Decisions That Matter: A Public Procurement Podcast

On this episode of Decisions That Matter, a Procurated podcast, co-hosts Alex Stonehouse and Bernadette Launi meet with North Carolina's Tammie Hall to discuss how she has created on of the most successful programs for historically underutilized businesses (HUB) in the country. Her work within North Carolina's Department of Administration includes and in-depth disparity study to lay the groundwork for diversity and inclusion policies, a no-strings-attached grant program to help HUBs during the coronavirus pandemic, and so much more.  As mentioned in the episode, you can access the disparity study and the NC HUB resources in the links below.  Follow Tammie Hall on LinkedIn  Visit the North Carolina HUB Website  View the North Carolina Disparity Study Report  If you enjoy this episode, please like and subscribe to the podcast. You can also visit www.procurated.com for all of your supplier evaluation needs, or follow Procurated on LinkedIn for regular content updates.

Former Chief Procurement Officer (CPO) of the State of Alaska, Jason Soza, joined the podcast today to discuss the current trends and issues facing public procurement leaders across the country. As Vice President, West at Government Sourcing Solutions (GSS) Soza shares his knowledge from 20 years of experience in public procurement, starting as a frontline buyer for Alaska and ascending to CPO in 2013. Active in national procurement organizations, Soza was elected by his peers in 2018 as President of the National Association of State Procurement Officials (NASPO). In his role with the State of Alaska, Soza was responsible for the oversight of all goods and services purchases, inventory, and property disposal by all executive branch agencies across a very geographically diverse and challenging state. He also undertook several initiatives to transform Alaska's procurement function, starting with the formation of a cross-agency procurement officer group to increase communication and idea sharing, breaking down silos, and fostering new inter-agency relationships. These initiatives significantly increased spend under management, resulting in hundreds of millions of dollars in additional savings over his tenure. This podcast is brought to you by Procurated, the leading ratings and review site for the public sector. 

This episode of Decisions That Matter is presented by Gordian, and features a discussion between Procurated's David Yarkin and Dan Cook, the Vice President and General Manager of State and Local Government and K-12 Education (SLED).  Dan Cook, Vice President of Operations for the eastern U.S., has over 20 years of experience with Job Order Contracting (JOC). With a deep understanding of what makes a successful JOC program, he guides his team to provide and train on successful implementations. He’s overseen projects from Los Angeles to New York City and many places in between. Today, Dan oversees SLED Sales and Procurement Operations teams. Dan holds a degree in Civil Engineering from the University of Maryland and sits on the board of Eyrus, a cloud-based workforce productivity data collection solution. From construction planning and building to facility operations, Gordian empowers their customers to overcome business challenges by delivering critical data, innovative technology and extraordinary services. If you are a Procurated government member you can also log in to see what other governments and agencies are saying about Gordian. 

Together, Dave Pelletier and Kara Daniel, share their stories from the last year, including details on topics like implementing an e-bidding system, handling the initial pandemic response for their district and surrounding areas, and reopening public classrooms from K-12. Dave Pelletier, CPPB is responsible for surplus property and overseeing the operations and activities of the Distribution Center and Purchasing for the School District of Springfield K-12, the largest district in the State of Missouri.  Kara M. Daniel, NIGP-CPP, CPPB has been in public procurement since 2004 and is the Purchasing Manager for the School District of Springfield R-12. Kara serves the Missouri Association of Public Purchasing (MAPP) as the chapter President (2019-2021) and The Institute for Public Procurement (NIGP) as an Area 6 Chapter Ambassador. In 2017 Kara received MAPP’s Buyer of the Year (large entity) award. In 2019 Kara received MAPP’s most prestigious award the Linda D. Windsor Distinguished Service Award. This podcast is brought to you by Procurated, where we connect buyers and suppliers.

This episode of Decisions That Matter is presented by Gordian, and features a discussion between Procurated's David Yarkin and Gordian's Bill Pollak. Bill serves as President of Gordian (a Fortive company), the leading provider of innovative construction data, software and services to organizations pursuing efficient and effective facilities planning, estimating and construction procurement.  This fascinating discussion highlights the importance and effectiveness of properly using data to create efficiency in the public sector. Bill Pollak shares his views on the future of contracting, including the need to a adapt to a virtual solution and the emergence of AI technology that is changing the way business is done. If you are a Procurated government member you can also log in to see what other governments and agencies are saying about Gordian.

