The Go Getters with Dana Publicover and Ross Chapman
By Ross Chapman
About the hosts:
Dana Publicover builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross Chapman is the head of design thinking at Etch. They’re both design sprint experts, masters of facilitation, and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
The Go Getters with Dana Publicover and Ross ChapmanApr 29, 2021
The Most Expensive Part of Your Work
A tough week for Ross at home, a lesson in delegation, getting the buy-in you need to do your !@£*@! job, and a virtual meeting hack to get documented approval: the selfie sticker!
Each episode, long-distance pals Ross & Dana talk about life, industry, tools & learning as they navigate parallel careers—one in-house at an agency and one self-employed—and their lives as parents, partners, and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Dana runs an agency that builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs. Ross is the head of design at Odobo.
Bones in the Basement
Broken bones & found bones—how Dana's photography career took a hit and a little something different for our 13th episode, on the eve of Halloween: a 100% true scary story (followed by a 10% true story told with much less flair). We also talk about how you can claim to be one thing and how to easily pivot—seriously, no one cares—and how to grow into your role at work.
Each episode, long-distance pals Ross & Dana talk about life, industry, tools & learning as they navigate parallel careers—one in-house at an agency and one self-employed—and their lives as parents, partners, and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Dana runs an agency that builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs. Ross is the head of design at Odobo.
How to find other people jobs
Two champion networkers (can one give oneself a gold medal in networking?) unpack the real value of a network & talk about different ways to make the most of the people you know.
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Mostly. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, tools & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts:
Dana builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design at Obodo. They’re both design sprint leaders & facilitation experts, parents and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Links:
Dana’s 120-ish bpm playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/70HZMaBG4a0GsbRJ7VZ1gN?si=c1281dedd6874237
Oh, the Jobs We've Had!
Can Ross pull off a brand sprint with only 5 minutes of prep? Also, why is he so boring and grownup now? We get real about anxiety and how we structure our work around it. Our tool this episode is Otter—and it’s making Dana’s sales calls even better. We talk about early grunt work in agencies and internships (jobs that have been replaced by AI), and Dana confesses her celebrity crush—don’t judge!
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Mostly. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, tools & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts:
Dana builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design at Odobo. They’re both design sprint leaders & facilitation experts, parents and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Otter: AI Transcription
Why Dutch Women Don’t Get Depressed: New York Times article
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/06/arts/06iht-happy.1.6024209.html?smid=url-share
Just scan my freakin' retina
Freelancing under the radar—how to get away with it, why you should do it, and when to make the leap. We’ve violated plenty of employer agreements and we’re here to tell you everything we know. For tools, it’s password managers! We’ve tried ‘em all, and here are the best ones.
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Mostly. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, tools & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts:
Dana builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design at Odobo. They’re both design sprint leaders & facilitation experts, parents and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Bitwarden:
www.bitwarden.com
Dashlane:
1Password:
Oona Out of Order book
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45046893-oona-out-of-order
The Millionaire Next Door
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/998.The_Millionaire_Next_Door
2.3 Million Women & the Future
2.3 Million Women have been forced to leave their jobs. What will this mean for the future of society? An emotional and candid discussion about the pandemic’s impact on women & their roles in the workplace. Ross has a big announcement, we (still) hate Value Ladders & MLMs (with a reluctant admission this time). Our Tool Talk segment is on Loom, our favorite asynchronous collaboration tool.
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Mostly. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, tools & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts:
Dana builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design at Odobo. They’re both design sprint leaders & facilitation experts, parents and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
One Line A Day journal
https://www.amazon.com/Canvas-One-Line-Day-Five-Year/dp/1452174792/
Loom
Willow Crossley (florist)
Ep 8: Your clients aren’t stupid
Are you making this rookie consultant move? It’s clickbait but it’s true. We also ponder the “new Y2K”: are our data structures outdated for gender and other criteria? Our tool this episode is Butter, the new virtual meeting tool on the block and fave of facilitators everywhere. Also—why can’t we just be happy with the status quo?
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Mostly. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, tools & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts:
Dana builds human-centered sales strategies & designs sales communications for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design at Odobo. They’re both design sprint leaders & facilitation experts, parents and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Watch the Video Version of this episode: https://youtu.be/we8zAiErL70
Butter: https://butter.us/
The Donut of Planetary & Social Bounderies
https://www.kateraworth.com/doughnut
Ep. 7: Nothing is free and everything is valuable
It’s May 4th and apparently that’s a Star Wars reference? We get candid and transparent about consultant life. The tool of the week is Canva and we talk use cases, cost and speculate on who might acquire it. We also discuss new ways to address CTAs (like Book a Call) and re-imagining the sales & client experience. Also—is Dana “playing small”?
