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Creator Economy Club

Creator Economy Club

By Hugo Amsellem
Every week, we're inviting a founder, a creator, or an investor that is shaping the creator economy!
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“Launching and Scaling Creator Product Lines” with Pietra's CEO Ronak Trivedi

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“Creators don't need managers. They need CEOs” with One Day Ent
Today, creators are no longer simply talents detected & developed by an industry. They are entrepreneurs building & scaling businesses. As a result, the skills and mindset required to work with them are changing completely. Creators need long-term partners optimizing for long-term equity, not short-term cash-flows. How does this shift impact the role of the manager? That’s what we’re going to explore with Zack & Kate from One Day Ent, the management team behind Yes Theory, Airrack & The Cheeky Boyos. They're one of the most entrepreneurial management companies in the space focused on building ownership for their creators. We’ll explore how they’re e.g. enabling Airrack to launch CreatorNow, a 6-weeks cohort-based class to help creators grow their YouTube Channels, as a venture that has the potential to scale beyond just Airrack’s audience & brand.
December 17, 2021
“Building the world’s largest creator gathering” with VidCon’s CEO Jim Louderback
Just a few years ago, if you said you were a YouTuber, people thought you were unemployed. Fast-forward to 2021 and 75% of kids want to become creators. The narrative around creators has massively changed and who better than VidCon to witness first-hand the incredible transformation the whole industry has gone through. From a small gathering of ~1000 YouTubers in LA in 2010 to a global event series gathering 75000+ attendees in 2019, VidCon has really become the annual high mass of the creator world. After a 2020 year in all-remote mode, the conference is back this fall IRL! Top creators, industry leaders & operators will return to the Anaheim Convention Center from Oct. 21-24. That’s why we’re thrilled to host VidCon’s CEO Jim Louderback, who’s not only one of the most knowledgeable people in the industry but also one of its most genuine and enthusiastic advocates!
November 24, 2021
“Launching and Scaling Creator Product Lines” with Pietra's CEO Ronak Trivedi
Creators are working to build engaged audiences from scratch. So why are they still promoting other brands' products and not their own? For a few reasons: Insights: They don't necessarily know what products will work with their audience Products: Translating insights into product lines requires real expertise Logistics: Delivery Ops & support isn't rocket science but cannot fit into a creator's schedule So what do they do instead? They rent their audience to brands (low financial upside and brand downside) They hire an agency to deal with everything (only accessible for large creators) They internalize this function (management, defocus, etc.) That's where Pietra comes in: They help creators launch physical product lines by taking care of everything from them, from product design and tech to operations and delivery. A game-changer. Pietra’s ambition is to enable any creator to capitalize directly on the leverage they've built themselves instead of advertising for others. And they’ve recently raised a Series A led by Funders Fund’s Keith Rabois. So super glad to have hosted Pietra’s CEO Ronak Trivedi to dig deep into this complex topic!
September 29, 2021
"What can the Creator Economy learn from the Music Business?" with Indify's founders
With TikTok, creators and artists are more and more alike. TikTok star Bella Poarch's debut single reaching 400M streams has accelerated the trend. And because music is the first industry to have been taken by the internet tsunami wave, a question arises: What can the creator economy learn from the music industry? Shady contracts, unfair record deals, funding partners, management, legal representation, etc -- the level of toxicity the music industry has cultivated surely is a warning for the emerging creator ecosystem. We’ll explore this captivating topic with one of the most fascinating companies in the space: Indify. They’re building an AngelList for the music industry, helping artists raise funding from strategic partners, building their early team, getting discovered through data, etc. Rolling Stone wrote an amazing article about their model if you want to dig further. We’re thrilled to host Shav, his enthusiasm is contagious and his vision for the future of both the music biz and Indify is crystal clear. That’s how he attracted top investors like former Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian and Cassius Family’s Emmanuel Seugé to build one of the most exciting companies in the music industry.
September 07, 2021
“Creators investing in Startups” w/ Marshall Sandman from Animal Capital
This week, we're stoked to talk with Marshall Sandman, Managing Partner of Animal Capital on Creator Economy Club. Animal Capital is a VC fund with a difference. It's a pioneering company aimed straight at GenZ. Even Animal Capital's GPs and OPs are all under 30. Marshall (age 29) brings venture experience, vetting the businesses, networking, and making investments. GP Michael Gruen (23) has already been an entrepreneur for 10+ years. And OPs Josh Richards (19), Griffin Johnson (22) and Noah Beck (20) are the Gen Z Creators using their pulling power to bring millions of fans into the game. "It only makes sense after having seen an explosion in the number of creators and startup capitals. Well, the next step was obvious creators raising a VC fund." Hugo Amsellem Animal Capital's Limited Partners bring an impressive array of founder experience and star power to the table too. We're talking Mark Randolph (founder of Netflix), Rich Miner (co-founder of Android), Christina Aguilera and Matt Rutler, to name a few. In this episode, you'll learn: Animal Capital brings more than finance to the table when it invests in a business; they also have LPs on board bringing their expertise and experience into