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Denial Bus

By Denial Bus
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Episode 87: A Patti Update
Patti gives the update of all updates....ok, not really. It is just an update.
August 27, 2020
Quickie: School starts and ...
School starts and.....yeah.
August 20, 2020
Episode 86: The psychologist is In
Patti talks with a school psychologist about school and psychology.
August 12, 2020
Episode 85: Happy Birthday Jaxon.
Patti and her yearly birthday thoughts on Jaxon's birthday.
August 6, 2020
Episode 84: Holly's July update
Holly gives us an update on what is happening in Colorado.
July 31, 2020
Episode 83: Jenn from Tiny Talk
Jenn, a speech therapist talks all things speech and I mean ALL things.
July 20, 2020
Quickie: Sorry A'ndrea
Patti apologizes for something she said in a previous episode.
July 15, 2020
Episode 82: A'ndrea and her brilliant children
A'ndrea and I talk about the similarities of parenting a brilliant child and one that is not so much.
July 13, 2020
Episode 81: Jojo and CRM
Jojo gives us another tool for our tool belt to help our kids but more importantly ourselves.
July 6, 2020
Quickie: 3 questions from Heather to Patti
Patti makes Heather play her favorite game.
July 1, 2020
Episode 80: Heather and meds
Heather talks about being on meds...I mean her daughter being on meds and how they got there.
June 29, 2020
Quickie: Dual emotions
We may have talked about this already but Patti is still processing through dual emotions.
June 24, 2020
Quickie: 3 questions for Holly
Patti plays her favorite game with Holly. Can you guess it?
June 17, 2020
Episode 79: Jojo Act Two
The second act of Jojo's interview. It is just has good as Act one.
June 15, 2020
Quickie: Jojo's 3 questions
Patti once again plays her favorite game of 3 questions with Jojo.
June 10, 2020
Episode 78: Life thoughts during this time
Patti shares her heart and mind on what is going on with the protest and her prayer for change.
June 8, 2020
Quickie: Silent but deadly
Does it smell?
May 27, 2020
Episode 77: Jojo's story
Patti interviews an alumi from Foster care, Jojo. She tells her story of her mother with mental health issues and losing her sisters and so much more.
May 25, 2020
Quickie: Heather's favorite game
Heather comes back to play her favorite game.
May 20, 2020
Episode 77: Holly, is that you?
Patti talks to Heather...I mean Holly...or do I?
May 18, 2020
Quickie: 3 Questions for Patti
Holly ask Patti three questions
May 15, 2020
Episode 76: An update with Holly
Holly gives her update on the latest happenings.
May 11, 2020
Episode 75: Patti's Covid thoughts
Patti intentionally talls to herself about what she has learned in this Shelter in Place time.
May 2, 2020
Episode 74: Covid 19 Update 1
The drivers talk about the impact of sheltering in place with the Covid virus is having on their family. Hopefully this is the only update about the pandemic.
April 17, 2020
Episode 73: Interview with MEGAN, Part 2
The second half of the great interview with Megan. We talk about her son's multiple diagnosis.
April 6, 2020
Episode 72: Interview with Megan part one.
Holly and Patti interview Megan, an amazing woman who adopted a child internationally who has down syndrome and there is so much more to the story.
April 1, 2020
Episode 71: Crouch Anniversary
Chris and Patti talk about thier anniversary and how they conduct couples thearpy for themselves every year.
March 25, 2020
Quickie: Ramblings brought to you by Daylight Savings time
The drivers attempt to do an episode but end up just rambling... Because that is what happens when you lose an hour.
March 23, 2020
Episode 70: Ryan interview part 2
This is part 2 of the interview with Patti's high school friend. If you didn't listen to part one, you are going to want to, do back and listen.
March 18, 2020
Quickie: Happy Anniversary to our husbands.
The drivers talk about thier marriage anniversaries and the different ways they celebrate or don't get to celebrate.
March 16, 2020
Episode 69: Ryan B.
The Drivers talk with Ryan and his life with his deaf son. We learned so much about hearing and non-hearing people and how to navigate the culture of everyone.
March 13, 2020
Quickie: In sickness and in health
Holly talks about her family and how they all got the plague amongest other things.
March 4, 2020
Episode 68: Marriage
The Drivers talk about marriages and how 83% of marriages with special needs kids fail. They also discuss how 87% of all statistics are made up... But not that one... That one is real.
February 29, 2020
Episode 67: Christmas Update.
Better late than never. The Drivers talk about Christmas and some IEPs of course. Because that is thier life.
February 21, 2020
Episode 66: Part 2 of Interview with Kassy.
The ending of Kassy's interview where we talk about her son and his medical needs.
