?


Sources for this case:

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1987-12-07-8702100181-story.html

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1985-12-28-8503300091-story.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s-gnNfsG84

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-10-06-mn-4469-story.html

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1987-11-08-0160070105-story.html

Jan 25, 202229:07
Ashes, Ashes, We All Fall Down

Ashes, Ashes, We All Fall Down

This week we will be looking into the case of Otylia Gburek, a Polish American woman that grew a name for herself. It was said she had powers of premonition, and you would hope that would be enough notoriety in the early 1900s. However, when people started falling around her, she gained a different type of name: Black Widow.

After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


Sources for this week:

https://murderpedia.org/female.K/k/klimek-tillie.htm

https://mysteriouschicago.com/tillie-klimeks-many-victims-with-pictures/

https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/chicagos-mrs-bluebeard-tillie-klimek

Jan 16, 202233:39
For the Love of Blood

For the Love of Blood

This week, we will be looking into the case of the Richardson Family Murders. This triple homicide shook up the quaint Canadian town and left everybody worried about who the next victim may be. But in this case, a victim soon becomes the accused and leaves everyone with the question, "How could this happen?" 

After reading and preparing for this case, my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


Sources for this week:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/jasmine-richardson

https://murderpedia.org/male.S/s/steinke-jeremy.htm

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/steinke-allegedly-admitted-to-murder-1.343878

https://www.nydailynews.com/true-crime-justice-story/ny-jeremey-steinke-souleater-20201220-cu3bwy3oxbfnrh2zp7xbzjdnz4-story.html

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/jasmine-richardson-walks-free-a-decade-after-as-a-12yearold-she-and-werewolf-boyfriend-massacred-her-family/news-story/f826a2b4efb359bd02b53c4066234bae

https://www.indiewire.com/2021/08/quentin-tarantino-oliver-stone-natural-born-killers-1234654847/

Jan 08, 202235:08
You Ain't a Pimp, You a Fairy

You Ain't a Pimp, You a Fairy

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! 

This week, we will be looking into the case of Lee Shelton, better known as Stagger Lee. A real Christmas story about how Black culture's first notable pimp and gangster went down in oral history. When a night of drinking ends in murder, the who is known, but the why is questionable. Was it all over a hat, or was that cap?

After reading and preparing for this week's case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


**I do not own the rights to this music**

Excerpt Credits:

"Stack-a-lee." 50 Years of Cussing, Volume 2. Rudy Ray Moore.


Sources this week:

http://www.planetslade.com/stagger-lee.html

https://missourilife.com/real-story-behind-bad-man-stagger-lee/

https://www.americanbluesscene.com/a-brief-history-of-stagger-lee-and-billy-lyons/

https://www.kmov.com/news/stagger-lee-the-story-of-st-louis-most-infamous-christmas-murder/article_1b3f631e-45fb-11eb-a470-a38d36b4c246.html

Dec 27, 202124:02
R.I.P. and the R is for Rest, right?

R.I.P. and the R is for Rest, right?

This week we will be looking into the suspicious murder of Teresita Basa. Teresita, an immigrant who came to America looking for a better life, lived an unimposing lifestyle. So why would someone kill her? And what's more suspicious than her murder, is how the case was solved. 

After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


Sources for this week:

https://medium.com/@jennbaxter_69070/did-teresita-basa-solve-her-own-murder-bba7259e022

https://the-line-up.com/teresita-basa

https://paranorms.com/ghost-of-teresita-basa/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1978/09/17/voice-from-the-grave-evokes-a-murder-trial/13b6d805-2413-4015-b70a-b9b28ab5d40d/

https://newspaperarchive.com/arlington-heights-daily-herald-suburban-chicago-jan-18-1979-p-4/


Dec 20, 202129:58
A Mother's Love

A Mother's Love

Surprise! You all get two episodes in one week, due to my hiatus last week. I'm feeling the Christmas spirit and wanted to gift you all with an extra (read as makeup) episode. 

