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Telling your story is important. Telling your story of your life is what connects you to others, and helps them feel a little less lonely. By telling your story, you give others permission and remind them of their worth. The story-telling champion, Kristin Tweedale, and I talk about telling your story for yourself as well as for self-publishing. She shares absolutely everything about her self-publishing journeys - the one she took years ago, and the one she's currently on.
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When I started art journaling, I started because I wanted to be an artist. But, step one to being an artist is making art. It's the same for writing a book. Step one to writing a book is actually sitting down and writing.
The absolute Queen of Process, The Queen of Doing the Thing, is Misty Granade.
When I found out that she was writing a book I knew that I had to talk to her about the process of writing. Misty is someone who is comfortable in the messy middle in her art and her writing. She has really good insights into how to talk to yourself in the messy middle.
This conversation is going to feed your soul.
We talk about process, the book she's writing, why she's writing, her struggles, how she overcomes them, how she adapts everything to be what she needs it to be in order to maintain the fun.
In the end, it's all about the fun.
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Sarah and I chat about the way she sees creativity - a place that has space for both structure and chaos. We talk about the harmony of her left and right brain sides of her brain. Creativity is impossible unless you're willing to embrace uncertainty. You have to widen the scope of possibility in order to create something new.
Man, it's another good one.
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Prepare yourself for a bucket load of fangirling.
Jeannine is one of my favourite people in the world - my editor, my Fairy Bookmother, and all-around dream maker. She changed my life, and in this episode, we're sharing insight into the process of publishing a book from the perspective of an editor, and of the writer.
We talk about starting with the art. About the relevancy of books in this day and age. Taking your sketchbook to coffee and finding a partner who accepts this. Authenticity, even when you give the reins to someone else. And Jeannine shares a link to submit your own book idea to my publisher.
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The life of a creative can be lonely. And let’s face it: whether we identify as creatives or not, we all know what this pretty rubbish state of being feels like. As humans, we’re hard-wired for connection: we long to be understood by others, we long for relationships with people with whom we can go through our struggles and celebrate life’s wins. This blog post presents 7 ways towards feeling less alone as a creative. And the best part is – perhaps counter-intuitively – many of these can be done without interacting with a single other human in real time.
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Deborah is my business bestie. She runs a membership for handmade sellers called Tizzit. We send each other daily voice notes about the highs and lows of business and everything in between. In this podcast episode, which is essentially a one-hour voice note, we discuss work/life balance, Deb's French/Australian accent and whether it holds her back, running an imperfect business, and fear of success (yes, fear of success).
This is what actually goes into a six-figure creative business.
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I believe that anyone can make art but not everyone can be an artist.
I know that the common narrative is that everyone can be an artist, however, I disagree with that. Well. Slightly.
Let me explain...
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You guys. This is an episode in which I share the wisdom and kindness of my life coach. This is the one single human who has changed my life the most in the past year - the beautiful Kelli Saginak. Kelli opens up about her history with control and anxiety, we talk about practical ways of dealing with lack of control, how to do things in a way that feels aligned to your beliefs, opportunities for exploration, a reframing of perfectionism, failure, and making mistakes.
Kelli and my class, Unfold: The Art of Meditative Journaling, is now available for members. Click here to enroll: getmessyart.com/join
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The proposal was the first official task of writing my book. It's also what ended up being my compass and my rock. It was a mammoth task, but it was also easy? Why? Because I had already done the work... the year before in a very deep way and also every single year for 5 years.
This is the second episode in my Bookcast series. Bookcast is a group of podcast episodes dedicated to sharing the behind-the-scenes of writing my first art book. In the series, you'll find tips for writing your own book, and insight into the messy middle of book writing.
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I have a massive girlcrush on Laurel. If you've ever struggled to create art that looks like the art going on in your head, then you're going to discover your newest girlcrush too. If you're a food person, same thing. Hell, if you are a living, breathing, creative, then Laurel will find her way to the top of your list.
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Whether you're exploring a new country or your own backyard, here are practical tips on how to travel like an artist rather than a tourist.
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Last year, Kellee went through an intense creative burnout. I've been through many of those myself. This episode is about what's waiting on the other side.
Kellee and I have loads in common, including writing a book with the same publisher and even the same superhero editor. Going through a large-scale project like writing a book when the world is essentially crumbling down is an interesting experience.
