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By Emily Abbate


360. A Lesson In Confidence: How To Own Your Worth, Embrace Being A Beginner & Tell A Good Story With Lauren Nemeroff
When I met Lauren three years ago, she was on an entirely different career path. Fast forward to today: She owns her own creative agency, Flow State Creative, and is the brains behind some of the most eye-catching, thoughtful campaigns behind your favorite athletic brands.
This week, I'm stoked to be sitting down with one with Laur, whose become one of my dearest friends, to talk about what it's like to not only be a female photographer and entrepreneur within sport, but the hurdles that she's faced in building her dream career. Plus: How to manage anxiety, develop a healthy routine on-the-road, and her best-practice advice for anyone who's struggling with owning their greatness and building their confidence.
IN THIS EPISODE
(5:00) Lauren talks about feeling like she’s hanging on by a thread with a busy season of work
(8:05) Lauren shares how she got into photography and leaving an in-house job in marketing, moving to New York in fall 2022
(13:15) What did it look like to get started founding her own creative agency for sports and fitness
(15:12) Emily and Lauren talk about finances when starting a business and being a gig worker, shoutout Money With Katie
(17:30) The biggest challenge Lauren deals with in the infancy of her agency
(20:20) One of the things that surprised Lauren when she first got into sports photography
(22:24) How do you take photos that tell a compelling story?
(28:00) Talking about the beauty of being a beginner
(28:58) How Lauren finds the gratitude in her day-to-day
(37:00) How to be kind but firm in business
(37:32) The importance of asking yourself “what’s my goal here?” before any conversation
(44:45) What Lauren is really excited about right now that has nothing to do with work
(45:46) Lauren talks about her very fast-paced travel schedule for the next month
(49:00) How to find consistency with your wellness practices during travel
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Go After A Goal That Scares You, Trust Me
Talking about last weekend's After Dark half-marathon, and answering a listener question about how to home in on your why.
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359. Becoming Your Best Self: How To Write Your Own Blueprint, Trust Your Gut & Meet The Moment With Coach Diljeet Taylor
There’s something beyond special about coach Diljeet Taylor; as the head of BYU’s women’s track and field program, she’s made a massive impact on young women. But Coach Taylor’s leadership goes well beyond the BYU campus, as a leader for Nike’s Swoosh TC in Utah and a figurehead for women in sport.
In today’s episode, she talks about the difficult decisions she had to make as the daughter of Indian immigrants to deviate away from the blueprint that was set out for her. She shares how she garnered the self-belief and courage to carve her own path, leading her to pursue her passion for running and ultimately become one of the most respected coaches in her field. We talk about the importance of “in order to be her you need to see her,” and how she shows up on the days where she doesn’t feel so confident. Plus: What you will and won’t catch her talking to her women about, and how meaningful it was for her to be a part of Nike’s After Dark Tour.
IN THIS EPISODE
(3:15) Why going to Mumbai to cheer on runners as part of Nike’s After Dark series meant so much to her
(4:14) Diljeet talks about the blueprint that was laid out for her as a young Indian girl when no one looked like her
(5:36) Diljeet talks about deviating from the roadmap that was created for her by her parents
(7:10) Diljeet talks about what her purpose is, and how she felt compelled to be involved in track and field
(9:05) Diljeet talks about how she articulated what her dreams were from a young age
(11:27) Diljeet talks about the importance of “seeing her to be her” and the importance of having good role models from a young age
(17:05) Why Diljeet stays at BYU instead of taking on other opportunities
(19:18) What Diljeet wants her legacy to be
(21:04) How Diljeet recharges when she’s not feeling so shiny or bright
(21:38) Why as a coach Diljeet will never tell you she’s exhausted
(27:16) What it was like for Diljeet to be in Paris for the Olympics and how she didn’t think about how it would feel like for her to walk into the stadium.
(31:18) What it’s like for Diljeet to raise two boys
(35:35) How it felt for Diljeet to “fail” last year
(38:50) What’s the biggest lesson Diljeet has learned from running
(39:15) The biggest piece of advice that Diljeet offers to someone who is approaching their own starting line, in and beyond sport.
(40:00) What does it mean for Diljeet to live her purpose
(41:10) Advice that Diljeet would offer her younger self
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Who's Helping You Rally When Things Feel Hard?
A lesson from a tough Wednesday morning workout. Plus: Answering a listener question about what I wish I knew at 27 now that I'm officially the big 3-7.
