Dark Depths Podcast

Dark Depths Podcast

By Billy Mitchell & Michael Mapson

Every week, Billy Mitchell and Michael Mapson delve into Modern and Legacy on this Magic: the Gathering podcast. Perfect for your drive to work, Billy and Michael bring humor, skill, and heart to the some of Magic's most difficult formats.
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Eternal Weekend Warm-up - Ep. 160

Dark Depths PodcastNov 15, 2023
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Relics of Tarkir: Dragonstorm - Ep. 205

Relics of Tarkir: Dragonstorm - Ep. 205

Billy and Mapson discuss the cards that have broken through to Modern and Legacy.

Apr 18, 202501:04:34
Top Bird and Sorry Sowers - Ep. 204

Top Bird and Sorry Sowers - Ep. 204

Mapson, fresh off a Legacy Showcase Challenge top 4, regales us with journey before the hosts dive into the new Modern and Legacy bans.

Apr 02, 202549:43
Race to the Finish! - Ep. 203

Race to the Finish! - Ep. 203

Billy and Mapson talk about which cards from Aetherdrift have kicked it into high gear upon set release. We have a high octane episode this week!

Feb 28, 202544:54
2 Fast 2 Curious - Ep. 202

2 Fast 2 Curious - Ep. 202

Billy and Mapson review the Modern Regional Championships from the past weekend and discuss what has raced to their attention from Aetherdrift.

Feb 13, 202556:41
Legacy Showcases and Modern Breakdowns - Ep. 201

Legacy Showcases and Modern Breakdowns - Ep. 201

Billy and Mapson crash course the Legacy format prior to the Legacy Showcase Challenges before wading through the Modern Regional Championship results from around the world.

Jan 31, 202501:13:10
Give Me Your Best! - Ep. 200

Give Me Your Best! - Ep. 200

200 means more knowledge and the boys are serving! Thank you for 200 episodes of love and support! Lend an ear and hang out with Mapson and Billy for some evergreen advice.

Mapson's Threads:

https://x.com/ExpeditionMap/status/1879175751259598953

https://bsky.app/profile/expeditionmap.bsky.social/post/3lfphyqke522g

Jadine's Article: https://articles.starcitygames.com/articles/learning-when-to-blink-in-magic-games/

Jan 15, 202555:19
Favorites of 2024 - Ep. 199

Favorites of 2024 - Ep. 199

Billy and Mapson reflect on the year that was in 2024.

Jan 01, 202558:41
Splinter Twin Situation: B&R Update - Ep. 198

Splinter Twin Situation: B&R Update - Ep. 198

Because we can't decide on a proper title, we'll share some of the names on the cutting room floor.

Frogs on The Bauble - too unclear

Guess Who's Back! - sounds like an Eminem promo

We had so many changes to Modern and Legacy that we needed to talk through what everything meant. We go deep on changes to format curation, what other cards could be unbanned, and what cards escaped for now. - way beyond character limit

B&R Announcement - https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-december-16-2024

Dec 18, 202401:35:13
Forging a Champion w/ Kelvin Wallace - Ep. 197

Forging a Champion w/ Kelvin Wallace - Ep. 197

The boys are back with the 2024 NA Eternal Weekend Legacy champion Kelvin Wallace to discuss his preparation for the event, how he settled on his final list, and what makes Eternal Weekend one of the best events of the year.


Want more Kelvin Wallace? Find him on X at @kjwallace18

Up for some Legacy competition in the Southern Ontario region? Check out Legacy of the North! https://legacynorf.com/who-we-are/

Dec 05, 202401:02:60
Waiting for Pittsburgh - Ep. 196

Waiting for Pittsburgh - Ep. 196

Billy and Mapson return to the microphones after a long hiatus to discuss the state of the Legacy metagame days before the Eternal Weekend North America begins.

What decks stand at the top of the current meta? Where are the hosts leaning for the Legacy Championship? Did you miss us?

Nov 15, 202452:56
Chicken-a-la-King! - Ep. 195

Chicken-a-la-King! - Ep. 195

Mapson returns from Ohio as the winner of BCDL 16! He talks about the immaculate vibes of the events and the performance of Nadu in Legacy over two days of Legacy action.

Aug 22, 202425:48
Chickening Out in Legacy - Ep. 194

Chickening Out in Legacy - Ep. 194

Billy and Mapson go over the big decks in Legacy to know prior to BCDL this weekend. Also some big updates at the end!

Aug 14, 202401:02:15
Nothing as Certain as Death & Taxes w/ Akaleth - Ep. 193

Nothing as Certain as Death & Taxes w/ Akaleth - Ep. 193

Evan Lewis, better known as Akaleth, is one of the premier Death and Taxes players on MTGO. He stops by the show to discuss his deck of choice, why the black splash is the best variant in the current Legacy metagame, and why Philly is the best venue for Eternal Weekend. Also what is the big secret to becoming a streamer?