On this episode of Decisions That Matter, co-hosts Alex Stonehouse and Bernadette Launi are joined by their Procurated colleague, Andrew MacDowell.  Andrew joined the Procurated team in early 2020 as the Senior Director of Data Science & Analytics, where he has already had a tremendous impact our sales & marketing strategy, product roadmap, financial planning, and company vision through applied analytics. Prior to joining Procurated, Andrew worked in the Corporate Affairs Analytics & Insights team at Booz Allen Hamilton, was the Director of Business Intelligence at Xometry, and cut his teeth at the Bethesda-based consulting firm, Marketbridge. On this episode he discusses the vital role that data and analytics play in the decision making process, whether it's choosing the right supplier for a complex job, or deciding how to engage and react to a major problem.

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On this week's episode of Decisions That Matter we are joined by Brooke Smith for a discussion about women in government, advancing their careers through education and mentorship, and advice on conquering imposter syndrome.  If you enjoy this episode, please like and subscribe to the podcast. You can also visit www.procurated.com for all of your supplier evaluation needs, or follow Procurated on LinkedIn for regular content updates.

Genna Gold, the Director of Partner Engagement & Business Development at Procurated, joined the team after long stints at Yelp and TripAdvisor. She leads community engagement initiatives to better understand, serve and bring innovation to procurement professionals. She also acts as a liaison between the public sector and the supplier community through outreach and education. This podcast is brought to you by Procurated, the largest ratings and reviews platform for the public sector. For more information about government suppliers, or to sign up and explore the platform, visit www.procurated.com.

On this episode of Decisions That Matter, a Procurated podcast, host Alex Stonehouse is joined by our panel of former Chief Procurement Officers to discuss the possible avenues for repairing strained supplier relationships that can occur during an ongoing project. What makes a good, lasting supplier relationship? When is the right time to raise an issue with your supplier, and what's the best way to do it? What do you do if your supplier cannot deliver to the specs of the contract? What are the costs of moving on to a second supplier? What are the costs and benefits of doing so?  If you enjoy this episode, please like and subscribe to the podcast. You can also visit www.procurated.com for all of your supplier evaluation needs, or follow Procurated on LinkedIn for regular content updates.

This episode follows a Q&A format with questions from our listeners for our team of former state and local CPOs. The group discusses the importance of creativity, curiosity, and strategic thinking to solve problems within government. At their core, great procurement leaders are problem solvers, and the group also shared advice from their own life on how they learned to think differently about procurement and find resources to take their careers to the next level.  This video features four former Chief Procurement Officers, including:  Jane Benton: CPO of Arkansas and University of Arkansas Jason MacDonald: Former CPO of Long Beach and Fresno Mike Smith: Former CPO of Illinois Jason Soza: Former CPO of Alaska For weekly episodes on a range of public procurement topics please like and subscribe to the podcast. You can also visit www.procurated.com for more information about specific suppliers that will help you and your agency improve your supplier evaluation and vendor management. 

Jenn Myers, NIGP-CPP, CPPB  has been with the City of Tucson for 8 years, currently in the role of Procurement Manager. She was selected as the 2020 Young Professional of the Year Recipient.  On this episode, Jenn Myers discusses her start in procurement and the path she took to rise to her current position. She shares lessons learned through her participation in Arizona's local NIGP chapters, and she also emphasizes the importance of the experience she has gained through NIGP's national programs. The procurement community is a collaborative one where people lift each other up, and Jenn is a great example of what can happen when you take the advice of others to heart. Jenn also goes into detail about how she found and fostered her relationship with her mentor, a story full of lessons that we can all benefit from.  She currently serves as Chair on NIGP’s Pipeline and Placement Committee and is very active with her local chapter – the Copper Chapter of NIGP where she currently serves as President. If you enjoy this episode, please like and subscribe to the podcast. You can also visit www.procurated.com for all of your supplier evaluation needs, or follow Procurated on LinkedIn for regular content updates.

