
The HeyCreator Show
By HeyCreator


046: How to Run a Calm, Profitable Creator Business (Without Burning Out) — with Dr. Monica Rysavy
Feeling overwhelmed by your creative business?
What if you could ditch the chaos and build a calm, profitable, and sustainable system that actually works for you?
In this episode, Matt sits down with Dr. Monica Rysavy—systems designer, Airtable genius, and founder of the Systematic AF Club—to unpack the powerful workflows used by 7-figure creators to track revenue, content, and engagement… all in one place.
You’ll learn:
What a CEO Dashboard is—and why every creator needs one
How to stop guessing and start growing with clear, trackable metrics
Smart ways to align client work, products, and community without burnout
Real-world examples of systems that save time and scale impact
Whether you’re flying solo or building a small team, this episode will help you think like a CEO and act with clarity. Let’s get systematic AF.
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What we talk about in this episode
00:00 Introduction to Building a Sustainable Creator Business
01:04 Understanding the CEO Dashboard
01:50 Tracking Metrics and Revenue
03:08 Time Management and ROI
06:00 Using Airtable for Business Automation
09:39 Leveraging Community Engagement
13:38 Reflecting on Financial Data
19:59 Balancing Client Work and Creative Projects
24:33 Aligning Services and Membership Models
25:21 Pitching and Client Strategies
26:31 Community Engagement and Pricing
27:15 Tutorials and CEO Dashboard
31:41 AI in Productivity and Systems
37:43 Content Remixing and Consistency
43:32 Future Trends and Online Communities
44:59 Systematic AF Club Overview

045: Unstuck: How Creators Reclaim Energy, Clarity & Flow - Hayden Flohr
Feeling creatively stuck, burned out, or caught between work that pays and work that lights you up?
In this episode, Matt is joined by creator coach Hayden Flohr to unpack the stress loop killing your flow—and how to escape it.
You’ll learn how to reclaim your energy, shift limiting beliefs, and build a business that actually feels good. Expect honest stories, powerful mindset shifts, and practical tools you can use today to get back to what really matters.
What we talk about in this episode
00:00 Introduction: Overcoming Creative Burnout
01:13 The Role of Stress in Creativity
03:20 Practical Tips for Reducing Stress
08:16 The Importance of Being Presen
t13:10 Identifying and Overcoming Limiting Beliefs
15:41 Balancing Passion and Profit
22:31 Listening to Your Body's Signals
25:37 Understanding Your Body's Responses
28:11 Generative Questions and Mindset Shifts
30:06 Embracing the Woo in Entrepreneurship
35:54 The Power of Letting Go
39:21 Clarifying Your Goals
44:52 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

044: Why Trading Time For Money Is The Best Way To Build Your Business - with Nick Huber
Everyone talks about passive income, but what if the fastest way to make real money isn’t launching a course or building a product?
In this episode, I sit down with Nick Huber—entrepreneur, investor, and author of The Sweaty Startup—to explore why trading time for money might be the most underrated path to financial freedom.
We talk service businesses, scalable skills, and how doing unsexy work can lead to life-changing results. If you’re tired of waiting for your big break, this conversation will show you how to earn it.
What we talk about in this episode
00:00 The Truth About Revenue for Online Creators
01:52 The Reality of Entrepreneurship
02:52 The Value of Service Work
04:13 Starting Simple and Scaling Smart
05:41 Nick Huber's Early Entrepreneurial Journey
08:51 The Importance of Proven Business Models
17:22 Leveraging Global Talent for Business Growth
27:56 Challenges of Writing a Book
29:20 Balancing Feedback and Creativity
31:31 Writing Process and Time Management
40:10 Fear Setting and Overcoming Insecurities
43:44 Making Life Decisions for Success
49:32 Final Thoughts and the Sweaty Startup Book
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043: Should You Start With Clients, Content, or Community? (What I’d Do Differently)
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I get it—my business looks chaotic from the outside. Three revenue streams, two audiences… it seems scattered. But there’s a strategy behind it.
In this episode, I’m breaking down how I’m connecting content, clients, and community into a long-term creator flywheel—and why I wouldn’t recommend this approach if you're just starting out.
I’ll share what’s working, what I’d do differently, and how I’m shifting from client-heavy work to a more sustainable, creator-led business.