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358. Everything You Need Is Within You: How To Use Your Breath To Improve Performance & Manage Stress With Kristina Centenari
Fun fact: We breathe approximately 22,000 times per day, and most individuals are only aware of a handful of those breaths. Today, Kristina Centenari — a Tonal and Nike Running coach, as well as breath work facilitator — and I talk about what happens when you take advantage of one of your most important tools, and how becoming more aware of your breath can help you cope with daily stressors and navigate challenge — as well as improve performance.
This episode’s so special to me, not only because KC is a good friend, but also because we talk about another thing that’s so important and under appreciated when It comes to performance: Mindset. Kristina talks us through how we can use our breath to our advantage within sport and stressful situations, and also shares about her backstory as a competitive tennis player. She also gets vulnerable about dealing with disordered eating, and we have this great conversation about what it takes to become a master of your craft.
IN THIS EPISODE
(5:22) Kristina shares about her tennis career through college and how the sport shaped her into who she is today.
(5:48) Kristina talks about being an anxious teenager and the pressure she put on herself as a college athlete
(6:05) What is arrival fallacy?
(10:20) Kristina talks about where she thinks the root of her anxiety stemmed from and talks about the societal pressures on performing at the highest level
(17:10) Kristina talks about what she wishes she knew about breath work when she was younger
(17:32) What’s it mean to regulate your emotions and how does someone begin?
(20:36) Kristina shares when she was first exposed to mindfulness and breath work
(24:32) How breath work makes Kristina feel in real time
(25:00) Kristina shares her crazy goal for after knee surgery to run the New York City Marathon — and how she ultimately snagged a personal best
(29:05) Kristina helps to reframe the difficult components of injury and offers advice to pick yourself back up
(35:00) Where Kristina did her education on breath work
(36:16) We breathe 22,000 times per day, how to curate an optimal environment to breathe better
(39:25) What longer exhales versus inhales do for your nervous system
(45:38) Kristina details a resonance frequency breath and how to do it
(50:55) How to get over the hurdle of starting and combat beginner’s anxiety
(56:30) Why Kristina’s big on considering herself a constant student over an expert
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: The Butterfly Effect Is Crazy Because ...
You've seen everyone sharing videos on the butterfly effect lately on social, right? Talking about how it relates to my life, and answering a listener question about following your intuition.
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357. Championing Women In Sport: How To Take Up Space & Better Support Mothers With Alysia Montaño
Alysia Montaño has never stood down from a challenge. Making waves when she ran the 2014 USATF Championships at 34 weeks pregnant, the activist, mother, and Olympian wants other women to know that they have value exactly as they are. That's the driving force behind her non-profit, For All Mothers, that aims to eliminate the motherhood penalty — the phenomenon by which women face economic, social, and health disadvantages after becoming mothers — through the public lens of sports.
In this week's episode, we talk about how life is for Alysia now that her work is focused own her activism instead of getting after it on the track, she shares how she takes care of herself while juggling motherhood, business, and so much more. Plus: The emotions that come with getting exactly what she deserves after finding out last year that she’s a bronze medalist from the 2012 London Olympics after a competitor was banned for doping.
IN THIS EPISODE
(5:15) Alysia shares what the Childcare So They Can Get Out There grant looks like
(5:46) Why Alysia started For All Mothers+
(9:45) Alysia talks about what it was like for her to make "motherhood visible" running the USATF championships at 8 months pregnant
(15:26) How motherhood has influenced Alysia's perspective on sports and competition as a whole
(20:28) Alysia talks about what it was like to win indoor nationals six months postpartum, navigating contract negotiations
(26:45) How Alysia feels about asking for help and why it's important to her juggling so many roles
(34:22) What are the barriers for childbearing women in sport and how For All Mothers+ is addressing those
(39:52) Why it's important for all women to share their stories
(45:32) The conversations Alysia is having with her three children on how to express their emotions
(45:58) What does success look like for this Olympian?
(51:32) What's Alysia's personal philosophy?
(56:58) What advice would Alysia offer her younger self?
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: You Don't Have To Go It Alone, OK?
Talking about the power of community and how we don't have to be so strong all of the time. Plus: Answering a listener question on Oura Ring versus Whoop.
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356. Owning Your Narrative: How To Navigate Burnout & Adopt A Healthier Inner Dialogue With Liz Beecroft, LCSW
Join Emily as she welcomes back Liz Beecroft, LCSW, for a powerful conversation about the mental and emotional landscape of pursuing a healthier lifestyle. Liz brings her expertise to unpack the common hurdles we face when striving for well-being, offering practical strategies for building resilience, managing expectations, and cultivating a kinder inner dialogue. Emily and Liz offer up insights on the challenges of burnout and struggling with identity, plus how to squash negative self-talk.