February 10, 2020
Episode 65: Kassy interview
Holly and Patti talk with Holly's baby sister about her son's medical needs.
February 7, 2020
Quickie : Patti thoughts - It's OK to be sad.
Patti talks about the balance of heart and mind.
February 5, 2020
Quickie : Harry Potter and Ashley
The drivers talk to Ashley about one of thier favorite subjects and it isn't thier kids.
January 31, 2020
Episode 64: Part 2 with Ashley
Part 2 of the interview with Ashley who is taking care of her older sister who has Autism. Don't forget to listen to the first one.
January 29, 2020
Episode 63: Interview with Ashley
The Drivers interview Black Belt Ashley who has a older sister on the Autism spectrum. They discuss her childhood and becoming the guardian of her sister.
January 16, 2020
Quickie: More Harry Potter
It's Harry Potter wee!!! . The DB drivers talk about it once again. Sorry if you are not a fan of HP but listen anyways because you are a fan of The Denial Bus.
January 10, 2020
Episode 62: First of many Harry Potter talks
Holly and Patti talk about their Harry Potter journey
January 9, 2020
Sorry, no full episode today. 2020 will be different.
December 30, 2019
Quickie: In the closet
The new gear has its pros and it cons.
December 27, 2019
Quickie : Late Christmas wish
Patti recorded this to wish you a Merry Christmas but then never posted it. But hey, there were no meltdowns on Christmas.
December 26, 2019
Episode 61: Christmas 2019
The drivers talk all things Christmas.
December 23, 2019
Quickie: Thanksgiving Update
Holly gives her Thanksgiving update because we were all losing sleep wondering how the seating arrangements went.
December 20, 2019
Quickie: Thematic Journey
Patti talks to Chris about their Marvel journey to save thier marriage.
December 18, 2019
Episode 60: Deborah Oppenheimer from Foster
Part 2 of Patti's interview with Deborah Oppenheimer, the director and creator of Foster.
December 16, 2019
Quickie: 3 questions with Chris
Patti gets to ask Chris three random but not so random questions to her husband Chris.
December 13, 2019
Quickie : Sorry
The title says it all.
December 11, 2019
Episode 59: Deborah Oppenheimerof Foster
Patti interviews the producer and director of "Foster"
December 9, 2019
Quickie: Wrongest of Wrongs.
DB drivers discuss how they see a meme that Patti thought was both funny and also made her cry.
December 4, 2019
Quickie : Traumatizing your own kids
Holly ask for advice on if she is traumatizing her kids.
November 29, 2019
Quickie: Stealing
Guess what Patti's daughter stole... You will never guess. And Happy birthday Lexi and Xandi.
November 27, 2019
Quickie : Birth Stories
Holly tells the stories us about all three of her son's birth stories. And Patti just listens because she has none 🙂
November 22, 2019
Quickie: Thanksgiving again.
Holly and Patti share what they do for Thanksgiving. Turkey🦃 vs Steak 🥩
November 20, 2019
Episode 57: Traveling Tips- don't take your kids
Holly gives her traveling tips on traveling with kids.
November 18, 2019
Episode 56: Church Bells
Holly discusses how she found the right church to handle her kids while Patti talks about the frustration of not being able to
November 15, 2019
Quickie: 3 questions
Holly answers her first 3 questions. We learn alot about Holly... And Patti.
November 13, 2019
Quickie: Parents of your kid's friends
Hopefully your kid's best friend's parent don't suck.
November 11, 2019
Quickie: Review - "Foster"
Holly and Pattireciew the documentary of "Foster"
November 8, 2019
Quickie: Holly lies
Holly tells a story about how one of her friendships is based on a lie.
November 6, 2019
Episode 55: Finally moved
Patti talks for the last time, promise, about moving into her house.
November 4, 2019
Quickie: Confession
Patti and Holly give thier first confession. It is juicy but not too juicy... OK it isn't really juciy at all. 🦗 🦗
November 1, 2019
Quickie: Small talk - Fold No Fold
Patti asks Holly the most important question.
October 30, 2019
Episode 54: Holly is here.
Holly's first episode, where Holly and Patti talk about the name change, where the podcast is going and getting to know Holly.
October 28, 2019
Quickie- Change is a brewin'
So many changes but still the same podcast. But maybe a name change is in order.
October 25, 2019
Quickie: New Host
Find out who Patti has choosen to be the new co host. Here is a hint- Her name is Holly.
October 23, 2019
Episode 53 Transitions are the worst
Heather is gone but the show must go on.... But not today.
October 21, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Monopoly and Pits
The MEs discuss Monopoly and feeling stuck in a pit. 