Besides the book, we talk about running a creative business, being yourself in a world that tells you not to be, weaknesses as strengths, and dad jokes.
There's also a pretty exciting announcement...
amzn.to/3zCNzja (Kellee's book: Mixed Media Color Studio)
My book! amzn.to/3zCNzja (Get Messy Art: The No-Rules, No-Judgment, and No-Pressure Approach to Making Art)
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Life is experienced in moments. Some of these moments hold more weight. I don’t know about you, but sometimes I can feel the weight of some moments. There are certain moments in my life that I knew while they were happening that they would change everything.
This is the first episode in my Bookcast series. Bookcast is a group of podcast episodes dedicated to sharing the behind-the-scenes of writing my first art book. In the series, you'll find tips for writing your own book, and insight into the messy middle of book writing.
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Shay is so full of wisdom and kindness, and she encourages that you create the same within yourself too. After hearing a testimonial about her class, that it was “like a spa for your creative soul”, I knew I had to pick her brain. Grab your supplies and listen mindfully while you work…
Shay is the guest artist for the Season of Mindfulness at Get Messy. Join and receive instant access to her lessons (including the video version of this discussion).
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Rachael is my friend in real life. Not only is this episode proof that I have friends, it's also an exploration into what creating art in the "in-between" looks like. Rach is someone who says things that are so profound that I have to whip out my notebook in real life to write it down. I knew that we had to record one of our discussions for the podcast. This particular chat centered around what living as an artist means, practically. Looking for space to grow, but still giving ourselves safety. Using all the different bits of life, taking what we need, and turning them (sometimes) into art that is true.
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I had never thought of photography as art. I had always thought it was just for logical people following a very precise way of doing things. It felt like the opposite of creativity to me.
Enter Pete. Pete sees creativity in a way not unlike my own - as a looping rollercoaster with no end goal and just the journey to go with.
Turns out photography is something where you can achieve creative flow and freedom and turn something into your own. All the best bits of art.
Photography is where you get to follow your curiosity.
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Today I sat down with Tricia. Tricia is wise and someone that you wanna have in your corner because she's very zen about art making, very knowledgeable and plays between the right and left side of your brain so well. She's a great encourager and wise mentor. We talk about her creative routines and how they've changed over the course of her life. We also talk about teching online and in person, and the impact mentoring has on her own work.
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Every guest I have on the podcast is my favourite, but this is my favourite favourite and most exciting. It's someone who excites me every day. My husband, T Grey. We're talking about what it's like being on the other side of someone who lives life creatively. We get into the way his logical, rock solid, INTJ brain sees art, and his evil plans for not allowing me to own all the dogs I want to own.
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This is the story of what happens when a perfectionist decides to actively go against her own nature in lieu of making the art that her soul needs.
Iris and I talk about her brave decision to deliberately choose wonkiness, ignore self-doubt, and go for process over product in order to live her true creative life.
If you're a perfectionist, Iris will encourage you to give yourself permission for your recovery to start with art.
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The Get Messy Season of Collaboration was in January. But community continues to be a Big Deal to us Messy Artists.
If you've ever experienced a creative drought, you'll know the impact that your creative family can have on helping you through it, giving tips on finding the other side, and making you feel less alone in your struggle.
If you've ever experienced a creative high, you'll know how much higher it feels when you share your wins and celebrate your creative flow with others.
In this episode of the Get Messy podcast, I'm calling on the combined knowledge of a small group of Messians. Traci and Meghan, Jenna and Dawn, and Sarah and Melenia share what they learned and what they gained from their creative connection during Get Messy's Season of Collaboration.
Our guests in this episode:
Meghan: @happy.hands.create
Traci: @thisistruleetraci
Jenna: @ginnistonik
Dawn: @shareyourjoy13
Sarah: @juicy.s.art
Melenia: @agap_melenia
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For the month of January, we focused on creative collaboration at Get Messy. Claudette Hasenjager and Char DeRouin led the way to nurture a safe space for artists to find their creative soul mate. For just the month, or for beyond.
This excitement about creative collaboration stemmed from their own experiences collaborating with each other. In this episode, we discuss their fears, style mixing, and mutual fangirling while being each other's personal cheerleader. We discuss the best way to find someone to collaborate with, what working with another artist has done to their own work, and just generally get mushy about each other.
It's a vrou-mance (an Afrikaans version of Bro-mance for women) and it's beautiful to listen to. By the end of the episode, you'll be rushing to your phone to invite one of your favourites to make some art with you.
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In this Messy Conversations episode, Jenna chats with Gilly about her creative process and thinking around art journaling. They discuss how art journaling encormpasses everything and how you make it what you want it to be.