IN THIS EPISODE
(6:45) Liz talks about what it was like for her to play sports without the guidance of someone like a sports therapist
(7:06) Liz talks about what it was like for her to grow up with anxiety in a small town
(10:05) How to get to a place where you can be more present when anxiety feels heavy
(11:45) How to identify helpful versus harmful emotions
(16:30) Liz recommends an app called How We Feel
(20:00) How to avoid damaging your relationships by taking ownership over your actions while navigating burnout
(24:18) What the difference is between a sports therapist and performance coach
(35:50) Conversation on identity and how to cope with being a multifaceted person
(38:45) How to reflect on your core values and beliefs to articulate the different parts of your identity
(42:37) What It looks like for Liz to be a solopreneur and own her own practice
(46:55) What Liz struggles with when it comes to what she shares on the Internet
(51:10) What Liz sees when she looks in the mirror and why this question makes her emotional
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: The Harmful Potential Of The Word 'Should'
Just because someone else does something doesn't mean you should. Talking about an impactful conversation I had this week with Liz Plosser of Best Case Scenario. Plus: Answering a listener question on my go-to running warm-up.
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355. Does Your Diet Suck? Building A Better Relationship With Food & Debunking Nutrition Noise With Zoë Rom & Kylee Van Horn, RDN
In this episode, Emily sits down with Zoe Rom and Kylee Van Horn, RDN, the best friend duo behind the Your Diet Sucks podcast. They do a deep dive into debunking diet culture myths and share practical, science-backed tips to fuel your body and boost performance. From breaking down the ideal macronutrient balance to demystifying creatine, hydration hacks, and the lowdown on supplements, Zoe and Kylee bring their signature wit and wisdom to the table. Whether you’re a seasoned athlete or just starting your fitness journey, this conversation’s packed with actionable advice to help you feel your best.
IN THIS EPISODE
(5:36) Why Zoë and Kylee started 'Your Diet Sucks' podcast
(15:15) Kylee talks about her experience working with athletes with eating disorders
(17:00) Emily talks about her history with weight loss and sheds light on her relationship with food
(18:01) Where someone starts with viewing food as fuel
(24:30) Everything a beginner should know about creatine
(30:18) How to take stock on whether or not a supplement is working for you
(38:40) The biggest myths that exist within nutrition
(43:55) An important question Kylee asks all of her clients
(45:30) Kylee breaks down the macronutrient needs for women 21 to 45, and notes that there's a big range of where someone 'should be' depending on your goals
(49:35) Does the protein window of 30- to 60-minutes post-exercise actually make a difference?
(57:30) Kylee breaks down the importance of electrolytes and explains what they are
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: The Gift Of Solitude — If You Choose To See It That Way
Talking about the benefit of getting well-acquainted with self. Plus: Answering a listener question about how to make friends as an adult.
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354. Breaking The Ice: Jessica Campbell On Being The First Female Coach In the NHL, The Importance Of Empathy & Trusting Your Gut
In this episode, Emily sits down with Jessica Campbell, the first female full-time coach in NHL history with the Seattle Kraken. From her childhood skating in a hockey-loving family to breaking barriers in a male-dominated sport, Jessica shares her journey of resilience, grit, and purpose. She opens up about the profound influence of her late brother Josh, the challenges of earning respect as a young female coach, and the weight of carrying the torch for women in hockey. Jessica’s story is a masterclass in overcoming hurdles and staying focused on what matters most.
IN THIS EPISODE
(6:40) How Jessica feels about being the first woman coach in the NHL
(6:59) If Jessica ever thought she could be a hockey coach
(9:28) Jessica talks about what it was like to be a player at the highest level
(13:32) How to figure out how to turn setbacks into positives and use that redirection to your advantage
(15:30) Jessica talks about losing her brother when she was 10, and how her family navigated that devastating loss
(20:21) How she faired playing with the boys through her teenage years, and how she managed the bullying that came with it (one boy even said: "she would be pretty but she shouts like a boy"
(26:49) What characteristics make Jessica a strong coach
(30:40) Jessica talks about how her mom's influence impacted her as a coach
(36:24) Jessica talks about the email she opened in a Las Vegas hotel lobby that changed her life
(40:01) How Jessica hearing "no" after "no" on her career search
(44:50) How Jessica navigates working with older players as a 32-year-old coach
(49:20) How to reframe your perspective when things don't go as planned
(53:49) How Jessica feels being a mentor to young women and girls, and what it's like to see them show up to her games
(57:32) What's next for Jessica and what goals she has on the horizon
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: When The Pain Of Staying The Same Is Too Great
Change can be hard. But it doesn't have to be more difficult than whatever is causing you discomfort in this moment. Plus: Answering a listener question about how to safely (and smartly) incorporate strength training into your regular routine.