If you’re building your own thing and want to see how the pieces can fit together, this one’s for you.
00:00 Introduction: The Chaos Behind My Business
00:35 The Flywheel Strategy: Connecting Content, Community, and Clients
01:11 YouTube Channel: The Top of the Funnel
01:58 Hey Creator Community: Behind the Scenes Access
04:25 Client Work: Funding the Future
06:22 High Ticket Services: A Sustainable Revenue Model
09:13 Long-Term Vision: Building a Sustainable Business
10:36 Conclusion: How It All Fits Together

042: How Tiny Experiments Can Transform Your Work and Life - with Anne-Laure Le Cunff
In this episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt sits down with Anne-Laure Le Cunff—author of Tiny Experiments and founder of Ness Labs—to talk about the power of small, low-risk experiments in boosting creativity and productivity.
They break down how micro-experiments can help creators avoid burnout, build momentum, and make smarter decisions.
Anne-Laure shares the behind-the-scenes of writing her newsletter, growing a thriving community, and completing her PhD in neuroscience—all while balancing her creative work.
They also dive into the writing process of her book, Tiny Experiments, and unpack real-world strategies for book promotion that don’t feel salesy.
If you’re looking for practical ways to fine-tune your habits, stay creative, and make sustainable progress in your creator journey, this episode is packed with actionable takeaways you won’t want to miss!
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction to Tiny Experiments02:04 Balancing Multiple Projects05:15 Weekly Review Framework10:07 Designing Tiny Experiments14:31 The Goal of Learning21:45 The Start of a Writing Journey26:39 Crafting Content for Your Audience33:28 Starting the Ness Labs Community36:49 Cultivating a Self-Sustaining Community39:44 The Journey of Writing a Book45:37 Book Promotion Strategies48:00 Navigating the Book Writing Process59:49 What's Next for Anne-Laure?
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041: The BIGGEST Reason Creators Stay Stuck [Voice Memo]
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Why do so many creators get stuck—and more importantly, how do you break free? In this video, I share the biggest reason creators struggle to grow and the mindset shift that helped me move forward. If you’re feeling stuck in your creative journey, unsure of your next step, or debating a big transition, this is for you.
I’ll walk through:
✅ The common trap that holds creators back
✅ How to make strategic decisions for long-term success
✅ Practical steps to regain momentum and start creating with confidence
You’re not alone in this journey. Whether you’re pivoting your business, redefining your goals, or just looking for clarity, I hope this video helps you take that next big step.
00:00 Introduction: Embracing Big Changes
00:28 Quitting My Job and Early Challenges
01:11 Learning and Growth with Darrell Vesterfelt
02:46 Balancing Family and Career
03:36 Financial Lessons and Tax Troubles
04:23 Focusing on Creative Projects
06:43 Goals for 2025 and Beyond
09:00 Aspirations and Personal Growth
11:43 Conclusion: Join HeyCreator
Be a part of a strong community of creators and get weekly live calls to help you level up!

040: Master YouTube Growth in 2025: Expert Tips from Aprilynne Alter
Want to grow your YouTube channel in 2025? In this episode, I sit down with Aprilynne Alter to break down the biggest mistakes YouTubers make—and how to fix them. From optimizing your titles and thumbnails to crafting the perfect video intro, Aprilynne shares expert-level strategies to increase your clicks, retention, and engagement.
She also reveals storytelling frameworks, how to structure your content for maximum watch time, and why authenticity is the key to success in an AI-driven world.
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Key Takeaways:
• Packaging (Title & Thumbnail) is Everything – Your title and thumbnail set the expectation and determine whether someone clicks. The best creators think about these before scripting or filming.
• The First 5 Seconds Matter – Reinforce your title’s promise immediately. Start with “So…” or “This…” to quickly establish relevance and curiosity.
• Shorten Your Intros – Keep it under 25 seconds. People want value fast, so don’t lose them with unnecessary context.
• Think in “Promise, Progress, Payoff” – Every section of your video should set up curiosity (Promise), provide insight (Progress), and deliver value (Payoff).
• Consistency in Format & Experience – If you’re mixing formats (tutorials, interviews, vlogs), make sure they provide a consistent experience to your audience.
• Authenticity Wins in an AI World – Viewers crave real humans, real stories, and unscripted moments. Don’t over-polish—lean into personality, mistakes, and humor.