Gilly shares how she's able to be creative every single day due to the freedom given - no boundaries, and no rules.

We are all busy but when we put small bits together with pockets of time, it starts to make a huge difference.

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This is an AMA (Ask Me Anything) episode, where you're the one who asks me anything and I'm the one who answers. We cover a host of topics, mostly about supplies and where I'm at in my creative practice.

I share my favourite tools, classes, and resources for making art.

I discuss themes I'm processing through art (now and always), coming back to art after a creative drought, and a new way I'm merging meditation with creation.

A host of miscellaneous questions and answers.

And an in depth look at my love for white hair and #ff66cc.

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Nope, Caylee didn't become an American for the new year. That smooth, calming radio voice you're listening to is Get Messy Guardian's @ginnistonik. She's interviewing the marvellous Guardians of the Community to bring even more inspir-action and encouragement to your ears.

The best part of someone else hosting the podcast is that we get to wax lyrical about how wise BOTH of them are. Such great insights in this episode. My favourite bit is the part where art gets lyrics... create alongside them and let us know what your favourite bit is too.

Since these are part of the new series of Messy Conversations, you get to watch it on YouTube if you'd like to see their gorgeous faces too - member or not.

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The best thing to come out of 2020 for me has been my studio. It's my one true love (sorry T). It's an old shipping container in an old slaughterhouse. It's gritty, and raw, it's hipster as hell, and its mine.

This studio has enabled me to do that weird thing people talk about called "work-life-balance" and for that, I am truly grateful.

I wanted to dedicate an episode of the podcast to it. It has a story. It's a love story. And to make it worth your while, I'm sharing what a studio space of your own might do for you...

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Why is it so difficult to just. make. art? We know how much we love it and how it feeds our soul. We know it makes us better in a multitude of ways, but sometimes even the thing we love the most can feel like a massive effort.

I talk to Anna Baer, aka Olive Green Anna, about this. We talk about her mad skills – in creating art, in getting others to make art, and in pep talking directly to the heart.

I wanted to get together to talk about her latest offering, the Take Time to Make at-home artist residency, mainly because I’m taking part in it. I also sneakily wanted to learn more about her as a human since she lives so close to me.

Our conversation lit me on fire. I loved hearing about how her process and seeing art as wildness in control; a way to see what comes out of her. We speak about destroying your own art in order to make space, removing the preciousness of supplies, making shit art, and where we put our worth as artists.

Grab your supplies and let us keep you company while you create…

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The podcast is back! And we're jumping right into the deep end. We're not talking about surface level art here, no no, you can't really do that with my guest. Vanessa Oliver-Lloyd and I are talking about a way to get around how damn hard it is to put your inner heart into your art. Not just putting your likes and dislikes onto the page, not just your paper ephemera, and not just what you did that day (although all of those are great). We're discussing V's favourite technique for telling your story without it being draining.

Cause we all have issues. We all have a story that has led us to the point we're at. We're all still on a journey. It may be beautiful, it may be painful, it probably is raw. Art is very good at helping unload that weight. But it's not necessarily easy to do.

We wanted to talk about the creative process of making an online class, but in true Vanessa fashion, we ended up talking about so much more than that.

I'm glad you could join us.

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The focus of my life currently is this:

PRODUCE MORE. CONSUME LESS.