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353. How To Define Your Personal Philosophy: Understanding The Mind & Embracing the Path Of Self-Discovery With Performance Psychologist Dr. Michael Gervais
Top athletes. Actors. CEOs. Dr. Michael Gervais is a high performance psychologist who has worked with some of the best to help them master their mind and better their craft. For this replay of my 2021 episode with Dr. Gervais, we're talk about how he got to where he is today. The Finding Mastery podcast host chats with me about how his experience surfing growing up actually lead him to getting more interested in the mind, and the memorable #hurdlemoment that taught him how to navigate hard times and get brave in front of large crowds. He also details how we can decipher our purpose, articulate our philosophy, and separate the two different types of thoughts.
IN THIS EPISODE
(4:03) Dr. Gervais talks about growing up in remote Virginia
(6:20) How surfing brought Dr. Gervais to performance psychology
(11:46) How to be more absorbed in the present here and now
(18:56) The three different parts to purpose and how to decipher these themes
(26:25) How someone "upgrades" and embraces mental training
(33:18) Dr. Gervais talks about how he felt his first time public speaking and how he overcame imposter syndrome
(44:44) Why Dr. Gervais doesn't speak on the big-name athletes he works with
(46:47) How Dr. Gervais got to a place where he's at peace with where he's been and where he's going next
(50:10) Dr. Gervais talks about how to adopt a philosophy to clarify your guiding principles
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Accountability Buddies, #FTW!
I would not have done my run on Thursday if it weren't for Joanie. Giving her some props, and answering a listener question about how to pick up the pace on your next 5K.
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352. Organization Can Be Your Super Power: How To Stay True To Yourself & Ask Smart Questions With Saucony’s Chief Marketing Officer Joy Allen-Altimare
This week I’m sitting down with Joy Allen-Altimare, the Chief Marketing Officer at Saucony. Such an interesting time to have this conversation with everything that’s going on both for the brand as they really are in this fun-to-watch reinvigoration phase, as well as what’s going on here in the U.S. with the tariffs.
Joy talks to me about how being a swimmer growing up in Chattanooga really shaped a big part of her mindset and empowered her to think differently and progressively as a leader. We talk about what it looks like for her to lift up other women both in and out of the office, and what we can expect from Saucony as a brand as we look ahead into the rest of 2025 and 2026. Plus: She also shares her takeaways on the evolution of sports style, and why it’s important to have your own board of directors.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: 2 Simple Strategies To Help Combat Overwhelm
These work for me 99.9% of the time! Plus: Answering a listener question about how I choose the new things on my list to do every week!
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351. An Invisible Illness: Pro Runner Grayson Murphy Opens Up About Her Battle With Crohn's Disease & Finding Confidence In The Mountains
When Grayson Murphy swapped from soccer to running in college, she never anticipated that she'd find such great success. Now a two-time world champion, the Montana-based runner has hard a whirlwind rise to success in sport — but that hasn't come without many hurdles. The most recent: A diagnosis with Crohn's Disease. In this week's episode, she shares how she's coping with the news and how the illness impacts her regularly.
IN THIS EPISODE
(5:07) The importance of grace to Grayson when it comes to her day-to-day
(7:15) The symptoms that Grayson experienced that were indicative of Crohn's disease
(9:36) How Grayson felt when she first learned about Crohn's
(13:38) Grayson shares why she stopped playing soccer
(20:40) What joy looks like for Grayson today
(25:30) Grayson talks about starting her own stationary company, Wild Strides Paper Co.
(28:55) How Grayson has navigated her grief and anger over the past year
(35:53) Grayson talks about how finding early success in running was actually very difficult for her mentally
(41:41) Grayson talks about severe pre-race anxiety, and how she had some pretty difficult intrusive thoughts before competing
(48:10) Grayson talks about what she could see herself doing work-wise in the future
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: A Lesson In Letting Go Of What You Can't Control
A story from last weekend's Cherry Blossom 10-miler. Plus: Answering a listener question on how to get rid of those pre-race jitters.
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350. Your Life's Not On Pause: Tips For Overcoming Injury & Finding Light In Difficult Moments With Content Creator Lydia Keating
No one likes to be on the bench, unable to do the activities that they love because of an injury. This week, I'm chatting with writer, content creator, and runner Lydia Keating about injury. We swap stories about how injuries have impacted our physical and mental health in the past, and she shares how navigating a sacral stress fracture has actually bettered her current mindset. Plus: Tips for embracing recovery time (and how to spend it), and Lydia shares an unconventional take on the looming TikTok ban.