the business. "Rich Miner's helpful in the music space… Every single one of my investors provides a unique value to my founders." What Marshall looks for in a business and why they're funding pre-seed and seed rather than writing million-dollar checks. "Parallel Learning's a perfect business for us because it's personally meaningful. And we can help affect the outcome there in a bunch of different ways. They're doing something great for people and they're making money." The Animal Capital "three-bucket" framework — License, Endorse and Own — and why they like to develop ecosystems. "When all those buckets align we're able to drive big results for the business and our investors." The patterns showing founders who are likely to succeed. "Willing to pivot and know that the business as it exists that pre-seed and seed may not be the business that scales." How Creators can diversify and scale their incomes, create content that keeps their core audience on board, and grow an audience to fit their new interests. "But then they can join in new ventures like Josh starting the BFF podcast with Dave Portnoy. That widens the audience." Clubhouse audience members join the conversation with questions and comments on Creators and products, the danger of burnout, and trends in the Creator Economy. Where does Marshall see Animal Capital fitting into the Creator Economy? How can Creators leverage their popularity for good and create a multi-million dollar business at the same time? It's all there and more in this week's show. Links Marshall Sandman Instagram Animal Capital Arm the Creators How to Invest in Creators by Hugo Amsellem
August 18, 2021
"How are top creators growing on YouTube?" with Paddy Galloway
Half of the world's professional creators are YouTubers. Millions of them are trying to beat the algorithm every day!  YouTube Wizard Paddy Galloway has been breaking down the strategies of 24 top creators, amassing millions of views on his own YouTube channel.  So, what did he learn? Feat. Hugo Amsellem, Rodolphe Ködderitzsch & Uri Levanon.
July 27, 2021
"Helping creators build commerce empires" with Spring's CEO Chris Lamontagne
Creators are building DTC merch empires without retailers. Logan Paul says his ‘Maverick’ Merch brand made $40M in its 1st year. But what seems like a commodity today used to be a headache yesterday. Just a few years ago it was still very tricky to sell great merch as an indie creator. You usually needed to "have a merch guy" that not only understood your design needs but also could handle the production process with providers and, more importantly, master the e-commerce intricacies! Fast forward to 2021: you can use and all of that complexity melts away for you. You can essentially have a Merch-team as a Service. That's why we're thrilled to host Spring CEO Chris Lamontagne for our next Creator Economy Club! They started in 2012 as Teespring, went on raising more than $60M from top investors like A16Z, and historically were enabling anyone to sell great merch. They’ve recently rebranded to Spring and now are 1) focusing on creators and 2) helping them not only sell physical product but also digital ones.
April 09, 2021
"Educating the Next Generation of Creators" with Colin & Samir
Creators are scalable individuals. They get near-infinite leverage through platforms & tools. More tools mean more complexity and more pressure! The only way to balance this is with education. But who's educating the creators? Ideally, other creators. Like many things, it's best to learn from people who have done it before. And that's where Colin & Samir come in. They've been playing the creator game for almost 10 years and are now focused on the great mission of educating the next generation of creators. Video after video, they simplify the Creator Economy and distill its essence to allow other creators to focus on what is most important: Making great content.
March 31, 2021
"How are streamers monetizing their audience?" with Alber Emegé from Streamloots
Last year, Twitch viewers watched over 1 trillion hours from 6M creators on the platform. Top streamers are earning millions from donations alone. Alber Emegé thinks he can help them earn 4 times more with his platform, Streamloots. How? They enable superfans to buy real-time interactions with live streamers. Think of Streamloots as a way for viewers to control what happens during the stream with cards from packs dropped in chat. Alber has been building for creators for a few years already and has a strong opinion on the importance of creators owning their audiences. We'll dive into Streamloots' journey and explore a few questions: How are streamers monetizing their superfans? How much can a streamer earn solely from tips per month? How are streamers earning 4x more per fan on Streamloots than on Twitch?
March 23, 2021
MusicBreakr connecting Artists & Creators + Exploring what it means to be a Clubhouse Creator
Hey everyone, this week's (Feb. 12th, 2021) program: 00:00 - Intro 4:30 - MusicBreakr with Anthony Brown 28:00 - What are Clubhouse Creators? With Erika Batista, Robbie Crabtree & Sterling Proffer Brought to you by Jen, Uri & Hugo.
February 15, 2021
Crowdfunded essay on the blockchain, Jellysmack's model, Spring's rebranding & Twitch latest figures
Hey everyone, this week's (Feb. 5th, 2021) program: 4:50 - Crowdfunded essay on the blockchain with John Palmer 23:00 - JellySmack's underrated model with Lauren Schnipper 46:20 - Spring's rebranding and total creator focus 54:30 - Twitch 2020 metrics (engagement, growth, etc) And surprise speakers from the audience! Brought to you by Jen, Uri & Hugo.
February 11, 2021
YouTube 2020 stats, the Newsletter war, Twitter's revue acquisition, Stir's new drop
Hey everyone, this week (Jan. 29th, 2021) we had: 4:14 - Matt Koval (YouTube's creator liaison) talks about his role & the YouTube 2020 stats & trends. 19:10 - Mario Gabriele (The Generalist) with Jason & Rodolphe from Pico talk about moving away from Substack to your own stack. 38:05 - Twitter acquires Revue 48:30 - Stir's new drop with Peter Yang And surprise speakers from the audience! Brought to you by Jen, Uri & Hugo.
February 11, 2021