Earth Converse Podcast

Earth Converse Podcast

By Earth Converse
A weekly #earthconversepodcast exploring our relationship and conversations with the earth. How do we converse with the earth? What does that even mean? What conversations are we having and which do we need to have?

All in the hope of inspiring a deeper connection with ourselves, each other and the earth that is our home.







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Episode 10: Christiane Frischmuth, roots and wings

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Episode 15: Jennifer Porter's Self-Reflection article
By now you will notice that one of the key themes on the #earthconversepodcast is the invitation to self reflect. In recognition that self reflection is indeed hard, Penelope Mavor draws on Jennifer Porter’s 2017 Harvard Business Review article Why You Should Make Time for Self-Reflection (Even If You Hate Doing It) for inspiration and guidance (12mins) To access the full article, and thanks to Jennifer and HBR: https://hbr.org/2017/03/why-you-should-make-time-for-self-reflection-even-if-you-hate-doing-it Link to Jennifer’s profile and The Boda Group website http://bodagroup.com/about-us/team/jennifer-porter/
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August 12, 2020
Episode 14: Ray Hillis, a true elder
I adore this man.  He has had a profound impact on my life, and I am grateful for his guidance over the years as a depth psychologist, dreamworker and wilderness guide.  He is also a Professor Emeritus at California State University, Los Angeles where he taught Counseling for 40 years.  In this #earthconversepodcast you get a feel for him and his contribution to the world.  He has stories to tell, rich in metaphors and imagery, and wonderful wisdom to share (97 mins) As the shadow falls with the sunset during our conversation, we explore ·  Returning to childhood ·  Observing the shadow, dancing with the paradox of light and dark in our psyches.  “If you create light, you create shadow” ·  A journey of separateness to a feeling of connection; “standing aside to being immersed in life’ ·  Solo Together – being connected and vulnerable to intrusion. "Finding the rightness of the distance" ·  The beauty and suffering side of nature ·  The individual and collective ·  Ray’s incredible paper: Psyche and annihilation ·  What is the role of civilisation to manipulate the story? ·  “Your death is the most important fact of your life” ·  Stepping into eldership ·  Listening to your intuition, connecting with your anima ·  Destruction and reconstruction,  “getting away from linear view of progress, and honouring dying as much as birth”.   Links to Ray’s work: ·  https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/raymond-hillis-santa-fe-nm/142990 ·  http://wildernessdreaming.com/contact.html ·  http://www.southwestpassages.org ·  Psyche and annihilation https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00322928508407943 You can also watch it on the Earth Converse YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/oatTqQbgEGA
1:37:45
July 29, 2020
Episode 13: A wise person
Mixing it up for this, the 13th #earthconversepodcast.  A contemplation on the role of saying nothing in a conversation. (just 3 mins)
03:02
July 22, 2020
Episode 12: Diana Bacanu, bridging worlds
This week’s #earthconversepodcast guest is Diana Bacanu, who together with her partner Xavier have founded Transalquimia, helping people reconnect with themselves and nature.  I talk to her about her own connection-disconnection-reconnection as they sit in basecamp on the 3rd night of a vision quest. (57 mins) Our conversation includes: ·  Feeling free in communist Romania ·  Fulfilling a corporate dream and the ‘other side of the dream’ ·  Those moments of waking up ·  Transitioning and letting go ·  Bridging and reconciling worlds ·  A bottom approach of bringing wellbeing into an organisation ·  Nature’s cycles in a relationship ·  And their beautiful offerings:  Transalquimia  https://www.transalquimia.org, Zen Project http://www.zenproject.org, and La Fradera retreat centre https://www.transalquimia.org/la-fradera-retreat-center You can watch this episode on the Earth Converse YouTube Channel https://youtu.be/KVGob_7OKeY
57:00
July 15, 2020
Episode 11: The long journey into yourself
In this episode, Penelope Mavor from Earth Converse picks up on her story, and links with her guests stories.  Inspired by Rumi’s provocation “and you? when will you begin that long journey into yourself?", she offers 8 experiences to help you reflect on your own journey.