IN THIS EPISODE
(5:15) How is Lydia feeling really right now?
(11:40) Why running is such a big part of Lydia’s life right now
(12:05) What’s changed to help Lydia feel the strongest she’s ever felt as a runner
(15:24) What it was like when Lydia learned that she had a sacral stress fracture
(19:43) Lydia talks about her concern for her financial wellbeing when she got injured
(25:17) How Lydia adapted her routine during injury and what helped her heal
(30:17) How Lydia feels about the “oh you look so healthy” compliment
(39:50) Lydia and Emily talk about feeling uncomfortable in their bodies during injury
(46:20) Sleep's critical role in recovery from injury
(56:40) What’s next for Lydia?
(57:18) When Lydia new that she was in a position to go full-time with content creation
(58:25) How Lydia felt when new of the TikTok ban first came around
(1:00:42) The advice that Lydia would tell herself when she was going through injury, knowing what she knows now
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Can You Free Up Some Space?
This analogy blew my mind; a helpful reframe when it comes to some habits that may or may not be serving us longterm. Plus: Answering a listener question about affiliate linking.
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349. I'm Possible: How To Own Your Leadership Style & Make Difficult Decisions With Brooks Running Chief Marketing Officer Melanie Allen
Last week, Melanie Allen was working on plans for fall 2026. As the Chief Marketing Officer at Brooks Running, she's always thinking three steps (or, at least four seasons) ahead. In this week's episode, she's talking us through how she arrived to this role, and what it’s like to own her power as a leader and make decisions without “a safety net.” Plus: The important lessons she learned from her mother, what it was like to run her first half-marathon, and how she manages to tame negative self-talk.
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(4:54) Melanie talks about her time working at Starbucks and how she was the mastermind behind the PSL marketing boom and making it a chilled offering
(7:40) Melanie talks about the decision to train for her first half-marathon because of her co-workers when her daughter was 5 years old
(18:34) Melanie talks about how it felt to take action once she transitioned into her role at Brooks, and no longer having a safety net to make important decisions
(21:55) Melanie talks about how she makes importance of having grace when making difficult decisions
(26:54) What balance looks like in practice for Melanie, plus takeaways from corporate development programming she did at P+G
(39:15) What it’s like for Melanie to own her mistakes and lead with compassion
(44:04) Melanie talks about what it was like to grow up with a deaf mother, and the lessons that relationship has taught her about tenacity
(48:15) How to move from managing at work to truly leading
(52:10) Some of the best career advice that Melanie has ever received
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Can't We All Be Excited For The Journey, Together?
Food for thought, plus answering a listener question about my tips for navigating tax season as an entrepreneur.
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348. How Dare I Not: Dr. Chelsea Jackson Roberts On How Yoga Changed Her Life & Letting Go Of 'Should'
I could listen to Dr. Chelsea Jackson Roberts talk all day. Welcoming the Peloton instructor — who's celebrating five years teaching on the platform — to the show this week! We're chatting about everything from processing grief through movement and how to show up for yourself when negative self-talk has got you down to better-sleep tips and letting go of "should"ing ourselves.
IN THIS EPISODE
(4:05) What Chelsea’s yoga practice looks like today
(5:42) Chelsea talks about fainting in her first ever hot yoga class
(8:30) Chelsea opens up about losing her college roommate Misty to run violence
(11:20) Chelsea talks about how she persevered with yoga even after a tough first go, and the feelings she got from pain and rage to happiness
(16:40) When Chelsea decided to pursue yoga as a career beyond just a passion
(17:40) Chelsea talks about how coming from Dayton, Ohio influenced her to stick with her practice, admits to not having any 5-year plan with her work
(18:50) She says “If you lead with your purpose in life, something will eventually happen.”
(20:27) Chelsea talks about how her yoga practice helps her in life, with public speaking, grounding her.
(36:00) How Chelsea stays present
(37:24) How Chelsea struggles with her view of what she “should” look like, and gets honest about comparison
(38:25) Chelsea talks about teaching in china as a lululemon ambassador
(39:45) Chelsea talks about the fear she had before starting at Peloton and her struggle with imposter syndrome
(41:20) How do you get out of the “should” spiral, negative self-talk
(43:30) Chelsea confesses her biggest challenge since starting at Peloton five years ago.
(48:05) Chelsea talks about her relationship with sleep since having her son Noble
(54:20) Chelsea talks about the most transformational parts of this career path for her
(56:30) What are Chelsea’s goals now?