It’s a bold statement. With so much great stuff on the internet, and with it being so easy to be sucked into Pinterest, Instagram, blogs, and galleries, I’m needing to step back all the more. We consume so many things every day that actively trying to produce more than that is a big feat. There are two ways of doing it: either producing more than a hundred things per day, or drastically reducing how much you consume and making more than that number. I don’t want what I make to be influenced by someone else’s. I don’t want to be comparing how much I make. I don’t want to be making less because I’m too busy staring in awe at someone else’s stuff. I want my Ideas book to be a to do list and I want to get. shit. done.

There are a million reasons why I want to consume less and the number one reason is to produce more. I want to make a lot of stuff. I want to make up for lost time. I want to record all my memories before I lose them. I want to make a whole bunch of rubbish stuff so that I can get to making the good stuff.

And so I made an action plan. Here are the ways that I’m shifting my default to producing instead of consuming.

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One of the biggest things that art journalers struggle with in their creative practice is the journaling part of art journaling. It’s weird. I know. A while back, I invited a journaling expert to help the Get Messy community with how to find the words. Elaine Kiziah completely blew it out of the park with the workshop she created for us. Journaling is an amazing tool to dig deep into your core and to really connect with yourself.

There is a stack of practical ways to get the most of your journaling strung around this episode, and Elaine is such a wonderful guide. Dig deep… connect with your true self and find joy…

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What is it about art journaling that makes it actual magic? Out of all the different ways to be creative, why do we choose art journaling? Why is this the one thing we have stuck with over time, and the one thing that we are constantly falling in love with? In order to answer this question with Wendy Solganik, we need to dissect her entire creative story.

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You are going to love this episode. I’m chatting with Tara and Sandra from Kick in the Creatives. And if you don’t know them yet, by the end of this episode, you’re going to fall just as in love with them as I have. And good news for you because they’ve got their own podcast and you can binge listen to them and just take in everything that they have.

Kick in the creatives is a place where you can find creative challenges, and they’re all listed by month. They’re all there for you so you never get that FOMO for missing out on a creative challenge. It’s run by Sandra Busby and Tara Roskell.

Sandra is a still life artist and she’s best known for her paintings which are incredible, like you should really check them out. I can’t understand how they are not photographs. But yeah, Sandra mainly does a lot of paintings of glass and other reflective objects. And she didn’t actually mean to get into fine art. It actually happened by accident. We’ll talk a little bit about her story in the episode.

Sandra found a partner in crime with Tara Roskell who took the traditional art college route. She didn’t really know what to do with her art and so she moved into graphic design. She’s been in that industry for over 20 years, and it’s now freelancing. When Sandra’s not designing, she’s scribbling, doodling and taking part in these creative challenges and you should really look at her work too. It’ll give you a good idea of the type of person you’re listening to and the person that I’m chatting to today. You should see her portraits. They are so unique. And they are so inspiring, and they definitely encourage me to hone in on my own style rather than trying someone else’s.

We had a wonderful chat, and I’m really excited for you to listen to it.

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Today I chatted with the incredible Barbara J Graham. She is the guest artist for Get Messy's Season of Less. We spoke a lot about how she creates, how she puts her emotions into her paintings, and how she is able to express the intangible in something tangible. Barbara has a beautiful story about how she came to art and how art was there all along. How art kept knocking at the door no matter how many times she tried to ignore it.

I think that you'll find that the summary is this episode's title: don't compromise. Don't compromise on your art. Tell the stories of your soul, tell your life, tell your life through moments and moments with art and just show up to the page. Even if you think that it's not your time, I mean, Barbara was 37 when she went to art school, and that is incredible. That's an incredible story of resilience and strength and courage. Her art is beautiful and expressive and if Barbara can can do it, you can too. I hope that's what you take from this episode.

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Oh, Messy artist, I have a treat for you this week on the podcast. Today I spoke with Hannah Fitzgibbon, and let me tell you… I feel like my whole world has changed. My creativity has been rocked, everything… You are going to love Hannah as much as I love her because she is amazing, articulate, and wise. The stuff that we spoke about today has revolutionised everything I know about creativity. All I’ve been doing for the past 6 years is creating, listening to people talk about creating, listening to people’s views on creating, helping others create, helping myself create more. And this is the first time that I’ve heard someone speak about creativity in this way.

In our episode, we talk about joy and flow in our creativity. There’s just so much more to it, and so much more depth to this conversation. We speak about a lot, we cover a lot, and a lot of new ideas or different ways of thinking, but I hope you spend time meditating on each point.