October 16, 2019
Episode 52 - So Long, Farewell
Quickie: Vs - Harry Potter In this very special episode of the Mother Effin' Podcast, Heather says her goodbyes as she moves on to other projects. Find out what's in store for each ME moving forward. 
October 14, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Halloween Plans
Find out what the MEs are doing for Halloween this year. 
October 11, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Pumpkin Spice Latte
The MEs have opinions on PSL!
October 10, 2019
Episode 51 - Movin' and Shakin'
Quickie: Review - Psycho Patti has moved! It's stress and not fun, but at least she's moved in to her new home. 
October 7, 2019
Quickie: Pop Quiz - Words And Coffee
Patti's back with another pop quiz. 
October 4, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Hair Cut And Birth Mom
Jaxon got a hair cut. 
October 2, 2019
Episode 50 - Comedy Specials
Quickie: Update - The 3 Big Questions for a Frantic Family The MEs discuss the current state of comedy specials. 
September 30, 2019
Quickie: Pop Quiz - Summer Time
The MEs take a quiz about the summer. 
September 27, 2019
Quickie: News Break - Underwear
The MEs discuss an article on underwear. 
September 25, 2019
Episode 49 - School Update
Quickie: Pop Quiz - The Return of 3 Questions The MEs already have a school update and it's only been a month! 
September 23, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Moving
Patti's moving and the MEs discuss organization. 
September 20, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Theatre
The MEs discuss going to the theatre. 
September 18, 2019
Episode 48 - Movie Night
Quickie: Small Talk - Clothes This episode the MEs discuss current movies and what the kids are allowed to watch on TV. 
September 16, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Driving Sucks
The MEs found something they have in common. 
September 15, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Grumpy School
The MEs give an update on school. 
September 14, 2019
Episode 47 - Beckett Moments
Quickie: Small Talk - Andrea Mills If you feel you would like to donate to the Mills family, you can use the following link: The ME's discuss Beckett Moments and what it means to be a foster/adopt parent. 
September 9, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Planning Planners
The MEs discuss how they plan and what planners they use.
September 6, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Paperwork
There’s too much paperwork in the world!
September 4, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Birthday Dilemma
The ME’s are still on vacation!
September 2, 2019
Quickies: Small Talk - Summer Jammin’
The MEs discuss music with Heather’s love for it and Patti’s “meh” feelings towards it.
August 30, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Celery Debate
The MEs disagree on the good vs bad qualities of celery.
August 28, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Happy Birthday, Heather!
The MEs are taking a little vacation but don’t worry there will still be new Quickies everyday!
August 26, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Pump Up The Jams
The MEs discuss their love or difference to music. 
August 21, 2019
Episode 46 - Tom Hanks Ruins Everything
Quickie: Rant - Dropping The Kids Off At The Pool In this episode the MEs discuss their Burbank Comedy Festival Plans until Heather derails the conversation with a rant about Tom Hanks. 
August 19, 2019
Quickie: Cut For Time - Kari Interview, Snippets, Part 2
Kari's kids sure start some fun conversations! Listen to extended snippets that were cut for time from Kari's two part episode. 
August 16, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - A House Is Not A Home
Patti gives the listeners an update on her home buying adventure.
August 14, 2019
Episode 45 - Interview with Kari, Adoptive Mother Of 5 Boys, Part 2
Quickie: Class Clowns - Comedy a la Carte Show In the second part of this interview the MEs discuss with Kari how she was ultimately able to build her family. It's a story with many fun twists and surprises! 
August 12, 2019
Quickie: Cut For Time - Kari Interview, Snippets, Part 1
These ladies can talk! In this first Quickie, Kari and Heather reminisce about high school much to Patti's delight. 
August 9, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Stay Caffeinated
Heather and Patti discuss their need to stay caffeinated. 
August 7, 2019
Episode 44 - Interview with Kari, Adoptive Mother Of 5 Boys, Part 1
Quickie: News Break - Fight At Disneyland The MEs interview Kari, a personal friend of Heather's from high school. She's the person who introduced Heather to their FFA and has been there every step of Heather's adoption story. On top of that, she has 5 BOYS and is an adoptive mother herself. 
August 5, 2019
Quickie: Just The Tip - Karaoke Time
Heather has found her new favorite thing to do with her kids. 
August 2, 2019
Quickie: Pop Quiz - Zombie Apocalypse
Will Heather survive the Zombie Apocalypse?
July 31, 2019
Episode 43 - Back To School Season
Quickie: Small Talk - Making School Plans In this episode the MEs talk about Jaxon's IEP.
July 29, 2019
Quickie: Class Clowns - Open Mic
The MEs discuss the best way to approach an open mic for comedic success. 
July 26, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Well Grounded
The MEs discuss Heather's levels of grounding and the benefits of this type of discipline. 