Find Evan online! -

https://twitter.com/Akaleth

https://linktr.ee/akaleth

Aug 07, 202456:42
SCG Baltimore Tournament Report - Ep. 192

SCG Baltimore Tournament Report - Ep. 192

Billy and Mapson go over their Modern and Legacy events from this past weekend at SCG Baltimore.

Jul 31, 202455:10
Bloomburrow Pick 2 - Ep. 191

Bloomburrow Pick 2 - Ep. 191

Billy and Mapson find the cutest, most adorable bunnies and rabbits that will (hopefully) make their ways into the Modern and Legacy formats. They also discuss their choices going into SCG Baltimore this weekend for both formats.

Jul 26, 202401:18:29
Dipping into Legacy with Robert Wilson - Ep. 190

Dipping into Legacy with Robert Wilson - Ep. 190

Billy is joined by Robert Wilson, founder of Buffalo Chicken Dip Legacy, to discuss the state of the Legacy format, the effects of the current set release cadence, and their favorite Bluey episodes.


Find Rob on X at

https://twitter.com/BcdLegacy

https://twitter.com/Robert_H_Wilson


Interested in playing in the upcoming BCDL events?

https://t.co/8VKPvFgqxQ

https://t.co/Hs2ttdLKFH

Jul 17, 202401:30:23
Mystic Forging Victory with Mark Marra - Ep. 189

Mystic Forging Victory with Mark Marra - Ep. 189

Friend of the show Mark Marra stops by to discuss the Mystic Forge deck he took to a top 8 finish in the Showcase Challenge.

Jul 10, 202401:09:04
Pruning Down PT Nadu - Ep. 188

Pruning Down PT Nadu - Ep. 188

The Pro Tour is over but the work is just beginning. Join Mapson and Billy as they review the data and evaluate their takeaways of Modern post-MH3.

Also Legacy. #BanGrief

Jul 03, 202401:27:25
1100 Days of Grief in Legacy- Ep. 187

1100 Days of Grief in Legacy- Ep. 187

Billy discusses the most recent banned and restricted announcement and the subsequent interview from Blake Rasmussen and Andrew Brown.

6-24-2024 B&R Announcement - https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/june-24-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement


WeeklyMTG discussing the B&R - https://t.co/c3PsrNqqJN

Jun 26, 202443:05
Modern Musings wih MH3 - Ep. 186

Modern Musings wih MH3 - Ep. 186

Billy and Mapson discuss the latest format updates.

Jun 20, 202401:32:01
Tron Bad, Necro Good? with Ryan Nicholas- Ep. 185

Tron Bad, Necro Good? with Ryan Nicholas- Ep. 185

Mapson is joined by co-founder of BetterDaysMTG Ryan Nicholas, aka tronisbad, to discuss the fledgling MTGO Creator Program and the recent MH3 Early Access. Which cards impressed Ryan? Tune in to find out!


Find Ryan on social media using his Linktree - https://t.co/l9Tr40VcRs

Jun 13, 202401:05:21
Much Nadu About Nothing - Ep. 184

Much Nadu About Nothing - Ep. 184

Is Nadu the next Beans? Insert 2nd hype question here. Try not to break the third wall. Remember that all good cards are Simic. Cry softly holding your Elementals deck and hope everything will be alright.

Jun 05, 202445:49
How to Make: a Podcast - Ep. 183 (Uncut)

How to Make: a Podcast - Ep. 183 (Uncut)

Billy is spilling the secrets on how to acquire unbounded success as a podcast.


Wait...no... Billy is giving you tips on how to create a podcast of your own. No secret sauce or pacts with Griselbrand; just a barebones list of considerations before you make the next great podcast, Magic or otherwise.


To illustrate a few points, Billy did not fully edit this episode. As a result, you will hear a lot more "noise" this week. This is a conscious choice. Don't message him on social media about it. He knows.

May 28, 202401:01:48
Prisoner's Dilemma - Ep. 182

Prisoner's Dilemma - Ep. 182

The hosts make up for lost time and discuss everything Magic. We discuss interpretive swimming and ethics in gaming.

May 22, 202457:28
The Sharpshooters of Thunder Junction - Ep. 181

The Sharpshooters of Thunder Junction - Ep. 181

We gathered the best outlaws the Omenports could muster and brought them to your doorstep. See what cards have made the leap into Modern and Legacy in the early weeks of OTJ.