Play us, listen to us while you’re creating, but also write down Hannah’s words and spend some time reflecting on the way she sees things and the way she can help you things. I don’t know exactly what kind of creating you do but I know that Hannah is going to be great for it.

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I recently received an email from Kate, who had a problem. I could relate and wanted to help. Maybe you need to hear this too.

If you're feeling overwhelmed with how many options you have, if you're feeling stuck creatively, or if you're a perfectionist and you're super hard on yourself.... this episode is my letter to you. Here's what to do.

And of course it's actionable.

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Today’s episode is a good one. You’re gonna love it. I know you’re gonna love it because it has Connie Solera in it. And Connie has a heart of gold. She’s a great teacher. She’s an incredible artist and I feel like she was put on this earth just to make everyone else better artists – she’s wonderful. Connie is also the guest artist for the season at Get Messy. And if you’re a Messian, and you’ve watched her workshop, you’ll know what I’m talking about. She’s amazing. She’ll make you amazing. Just listen to this chat that I have with her and I dare you to not run to your art journal.

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Today I am chatting with the beautiful, the kind, the lovely Meg Journals. She has a beautiful accent, a beautiful heart and beautiful journals to match. It was a completely spontaneous interview chat thing just as I was heading off to the train station for my mom but I hope that you create as we chat. I love Meg, I know that you are going to love her.

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Morning pages are going to change your life. Morning pages are going to give you better art, better relationships, better mental health and a clear head. In this episode, I'm going to chat about how I make them work for me and give you an exact to do list on how you can make them work for you, how you can rock them, how you can make your life rock due to morning pages.

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Once again I am freaking excited about this week's guest on the podcast. This week it's the beautiful Karen Abend. She has a heart of gold and I'm really excited about our chat today.

In this episode we discuss the absolute magic of sketchbooks. We discuss how sketchbooks are the root of everything creative, no matter what you call them - sketchbook, art journal, notebook, junk journal... all of those good things.

I hope you play this while you are creating in your sketchbook, your art journal, whatever you call it. Let's all create together.

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"You’re putting your life into it so that’s what makes it something special. That’s what makes you appreciate it and other people as well. It really doesn’t matter what you use and it’s funny to say that because I make journals and I’m very passionate about it because I think what you use can inspire you and be a very, very powerful tool to keep you documenting. But at the same time, once you develop the habits and the style and you develop the passion for it, then it’s not going to bother you what you use." – Johanna Clough

Today in a historical first, I am interviewing Johanna Clough. It’s historical because it’s the first time I am interviewing her, but also the first podcast she has been on, which I am excited about because I am a hardcore Johanna fangirl. I love what she creates, who she is as a person, and the encouragement she brings to the art community.

Johanna is an absolute delight. This conversation that we had is an absolute delight. You are absolutely going to love it.

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"I don't take it upon myself to make my art last forever." - Mou Saha

Mou is the guest artist for Get Messy's Season of Belonging and she is an absolute zen queen. We talk about her journey, how she created belonging within her art, how she tells her truth, and her journey to realising that she is enough.

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Every year, Get Messy hosts a workshop on reflecting back on the year, and creating intentions for the year ahead. This year we have two very special guests. Print out the workbook, grab a pen and watch the video below where Debbie, Cindy, and Caylee walk you through reflecting on 2019 and planning for 2020.

Cindy Jay and Debbie Bamberger are prolific artists with big hearts. I sat down with them to reflect on our 2019 years in art, and to create intentions for 2020. This is an informal episode where friends chat and laugh, but one with so many takeaways from these wise women.

Join us to reflect on your year and plan for (another) creatively fueled year.

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In this episode, I chat to Rebecca Kochenderfer, the founder of Journaling.com and a lifetime journaler. Rebecca shares her experiences, approach, and tips surrounding the practise for both business and personal life. She walks us through the five paths of journaling, effects on our well-being and methods of journaling.