• Your Outro Should Have Purpose – Don’t just sign off—guide your audience to the next step (watch another video, subscribe, join a community, etc.).
Timestamps & Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:30 Biggest Mistake Creators Make: Packaging (Title & Thumbnail)
07:01 Why You Need to Think About Titles/Thumbnails First
10:11 When to Prioritize Quality vs. Just Publishing Videos
12:50 The First 5 Seconds Rule: Hooking Viewers Instantly
13:57 How to Start a Video: The “So” or “This” Hack
20:05 Shorten Your Intros! Keep it Under 25 Seconds
22:38 The Power of “Promise, Progress, Payoff” Storytelling
27:48 How to Improve Engagement & Retention
29:24 The Best Way to End a YouTube Video
34:53 Should You Separate Your Podcast from Your Main Channel?
41:30 The Biggest YouTube Trends for 2025 (Storytelling & Authenticity)
46:15 Why AI Won’t Replace Real Creators & How to Stand Out
49:04 Aprilynne’s YouTube Journey & Growing a Sustainable Business
55:28 High-Ticket Communities vs. Consulting: The Future of Creator Businesses
1:02:24 Final Thoughts & Where to Find Aprilynne
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040: You Don't Need A Big Audience to Land Big Brand Deals (with Justin Moore)
Think you need a huge audience to land brand deals? Think again! In this episode, Justin Moore, creator of Sponsor Magnet and founder of Creator Wizard, shares actionable strategies for landing sponsorships, standing out with brands, and building revenue—no matter your follower count. Don’t miss it!
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00:00 - Introduction
Discover why follower count isn’t everything in sponsorships and meet Justin Moore, creator of Sponsor Magnet.
01:20 - Debunking the Follower Myth
Justin explains why you don’t need a massive audience to land sponsorships.
04:30 - Common Mistakes in Sponsorships
Why traditional pitching methods fail and how to stand out.
08:15 - The Sponsorship Continuum Framework
Justin introduces a roadmap for creators at any stage to secure brand deals.
13:00 - Real-Life Examples of Niche Success
Case studies of creators thriving with small but engaged audiences.
18:40 - Building a Sponsorship Pitching Habit
How consistency and proactive outreach can unlock opportunities.
24:00 - The R.O.P.E. Method for Pitching
Justin’s step-by-step formula for crafting compelling pitches.
31:30 - How to Find the Right Contact at Brands
Tips for identifying decision-makers and ensuring your pitch lands with the right person.
36:45 - Tools for Managing Sponsorships
Justin shares his Notion template and other tips for staying organized.
42:15 - Justin’s Creator Journey and Business Model
How Justin evolved his business to support creators through coaching and resources.
49:30 - Adapting to Platform Changes
Insights on staying ahead of shifts in content trends and algorithms.
54:00 - Sponsor Magnet: The Ultimate Guide
Learn about Justin’s book and why it’s a must-read for creators.
57:40 - Closing Thoughts
Justin’s advice for creators aiming to build sustainable, successful businesses.

039: The Secret to Selling More Without Becoming Internet Famous (with Jonathan Goodman)
Get Jonathan's new book, The Obvious Choice at your favorite bookseller. Learn more here.
0:00 – Introduction
1:47 – Self-Publishing vs Traditional
3:19 – Finding Your Niche for Success
6:49 – The Power of a Back Catalog
11:25 – Self-Publishing vs. Traditional Publishing
16:09 – The Content Hamster Wheel Myth
19:11 – Focus on Real-World Impact
23:15 – The Games of Influence vs. Business
42:25 – The Four-Step Content Creation Framework
53:05 – Thought Leadership vs. Influencership
1:01:11 – Final Thoughts & How to Connect with Jon

038: What Will 2025 Look Like For Creators? Our Predictions
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) make their annual 2025 predictions for the creator economy — including content trends, the importance of relationships, hard work, and, of course, AI.
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037: The Best of HeyCreator 2024
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In today's special episode, we're running through the best HeyCreator moments & advice from 2024 — featuring incredible creators such as Justin Welsh, Amanda Goetz, Jay Clouse, Justin Moore, Gina Bianchini, Corey Wilks Psy.D., Cam Houser, Jason Levin, Cody & Cole Hock, Nat Eliason, Khe Hy, Tim Stoddart, Darrell Vesterfelt, Tim Grahl, Bryan Harris, Rachel Rodgers, Clifton Sellers, Alexis Teichmiller, and our very own Matt Ragland & Tim Forkin.
