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Tell Me What To Say with Drew Kugler

Tell Me What To Say with Drew Kugler

By Drew Kugler

Creating change that matters happens in conversations - with others AND yourself. In this series, noted executive coach Drew Kugler has conversations about, well, conversations. Through Drew's personal insights and interviews with thought leaders from all walks of life, you will learn about the unique dynamics of conversations at work, home, and anywhere else you care to make a difference.
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Tell Me What To Say with Drew KuglerOct 02, 2017

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Safe is Risky

Safe is Risky

What's a risk you took that turned out well? What about one you wish you had taken? I invite you to listen and participate in this episode as a guided workshop for whatever risk or change you may be facing.

Mar 31, 202112:16
How Are You?

How Are You?

Drew Kugler and Ari Kaplan discuss the differences in how children and adults discuss their busy days, with a focus on how they answer the simple (and sometimes throwaway) question, "How are you?"

Monk Manual Article: https://monkmanual.com/blogs/monk-notes/monk-notes-10-on-you-lost-that-busy-feeling-oh-that-busy-feeling?vgo_ee=sF1VVxqxgXq97OuHuO5hmvlMy%2BOWWuyaZunZiCXh6gI%3D

John Mulaney Stand-Up Routine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quZU_hA4Pr4

Feb 08, 202109:35
Dr. Michael Osterholm
Jan 21, 202119:12
The Five Frogs
Jan 19, 202109:18
Dr. Andrea Ghez

Dr. Andrea Ghez

Dr. Andrea Ghez is an astronomer and professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy at UCLA. In October of 2020, she became the fourth woman to be awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics for her discovery of a supermassive compact object, now generally recognized to be a black hole, in the center of the Milky Way galaxy. In today's episode, she discusses the conversations and curiosities that led her to this work, as well as how disagreeing and collaborating leads to richer scientific insights.

Jan 12, 202127:19
Building for Change

Building for Change

When something goes wrong, how quickly do you search for "tools" or a "blueprint" to fix it? Today, we explore how seeking to merely fix what's broken isn't enough - we must figure out what we're trying to build and why. This episode also happily introduces my colleague, Ari Kaplan, who will occasionally join in on TMWTS.

Dec 22, 202012:11
What's The Moral?

What's The Moral?

It's easy to watch a news story and decide what we think of the characters involved. In this episode, I explore how we can better pause and learn the lessons of what happens around us - not so we can make judgements about others, but so we can make changes in ourselves.

Nov 20, 202005:59
Shellye Archambeau

Shellye Archambeau

What makes the best leaders? My guest today discusses the dedication to listening and caring she believes to be the cornerstone of true leadership. In a world that focuses so much on what people do, Shellye and I take the time to dive into how good leaders make the people around them feel.

Oct 08, 202029:27
Political Conversation

Political Conversation

How are your political conversations going these days? Not with people with whom you agree - I mean the ones with people whose views you can't even begin to fathom. Are you even having them? Just remember - no matter what happens in this election, those people aren't going anywhere. If you're not constructively engaging in the discomfort, what are you accomplishing?

Sep 29, 202006:19
Mason Trinca

Mason Trinca

It's not just showing up to the scene and taking pictures. My guest this week discusses how he uses conversation to build trust and respect on the ground, even in the most dangerous and emotionally charged situations, in order to produce the best photographs for the New York Times.

Sep 23, 202032:00
Mark McKee

Mark McKee

How do you guide an organization and the people it serves through uncertainty? My guest today explains how his school uses its mission and values as a "north star," regardless of the circumstances they can't control.

Sep 16, 202026:21
Cancel Culture

Cancel Culture

Forget where "Cancel Culture" shows up in the slog of news and media. Instead, think about where it shows up in your life. When is the last time you shut someone out, and why? Indulge me in a brief exploration of how we can better engage with people who we feel have wronged us or those we care about.

Sep 10, 202005:40
Keith Yamashita

Keith Yamashita

My guest this week discusses his life's work guiding companies through large-scale change, and how his personal journey recovering from a stroke has informed that work. I invite you to listen to Keith Yamashita's unique and enlightening perspective on how humans can, both individually and collectively, embrace that process of self-renewal.

Aug 28, 202033:19
Living In A Zoom World

Living In A Zoom World

As the virus grinds on, Zoom and such have entrenched themselves into all corners of connecting with others. On today's episode of TMWTS I offer my perspective on making the most you can of this pandemic necessity.

Aug 21, 202007:52
Meeting Feeling With Feeling

Meeting Feeling With Feeling

On today's episode of Tell Me What To Say, I explore a persistent myth about how people change their behavior. We must rethink our urge to persuade with facts, and instead meet emotion with emotion.

Aug 13, 202006:44
Dr. Natasha Bhuyan

Dr. Natasha Bhuyan

My newest podcast with Dr. Natasha Bhuyan highlights the lifesaving impact deliberate conversations have in the medical field. I invite you to listen to how she and her teams employ a central pillar of Constructive Candor: getting other people to tell their story. It creates shared vision, understanding, and action when everything is on the line.