July 24, 2019
Episode 41 - Crouch Twins Interview, Being Adopted And Dyslexic
Quickie: Pop Quiz - How Well Do You Know Your Mom? In this episode the MEs take time to talk to Patti's 8-year old twin girls, Lexi and Xandi. Both have very interesting and different opinions on adoption and dyslexia. Check it out and if you have adopted kids at home, make sure you take the time to check in with how they are feeling. 
July 22, 2019
Quickie: Cut For Time - Renée Interview, Pop Quiz
The MEs want to know if Renée can pass a quiz on comedy. 
July 19, 2019
Quickie: Class Clowns - So You Booked A Show
The MEs go over the "To Do" list of how to behave as a professional comic once you book a show. From promoting beforehand and how to act the night of the show, listen to these tips to be a better comedian. 
July 17, 2019
Episode 40 - Interview with Renée Percy, Comedian and Infertility
Quickie: Update - OMG OMAD In this episode Patti and Heather talk with a favorite comedian and friend, Renée Percy. You can tell Renée is fancy and amazing because she has an apostrophe in her name. Starting with her early career on Degrassi High in Canada, the MEs talk to Renée about how she got into stand-up comedy and how her struggles with infertility have shaped her current views on comedy.   This episode also has an abrupt ending as the recording device suddenly stopped. The MEs are incredibly thankful Renée Percy stopped by to chat openly about her career and infertility struggles. Please follow her at and check out her link for classes. She is an incredible teacher and mentor to fellow comedians! 
July 15, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Matching Minis
The MEs discuss their need to buy new vans. Maybe they'll be matching! 
July 12, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Meds And The Brain
Patti and Heather talk about how meds make Patti feel and what Jaxon may feel like on a daily basis. 
July 11, 2019
Episode 39 - The Infertility Chat
Quickie: Small Talk - Kids Are Gross The MEs discuss Patti's story and chat about what not to say to someone going through infertility.
July 8, 2019
Quickie: Pop Quiz - Adoption Quiz
Heather gives Patti a quiz about foster care and adoption from 
July 5, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Fulminating Over Culminating
What's the point of giving kids a ceremony every single time they move up a level in school? Patti and Heather don't agree with all the pomp and circumstance. 
July 3, 2019
Episode 38 - The New Normal
Quickie: Small Talk - Mexican Fast Food Patti and Heather have an emotional discussion about feeling normal and what it means to try and find a sense of normalcy in stressful and unique situations. 
July 1, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Hobo Chic
Heather has some issues with the way her kids dress. 
June 28, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Toothpaste Woes
Patti has struggles... with toothpaste. 
June 26, 2019
Episode 37 - Hell Week
Quickie: Small Talk - Happiest Memory It's been quite a week for the MEs. With school ending and balancing work/comedy/life, Patti and Heather have been struggling to get through it all. On top of that, things reached a boiling point with Heather's mom. Listen to find out the difficult decision she had to make about their relationship. 
June 24, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Battle Of The Pool Noodles
Summer is here so the kids need to get in their daily quotas of fighting. 
June 21, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Is Your Fridge Running
Patti grills Heather on what's in her fridge and then is appalled by Heather's favorite cereal selection. 
June 19, 2019
Episode 36 - Summer Lovin'
Quickie: Small Talk - Fundraisers Summer is here! Which means the MEs are running a touch behind each week. Thank you for your patience with us as we edit and upload our episodes. This week Patti and Heather talk about their summer plans and how to survive the many long weeks till school starts up again. 
June 18, 2019
Quickie: Cut For Time - Marissa Interview, Spilling Tea
Marissa spills the tea on some of the families she's had to interview.
June 16, 2019
Quickie: Review - Total Forking Shirt Show
Patti and Heather went to see improv... willingly! Cast members of THE GOOD PLACE performed a charity improv show called the TOTAL FORKING SHIRT SHOW. The event easily became one of Patti's "Top 5 L.A." moments. 
June 12, 2019
Episode 35 - Interview with Marissa, FFA Intake Coordinator
Quickie: Book Club - Marissa's Top Three Books Being Adopted The Colors Of Grief Child Called It Bonus: The Primal Wound Patti and Heather interview Marissa this week, the FFA Intake Coordinator who matched Patti with her twin daughters! They discuss how Marissa ended up working in foster care, get some specifics on how potential foster parents are viewed, and then find out what Marissa is currently up to and how she now feels about foster care after working with the system.
June 10, 2019
Quickie: Worst Mom Of The Week - Heather, Bella's Emails
Heather wins the Worst Mom Of The Week! Bella was caught with a secret email account. 
June 8, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Tantrums
Patti and Heather do a deep dive into what defines a tantrum and when to let your kids run away. 