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July 8, 2020
Episode 10: Christiane Frischmuth, roots and wings
Our tenth #earthconversepodcast guest is Christiane Frischmuth, whose roots go deep and whose reach is wide. She talks of growing up in a farming community and her transition to the city, and from Germany to the USA.  A passionate hiker she tells us about hiking the John Muir trail solo as a rite of passage. And as an international consultant, coach and vision guide she gives us an insight into how she encourages people to connect with their own true nature, through nature.  And beautifully she ends with 2 poems (64 mins) Our conversation includes: ·  The concept of roots and wings ·  Connection with ancestors, sense of belonging and the cycles of life and death ·  Fears and core wounds, and exploring them through nature ·  ‘What is my war and what is not my war’ ·  The social responsibility of looking after ourselves and becoming as conscious as we can. ·  Hiking with intentionality, as a vision quest ·  How, particularly coaches, can incorporate nature into their work. ·  The power of poetry. For Christiane’s website and offerings: www.GFconsulting.org For her John Muir trail hike blog http://awomansolo.blogspot.com Her poetry: http://singing-bowl-christiane.blogspot.com Her book, Singing Bowl Poems: poems from a journey into mystery (2011)  (I had no idea she had this!) https://www.amazon.com/singing-bowl-poems-christiane-frischmuth/dp/B00930KPQW See this episode in video at the Earth Converse YouTube Channel And for other ways to be connected with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com including my blog and @earthconverse on twitter, Instagram, facebook, linked-in, you get the idea  etc. Help create a community by subscribing, following and engaging. Spread the seeds, tell it the wind...
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June 30, 2020
Episode 9: Katrien Deboutte, community creator
This week’s #earthconversepodcast guest is Katrien Deboutte, who as guardian, caretaker and child of the earth is in an intimate love relationship with it. Amongst the birdsong, wind and sun she talks of how she has turned her vision into reality – creating spaces for people to (re) connect with themselves, each other and the natural world. (1hr) Our conversation includes: ·  Learning to interact with nature in a different way ·  Having and living a vision ·  Being intentional and explicit ·  Nature as a dream space ·  Celebrating and co-creating with nature ·  Building community ·  Connecting with your inner nature Check out her beautiful offerings including Kurkum Farm on: https://originature.eu (in Castellano and English) And for her biography:  https://originature.eu/home/english/about/ Follow  @orginature.eu and @kurkumfarmecovida on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. See this episode in video at the Earth Converse YouTube Channel And for other ways to be connected with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com including my blog and @earthconverse on twitter, Instagram, facebook, linked-in, you get the idea  etc. Help create a community by subscribing, following and engaging. Spread the seeds, tell it the wind...
1:00:15
June 24, 2020
Episode 8: Roy White, being natural
On this week’s #earthconversepodcast, Roy White talks about the curve of his relationship with nature - in his life as a Londoner, global executive with Sony Europe, family man, Going The Distance founder at Impact International and now as a sport psychology student.  (54 mins) He talks about the importance of being natural, and offers: Memories of roaming, noticing and learning outdoors growing up.  “How rain brings you to life” The tough part of your career and juggling family ..”looking back I wish I had spent more time in nature”. Looking after his own well-being, and introducing the Energy Project to Sony Europe in his capacity as HR Director.  Helping people to connect to what was important to them.  “Is the life I am living worth it?” “Getting back to basics”. “How do we get back to natural equilibrium? “One thing that will improve your life – get a decent night’s sleep”. “I think it would help us to be a little bit more relaxed and a little bit more ease with our lives if we accepted nature and the natural order of things …which is easy for me to say in this time in my life”. “Being careful of having a privileged view of something”. “The more equal we are as a society then I think we can help more people have lives that are more in tune with what they would want to do from a purpose point of view”. Being aware of our natural reactions flows, tendencies including our need to be active. Talking about being vulnerable, reflecting, making talking about feelings normal, identity and belonging,  and engaging in dialogue as natural Sources that may be of interest: Tony Schwartz  https://theenergyproject.com/team/tony-schwartz/ Nanett Mutrie, https://media.ed.ac.uk/media/Social+Wellbeing+MOOC+WK2+-+Walking+for+Wellbeing/1_53qgtkx0/53975401 Going The Distance programme at Impact International https://www.impactinternational.com/case-studies/going-distance Roy often writes..check out his musings on https://www.impactinternational.com/blog.   Follow him on Twitter @roy_white9 Here is one of our joint articles: https://www.impactinternational.com/blog/2018/06/leadership-development-walk-park See this episode in video at the Earth Converse YouTube Channel Like, subscribe, follow, comment, spread the seeds, tell it to the wind.. And for other ways to be connected with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com including my blog and @earthconverse on twitter, Instagram, facebook, linked-in, you get the idea  etc.