(1:00:04) What advice she’d give her younger self
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: The First Step To Getting What You Want
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347. The Mountain Is You: Author Brianna Wiest On The Power Of Self-Belief & Her Journey To Topping Best Seller Lists
Some amazing things can happen when you believe in yourself, and that's what Brianna Wiest — author of the new book The Life That's Waiting — is here to talk about today. Brianna's perspective on personal betterment and the power of self-belief is so valuable, providing helpful tips in this week's episode on how to conquer the hurdle of self-doubt and embrace your flaws to get to the next level. Plus: Brianna talks about how writing saved her life, the biggest challenges about working with a smaller publishing company, and how it feels to share her inner-most thoughts and work with millions.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: When All You've Got Is 50%, Give 100% Of That
When things feel heavy, there's an opportunity there to do the best you can considering the circumstances. Talking about how to recharge your own battery today, plus answering a listener question about my favorite tights and shorts to run in.
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346. The Greatness Equation: 4x Olympian Katie Ledecky Shares Her Recipe For Gold, Goal Setting Tactics & Feelings On Inspiring The Next Generation
Katie Ledecky, welcome to Hurdle. (That's a sentence I've wanted to write for 7+ years now.) To be able to have this conversation during Women’s History Month, coming out shortly after International Women's Day, is a dream come true. In today's episode, Ledecky brings us back: Talking about her first-ever goals in swimming and how she got into the sport in the first place. The 4-time Olympian shares her perspective on the work that’s been required of her to get to where she is today, spending 20+ hours in the water a week not to mention time out of the pool. Plus: Family impact, what it’s like to drop into a pool and swim during open swim for an Olympian, and what balance looks like. She also touches on what it means for her to be a role model, and how that got a lot more meaningful when she joined Athleta's Power of She collective.
IN THIS EPISODE
(6:42) How does Katie Ledecky befriend pain
(9:55) Katie talks about how she feels about what she’s achieved in her 22-year career in sport
(10:55) What is Katie Ledecky’s why in swimming
(22:50) How Katie Ledecky fuels to train and perform
(22:51) How much sleep does Katie Ledecky get and what she does when she doesn’t get as much as she’d like
(25:00) What it was like for Katie to follow in her brothers footsteps in the pool
(25:28) Katie Ledecky confesses she didn’t get her drivers license until college
(35:52) What Katie Ledecky’s relationship is with goal setting and how that has evolved since she started swimming
(37:00) What are Katie Ledecky’s current goals
(39:15) How does Katie Ledecky reframe negative self talk
(42:40) How Katie Ledecky shifted her mindset after she got to a point where she realized that she can’t break a world record every single race
(44:21) What does self talk look like for Katie Ledecky
(52:00) Katie talks about the most difficult hurdle of her professional career
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: How To Trust Your Gut & Make Difficult Decisions
This week's 5-MINUTE FRIDAY covers joy and the tough stuff. Offering up a few actionable tips that can help you through making your next difficult decision, hinging on a listener question that came in this week.
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345. Learning True Balance: Jess McClain On Finding The Fun In Running & The Power Of The Reframe
Welcoming Jess McClain to the show! Jess is a pro runner for Brooks, and she made big waves last year when she came in fourth in both the Olympic Marathon Trials and the 10K at the Olympic Track and Field Trials. In this week's episode, she talks so beautifully about rediscovering the fun in running by involving herself in other activities and pursuits. Jess shares what it’s like to work full-time for a non-profit while also following her passions within sport, and she gives some really beautiful advice on the importance of listening to your body.
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IN THIS EPISODE
(8:00) How pressure got the best of Jess early in her career.
(10:13) Jess reflects on her 20+ years of running.
(12:50) How Jess finds the joy on the days that don’t feel so exciting and easy.
(14:55) Jess talks about walking away from professional running for a bit during the pandemic.
(18:00) How Jess found the fun in running again.
(20:18) Jess shares what it was like to run her first marathon.
(24:09) Jess talks about her new coach David Roche.
(39:15) What changed for Jess McClain in 2023 that unlocked her potential in 2024.
(42:47) How Jess felt about coming in fourth at the Marathon Olympic Trials.
(44:30) How Jess re-imagined her relationship with failure.
(50:10) How Jess felt about flying to the Olympics in Paris as an alternate and not racing.
(55:49) What Jess sees when she looks in the mirror.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: A Love Letter To Bagels & My Younger Self
Kind of weird that this fixation meal is actually me giving my younger self a hug? Maybe? Anyone else? Also: Answering a listener question on how long it took for me to start running races once I picked up running.