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036: The Future of Creativity (with Dan Shipper)
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Today, I talked to my friend Dan Shipper (Co-founder and CEO of Every) about the future of creativity — specifically, how and why to use AI to get the most out of our creative work.
This one's a bit deeper than a lot of surface-level AI conversations. We went in on how to use AI as a copilot on creative projects, what it teaches you about yourself as a creator, and the not-so-obvious possibilities coming in the future.
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035: My EXACT Strategy for Crushing New Year Promotions
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The New Year is your chance to make a big impact — not just for your business, but for your audience. Your customers are motivated to start fresh, and you have the tools to help them succeed.
I’ve seen how a clear, well-executed New Year promotion can transform lives and businesses. Last year, this exact strategy helped creators like you double their revenue while helping their audiences achieve their goals.
Today, I’ll share a step-by-step plan you can implement immediately: how to position your product as the solution, build excitement, and execute a high-converting email campaign.
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034: The Case For Going All-In on ONE Format
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) talk about content formats — specifically, why and how to choose the one kind of content you should focus on for the next few years, along with examples of creators succeeding with a signature format.
Examples include Casey Neistat, Daniel Dalen, @bymaximise, Tyler Bruno, Seth Godin and more.
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033: Sell 10x more with one sentence (with John Meese)
In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) works with John Meese on finding his own 10X Promise framework — your one-sentence selling point to display the massive outcome you’ll get for your customers.
John isn’t your typical modern creator — he has no social media, and sells his programs and books almost exclusively through email… so you might want to pay extra close attention to how he’s able to clearly demonstrate his value.
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032: To win, you must see content EVERYWHERE (with Clifton Sellers)
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) are joined by Clifton Sellers (@LegacyBuilder__) to discuss how to grow on social media, finding your unique positioning, the value of content for founders, and much more.
(0:00) — Intro
(3:26) — Finding your unique positioning
(8:24) — Everything is content
(22:34) — How to write like a founder
(33:43) — The move into YouTube
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031: Making Business Growth Damn Near Automatic (with Darrell Vesterfelt)
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030: The Importance of Simple Systems (with Tim Grahl)
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029: Creator Monetization Frameworks (with Tim Stoddart)
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028: The Art of Business (with Bonnie Christine)
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, we’re running an audio-only version of Bonnie Christine’s presentation at the HeyCreator Summit.
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027: The Newsletter-Social Playbook (with Josh Spector)
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) interviews Josh Spector (@jspector) on how to grow your newsletter with social media — and vice versa.
(0:00) — Intro
(4:21) — Do you need more followers, or something else?
(17:20) — Switching from a weekly to daily email
(26:29) — Josh’s presentation on growing your newsletter with social media
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026: The Role of Design & Branding for Creators (with Charli Prangley)
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) catches up with old teammate Charli Prangley (@charliprangley) to discuss the role of design and branding for creators, along with the process of rebranding ConvertKit to Kit and lessons from her journey as a YouTuber.
(0:00) — Intro
(1:48) — The #1 design mistake creators make
(12:26) — Outside perspective on your design process
(22:30) — Charli’s creator journey
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025: $100k/year business with NO social media in 2024 (with Bryan Harris)
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) interviews old friend Bryan Harris (@Harris_Bryan).
Bryan is the founder of Growth Tools and has a vastly different perspective on content, audiences, and business than the majority of our guests. Listen in for his thoughts on which kinds of clients to serve first, why he believes you DON’T need an audience, and the one-word marketing strategy that beats everything else your business can offer.
For HeyCreator listeners, Bryan put together an incredible resource of tools he referenced in the show here.
(0:00) — Intro
(1:01) — The Hershey Kiss/Tesla Strategy
(8:23) — “You don’t need to build an audience…”
(17:50) — How to borrow someone else’s audience
(26:18) — What’s the simplest path towards your business goal?
(37:17) — The one-word marketing strategy
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024: How To Make $1M+ with Memes (with Jason Levin)
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) interview Jason Levin (@iamjasonlevin), a creator, entrepreneur, author of Memes Make Millions, and self-proclaimed memelord who currently serves as the Head of Growth at Product Hunt.