May 08, 202453:14
Leaks on the Horizon - Ep. 180

Leaks on the Horizon - Ep. 180

Billy and Mapson had a long day, so of course they ended up talking about potato-phone leaks, the surprising response from Wizards, and look over the official Modern Horizon 3 previews.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/the-modern-horizons-3-leaks-nulldrifters-and-you

May 01, 202401:14:26
Savor the Squirrel - Ep. 179

Savor the Squirrel - Ep. 179

Mapson reports about Spells at the Squirrel while Billy manages to talk about cEDH for much longer than expected.

Apr 18, 202401:02:40
Outlaws of Thunder Junction: Pick 2 - Ep. 178

Outlaws of Thunder Junction: Pick 2 - Ep. 178

Cozy up to the Dark Depths Corral as we dig into Outlaws of Thunder Junction. What cards are Modern standouts? What card are others sleeping on? Find out this and more!


Apr 11, 202401:00:41
Countdown to Doomsday... - Ep. 177

Countdown to Doomsday... - Ep. 177

Billy and Mapson speak about expectations for Doomsday players, how Asmo managed to win a challenge in Modern, and what could be a good addition to the Legacy player's data arsenals.

https://www.lord-of-legacy.com/

Ecobaronen's 4 Color Beanstalk Guide - https://mtgdecks.net/guides/4-color-beanstalk-guide-taking-down-the-legacy-showcase-mtg-246

Apr 03, 202401:12:21
Winter Winddown and Winner Meta - Ep. 176

Winter Winddown and Winner Meta - Ep. 176

Winter seems to be wrapping up in the Northeast and it appears Billy and Mapson have come out of their winter resting place. They played events of varying formats but now must overcome a maturing Modern and Legacy metagame.

Will the hosts survive? Will Alex emerge from his training in time to assist his friends? Will Goku finally be able to control his Instinct? Find out on this episode!



Mar 27, 202401:08:29
Life and Love in the Time of Grief - Ep. 175

Life and Love in the Time of Grief - Ep. 175

Billy and Mapson discuss love, the gaslighting of escape rooms, and which deck was all over the top tables of the Legacy Showcase Challenge.

Mar 20, 202401:04:15
Flying High at SCG Philly with Patrick Owens - Ep. 174

Flying High at SCG Philly with Patrick Owens - Ep. 174

After an impressive weekend in their own rights, Patrick Owens comes on to discuss his win in the Legacy 5k at SCG Con Philly. Mapson discusses his run with the breakout Modern deck of the weekend. Billy did stuff too but...eh...

Mar 13, 202401:22:49
SCG Philadelphia Visitor's Guide - Ep. 173

SCG Philadelphia Visitor's Guide - Ep. 173

Alex and Billy discuss the hometown SCG event in their backyard. They discuss layouts, phone receptions, food options. Basically like the Sims, except with tournaments, vendors, and people staring at cardboard they can't afford but will stare at regardless. There's a history lesson.. we basically crush it. Enjoy!

Mar 06, 202451:42
The Fallout of Triumph - Ep. 172

The Fallout of Triumph - Ep. 172

Alex and Billy discuss the distribution of W40 cards on MTGO, the origin of the band Fallout Boy, and talk about why PIP is Rad.

Feb 21, 202401:16:49
From Denver, With Guildpacts - Ep. 171

From Denver, With Guildpacts - Ep. 171

Denver is done. Players are qualified. Data is abound. Billy and Alex look over the in flux of information, discuss how Denver was in the room, and what MKM card was cracking the top tables all weekend!

Feb 14, 202401:01:56
Modern from Hartford to Denver - Ep. 170

Modern from Hartford to Denver - Ep. 170

Friend of the show Alex Smith returns to fill in for an absent Mapson. Billy and Alex discuss the results of SCG Hartford and explore different options leading into RC Denver this coming weekend.

Feb 07, 202401:01:36
Suspects and Culprits - Ep. 169

Suspects and Culprits - Ep. 169

Billy and Mapson discuss Mapson's travel plans and potential Modern decks, what list Billy has been dominating with on MTGO, and try out a new format for a set review of Murders at Karlov Manor.


Jan 31, 202401:18:47
Showcasing the Showcase - Ep. 168

Showcasing the Showcase - Ep. 168

Billy and Mapson break down this past weekend's Legacy Showcase Challenge. After Billy figures out the show notes, the hosts discuss what is the best Chalice deck, the many flavors of Grief, and what Mapson played for the event.

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Jan 24, 202401:17:50
Magical Moments with Gavin Verhey - Ep. 167

Magical Moments with Gavin Verhey - Ep. 167

Mapson welcomes Gavin Verhey, Senior Game and Product Developer for Wizards of the Coast, to discuss Universes Beyond, how game design has adapted over the past year, and how players can better cultivate their communities.