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344. Taking Back Control: Cross Country Skier Jessie Diggins Talks Befriending Pain, Conquering Her Eating Disorder & Embracing Imperfection
Jessie Diggins knows that perfection isn’t reality. But as the most decorated cross country skier in U.S. history, her record’s pretty close. In this week’s episode of Hurdle, Emily sits down with the 3-time Olympic medalist to talk about her journey to the top of her sport, what it’s like to embrace the pressure of competition and push close to her physical breaking point (blurry vision and all). She also gets candid about her experience with an eating disorder, including a relapse in 2024, and what support looks like for her in her day to day. Plus: How she feels with under a year left until the Winter Olympics, and what it’s like training regularly in Italy leading up to World Championships after her recent World Cup win.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Are You Letting The Small Details Keep You From Starting?
The starting line is right in front of you, but are you standing in your own way? Talking about how this regularly plays out, and answering a listener question about how to nail a pull-up (or three).
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343. How To Practice Self-Love: The Power Of Affirmations & Benefits Of Positive Self-Talk With Dr. Nina Polyné
The way that you talk to yourself (and treat yourself) is important; as you've likely heard before — self-love isn't selfish. Put this one in the love file: Finishing off a couple weeks of loving here on Hurdle with Dr. Nina Polyné, a licensed clinical psychologist. We cover:
- Why is self-love important?
- What are self-love habits?
- Can affirmations be helpful in the adoption of a positive self-love practice?
- Can you have a positive association with self but still experience negative self-talk? How do you shake that?
- What is self celebration and why is it important?
- How to rid yourself of the shame that comes with prioritizing self
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: What Do You Love About Yourself?
It's not lame to answer this question, btw. I love Valentine's Day, and not because I'm in love with someone else. Talking about what this day looks like for me, and answering a listener question about navigating rest days.
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342. How To Love Better: On Finding Grace, Healing & Motivation In Your Relationships With Diego 'Yung Pueblo' Perez
With Valentine's Day on the horizon, the podcast this week is shifting to talk about love. Self-love, loving others, and all type of relationships. Love is the foundation that shapes our perspective, and regardless of your marital status — love can impact all aspects of your health and wellbeing.
Chatting on this today withThe New York Timesbestselling author Diego Perez, known to his 4+ million followers by the name Yung Pueblo. Diego shares with me the lessons he's learned within his marriage, highlights the red and green flags of dating, and his takeaways from writing his new book — out next month,How to Love Better.
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(7:50) Diego Perez talks about the importance of not postponing your own happiness because you’re waiting for a partner
(13:15) How to grow together within a relationship, while pursuing different paths for personal growth
(17:44) How to train and develop happiness
(18:30) Diego Perez talks about how to fight against the victim mindset
(20:14) How to set yourself up for tiny victories to achieve momentum
(24:12) When to apologize versus when to address a lack of communication within a relationship
(24:52) What's an emotional temperature check?
(34:50) How to navigate change and growth of the individual within the relationship
(42:30) How to figure out when friendships are working for you versus hurting you
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: The Best Email You Could Ever Send
I did something earlier this week that made me really proud. Plus: Asking a favor of all of you, and answering a listener question about how to spend time on your own when it feels mega uncomfortable.
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341. How To Get Stronger: CrossFit Champion Laura Horvath On Learning New Skills, Navigating Self-Talk & Fueling For Success
Imagine being referred to as "The Fittest Woman On Earth" — that's Laura Horvath's reality. The 2023 champion of the CrossFit Games joins Hurdle this week for a conversation about strength, body image, and nutrition. She covers how she trains to embrace the different phases of her cycle, what has changed (or rather, what hasn't) since she came out on top, and why her early days of climbing lent themselves to excelling within sport when her brother introduced her to it in 2016.
IN THIS EPISODE
(6:00) Why Laura loved climbing
(7:00) The perks to being strong for Laura in her everyday life
(8:15) How climbing lended itself to a transition into CrossFit
(9:50) Laura Horvath's thoughts on the intimidation factor that comes with lifting heavy weights
(12:55) Laura Horvath reflects on her beginning days with the sport, and how taking on too much too soon contributed to injury
(14:50) How Laura Horvath prioritizes her sleep, and why she likes wearing the Oura Ring
(15:07) The recovery tools Laura Horvath uses most often
(18:00) Laura Horvath talks about her cycle and how pays attention to it and her period to train to her advantage
(19:08) What does balance look like for Laura Horvath
(27:00) How Laura Horvath looks as food as fuel
(27:43) Laura Horvath talks about her relationship with food and how it's evolved since she was climbing, when the assumption that was less better
(33:40) How Laura Horvath feels about her social media presence
(36:30) What changed in Laura Horvath's life after winning the CrossFit Games
(39:19) How Laura Horvath feels about the pressure to perform in sport
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Reminder — Your Joy Is Entirely Within Your Control
I've spoken about my one-new-thing-a-week experiment here before, but this week I'm reflecting on just how fortunate we are to take the reigns on our own joy. Plus: Answering a listener question on how to establish a nighttime routine — and what mine consists of.