June 5, 2019
Episode 34 - Speed of Life
Quickie: Mini-Interview - Jaxon Crouch The school year has ended and the Mother Effers are catching up on where they're at with comedy and family. Give us a message about how you're life is going via email:, by phone: 818-533-8656, or by leaving us an Anchor Voice Message. 
June 3, 2019
Quickie: Cut For Time - Cory Ringdahl Interview, Snippets
This Quickie is filled with various interview snippets with Cory Ringdahl we had to cut for time, including his response to Fold/Unfold. 
May 31, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Man Types
The Mother Offers discuss their ideal man and their dream guys. 
May 29, 2019
Episode 33 - Interview with Cory Ringdahl, Birth Father, Part 2
Quickie: Class Clowns - Mic Stand Etiquette  This week is the second part of a two part interview with Cory Ringhdal. In the second part of Cory's story, he finds out he's a birth father and signs over his parental rights so his daughter can be adopted by another man. The story doesn't end there so listen to hear all the twists and turns it takes!
May 27, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Accentuate The Positive
The MEs say something positive about their kids but the discussion ends up backfiring when they begin to discuss their husbands. 
May 24, 2019
Quickie: Pop Quiz - 3 Questions Again
Patti has some new random questions for Heather and Heather grills Patti about Harry Potter.
May 22, 2019
Episode 32 - Interview with Cory Ringdahl, Adoptee, Part 1
Quickie: Class Clowns - Mic Etiquette  This week is the first part of a two part interview with Cory Ringhdal. Adopted as an infant Cory discusses growing up in North Dakota, being adopted as an infant, and ultimately reconnecting with his birth family. His story doesn't end there! Make sure you listen next week as there is a surprise second half to his story.
May 20, 2019
Quickie: Cut For Time - Nikki Interview, Fold/Unfold
Of course the ME's asked Nikki their favorite question! Find out Nikki's answer and hear what Heather has to say about kids doing their own laundry. 
May 17, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Naps
Patti is having a tough time with Jaxon and his nap time! Heather is unhelpful in her suggestions. 
May 15, 2019
Episode 31 - Interview with Nikki, Former Foster Child (Aged Out)/Adoptive Mother
Quickie: Worst Day Ever - Alex  Do you have a Worst Day Ever? Leave us a call at 818-533-8656 or email us at This week we have a Nikki from California on to talk about her journey through the foster care system as an older child and ultimately aging out. Her journey with the foster care system did not end there. As an adult she adopted two children through the Los Angeles County Foster Care system. 
May 13, 2019
Quickie: Difference of Opinions - Homework
The MEs have a discussion about the pros and cons of homework. 
May 10, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Patti Hates Phones
Patti has a bone to pick with Heather about phone usage. 
May 8, 2019
Episode 30 - Vacation From My Vacation
Quickie: Small Talk - Small Bladders The MEs have returned from spring break with varying levels of success! Heather had a busy trip in Tennessee visiting many interesting places in Nashville and Memphis like the National Civil Rights Museum, The Parthenon, and Third (yes, Heather says Three) Man Records. Patti was more of a homebody and had her challenges balancing the new job and the kids taking a total of three weeks of spring break. Who managed to sneak in some comedy during this busy period where the kids were out of school? 
May 6, 2019
Quickie: Class Clowns - Taking Care Of Business
The MEs discuss the business of being a comedian. 
May 3, 2019
Quickie: Review - Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
The ME's are timely with this review! It's not part of the Disney Marvel Cinematic Universe, but both mothers agree it's a great film. 
May 1, 2019
Episode 29 - Interview with Jacinda, Foster/Adopt Mother
Quickie: Rant - Kids Books In this episode, the ME's speak with Jacinda from Northern California. It's a GAME OF FOSTER/ADOPT THRONES as her story is filled with dramatics, twists, turns, and surprise endings. You will not believe how adoption has transformed her family. 
April 29, 2019
Quickie: Cut For Time - Disneyland Worst Guests
This segment was cut for time from Episode 28 - We're Going To Disneyland. The MEs talk about terrible guests they've seen at Disneyland. 
April 26, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Bedtime Routines
Heather has a complex bedtime routine that changes day by day and has Patti fascinated. 
April 24, 2019
Episode 28 - We're Going To Disneyland
Quickie: Rant - Van Blues, Patti and Heather discuss the state of their cars and discuss the frustrations of trying to keep their vehicles clean.  This week is a TIPS filled episode about going to Disneyland! Make your family trip the happiest on Earth by following the MEs advice on FastPasses, food, and the necessities to take with you. But first, Heather and Patti spill some details about working in theme parks. 
April 22, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Llama Mama
Patti has made a self discovery about what kind of Mama she is. 