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June 17, 2020
Episode 7: Gemma Polo Pujol, with fire and light
Spiritual teacher Gemma Polo Pujol is this week’s #earthconversepodcast guest. She shares her journey and patient wisdom, as beautifully expressed in her recently released book, There is Light and Only Light.  (67 mins including a 10 min meditation at the end) Gems include: Being a tree, the sacred and the human Feeling the pain of separation and the connection Journeying from head, heart to belly and falling in love “Are you burning to find out what life is about?” “Spiritually has to come down to the reality of changing diapers” Creativity, rituals and little gestures in our daily way The deep intention of pilgrimages and deep rest retreats “We don’t know but we do know” Deeply trusting the wisdom of nature “Find the place within that is not separate from nature” For her retreats, workshops, personal guidance, pilgrimages and inspiration go to https://gemmapolopujol.com/en/  (in Catalan, Spanish and English) and follow her on Facebook and Instagram @gemmapoloinspirations and for her beautiful book: https://gemmapolopujol.com/en/there-is-light-and-only-light-book-by-gemma-polo/ Gemma and her partner Sophia https://mujerciclica.com have combined their work to create Feminine Pathways to the Sacred – inspiration, retreats and online courses (including the online course Gemma mentions, Medicine Woman – a journey to your centre) - subscribe here on  https://mailchi.mp/mujerciclica/feminine-pathways See this episode in video at the Earth Converse YouTube Channel. And for other ways to be connected with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com and @earthconverse on twitter, instagram, facebook, linked-in ...you get the idea
1:06:49
June 9, 2020
Episode 6: Petra Lentz-Snow, seed waterer
In this #earthconversepodcast episode, I talk to Petra Lentz-Snow as a wilderness guide and Executive Director with rites of passage organisation School of Lost Borders.  Petra is also the author of Journeys into Healing, a blog where she explores her own experience with breast cancer as a rite of passage.  (63mins) In this episode, she talks about the arch of relationship from separation to belonging: -  “there is nothing that is not nature.  That is how I walk in the world”. -  “the wound of belonging” -  “everytime nature has a chance, it will turn it into beauty” -  “it is not all up to us, and we are not powerless” And asks the big questions…”because there are no easy answers”: Such as: - “what seeds are you watering?” - “what is pulling us forward”? - “what is the world we want to continue to live in and die in, and die into so new can come?” - “how do we find belonging that helps us to trust and give away?” You may also like this Re-wild Interview: http://www.schooloflostborders.org/content/re-wild-interviews-petra-lentz-snow-rites-passage And for other ways to be connected with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com twitter: https://www.twitter.com/earthconverse instagram: https://www.instagram.com/earthconverse facebook: https://www.facebook.com/earthconverse/ and earthconverse on linked-in, youtube ...you get the idea
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June 3, 2020
Episode 5: Tara Brach talks about the edge of the roof
In this episode of the #earthconversepodcast, I bring in the distinctive Western Buddhist voice of meditation teacher, psychologist and author, Tara Brach.  One of those people who have been an important influence in my life,  whom I have never met.  (17 mins). Specifically, I draw out the essence of one of her talks, Earth’s Crisis: on the edge of the roof  https://www.tarabrach.com/earths-crisis-edge/ where she asks - what will it take to have us collectively awaken to the suffering of the earth?  In doing so, with the help of Rumi, she explores egoic trance and the inner practices of presence that enable us to respond from love and wisdom. To access Tara’s invaluable guidance in her talks and meditations, go to www.tarabrach.com.  She offers them free and of course donations make a difference.   One related talk is https://www.tarabrach.com/loving-life-loving-earth/.  And you will see that her new book Radical Compassion has just been released https://www.tarabrach.com/store/ Tara Brach inspired blogs from #earthconverse include: https://earthconverse.com/be-porous/ https://earthconverse.com/sitting-on-the-solution/ https://earthconverse.com/hope-the-mantra-of-doubt-hope-not/ And for other ways to be connected with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com twitter: https://www.twitter.com/earthconverse instagram: https://www.instagram.com/earthconverse facebook: https://www.facebook.com/earthconverse/ and earthconverse on linked-in ...you get the idea..
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May 26, 2020
Episode 4: Emerald North, like a river
My first guest conversation on the #earthconversepodcast with the wise wonderful Emerald North (approx 1hr38min) “A woman of the earth, artist, poet, a guide and most of all, a human being that is deeply connected and living with, on and through the living earth around her day to day”. I was guided by Emerald on my first vision fast, had mirroring training with her, and assisted a vision fast in 2019, all through School of Lost Borders www.schooloflostborders.org (founded by Steven Foster and Meredith Little). Here is an opportunity to listen, and feel the experience of an elder, speak her truth.  Flow with it like a river. There are so many gems (as you would expect from an Emerald) but our conversation includes: how the river spoke to her; the power of prayer, of really singing, and gardening; an invitation to go out and reclaim something of your innocence; rites of passage and the 4 shields wheel of wholeness; listening, mirroring and seeing our gifts; a reminder that we need to give things we love, time and power; and getting a feel for her art In addition to her work with School of Lost Borders, as you will hear,  Emerald will also be running a 18 month Rites of Passage Ceremonial Immersion in Southwest US during 2022-2023.  