This week, we will be looking into the murder of the New York socialite Irene Silverman, an older woman with a lively spirit. Irene crossed many paths in her long lifetime, and a majority of them loved her; so who did she meet that wanted to dim her light? She may have had money, but she had even more street smarts, so it was widely unexpected to learn she had been conned and met with foul play.

After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


Sources for this week:

https://murderpedia.org/female.K/k/kimes-sante.htm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6431249/Son-murderous-grifter-Sante-Kimes-reveals-taught-kill.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/22/nyregion/sante-kimes-dies-in-prison-at-79-killed-and-swindled-with-her-son.html

https://www.alixkirsta.com/articles/silverman/index.htm

https://www.oxygen.com/snapped/crime-news/sante-kimes-kenneth-kimes-guilty-murdering-irene-silverman

Dec 11, 202132:29
The Girl on the Milk Carton

The Girl on the Milk Carton

This week we will be looking into the Unsolved Mystery about Cynthia Anderson. 20-year-old Cynthia went missing from her place of employment without a trace, and 40 years later, many are still wondering what happened to the young woman. Looking at the details of this case became a cross between "It was bound to happen" and "Who Dunnit?" 

After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


Sources for this week:

https://medium.com/the-mystery-box/the-missing-40-years-later-where-is-cynthia-anderson-8027c2575279

https://charleyproject.org/case/cynthia-jane-anderson

https://talkmurder.com/cynthia-anderson/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLIUkk6Esr0&feature=youtu.be

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/4ggcul/cynthia_anderson_had_nightmares_about_being/

Dec 11, 202125:56
Story of a Soul Survivor

Story of a Soul Survivor

This week we will be looking into the case of Grim Sleeper, a serial killer that terrorized South Central Los Angeles. Over a period of two decades, he murdered at least nine women and attempted to murder Eneitra Washington. The Grim Sleeper caused trauma to not only his victims, survivors included, but the families and community he was a member of. 

If you don't get anything else from this case, get this- Black Women are the least protected humans in this world.


Sources for this case:

https://people.com/crime/grim-sleeper-serial-killer-a-survivor-of-lonnie-franklin-speaks/

https://laist.com/news/the-grim-sleepers-earliest-known-vi

https://homicide.latimes.com/post/grim-sleeper-killings/

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-grim-sleeper-victims-snap-htmlstory.html


Nov 27, 202130:53
All in the Family

All in the Family

This week we will be diving into the case of Clementine Barnabet, the first African American serial killer. Though she was only convicted of one slaying, she claimed to have brought an end to almost 35 lives. Even in the early 1900's this case caused a news frenzy, from the notoriety of her being a Black murderess to the mention of strange voodoo practices. 

After reading and preparing for this case, my conclusion may be a little cloudy. 


Sources for this week's case:

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=SFC19120403.2.43&e=-------en--20--1--txt-txIN--------1

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/502014/voodoo-murders-clementine-barnabet-who-claimed-have-killed-35-people

http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2011/09/clementine-barnabet-louisiana-serial.html

https://the-line-up.com/clementine-barnabet

https://louisianadigitallibrary.org/islandora/object/state-lwp%3A5767

https://gravereviews.com/2020/05/18/clementine-barnabet-the-voodoo-murders/

Nov 20, 202133:30
Molly on the Slopes

Molly on the Slopes

This week's episode is about a young woman named Molly Bloom, who had the looks and the ambition to take her wherever she wanted to go. Listen to how she became an infamous Poker Princess and she fell from the grace of Hollywood heights.


Sources for this case:

Bloom, Molly. Molly's Game. Dey Street Books, 2015.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/the-viper-room-true-story-molly-blooms-illegal-gambling-ring.html/

https://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/mollys-game/

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/hollywood-poker-tobey-maguire-alex-rodriguez-241603/

https://www.justice.gov/archive/usao/cac/Pressroom/pr2009/107.html

Nov 13, 202135:30
What Happened in the Boom Boom Room?