On this episode of Decisions That Matter, a Procurated podcast, co-hosts Alex Stonehouse and Bernadette Launi dove into the results of the Fall Procurement Trends Survey to analyze the current trends in procurement, and the changes in priority since the previous survey from Summer of 2020 according to public procurement leaders from across the country. As mentioned in the episode, you can access the survey results in the following articles:  Fall 2020 Procurement Trends Survey Results Summer 2020 Procurement Trends Survey Results If you enjoy this episode, please like and subscribe to the podcast. You can also visit www.procurated.com for all of your supplier evaluation needs, or follow Procurated on LinkedIn for regular content updates.

Mike Smith leads a discussion with the rest of the Buying Bunch about the benefits of using external resources. The Buying Bunch is a team of former CPOs from Government Sourcing Solutions with decades of purchasing experience in state government, local government, and higher education. On this episode they’ll discuss how during this tough time it might be wise for governments and schools to consider using outside help to supplement staffing issues, streamline processes, and much more. This video features: Jane Benton: CPO of Arkansas and University of Arkansas Jason MacDonald: Former CPO of Long Beach and Fresno Mike Smith: Former CPO of Illinois Jason Soza: Former CPO of Alaska For more procurement information please like and subscribe to the podcast, and visit www.procurated.com for more information about specific suppliers that can help you reach your goals and objectives.

On this episode Judy Smith discusses procurement in higher education. Judy has an impressive background in both healthcare and higher education, and she served as the Director of Procurement at the University of Michigan, where she worked for nearly 10 years. We dove into the main differences between purchasing for colleges and universities compared to state and local government procurement, how higher education is handling the pandemic and the warehousing issues that were caused by the PPE shortage earlier this year, and Judy also shares advice for up-and-coming procurement leaders to help them learn and grow in a positive way. If you enjoy this episode, please like and subscribe to the podcast. You can also visit www.procurated.com for all of your supplier evaluation needs, or follow Procurated on LinkedIn for regular content updates.

On this episode of Decisions That Matter,  brought to you by Procurated, co-hosts Alex Stonehouse and Bernadette Launi are joined by procurement rockstar, Stacy Gregg, from the University of South Carolina.  Stacy does a wonderful job of pairing her years of procurement experience with her compelling storytelling ability, to give listeners seemingly endless anecdotes to learn from and act upon.  She details the idea behind Procurement being hurdle, not a roadblock, that stakeholders and end users should look forward to working with because the relationship can and should be mutually beneficial.  Stacy also discusses a range of other ideas, from the important of procurement ethics and doing what you know is right, to details on how the University of South Carolina has approached opening school in the fall for faculty and students in the COVID-19 era.  If you enjoy this episode, please like and subscribe to the podcast. You can also visit www.procurated.com for all of your supplier evaluation needs, or follow Procurated on LinkedIn for regular content updates.

Students and teachers are back to school at colleges and universities across the country, many following a hybrid model of in-person learning paired with digital classes, especially for classes with large enrollment numbers. But many schools are trying to get ahead of the "touchless" trend to give everyone on campus the freedom to navigate without relying on ID cards and high-touch interactions.  On this "Buying Bunch" episode, the team of procurement experts from Government Sourcing Solutions reaches into their 150 years of combined public purchasing experience to share what they have been hearing from procurement leaders across higher education.  This video features: Jane Benton: CPO of Arkansas and University of Arkansas Jason MacDonald: Former CPO of Long Beach and Fresno Judy Smith: Former Director of Procurement at University of Michigan Mike Smith: Former CPO of Illinois Jason Soza: Former CPO of Alaska For more procurement information please like and subscribe to the podcast, and visit www.procurated.com for more information about specific suppliers that can help you reach your goals and objectives..

On this episode of Decisions that Matter we are joined by Tim Hay to discuss Preparedness in Procurement. Tim brings over 20 years of procurement experience to the table, including long stints with The State of Oregon and NASPO ValuePoint.  The coronavirus pandemic has forced procurement and preparedness into the spotlight, and has taught us a lot about what could have been done differently, and what we can do in the future to plan ahead and ensure we are prepared for future events. And on top of the pandemic western states are battling raging wildfires, while the southeast is currently in the peak of hurricane season.  Tim walks the audience through strategies to help you best prepare for a variety of scenario.  This podcast is brought to you by Procurated, the country's leading supplier evaluation tool. 