Jason walks us through how to start thinking in memes, the reality of how memes can make millions for your company, and why being funny on the internet is the best long-term play for any brand.
(0:00) — Intro
(1:01) — How do I start thinking in memes?
(7:07) — How do memes make millions?
(14:56) — Someone sold their business for $100M by using memes
(19:04) — “Dumb memes, smart threads”
(25:15) — The secrets to growing company social
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023: I make $150k/year creating content... now what?
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) take on four Creator Advice questions from X and the HeyCreator community. Thank you to George, Jay, Nausheena and Michael for your questions!
(0:00) — Intro
(0:38) — George asks, “Now what?”
(7:13) — Jay has a creator’s dream job, but he’s about to start college…
(14:50) — Nausheena asks, “What can I do to make my videos more engaging?”
(17:20) — Michael wants to start a conference, but is unsure how to use content to promote it.
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022: How To Conquer Your Fears as a Creator (with Corey Wilks, Psy.D)
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, we’re running an expert session from the HeyCreator community with Corey Wilks, Psy.D — a psychologist and executive coach.
Corey gives an excellent presentation on The Four Horsemen of Fear before Matt Ragland (@mattragland) joins him on the call to talk creator mindset, switching niches, and overcoming common creator fears.
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(0:00) — Intro
(1:28) — The Four Horsemen of Fear
(21:44) — Why fear comes to us
(23:48) — What if I want to change my niche?
(29:22) — How your values will shape your path
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021: How Selling High-Ticket Offers ACTUALLY Works in 2024 (with John Meese)
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) is joined by John Meese to walk through his Serve Call framework from his new book, Serve to Sell.
Selling high-ticket offers (like 1-1 coaching, cohort courses or mastermind memberships) can feel like a numbers game — hopping on one sales call after another in hopes of landing a yes.
What John teaches is a reframe for these calls. You’re not selling, you’re serving.
Grab a copy of Serve to Sell here (or click this link and get it for free!)
(0:00) — Intro
(2:45) — Real-life examples of the Serve To Sell framework
(12:30) — What do you call a sales call where you don’t get the sale?
(19:54) — The Six R’s of a Serve Call
(40:50) — Creator Advice with John Meese
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020: A Masterclass on Video Presence & Production (with Cam Houser)
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In today’s episode, we’re running a stellar presentation Cam Houser (@cahouser) gave in our HeyCreator community about all things video.
You’ll learn about what it takes to get comfortable on video, small ways you can improve production, how to come up with better video ideas, and even joins Matt (@mattragland) for another edition of Creator Advice.
(0:00) — Today’s episode
(1:44) — Cam’s introduction
(10:05) — How do I become confident on-camera?
(22:40) — Cam’s ALF Framework for video production
(29:24) — How do I get content ideas?
(39:22) — Creator Advice with Cam
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019: The Fastest Ways To $10,000/Month as a Creator
In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) walk through the fastest ways to make $10,000/month as a creator. The episode is split into three different sections — Newsletters, Coaching, and Courses.
(0:00) — Intro
(1:15) — What’s the fastest way to make $10,000/month with a newsletter?
(9:15) — What’s the fastest way to make $10,000/month with a coaching offer?
(18:02) — What’s the fastest way to make $10,000/month with online courses?
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018: The 10 Books EVERY Creator Needs To Read
In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) talks through the 10 books every creator must read, split up into three categories — Mindset, Business, and Process.
Later, Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) joins for the first edition of Creator Advice — our new segment where we answer questions from our community, place ourselves in their situations, and work to solve their problems.
(0:00) — Intro
(1:30) — The War of Art, by Steven Pressfield
(2:45) — The Pathless Path, by Paul Millerd
(4:13) — Bird by Bird, by Anne Lamott
(5:48) — Perennial Seller, by Ryan Holiday
(6:32) — Obviously Awesome, by April Dunford
(7:11) — Dotcom Secrets, by Russell Brunson
(8:18) — $100M Leads, by Alex Hormozi
(9:20) — The Art and Business of Online Writing, by Nicolas Cole
(10:09) — Free Time, by Jenny Blake
(11:23) — Building a Second Brain, by Tiago Forte
(14:42) — Creator Advice!