What Happened in the Boom Boom Room?

Ginger Fleischli was a young woman, whose life was tragically taken from her. But by who? The evidence presented in this case might bring more questions than answers, and by the time we get close to the answer, another murder was carried out.

After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


Sources for this case:

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-supreme-court/1773970.html

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-03-23-mn-41399-story.html

https://repository.usfca.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1057&context=usflawreview

https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Judge-says-California-executed-man-who-6300005.php?cmpid=fb-desktop

https://murderpedia.org/male.T/t1/thompson-thomas-martin.htm

Nov 06, 202129:36
Love and Loss: Lessons in Life

Love and Loss: Lessons in Life

In the spirit of dropping during the spooky month; I decided to present a true crime story that occurred in the early hours of Halloween 1984.

Doreen Erbert was enjoying a quiet night, after trick or treating with her 4-year-old daughter... until the Big Bad Wolf came knocking on their door, And when they hesitated to let him in, he decided to change the script and yell, "I'm going to kill you!" 

After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy.


Sources:

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-supreme-court/1462325.html

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1988/08/17/Halloween-killer-found-guilty-in-slaying-of-wife-unborn-child/5090587793600/

https://thecinemaholic.com/where-are-deanna-and-charles-erbert-now/

https://www.oxygen.com/snapped/crime-news/halloween-murders-chilling-cases-snapped-oxygen

Oct 30, 202129:39
Trick or Treat, Smell my.. Breath?

Trick or Treat, Smell my.. Breath?

In the spirit of dropping during the spooky month, I decided to present a true crime story that occurred in the early evening of Halloween night, 1974.

Eight-year-old Timothy O'Bryan was excited to dig into his haul of candy from a great evening of trick or treating, with his family and friends. After eating dinner, washing up for bed, he was finally ready to choose his treasured pick of candy as his nighttime treat. However, he would not ever get the chance to eat the rest of his candy.

After reading and preparing for this case, I think the conclusion is still a little cloudy.


Sources for tonight's case

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1984/03/30/The-ex-wife-of-Ronald-Clark-OBryan-awaiting-execution-for/6595449470800/

https://murderpedia.org/male.O/o1/obryan-ronald-clark.htm

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/candy-man-kills-son-poisoned-halloween-treat-article-1.2850247

https://www.vice.com/en/article/8ge87v/halloween-killer-ronald-clark-o-bryan-candy-man

Oct 23, 202119:60
If Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right, Try Three

If Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right, Try Three

In the spirit of dropping during the spooky month, I decided to present a true crime story that occurred in the late hours of Halloween 1957. 

Peter Fabiano was ending a festive night of Halloween and was settling for bed when one trick or treater came to the door... but, they weren't there for a treat, and they didn't have a trick: they shot him.

After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy


Sources

https://historichorrors.com/2015/10/30/a-murder-on-halloween/

https://thevintagewomanmagazine.com/mid-century-halloween-murder/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/53n88a/the-bizarre-lesbian-murder-scandal-that-rocked-1950s-la

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLUYzwAyvgE

https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2007/10/they-had-planne.html

Oct 16, 202124:09
Religion Can't Save You... or Can It?

Religion Can't Save You... or Can It?

In the spirit of dropping during spooky month, I have decided to present a true crime story that occurred in the early hours of Halloween 1981.

Sister Tadea Benz was found dead in her room by a fellow nun, after missing 6:30 AM mass. the town was soon divided by the different theories and ultimate outcome of this case.

After reading and preparing for this case, I think my conclusion may be a little cloudy. Or maybe, I'm just high lol


Sources:

https://murderpedia.org/male.G/g1/garret-johnny-frank.htm

https://allthatsinteresting.com/johnny-frank-garrett

https://horrorfuel.com/2017/02/05/true-story-frank-johnny-garretts-last-word-arriving-vod-march/

https://www.newschannel10.com/story/34931688/one-on-one-with-johnny-frank-garretts-family/

Oct 16, 202121:43