On this special "Buying Bunch" episode, the team of procurement experts from Government Sourcing Solutions shares their experience last week at the NIGP Forum 2020 conference that was initially scheduled to take place in Chicago, Illinois, but transitioned to a virtual event due to the national pandemic.  The team also gives actionable advice to maximize the impact of connections made and data collected during the week long trade show to ensure a successful end to 2020.  This video features: Jane Benton: CPO of Arkansas and University of Arkansas Jason MacDonald: Former CPO of Long Beach and Fresno Judy Smith: Former Director of Procurement, University of Michigan Mike Smith: Former CPO of Illinois Jason Soza: Former CPO of Alaska For more procurement information please like and subscribe to the podcast, and visit www.procurated.com for more information about specific suppliers that can help you reach your goals and objectives.

Many times procurement shops find themselves short-staffed or under-trained, whether it's due to the recent wave of retirements, budget shortfalls due to the coronavirus pandemic, or an underpopulated pipeline of incoming young talent.  There are several things that short-staffed offices can do to help get everything done while still meeting goals and objectives, including mandates like driving savings.    On this special "Buying Bunch" episode, the team of procurement experts from Government Sourcing Solutions reaches into their 150 years of combined public purchasing experience to brainstorm new ways that procurement departments can organize their work to get the most out of the resources they do have.   This video features:   Jane Benton: CPO of Arkansas and University of Arkansas Jason MacDonald: Former CPO of Long Beach and Fresno Mike Smith: Former CPO of Illinois Jason Soza: Former CPO of Alaska For more procurement information please like and subscribe to the podcast, and visit www.procurated.com for more information about specific suppliers that can help you reach your goals and objectives..

Curt Topper is the current Pennsylvania Secretary of General Services, and he has served in the position since 2015. Curt Topper has ample experience in public service and procurement, having served as the Pennsylvania Deputy Secretary of General Services for Procurement in the early 2000s.    Curt Topper sat down with Procurated Founder & CEO, David Yarkin, to discuss the biggest topics across Pennsylvania, including the tremendous success of the state's cooperative contracting program COSTARS. The team at Procurated has had the pleasure of working closely with the COSTARS team to help buyers better understand vendor performance. This episode is brought to you by Procurated. Citizens depend on government. Governments depend on suppliers. And those governments use Procurated to select the right suppliers.

Curt Topper is the current Pennsylvania Secretary of General Services, and he has served in the position since 2015. Curt Topper has ample experience in public service and procurement, having served as the Pennsylvania Deputy Secretary of General Services for Procurement in the early 2000s.    This episode is part 2 of a trilogy interview between Curt Topper and Procurated Founder & CEO, David Yarkin, to discuss the biggest Procurement topics across Pennsylvania. This episode covers the Commonwealth's emphasis on diversity & inclusion in the suppliers they are contracting with, and also within the workplace at DGS. Curt's thoughtful approach, from the overall vision down to the tactics required to make change happen, is truly insightful.  This episode is brought to you by Procurated. Citizens depend on government. Governments depend on suppliers. And those governments use Procurated to select the right suppliers.

Curt Topper is the current Pennsylvania Secretary of General Services, and he has served in the position since 2015. Curt Topper has ample experience in public service and procurement, having served as the Pennsylvania Deputy Secretary of General Services for Procurement in the early 2000s.    Curt Topper sat down with Procurated Founder & CEO, David Yarkin, to discuss the biggest topics across Pennsylvania, starting with the government's response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Topper's thoughtful response about what has already happened, and what can be done to plan for the future, is helpful information for any procurement professional or government leader. This episode is brought to you by Procurated. Citizens depend on government. Governments depend on suppliers. And those governments use Procurated to select the right suppliers.

This episode of Decisions That Matter features input from "The Buying Bunch," a group of public procurement leaders with over 150 years of combined purchasing experience, about how governments and schools can actually increase social distancing, therefore decreasing human interaction and the spread of COVID-19, through the use of new contracts.  Visit Procurated for more information about suppliers that can help your organization. The members of The Buying Bunch include:  Jane Benton: CPO of Arkansas and University of Arkansas. Jason MacDonald: Former CPO of Long Beach and Fresno. Judy Smith: Former Director of Procurement at University of Michigan. Mike Smith: Former CPO of Illinois. Jason Soza: Former CPO of Alaska. David Yarkin: Former CPO of Pennsylvania. Founder & CEO of Procurated.