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017: The Secret Behind The World's Biggest Online Communities
In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) interviewed Gina Bianchini (Co-founder and CEO of Mighty Networks) and Jordan Mix (Partner at Late Checkout) LIVE in-person for a conversation about community design.
How do the most successful community builders do it? What makes their communities thrive without their direct involvement?
Those questions & more answered in today's episode!
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016: Two Income Streams You're Not Thinking About (with Terry Rice)
How do you create content for your favorite brands and make the big bucks?
You already can — but not in the ways you think.
You’re probably leaving money on the table. After today’s episode you’ll ask yourself, “Why didn’t I think of that?”
Don’t worry, it’s not too late. Terry Rice, our Director of Growth & Partnerships at HeyCreator, is here to talk through two income streams creators often overlook.
(0:00) — Intro
(2:20) — What is a brand partnership?
(6:19) — How Matt could work with Yeti
(10:43) — Brands aren’t always looking for revenue in a partnership
(17:17) — Licensing your content? How?
(21:46) — How a creator is licensing their Urban Chicken Coop course
(25:13) — Terry coaches Matt on licensing HeyCreator
(29:04) — How creators can get started with brand partnerships & licensing
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015: Build A Life You Don't Need A Vacation From (with Khe Hy)
How do you build a life you don’t need a vacation from?
That’s why we become creators, right? To skip the 9-5, work for ourselves, help others, and live our dream?
To answer the question, Matt interviewed long-time friend and HeyCreator Summit speaker Khe Hy — the perfect person to answer this question, because he walked away from a $2 million salary on Wall Street for a life of surfing, family, entrepreneurship and creating.
As you’ll hear, Khe optimizes his life for ALIVENESS and drops gems throughout this fun & insightful conversation.
(0:00) — Intro
(1:00) — Pivoting away from what doesn't serve you
(4:40) — Optimizing for aliveness
(9:49) — Why you need to experiment
(17:46) — The death of the follower
(27:58) — Everyone wants to be the noun, nobody wants to do the verb
(33:23) — How much Khe made on Wall Street vs. becoming a creator
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014: If You Want To Sell More Courses In 2024, Do This! (with Billy Broas)
You want to sell more courses. Billy Broas is an expert in course launch marketing.
If you watch today’s episode with Billy, you’ll be able to sell more courses.
Therefore, you NEED to watch this episode.
Today’s conversation is all about marketing arguments, and how you can use them (like we did above) to write killer copy for your landing pages and use psychology to sell more courses.
Matt interviewed Billy for an expert teaching session in the HeyCreator community — and it was so good, we HAD to use it for the show. Let us know what you think!
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013: How To Price Your Digital Products & Services
“What should I charge?”
Every creator asks this question. Don’t worry, we’ve got you!
In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) walk through the Value Ladder framework, discussing how you can scale the same offer up and down the ladder to different price points and levels of involvement.
(0:00) — Intro
(1:00) — How should we think about pricing?
(2:55) — Where to start on the Value Ladder (VIP)
(9:50) — Going down the ladder (High)
(13:53) — The worst place to be (Mid)
(20:03) — Do not price at this number
(28:15) — The low-end of the Value Ladder (Impulse + Free)
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012: How Successful Creators Think (With Amanda Goetz)
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) interviews Amanda Goetz (@AmandaMGoetz) LIVE and in-person about her role as a fractional CMO, along with how she thinks about her content, community, and creator habits.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside
(1:14) — Why take a fractional CMO role?
(9:49) — Are other creators your competitors?
(15:21) — How do you think about community?
(20:48) — What are the habits of successful creators?
(26:54) — Parenting as a creator
(32:09) — The differences between creating and public speaking
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011: How To Launch a Profitable Newsletter In 2024 (Step-By-Step Guide)
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Everything you need to know about launching, writing and growing an email newsletter is in today’s episode.
Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) go through the step-by-step process of launching a profitable newsletter. No fluff. From opening up a ConvertKit account through making thousands of dollars per month, each step is outlined below.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside
(4:10) — How do you set up a landing page? Check out Matt and Tim’s landing pages.
(14:05) — How do you incentivize your audience to sign up?
(23:36) — The 3 types of email newsletters to write
(37:25) — How do you monetize your newsletter?