Jan 19, 202456:09
Exercises and Rain Delays - Ep. 166

Exercises and Rain Delays - Ep. 166

Billy and Mapson were taken a bit off course by a storm but have manage to make it to the show in almost pristine condition. Billy defends a thought experiment and the hosts debate the merits of brewing and knowing when to hang it up.

Jan 11, 202456:47
2024 Modern Landscape - Ep. 165

2024 Modern Landscape - Ep. 165

Billy and Mapson are reunited are prepared to talk about Eternal Weekend, what sounds a rhino makes, and what Lord of the Rings card Mapson doesn't think lives up to the hype.

Jan 03, 202455:19
Mulligan Management - Ep. 164

Mulligan Management - Ep. 164

Billy discusses some selected hands to discuss how deck choice, strategy, and circumstance affects your mulligan choices.

MTGO Announcements - https://www.mtgo.com/news/mtgo-blog-12192023

The hands - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A3GuDoPNAwUqtrvpgVKumVqwC-ZY89YI9K3mZpJcXqU/edit?usp=sharing

Dec 20, 202351:02
The Triumph of TK with TK Strachan - Ep. 163

The Triumph of TK with TK Strachan - Ep. 163

The champ is here! Hear the thoughts of your current NA Legacy Eternal Weekend champion. We laugh, we cry, we incite train violence.

Reach out to TK - https://twitter.com/TriumphofTK

Rewatch the magic of EW NA - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPCNEKq4EPN6tcl6zopb1ww

Dec 14, 202301:11:17
Farewell Fury, Bye-bye Beans! - Ep. 162

Farewell Fury, Bye-bye Beans! - Ep. 162

As we approach Eternal Weekend North America, the hosts take some time to reflect on how the banning of Fury and Up the Beanstalk will affect the Modern format. They also complain about snail mail, Mapson corrects Billy on Pittsburgh cuisine, and Billy guesses the city's nicknames.

December 4 B&R - https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/december-4-2023-banned-and-restricted-announcement

Dec 06, 202346:19
Impossible Level Magic Quiz - Ep. 161

Impossible Level Magic Quiz - Ep. 161

This episode is packed from start to finish with Legacy content as we ramp up to Eternal Weekend NA in two weeks. Listen to the hosts struggle to remember obscure sideboard cards and explain their thoughts on why Temur Delver is overrepresented.

Nov 29, 202301:16:45
Eternal Weekend Warm-up - Ep. 160

Eternal Weekend Warm-up - Ep. 160

Mapson is back from the Steel City and ready to dish about his triple-format weekend, what looks good on the Eternal Weekend NA schedule, and what could be a surprise option for EW Europe this weekend!

Nov 15, 202301:11:02
Hero's (Short-lived) Reunion - Ep. 159

Hero's (Short-lived) Reunion - Ep. 159

Billy and Mapson are back. Kinda. Billy has some technical issues so you'll hear just him. Then just Mapson. But Billy's there but then he's not. It's confusing.

Mapson will be at SCG Pittsburgh. Listen to his thoughts on Modern and Legacy.

Check out our merch over at Bonfire! The threads have looked amazing and we're happy that our listeners are enjoying them too!

https://www.bonfire.com/store/dark-depths-podcast/?utm_source=copy_link&utm_medium=store_page_share&utm_campaign=dark-depths-podcast&utm_content=default

Nov 08, 202322:09
Role for Initiative with Sahar Mirhadi - Ep. 158

Role for Initiative with Sahar Mirhadi - Ep. 158

Mapson is joined this week by fellow Initiative enthusiast, host of The Legacy Gambit, and founder of the European Legacy Masters, Sahar Mirhadi. They talk about all things RW Initiative, from card choices to the person who put the deck into Mapson's focus.

You can follow Sahar all over social media - https://linktr.ee/saharmirhadi

Check out the Legacy Gambit!

https://twitter.com/TheLegacyGambit

https://www.youtube.com/@TheLegacyGambit

You can also find links for the European Legacy Masters - https://linktr.ee/europeanlegacymasters


Oct 25, 202301:15:30
Making the Most Out of Bean Alive! - Ep. 157

Making the Most Out of Bean Alive! - Ep. 157

Billy and Mapson discuss the lack of bannings, why they are optimistic for Modern's future, and why they won't be playing the Legacy Showcase this weekend.

Check out our Bonfire store! https://www.bonfire.com/store/dark-depths-podcast/

Oct 18, 202356:55
What Gets the Axe? - Ep. 156

What Gets the Axe? - Ep. 156

If there's one thing Billy and Mapson know, it's how to dissect a ban list. This week, they discuss what is safe to return to Modern and what has to go, and what changes are needed in Legacy.

Oct 12, 202358:07