Jul 31, 202028:46
Until It's Faced

Until It's Faced

On today's episode of Tell Me What To Say, I offer Thoughts and suggestions on the demands on creating long term change. With so many more voices rising, progress will depend on what listening follows them. Especially when things get uncomfortable.

Jul 12, 202009:01
Bishop Kenneth Ulmer

Bishop Kenneth Ulmer

Bishop Kenneth Ulmer is the leader of Faithful Central Bible Church. He has studied at Pepperdine University, Hebrew Union College, the University of Judaism and Christ Church and Wadham College at Oxford University in England. He received a PhD. from Grace Graduate School of Theology in Long Beach, California, was awarded an Honorary Doctor of Divinity from Southern California School of Ministry, and he received his Doctor of Ministry from United Theological Seminary. He participated in the study of Ecumenical Liturgy and Worship at Magdalene College at Oxford University in England, has served as instructor in Pastoral Ministry and Homiletic at Grace Theological Seminary, as an adjunct professor at Biola University (where he served on the Board of Trustees), and as an adjunct professor at Pepperdine University.

Jun 25, 202038:08
Peiman Raf A.C. (After Covid-19)

Peiman Raf A.C. (After Covid-19)

Peiman Raf is Co-Founder and CEO of Madhappy, a luxury clothing brand that centers its messaging around mental health. Beyond creating products and brand imaging that resonates with consumers, Madhappy strives to reduce the stigma around mental health and frame the conversation with more positivity and optimism. Peiman has said that it should feel the same telling someone you’re going to therapy as it does telling them you’re going to the gym.

Jun 17, 202011:57
Peiman Raf B.C. (Before Covid-19)

Peiman Raf B.C. (Before Covid-19)

Peiman Raf is Co-Founder and CEO of Madhappy, a luxury clothing brand that centers it's messaging around mental health. Beyond creating products and brand imaging that resonates with consumers, Madhappy strives to reduce the stigma around mental health and frame the conversation with more positivity and optimism. Peiman has said that it should feel the same telling someone you’re going to therapy as it does telling them you’re going to the gym.

Jun 17, 202036:49
The Power Of Pause

The Power Of Pause

Drew discusses one of the most common mistakes we make when interacting with others - we don't stop talking. Whether it's deliberately choosing when to pause or asking thoughtful questions, Drew provides concrete ways for you to create space in every part of your life for others to participate.

May 26, 202020:26
Sue Naegle

Sue Naegle

Sue Naegle is the Chief Content Officer at Annapurna Pictures. Prior to that, she was President of HBO Entertainment, and was instrumental in shepherding such shows as Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire, True Blood, Treme, Eastbound & Down, Enlightened, Veep and Girls.

May 18, 202035:48
Tom Peters
May 07, 202024:30
Rabbi Steve Leder

Rabbi Steve Leder

Offering his unique blend of refreshing candor and spiritual intelligence, Rabbi Steve Leder weighs in on the challenges of guiding his congregation and himself through this pandemic. We talk fear, loss, and how this crisis can make us more beautiful than before.

Apr 26, 202025:44
Seth Godin

Seth Godin

Entrepreneur and best-selling author Seth Godin talks with Drew about the power of conversations to “turn lights on” and thereby illuminate the potential for positive change.
May 02, 201838:35
Nat Damon

Nat Damon

Educational consultant Nat Damon talks with Drew about six elements that excellent teachers incorporate in their classrooms; qualities that be applied to executive leadership as well.
Apr 17, 201834:09
Rabbi Sarah Bassin

Rabbi Sarah Bassin

Rabbi Sarah Bassin talks with Drew about her work in fostering intercultural, interfaith conversations to bridge divides of perception and reframe how we deal with conflicts in society.
Apr 05, 201831:36
Trishla Jain

Trishla Jain

Trishla talks with Drew about her passion for meaningful conversations and the process that led to the design of a social experience, Gather Conversations, to create more genuine connections.
Mar 26, 201829:42
Phil Rosenthal

Phil Rosenthal

Phil Rosenthal, creator and of "Everybody Loves Raymond" and "Somebody Feed Phil" talks about his belief that sharing meals and laughter gets people to engage in better conversations.
Mar 14, 201837:03
Satya Nadella and Kathleen Hogan

Satya Nadella and Kathleen Hogan

Microsoft's Satya Nadella and Kathleen Hogan talk with Drew about what it really takes to evolve a work culture and conversations that inspired significant changes in how people think about their work.
Mar 05, 201829:54
Jeremy Bailenson

Jeremy Bailenson

Virtual Reality authority and Stanford University researcher Jeremy Bailenson talks with Drew about the progressive and perilous aspects of this technology that go beyond fantasy.
Feb 22, 201828:34
Bob Oswaks

Bob Oswaks

If you lost your job and were told that you were unemployable, what would you do? For today’s guest, former marketing executive Bob Oswaks, the answer was to pursue his passion and to turn that into a profession.
Feb 08, 201830:55
Your Questions. My Answers.