April 19, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Power Struggles
The MEs discuss power struggles with their kids. 
April 17, 2019
Episode 27 - Breaking Out For Spring
Quickie: Pop Quiz - Harry Potter House Heather stresses Patti out by quizzing her Harry Potter house loyalty.  It's SPRING BREAK! The MEs share their plans and tips for going on the road and traveling with three kids. 
April 15, 2019
Quickie: Review - Shazam
Mother Effer Heather and guest ME Father, Bobby, discuss the new movie Shazam with talking points for parents of kids in foster care.  Shazam (2019) synopsis: We all have a superhero inside of us -- it just takes a bit of magic to bring it out. In 14-year-old Billy Batson's case, all he needs to do is shout out one word to transform into the adult superhero Shazam. Still a kid at heart, Shazam revels in the new version of himself by doing what any other teen would do -- have fun while testing out his newfound powers. But he'll need to master them quickly before the evil Dr. Thaddeus Sivana can get his hands on Shazam's magical abilities.
April 12, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - What We Miss
The MEs chat about the things they miss from the before motherhood era. 
April 10, 2019
Episode 26 - You Better WERK
Quickie: Call In - Tina  We get a call from one of our Mother Effin' Listeners! Hear what Tina has to say about this podcast. Patti has gone back to work (for now - she claims) and discusses with Heather the pros and cons of working. Along with trying to find the work/life/comedy balance, the MEs throw out tips on how to keep your head above water as a working parent. Additionally, they review Heather's chore chart for her kids as she believes kids need to learn good working skills while they are still young. 
April 8, 2019
Quickie: Update - St. Patrick's Day
The ME's give you an update on how they spent their St. Patrick's Day. 
April 5, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Sick Kids
The MEs discuss sick kids and what they love/hate about it.  
April 3, 2019
Episode 25 - April Foolishness
Quickie: Small Talk - Happy April Fools Day! Patti and Heather talk about their favorite pranks. The saying goes, "April showers bring May flowers" and the MEs discuss their favorite gardening tips and what crops they are planning to try and grow this year. 
April 1, 2019
Quickie: Pop Quiz - 3 Questions
Patti surprises Heather with a pop quiz of three very random questions. 
March 29, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Pooping Alone
All the MEs want is to poop alone. Just once. 
March 27, 2019
Episode 24 - Let's Talk About Sex
Quickie: Small Talk - Heather's On A Diet  It's time to have the talk, and Patti and Heather sure talk a lot about sex. How do you find the time to have sex with kids? How do you explain sex to kids? How do you explain sex to kids with sexual trauma? All this is discussed as well as celebrity lists and bad comics in this episode. 
March 25, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Manners
Heather's having issues with table manners.
March 22, 2019
Quickie: Small Talk - Last Fight
The Mother Effers discuss the last fights they had with their husbands. 
March 20, 2019
Episode 23 - Schoolhouse Stress
Quickie: News Break - Operation Varsity Blues Stressed? Of course, we're stressed. Patti and Heather discuss the stress of being a foster parent and their new stress of finding the right kind of school for their kids. Homeschool? Public? Private? Charter? There are so many options out there and it can be challenging to figure out what's best the children. 
March 18, 2019
Quickie: Review - How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World
Need something to do this weekend with the kids? Take them to the movies! Patti and Heather discuss the recently released Dreamworks animated film, HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON: THE HIDDEN WORLD. They review the entire DRAGON franchise and talk about what upset their kids and talking points to address. 
March 15, 2019
Quickie: Worst Day Ever - Holly
Our friend Holly is back on the podcast with her call in for her WORST DAY EVER.  Want to tell us your Worst Day Ever? Leave us a message at 818-533-8656 or email us
March 13, 2019
Episode 22 - Be Kind Rewind
Quickie: Update - Valentines Day 2019 with the Mother Effers. This episode the Mother Effers discuss Patti's first job at a video rental store and Heather talks about the time she tried to rent Titanic. Then it's on to a discussion of kindness, being kind, and raising children with trauma to be kind. 
March 11, 2019
Quickie: Proud Mama - Tough As Nails
Heather's daughter Ana stands up to a bully like a boss. 
March 8, 2019
Quickie: Rant - Patti's Kids Don't Listen
It's like talking to three brick walls until the Mean Mommy comes out. Do your kids listen the first time? Second? Ever? 
March 6, 2019
Episode 21 - Interview with Sean Anders, Director and Co-Writer of Instant Family, Part 2
Quickie: Rant - Bella and PE. Heather's got a problem. Her eldest daughter is failing all her classes, including PE.  Next is Part 2, of our interview with Sean Anders, Director and Co-Writer of the film Instant Family starring Mark Wahlberg and Rose Byrne. Instant Family was the ME's favorite film of 2018 and they dig deep into Sean's experiences as a foster parent, his future endeavors with the foster community, and the answer to the hotly debated question: fold or unfold. 