The new post-COVID-19 environment requires change in order to adapt and drive innovation, especially in the face of upcoming budget shortfalls. The solutions are by no means impossible, but they will require creativity. Listen to hear what our team of experts has to say about the adaption to remote work over the last several months, the upcoming pivot to governments reopening, and the new bare minimum requirements of technology like eProcurement.  Visit Procurated for more information about suppliers that can help your organization. This podcast features input from the following public procurement leaders, including:  Jane Benton: Vice President, South, Former CPO of Arkansas. Jason MacDonald: Regional Director, California, Former CPO of Long Beach and Fresno. Judy Smith: Vice President, Higher Education, Former Director of Procurement at University of Michigan. Mike Smith: Vice President, Midwest, Former CPO of Illinois. Jason Soza: Vice President, West, Former CPO of Alaska.

Jess Einstein is the Senior Director of Operations and Strategy for Procurated.  Focused on high-priority initiatives, she conceives, designs, and executes projects to drive the business forward. With the transition to a remote work environment Jess is focusing her efforts on hiring talented new candidates and building a thriving company culture. The lessons that Jess shares about her work at a technology startup are applicable across multiple organizations, governments, schools, etc.  Jess had extensive platform marketplace experience and has spent her career working at innovative projects in the DC startup world. Before joining Procurated, Jess ran business development and partnerships at Collage.com. Previously, she managed marketing at Curb (acquired by Verifone), and worked in operations and marketing at LivingSocial.

On this episode, The Buying Bunch, with over 150 years of combined procurement experience, discusses the immense importance of eProcurement in the modern environment with the rapid shift away from paper records and a renewed emphasis on speed and remote capabilities.  This episode is brought to you by Procurated. Citizens depend on government. Governments depend on suppliers. And those governments use Procurated to select the right suppliers.

Becca Moran joined Procurated in 2019, where she is responsible for maintaining a deep understanding of procurement professionals and the challenges they face. That understanding is used to craft Procurated’s vision, strategy, and product roadmap. Becca works with a team of software engineers and product designers to achieve that vision by creating innovative technology solutions for procurement’s biggest problems. Before joining Procurated, Becca led product management at Xometry, a Bethesda-based manufacturing marketplace. Earlier in her career, she served in technical project management and business development roles at Politico, a leading digital news outlet. Citizens depend on government. Governments depend on suppliers. And those governments use Procurated to select the right suppliers. Visit www.procurated.com to review a noteworthy supplier and learn more about the platform. 

The Buying Bunch, a group of former CPOs with over 150 years of combined purchasing experience in state & local governments and universities, joins us again on Decisions That Matter to discuss the importance of planning ahead to get in front of future emergencies and handle the current demands of the COVID-19 era.  On this episode they cover five core topics including:  Availability Contracting Warehousing vs. JIT Delivery Budgeting Communication This episode is brought to you by Procurated. Citizens depend on government. Governments depend on suppliers. And those governments use Procurated to select the right suppliers.

The Buying Bunch, a group of former CPOs with over 150 years of combined purchasing experience in state & local governments and universities, joins us again on Decisions That Matter to discuss the impact of COVID-19 on cooperative purchasing, and how cooperatives can support government during the crisis.  This episode is brought to you by Procurated. Citizens depend on government. Governments depend on suppliers. And those governments use Procurated to select the right suppliers.

Is teleworking here to stay for higher education institutions across the U.S.? And what can procurement offices do now to best prepare for the future?  On part one of this episode The Buying Bunch discussed the move to a work-from-home environment for state and local governments, and what that means for both internal communication and external communication with suppliers and cooperatives. During part two they discuss what governments can learn from the early adoption of eprocurement in higher education, and they’ll share thoughts on what Procurement departments can do right now to prepare for the future. Visit Procurated for more information about suppliers that can help your agency in the transition to telework. The Buying Bunch is a team of public procurement leaders that includes: Jane Benton: Vice President, South, Former CPO of Arkansas. Jason MacDonald: Regional Director, California, Former CPO of Long Beach and Fresno. Judy Smith: Vice President, Higher Education, Former Director of Procurement at University of Michigan. Mike Smith: Vice President, Midwest, Former CPO of Illinois. Jason Soza, CPPO, CSSBB: Vice President, West, Former CPO of Alaska. David Yarkin: President, Former CPO of Pennsylvania.