Your Questions. My Answers.

Drew answers listeners’ questions about corporate personality tests (not a fan), self-coaching, and the success that altruism can inspire.
Jan 25, 201818:12
Don Weaver

Don Weaver

Raise your glass and listen in as Don Weaver—Director of the world-renowned Harlan Estate—talks with Drew about the link between great wine and great conversations.
Jan 09, 201830:28
Drew Kugler

Drew Kugler

Drew begins to take questions from listeners that will be answered in upcoming episodes. He’ll apply his 32 years of coaching experience to the audience's communication problems at work, at home, and in the world. Let the conversation begin!
Jan 02, 201802:18
Rob Eshman

Rob Eshman

Newspaper publisher, editor, and writer Rob Eshman says that writing is the most comfortable way for him to communicate with people. Yet Eshman, a self-described introvert, shares with Drew his realization that face-to-face conversations are where the most meaningful issues must be addressed.
Dec 27, 201731:50
Peter Principato

Peter Principato

Knowing when to open your mouth and knowing when to shut it. That’s some of the communication advice offered by Peter Principato, President and CEO of Principato-Young Entertainment, in today’s frank and funny conversation with Drew.
Dec 12, 201737:32
Randall Kline

Randall Kline

In today’s conversation, Randall Kline, the Executive Artistic Director and Founder of SFJAZZ, talks with Drew about his journey to create the renowned success that SFJAZZ has become. Randall discusses the lessons he’s learned about leading this dynamic organization from his high school football coach, a bartender, Steve Martin, and the jazz great Sonny Rollins.
Dec 05, 201744:17
Andrea Lieberman

Andrea Lieberman

Drew talks with Andrea Lieberman, a stylist-turned-fashion designer and founder of her eponymous company, A.L.C. Their discussion begins with the inspiration that New York City’s diverse cultural environment had on Andrea’s interest in fashion. And she describes her role as a creative leader who has learned that tackling difficult conversations is a necessary part of nurturing a successful business.
Nov 28, 201738:03
Christopher Noxon

Christopher Noxon

A thought-provoking and fun conversation with journalist, author and illustrator Christopher Noxon. Topics include politics, religion, family and what to do when your shoes fall apart on the red carpet.
Nov 14, 201743:53
Rabbi Steven Leder

Rabbi Steven Leder

Sr. Rabbi Steven Leder of the Wilshire Boulevard Temple in Los Angeles talks about journeys through physical and spiritual pain, and finding meaning in the suffering we will all face. Drawing from personal experiences and those of his congregation, Rabbi Leder shares his understanding of how to persevere through life’s challenges.
Nov 06, 201744:57
Jessie Kornberg

Jessie Kornberg

Drew talks with Jessie Kornberg, the President and CEO of Bet Tzedek, a community-based organization in Los Angeles that provides free legal services to the most vulnerable. This conversation covers Jessie’s career path starting with dance and transitioning to work in caused-based organizations. She shares insights on the difference between judgment and mentorship, helping her team cope with complexity, and disruptive moments that create change.
Oct 30, 201740:02
Lynsi Snyder-Ellingson

Lynsi Snyder-Ellingson

Who doesn't love In-N-Out Burger? In this podcast, the chain's CEO Lynsi Snyder-Ellingson opens up to Drew about the family business, family values, faith, and the counter-intuitive secret to the brand's success.
Oct 23, 201724:37
Daniel Pink

Daniel Pink

NYT best-selling author Dan Pink joins TMWTS to talk with Drew about unanswerable questions, avoiding hard conversations, and how Pink's prolific career flows from his concept of the “slow hunch.” Drew pitches in with a backstage story of how this episode came to life (twice), and learns from Dan what it takes to have what are essentially conversations with his readers.
Oct 16, 201738:10
Sheryl Sandberg

Sheryl Sandberg

The inaugural episode of this podcast series is devoted to a conversation with Sheryl Sandberg. In addition to serving as the COO of Facebook, Sheryl is a renowned thought leader on life and the workplace. Our conversation explored the nuances of feedback, and gave us an opportunity to delve into her sensitive and thoughtful perspective after the tragic death of her husband Dave.
Oct 02, 201729:14
Dr. Atul Gawande

Dr. Atul Gawande

I often remind my clients that we're not always dealing with life and death; but I can't say that as you listen to Dr. Atul Gawande—surgeon, writer, and researcher. Our interview weaves through interesting connections, resulting in how the right kind of conversations can save, extend, and improve the quality of life.
Oct 02, 201746:07
Lena Waithe

Lena Waithe

Where does our belief that we can make a difference in the world come from? What kind of connection with others is necessary to create that difference in a unique way? A conversation with Lena Waithe, the first African-American woman to win an Emmy® for comedy writing, helps us explore these questions through the prism of her experiences.
Oct 02, 201735:60