March 4, 2019
Quickie: Worth It - Jaxon Snuggles
Even though we often complain about how difficult our kids can be, sometimes they are worth it. This Quickie: Worth It is from Patti as she discusses a recent sweet moment with Jaxon. 
March 1, 2019
Quickie: Update - Christmas 2018
Time for a Quickie: Update! The Mother Effers fill you in on their Christmas holiday.
February 27, 2019
Episode 20 - Interview with Sean Anders, Director and Co-Writer of Instant Family, Part 1
First up is a Quickie: Review of 3 Big Questions for a Frantic Family by Patrick Lencioni (not a sponsored review). Patti is very excited about the changes she has witnessed with her own family from implementing a few of the suggestions. Then it's Part 1 of our interview with Sean Anders, Director and Co-Writer of the film Instant Family starring Mark Wahlberg and Rose Byrne. Instant Family was the ME's favorite film of 2018 and they dig deep into Sean's inspirations for writing the film, how Hollywood reacted, and then begin discussing his own experience of adopting three children from foster care. 
February 25, 2019
Quickie: Worst Day Ever - Mi
Welcome to a new feature called Quickies! These are short bonus clips you can listen to get your Mother Effin' fix on during the week.  Our first Quickie is a Worst Day Ever from Heather's sister Mi, in North Hollywood, CA. Want to tell us your Worst Day Ever? Leave us a message at 818-533-8656 or email us at 
February 23, 2019
Episode 19 - Happy Anniversary!
It's been a year since the Mother Effers started comedy and met each other. They rehash their memories of their first show and talk about why they think they became such good friends so quickly. Then continuing the "how we met" topic, each of the MEs discusses how they met their spouse, what their proposal was like, and what they thought about their wedding. Can you guess who has the more romantic story? 
February 18, 2019
Episode 18 - Self Esteem Demon
The Mother Effers will be performing together March 04, 7:30pm in the Yoo-Hoo Room at Flappers Comedy Club in Burbank, CA. If you're in the Los Angeles area make sure to stop by and catch your favorite foster adopt comedic moms in action.  It's a week discussing the Self Esteem Demon. That's the voice in your head or that little guy on your shoulder that tries to convince you everyday that you're a failure. These ladies face off with theirs as Heather reveals her biggest fear of performing on stage. Then the moms have some sad rants about having to be continuously confronted about the fact their foster adopt children are neurotypical and each day is a constant reminder of the challenges they face. 
February 11, 2019
Episode 17 - Say My Name
It's a discussion about frustrations, tantrums, and name changes. First the ladies dig into what's frustrating them with standup comedy and the difficulties of balancing their home life with the open mic scene. Then it's on to a touchy subject - do you change your foster adopt child's name. Hear how each Mother Effer addressed this situation. After this, the moms discuss tantrums and trying to teach their kids that life isn't fair. 
February 4, 2019
Episode 16 - 3 Or Less, 5 Or More
Heather has a manager and booked a commercial on her second audition. Listen as she describes the process of auditioning and how well she enjoyed her first commercial shoot. Then the MEs dig deep into their "Go To" lists. From meals, to comedians, to date nights with the husband, the divide between the two mothers grows wider. Patti likes to keep things simple and easy with 3 steps or less, while Heather prefers specifics and detail that are 5 steps or more. Is Heather's ramen meal too complicated? Should Patti wash her belly button? Will they ever agree again? 
January 28, 2019
Episode 15 - Cassie Hawkins-Leone Interview, Former Foster Teen
The Mother Effers sit down with Cassie Hawkins-Leone and discuss her experience as an older child in foster care and being adopted at 16. It's an emotional discussion that digs deep into very raw and honest feelings. How has foster care impacted her? How did the abuse affect relationships as she matured? What is her relationship like with her birth and adoptive families then and today? Find out this and much more, including Cassie's own words of inspiration for other foster kids. 
January 21, 2019
Episode 14 - Equal And Opposite Reaction
This week the Mother Effers discuss various reactions they have had in their lives. First, it's about their comedy and how it has grown into something more for themselves. Then they discuss the family and friend reactions to their choice to adopt. It's not all hugs and smiles as they deal with social abandonment, cultural challenges, and their own feelings at unexpected moments of loss. 