"It's not selfish to look out for yourself." - Rebecca Kochenderfer

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"The only bad art is the art you don't make" - Amy Maricle

In this podcast, I chat to Amy Maricle about art with intention. Amy shares some of her most profound views on how to become more aware and intentional in your art practice. We discuss what it means to be mindful, how mindfulness changes your art, being zen about thinking big and letting go, the inner critic, Amy's weaknesses, and how to be an artist

As always, Amy is just bursting with insane wisdom.

"Mindfulness is about being aware of what is actually happening in the moment instead of getting caught up in the many things that might be going on inside your brain" - Amy Maricle

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If you want to be an artist, if you want to create a lot of work and for it to be a part of your life - you do need a creative habit. It doesn’t need to be an hour every day.

In this podcast, I chat to Anika Lacerte about creative habit. As someone who is currently on her 9th 100 day project, Anika is kind of an expert at it. She shares her top 16 ways for fitting art into your life every single freaking day. Check out the show notes to download the PDF and keep it with you to refer back to.

“It’s not always a magical moment but I’m choosing to show up. Whether it becomes magical or not is irrelevant.” - Anika Lacerte

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Inspiration does not exist. It's a lie. Inspiration is not real. True inspiration is the kind that leads to immediate action. Inspiration that leads to nothing tangible is... nothing.

There's something tangible standing between an idea and something being realised.

That something is YOU.

YOU ARE THE ONLY THING STANDING BETWEEN FEELING WARM AND FUZZY INSIDE AND ACTUAL, REAL LIFE MAGIC.

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In this episode of the podcast, I was awed by Morgan Harper Nichols. Yup, that's right. The Morgan Harper Nichols. MHN and I talk about how selflessness is important to her artistic process. How she finds purpose in her art by creating beyond herself. As someone who created an entire life and business around creative community, this chat rocked my world.

"We all have beauty to bring into the world. Art is something that has a purpose. It is taking something that you have experienced or gone through and turning it into something that has a purpose beyond yourself for someone else" - Morgan Harper Nichols

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I used to be what I will graciously call passive.

I had (and have) a really good life. I was born into a self-made wealthy family. Every bit of my life (and the lives of my ancestors) was put together so that I could live an easy life. My parents did this weird thing where they actually loved each other. They loved me too. My sister was amazing. My friends were amazing. None of us did drugs. School came easy to me. Everything came easy to me. Life was easy, and because of this, I just let life do its thing. I allowed the mother of my high school boyfriend to fill in a university application for me and I went there simply because I got in. I didn’t put any thought into what degree I was going to do, it was chosen based on what I didn’t want to do. I found my group of incredible friends within my first week of being in a new city at university because we were the only English speakers in the residence. I even met my future husband while playing around on my computer.

Life was good, and it was certainly good enough.

And then a few things started creeping from the cracks that I had ignored. I grew into the biggest depression of my life. I didn’t fall into it; I wasn’t smacked in the face by it; I allowed myself, little by little, to grow into something simply because I didn’t make an effort not to. I didn’t go to the psychologist, I didn’t force myself out of bed right when the feelings started, I didn’t learn coping strategies. I simply allowed it to consume me. I welcomed it like an old blanket and hid in its cosy fort. In my second year of university, I had a breakdown. I can distinctly remember the exact moment that I curled on the floor in a university residence shower and cried. I can still smell the shampoo.

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Making art should be easy. Turn up the music, select your arty weapons of choice, crack your knuckles and then, well, make art. But let’s be honest: Art is messy. (Heck, life is messy!)

So even though it’s so important to you to be an artist and create art regularly … you aren’t.

I get it.

You can't be an artist because you have no time.

You can't be an artist because you're broke.

You can't be an artist because you don't have talent.

You can’t be an artist because you don’t know where to start … or how to finish.

But the truth is that you CAN be an artist. Right here, right now.

Hey, I'm Caylee Grey. Creator of Get Messy, official fairy freaking artmother and your pro excuse-squashing ninja.

In the Get Messy podcast I’ll be chatting to a selection of amazing, real-life humans just like you are who are dealing with the very same barriers … but overcoming them to create their art.

Together, we’ll explore what it REALLY means to be an artist. Practically. Warts and all. So that you can be an artist, today, now, even if you work a day job, have a million and one commitments and own a cat that likes sitting on your art.

No more excuses. Okay? Okay.

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