Is teleworking here to stay for state and local governments across the U.S.?  On part one of this episode we are joined again by The Buying Bunch to discuss the move to a work-from-home environment for state and local governments, and what that means for both internal communication and external communication with suppliers and cooperatives. During part two they discuss what governments can learn from the early adoption of eprocurement in higher education, and they’ll share thoughts on what Procurement departments can do right now to prepare for the future.  Visit Procurated for more information about suppliers that can help your agency in the transition to telework. The Buying Bunch is a team of public procurement leaders that includes: Jane Benton: Vice President, South, Former CPO of Arkansas. Jason MacDonald: Regional Director, California, Former CPO of Long Beach and Fresno. Judy Smith: Vice President, Higher Education, Former Director of Procurement at University of Michigan. Mike Smith: Vice President, Midwest, Former CPO of Illinois. Jason Soza, CPPO, CSSBB: Vice President, West, Former CPO of Alaska. David Yarkin: President, Former CPO of Pennsylvania.

On this episode of Decisions that Matter we have a group discussion with "The Buying Bunch," a team of public procurement leaders with over 150 years of combined experience in state and local government and higher education. They have navigated multiple public health events through the years, and they are driven to help state and local governments through this COVID-19 crisis.  Please feel free to reach out to any member of the team directly to discuss your COVID-19 response or any product and service needs your organization may have. And please visit www.covidvendorcheck.com to review any noteworthy suppliers, good or bad, that you have worked with during the Coronavirus pandemic.  Jane Benton: Vice President, South, Former CPO of Arkansas. Jason MacDonald: Regional Director, California, Former CPO of Long Beach and Fresno. Judy Smith: Vice President, Higher Education, Former Director of Procurement at University of Michigan. Mike Smith: Vice President, Midwest, Former CPO of Illinois. Jason Soza, CPPO, CSSBB: Vice President, West, Former CPO of Alaska. David Yarkin: President, Former CPO of Pennsylvania. COVID Vendor Check: www.covidvendorcheck.com

*Note: This episode was recorded at the beginning of March 2020. At the time of recording fewer than 100 cases of COVID-19 had been reported in the United States.  In this episode of Decisions That Matter, we sit down with Diane Palmer-Boeck to discuss her innovative approaches to solving common staffing issues and staying ahead of the technological curve.  Diane has served as a public procurement leader for over two decades, with the majority of that time coming as the CPO of Plano, TX.  

Jason Soza, Vice President, West at Government Sourcing Solutions reads from his article, "Embrace the 'Why?'", where he discusses the importance of thinking critically and outside of the box to improve procurement.  Jason served as the Chief Procurement Officer of Alaska to cap a 20-year career in public purchasing.  Jason was also elected President of NASPO in 2018 by his peers across all fifty states. 

On Episode 3 of Decisions That Matter we sat down with Nicole Smith, The Senior Director of Research at Government Sourcing Solutions, to talk about the key takeaways from Volume 4 of the Public Procurement Report. The report highlights the biggest trends in government procurement based on conversations with hundreds of CPOs from cities, counties, and states across the U.S. Nicole shares her insights and highlights how cooperative purchasing, eprocurement, staffing issues, and regional politics are shaping the procurement world. 

Mike Smith, former CPO of Illinois and current Vice President at Government Sourcing Solutions, provides an in-depth look at the key differences between single and multiple award procurement, and also shares advice for procurement professionals at all levels. 

Our guest on this episode of Decisions that Matter is Cheral Manke, CPPO, CPPB. With over 15 years of public procurement with the State of Washington Cheral has no shortage of helpful advice and interesting stories that can help government officials across the country. For more information about Cheral you can visit her profile at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheralamankejones/ 

This episode is short and sweet. The first full-length episode of the podcast will be launching in October, but this episode gives you a taste of the types of guests and topics we'll be covering on Decisions that Matter.