In her words “it will be community-based deep dive into what it means to be whole human beings: alive to our wildest fury, our erotic and blessing power, our grief, our tricksterliness, and our ineffable love. The land, as always, is our guide and teacher; and the heart of all our gatherings will come from sitting with Creosote, listening to the whisperings of soaring Hawk and the cadence of the Chama river, dancing with shadow under the midnight moons. Over the course of a year and a half together—in person on the land, in zoom gatherings, and through email councils— our community will create that rare kind of human container that both nourishes the ceremonial spirit in each of us and that feeds Ceremony itself”.  The Rite of Passage Ceremonial Immersion is designed those who have previously completed at least one three or four day vision fast and are deeply inspired— enough to commit to five ceremonies and to the community that forms to enact them. For more information please contact her directly on emnorth@gmail.com  Her website is https://earthtonesart.com/contact.html This podcast is also available on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19xV8YD403U&t=13s (And generally, for ways to be connected with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com twitter: https://www.twitter.com/earthconverse instagram; https://www.instagram.com/earthconverse facebook: https://www.facebook.com/earthconverse/ and earthconverse on linked-in ...you get the idea)
1:37:39
May 19, 2020
Earth Converse Trailer
A feel for the #earthconversepodcast.    And generally, for ways to be connected with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com twitter: https://www.twitter.com/earthconverse instagram; https://www.instagram.com/earthconverse facebook: https://www.facebook.com/earthconverse/ and earthconverse on youtube, linked-in ...you get the idea)
00:30
May 16, 2020
Episode 3: Planet of the Humans
On this #earthconversepodcast episode, Penelope Mavor reflects on the recently released environmental documentary Planet of the Humans,  to highlight themes of death, source, and paradox. As well as illusions, collusions and delusions.  And awareness. Sources/references: Planet of the Humans  https://planetofthehumans.com Charles Eisenstein, The Coronation,  https://charleseisenstein.org/essays/the-coronation/?fbclid=IwAR2eGN3jewXXKA2XNWTIkJd1BPeL80sGnOQ50lDP5OteJXN_2w24mNqESmU Earth Converse blog postings including, The Practice of Living and Dying https://earthconverse.com/the-practice-of-living-and-dying-consciously/ and This Earth Day https://earthconverse.com/this-earth-day/; Do you know your areas of illusion, collusion and delusion? https://earthconverse.com/do-you-know-your-areas-of-illusion-delusion-and-collusion/ Rumi poem excerpt from “A Great Wagon”, Rumi: Selected Poems, translated by Coleman Barks, with John Moynce, A. J. Arberry, Reynold Nicholson (Penguin, 2004). And generally, for ways to be connected with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com twitter: https://www.twitter.com/earthconverse instagram; https://www.instagram.com/earthconverse facebook: https://www.facebook.com/earthconverse/ and earthconverse on youtube, linked-in ...you get the idea)
19:31
May 13, 2020
Episode 2: Taking it to the land
In this episode of the #earthconversepodcast, Penelope Mavor explores the concept of ‘taking it to the land’, the idea of asking questions and seeking answers through nature’s wisdom. And the importance of trusting our own inner voice and intuition. Includes a 10 minute concentration meditation.  (25 mins) References: Foster, S. and Little, M , 1984, The Trail to The Sacred Mountain, A Vision Fast Handbook For Adults,  Lost Borders Press (pg 51) Rilke, R.M, 1934, Letters to a Young Poet, New York: Norton Earth Converse posting:  Taking the future to the land https://earthconverse.com/taking_the_future_to_the_land/ Earth Converse posting: Intuition, that powerful form of knowing https://earthconverse.com/intuition-that-powerful-form-of-knowing/ which refers to the intuition research: https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/03090591011080995/full/html And generally, for ways to be connected with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com twitter: https://www.twitter.com/earthconverse instagram; https://www.instagram.com/earthconverse facebook: https://www.facebook.com/earthconverse/ and earthconverse on youtube, linked-in ...you get the idea)
25:18
May 6, 2020
Episode 1: A conversation starter
To start the #earthconversepodcast conversation,  Penelope Mavor from Earth Converse, shares her experiences and views, and invites you to reflect on yours.   (approx 22 mins) For links to the references made: #Nature is Speaking campaign: https://www.conservation.org/nature-is-speaking Soulcraft and Wild Mind by Bill Plotkin https://animas.org/books/ School of Lost Borders www.schooloflostborders.org Vitamin N http://richardlouv.com/books/vitamin-n/ Earth Converse posting. At Home. In Nature https://earthconverse.com/at-home-in-nature/ And generally, for ways to be connected with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com twitter: https://www.twitter.com/earthconverse instagram; https://www.instagram.com/earthconverse facebook: https://www.facebook.com/earthconverse/ and earthconverse on youtube, linked-in ...you get the idea)
22:12
April 29, 2020
Earth Converse Podcast launch
An introduction to a new weekly podcast #earthconversepodcast, exploring how we converse with the earth.  (And all the other various ways you can connect with our work at #earthconverse: website: https://earthconverse.com We also have an Earth Converse youtube channel  and @earthconverse on twitter, Instagram, Facebook, linked in ..you get the idea)
01:30
April 22, 2020