January 14, 2019
Episode 13 - Running On Empty
Patti and Heather are trying to get back into the swing of things in the New Year. Battling sleep deprivation, lack of privacy, and what's bugging them they find the humor and discuss where they find material for their jokes. In this episode they also discuss the benefits of taking a comedy class to help hone their skills. Then it's on to the MOMMY WARS. Moms, and even Dads, you know these other parents. These are the ones who have something to say about how everyone else is living their life. They also delve into not looking like their kids and trying out 23 and Me. 
January 7, 2019
Episode 12 - Long Live The Resolution
Heather and Patti go over their New Year’s Resolutions for comedy, family, themselves, and the Mother Effin’ podcast. The Mother Effers have had an exciting 2018 and look towards an even brighter 2019. Of course, they will be sharing each failure and victory with, you, the listeners. Thank you for listening and sharing! We’ll see you in the New Year! 
December 31, 2018
Episode 11 - Christmas Time Is Here
Patti and Heather discuss emotional comedy, including Hanna Gadsby’s, NANETTE and Neal Brennan’s 3 MICS. No spoilers, but Heather has also watched the first half of the second season of THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL. Then it’s on to the ups and down of the Christmas holiday season. Heather is fighting with Target and then the Mother Effers discuss their traditions and get into a heated discussion about ornaments crafted by children.
December 24, 2018
Episode 10 - Holly Gates Interview, Parenting a Child with Autism
For our 10th episode we have a special guest, Holly Gates! Holly is a good friend of Patti's who is a mother to three young boys. Her oldest son has autism and the Mother Effers discuss the challenges. Holly has recently begun to perform stand up comedy and is also using it as an outlet for her emotions and thoughts of parenting a special needs child.
December 17, 2018
Episode 9 - Dirty Laundry
The Mother Effers are wrapping up the year with their comedy and recap their time hosting an open mic together. Then it's onto the dreaded topic of laundry where Patti and Heather break into an epic debate of FOLD or DON'T FOLD your underwear. Please let us know your feelings in an anchor voice message or email us at After this near friendship killing discussion, it's on to tips about kid's clothing organization, dressing properly, and when traveling. Bonus travel tips in regards to snacking! Kids with trauma and neglect often have challenges with food so get two perspectives on how each mom deals with the drama.
December 10, 2018
Episode 8 - No Leftovers
Heather went to the very first Palm Springs International Comedy Festival and it was... interesting. Then Patti and Heather recap their Thanksgiving hijinks which included some unforeseen travel bumps, a holiday with the kids split between parents, a trip to Universal Studios Hollywood, and taking the family to see the movie INSTANT FAMILY. It was a busy holiday weekend and they managed to come out of it... just okay.
December 3, 2018
Episode 7 - Adopting an Older Sibling Set
Patti discusses the evolution of her Curious George set and then Heather joins in to discuss the pitfalls of watching television and movies with children from foster care and adoption. Then it's a deep dive into why Heather chose to adopt an older sibling set of three children and the challenges of raising children who suffered serious neglect, trauma, and emotional, physical, and sexual abuse. Also, find out why Heather can no longer cry (don't worry, Patti cries instead).
November 26, 2018
Episode 6 - Great Expectations
Patti and Heather discuss the unexpected benefits, life changes, and life lessons that came from doing comedy. Then they deep dive into met and missed expectations of adoption, parenting, and the inevitable expectations they’ve created for their kids. Also, Heather’s Tiger Mom views on life come out.
November 24, 2018
Episode 5 - Instant Family Review
SPOILERS! Patti and Heather saw the new movie INSTANT FAMILY (starring Mark Wahlberg and Rose Byrne) and give their honest take on how the film deals with foster care and adoption. Also, they recap Patti's stand up comedy show Fostering Funny and talk about their Thanksgiving plans.
November 17, 2018
Episode 4 - Forged Notes and Lost Phones
Patti and Heather discuss their first comedic influences (Bill Cosby and Lucille Ball respectively). Then it’s a recap of Halloween and how they manage their kids needs while keeping the spirit of the holiday alive. Then Heather talks about her kids ups and downs of the week; her youngest daughter finished trauma therapy and her eldest daughter decided to try and forge a note to get out of PE.
November 10, 2018
Episode 3 - FASD, Special Needs Adoption
First up, Heather had a show and the Mother Effers talk about the challenges of performing to a lukewarm audience. Then it’s an emotional discussion with Patti about FASD and adopting a special needs child. It’s an emotional episode and the Crouch Cry Count is high. Grab those tissues!
November 3, 2018
Episode 2 - This Is Halloween
Patti and Heather discuss the fun and glum of their long form improv classes, Halloween traditions, being a sick mom, and things you never knew about private adoption.
October 28, 2018
Episode 1 - Meet the Mother Effers
Patti Crouch and Heather Dragulescu talk about why we got into comedy, how we met, and why we decided to adopt.
October 20, 2018