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010: Alexis Teichmiller on Career, Community, and Creator Journey
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Alexis Teichmiller jam on leaving the corporate world to become a creator, along with the move forward into a corporate role again.
Alexis is the Senior Brand Partnerships Manager at Circle — the platform we use to run the HeyCreator Community — so they also discuss different community business models for creators, along with the best ways to create signature gatherings for your audience.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside
(4:08) — Matt & Alexis working together at ConvertKit
(11:59) — Romanticizing the leap from W2 employee to full-time creator
(16:18) — From full-time creator to W2 employee
(26:07) — Different types of community business models
(32:23) — How to create signature gatherings in your community
(42:03) — How to set yourself up for sustainability as a creator
(48:36) — Where each platform fits in the audience funnel
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009: What Creators Get Wrong About Email Newsletters
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You know you need to be writing an email newsletter. It’s the hot thing to do.
But most creators still don’t understand WHY email newsletters are such an incredible channel for your business. There’s so many aspects of a newsletter that creators simply get wrong about their newsletter.
Today, we’re going full mythbuster — debunking common misconceptions creators have around sending a newsletter.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside
(2:53) — The elevator pitch for newsletters
(8:42) — What creators underestimate about newsletter perspective
(13:28) — A misconception about newsletter replies
(17:02) — The math behind a $100k+ product launch using newsletter promotions only (absolute gold here)
(27:56) — What you’re getting wrong about launching a newsletter
(31:55) — The biggest issue with newsletter writing “quality”
(40:47) — Ranking what’s actually important about newsletters
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008: Cody & Cole Hock on Running A Creator Business That Does Everything
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) interview Cody (@Cody_Hock) & Cole Hock (@UpNorthCole). These two brothers manage entertainment creators, but we wanted to talk about Enjoy Basketball — the media and lifestyle company they founded with one of the biggest sports creators on the internet, Kenny Beecham.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside
(1:45) — About today’s show
(2:53) — “Cold emailing is my favorite thing to do.”
(10:21) — What goes into a great cold email?
(15:38) — Why choose Kenny as the face of Enjoy Basketball?
(18:18) — The first channel that made sense for their business
(24:29) — How EB pulls almost every lever a creator business can pull
(28:29) — Why they partnered with ESPN & Omaha Productions
(35:54) — How physical products create serendipity
(38:48) — The value of in-person community building for creators
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007: Best Advice for New Creators
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) give out their best advice for new creators. Tim lays out the lessons young creators need to learn in order to grow, while Matt speaks to established professionals looking to become side-hustle creators.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside
(6:06) — Tim: Can you get past your immediate circle?
(12:25) — Matt: Pick one topic, one platform, for one audience
(16:40) — Tim: Don’t be an expert or idol when you aren’t
(22:43) — Matt: Are you making content for fun, or are you building a business?
(27:30) — Tim: Real artists don’t starve
(30:51) — Matt: What long-term project can you build alongside your content?
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006: Nat Eliason on What It Actually Takes To Be a Creator
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Nat Eliason (@nateliason) jam about what it actually takes to be a creator. Topics include Nat’s take on niching down, the main ways creators become replaceable, choosing between money and passion, why consistency alone isn’t enough, and much more.
(3:18) — Nat’s article Be Yourself, Not a Niche
(7:23) — The #1 way creators fail
(16:10) — Nat’s article When the Money’s Just Too Damn Good
(25:28) — Do you care enough to make your content great?
(32:25) — The illusion that success comes quickly as a creator
(40:17) — Balancing ambition, productivity, and parenting
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005: How Creators Can Get Equity In Their Favorite Companies
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) discuss equity for creators — more specifically, how and why creators should think about owning pieces of others’ businesses.