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Mostly. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, tools & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts:
Dana builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design thinking at Etch. They’re both design sprint leaders & facilitation experts, parents and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Links from the show:
Zwift: https://www.zwift.com/
Canva: http://www.canva.com
Small Giants book:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/100467.Small_Giants
Poolside: http://poolside.fm
Ep. 6: Get a Brendan!
Should we be talking about our salaries? We scratch the surface on gender pay inequality and Dana shares her no-fail hack to help women get paid. The debut of a new segment (tool tips!) means we dive into one we love to hate: Notion. Plus, mission-driven companies IRL: we call BS.
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Mostly. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts: Dana builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design thinking at Etch. They’re both design sprint leaders & facilitation experts, parents and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Links from the show:
Hyper Island: https://www.hyperisland.com/
Tony’s Chocolonely: https://tonyschocolonely.com/
Marie Poulin’s Notion Templates: https://mariepoulin.com/blog/notion-template-the-all-in-one-personal-hq/
Notion enhancer: https://github.com/notion-enhancer/notion-enhancer
Mirror (home gym): https://www.mirror.co/
Ep. 5: The One Where Dana Loses All of Her Fans
Our hot take on the booming coaching industry with some passionate (if divisive) opinions. We discuss typical Go-Getter reactions to negative feedback and examine a new realm of virtual job titles.
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Mostly. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts:
Dana builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design thinking at Etch. They’re both design sprint leaders & facilitation experts, parents and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Links from the show:
Head of Remote Work
https://www.showpad.com/blog/head-of-remote-work/
Ep 4: This will come back to haunt me at some point
Ross returns to work after a week of vacation and we discuss presenteeism in remote work culture and deal breakers at work. Dana recaps a very ridiculous recent sales call & the intersection of Dungeons, Dragons & Sales.
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts:
Dana builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design thinking at Etch. They’re both design sprint experts, masters of facilitation, and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Links from the show:
Originals by Adam Grant
https://www.adamgrant.net/book/originals/
Loom
Alex Danco’s Newsletter:
https://alexdanco.com/
Remote Sprinters Facebook Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/remotesprinters
Watch the video version of this episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxfOXs8tkZg
Ep. 3: The Hapless Tweaker
You don’t even need a logo! The Go-Getters discuss the state of personal branding in 2021 and the first investments new freelancers and business owners should prioritize. Plus—our thoughts on the value ladder and up-selling culture in general.
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Mostly. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts:
Dana builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design thinking at Etch. They’re both design sprint experts, masters of facilitation, and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Links from the show:
1997 Pure Moods Album on Spotify (WAY better than the one Dana made!)
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0G079D1HMnVZGY63Ij3csh?si=8v76H7iOTym2ODDb3yFQzw
Ross’s Newsletter
https://coolness.rosschapman.com/
Ep. 2: A fun story to tell in 10 (30) years
Well, the schools in Germany are closed again and it’s month 6 of lockdown for Dana. Ross is living vicariously through his kids (is that a bad thing?) and companies are pushing for a return to in-person work even though the world isn’t ready.
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts:
Dana builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design thinking at Etch. They’re both design sprint experts, masters of facilitation, and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Links from the show:
Product Hunt: http://www.producthunt.com
Buffer.ing - Fake a Bad Connection on Zoom
https://www.producthunt.com/posts/bufferi-ng
ChatBot Visual Builder
https://www.producthunt.com/posts/chatbot-visual-builder
Pitchcraft
http://www.danapublicover.com/pitchcraft
Ep 1: “No loss of life, so we can laugh about it“
We chat about pricing and value for consultants, and examine the future of hybrid work (a mix of remote & in-person). It’s what employees want, and what companies are promising. But how will it really work?
We set a timer for each topic and move on when the timer dings. Each episode, the topics are: life, industry, & learning and each week we bring something new to discuss in those topics.
About the hosts:
Dana builds human-centered sales strategies for B2Bs, Ross is the head of design thinking at Etch. They’re both design sprint experts, masters of facilitation, and ambitious go-getters who always find something in the way.
Links from the show:
Go Getters on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/gogetterspod
You can watch the video version of the podcast on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/xa32WEXriyU
Evergiven map link:
http://evergiven-everywhere.glitch.me/
The Multi-Hyphen Method - Emma Gannon
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36447027-the-multi-hyphen-method