Stories include MKBHD’s deal with Ridge, the launch of Authors Equity, Blenders X Coach Prime, Pop Daddy Snacks and more.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside
(1:45) — Rundown of today’s show
(2:40) — MKBHD’s deal with Ridge
(10:48) — Authors Equity, backed by Tim Ferriss, James Clear and Louise Penny
(16:31) — James Clear’s new app, Atoms
(20:41) — The two ways creators can get equity in businesses
(21:41) — How John Barchard negotiated a deal to own part of an English soccer club in exchange for content
(25:45) — How Pop Daddy Snacks scaled their business by becoming a creator
(29:19) — How Blenders landed Deion Sanders to be their flagship “creator”
(36:33) — The creator skills you have are enough to own someone else’s business
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004: We Didn't Want To Record This Episode
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) push through initial feelings of not wanting to record. The conversation evolves into how creators can make the most of their limited time — both in what they spend their time on and the quality of what they create.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside
(1:43) — Rundown of today’s show
(2:45) — Doing the work when you don’t feel like it
(7:45) — Managing capacity when you have limited time to create
(20:11) — Managing quality when you have limited time to create
(26:48) — How consistent writers can succeed on YouTube with little time
(30:32) — Are you prioritizing production value quality or message quality?
(36:45) — The middle is not where you want to be
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003: The Real Reason To Niche Down + Justin Welsh on Building Your Creator Business
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) talk about the value of niching down as a creator and what it can do for your business.
After, we’re sharing the highlights from Justin Welsh’s (@thejustinwelsh) session at the HeyCreator Summit. Justin dives deep on why creators need to focus on outcomes, being unique, and defining their voice.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside.fm
(1:43) — Rundown of today’s show
(4:39) — Become someone other people recommend
(10:10) — Being specific allows you to be broad
(19:30) — Justin Welsh from HeyCreator Summit 2024
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002: Common Ways Creators Overthink, Mount Rushmore of Influential Content
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In today’s episode of The HeyCreator Show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) center in on the common ways creators overthink their work — highlighting a clip from Darrell Vesterfelt (@dvest) in which he talked about the importance of picking one niche to build your content and business around.
After, Matt & Tim reveal their Mount Rushmore of Content That Inspired Us — the books, movies, frameworks and pieces of content that has resonated on their creator journey.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside.fm
(3:40) — Darrell Vesterfelt on picking a focused niche for your creator business
(9:10) — Common ways creators overthink their work
(32:40) — Mount Rushmore of Content That Inspired Us

001: Starting Something New, Mount Rushmore of Creators Who Inspired Us
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In the first official episode of the HeyCreator show, Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) talk about facing the challenges of starting a new creative project. Then, the team goes deep into their past, revealing their Mount Rushmore of Creators Who Inspired Us.
(0:00) — Presented by Riverside.fm
(1:45) — Rundown of today’s show
(2:26) — Starting something new as a creator
(10:22) — Why reps are so important early in a creative project
(17:35) — Mount Rushmore of Creators Who Inspired Us

Welcome to the HeyCreator Show!
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On this week’s episode, Tim Stoddart (@timstodz) talks about the changes coming to The Copyblogger Podcast and introduces Matt Ragland (@mattragland) and Tim Forkin (@timforkindotcom) as the new hosts of The HeyCreator Show.
The group discuss the change, touch base on upcoming creator trends, and paint a picture for how the show will sound moving forward.
(00:00) — Intro (00:41) — Tim & Matt talk about the show changes (11:21) — Upcoming creator trends we're seeing (15:56) — Separating personal brand and business (22:58) — What will the HeyCreator Show be?

Tim Stoddart & Ethan Brooks: The Most Influential Writer You’ve Never Heard Of
On this week’s episode, Tim Stoddart (@timstodz) and Ethan Brooks (@damn_ethan) talk about John Milius, the writer behind many of the most famous action movies of our generation. They explore the ideas of fame, cancel culture, and writing for the masses.
Cool Stuff Mentioned In The Show
- The pro’s and con’s of watching your own content as a creator
- Arnold Schwarzenegger’s autobiography, Total Recall
- John Milius, the most influential writer you’ve never heard of
- BETA Camp: The entrepreneurial summer camp for high school kids
- Antifragile: Things That Gain From Disorder
- Mike Roe’s belief: “Don’t follow your passion, but bring it with you”
- How to rediscover your passion for opportunities in your life
- Tactics for defining what you want out of your life long term
- Why people always get exactly what they want
- You have goals, even if you don't realize what they are
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Tim Stoddart & Ethan Brooks: How to Build an Email List Without Paid Marketing
On this week's throwback episode, @timstodz and @damn_ethan talk about an interesting Twitter thread that was written and published by Alex Garcia. Both Tim and Ethan had some really interesting insights to this thread, and they added as much value as possible to teach you how to build an email list and grow your audience without breaking the bank.
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