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340. How To Fuel For Improved Performance: Chef Dan Churchill Talks Protein Needs, Perks Of A Plant-Forward Diet & Smoothie Hacks
Replay! Bringing back this popular episode to the top of the feed today, welcoming my friend Dan Churchill back on the podcast. We first aired this in early 2024 to coincide with the exciting launch of his book Eat Like a Legend: Delicious, Super Easy Recipes to Perform at Your Peak. He’s giving us all the inside knowledge and know-how on how to fuel your body for optimal performance, whatever that may look like for you. We dive into hydration, micro and macronutrients, the importance of plant diversity in your diet, as well as protein sources and smoothie hacks. Dan hits home on the importance of taking care of and fueling yourself first and why it’s worth putting in the work for longevity of your life.
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Dan’s journey to food and performance nutrition education (3:42)
How ‘Eat Like a Legend’ came to be (8:50)
Performing at your peak according to Dan (14:00)
Top 3 things things to focus on when looking to optimize performance (17:01)
Tactical steps toward cutting out refined sugars (22:50)
Dan’s ideal smoothie ingredients and hack for smoothie prep that will last you all week (31:15)
What it means to have a diversity of plants in your diet (36:58)
The importance of hydration and electrolytes when looking to perform at our peak (40:22)
The biggest challenge of cooking at home at why practice is key (47:30)
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Routine Is The Gift That Keeps On Giving
There will always be things that are out of your control. But, this week I'm chatting about the benefits of finding a routine that works for you — and how it can pay off holistically for the rest of your schedule and day. Plus: Answering a listener question about my go-to running sneaker.
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339. Leading With Purpose: Strava's Chief Business Officer Zipporah Allen On Intentionality, Owning Her Mornings & Picking Up Running Later In Life
Zipporah Allen has a big job. Overseeing business and new ventures at Strava, she loves the opportunity to stay curious and travel the world inspiring folks to live their best active lives. For episode 339, we talk abut the how: How she got here, how she finds the time to move despite her busy schedule, and how Strava's working to empower their consumer to live their best active lives. Plus: Best-practice business and leadership advice, how she feels about picking up running in her 40s, and the importance of owning your "no."
IN THIS EPISODE
(3:37) Zip shares what her most recent Strava activity was
(6:00) Zip talks about her work experience before becoming the Chief Business Officer at Strava, specifically time in restaurants at Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and McDonald’s
(8:26) Emily and Zip swap their go-to Taco Bell orders
(9:47) Why learning is so important to Zip in business, and how she firmly believes you can learn from anyone regardless of title
(10:08) Zip talks about moving internationally for work
(12:32) What happens when you’re on a board of directors for a company, what that looks like for Zip, and what she hopes to get out of being an independent board member at a few different private companies
(14:30) Zip shares what it was like for her to start running when she joined the team at Strava in order to better understand the product — and she’s now a two-time marathon
(20:57) What Strava is doing specifically to cater to female-identifying customers, including safety features
(23:00) What self-care looks like for someone who is constantly traveling
(25:48) How to become a morning person
(30:22) Zip gets the invite to join Pastry Run Club in New York
(35:10) Why Zip thinks it’s important never to be the smartest person in the room, often telling her team: “I reserve the right to get smarter and take in new information and change my mind.”
(36:06) What Zip’s role as a mom has taught her about being a leader
(38:00) Why it’s important to respond instead of react
(42:05) Why it’s important to create the conditions as a leader to empower your employees to bring their full expertise to the table
(55:55) What Zip sees when she looks in the mirror.
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Don't Let Your Fear Of Failure Prevent You From Trying
Failing is scary. Heck, no one works hard for something not to go as they'd hoped. However, failure is integral in leveling up in every aspect of life, and the people that you're admiring and following right now? Trust me, they've failed, too. Talking about how to get over the fear today, and answering a listener question about goal setting best-practices.
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338. Tips For a Fresh Start In the New Year: Embracing 2025, Using Affirmations To Your Advantage & the Perks Of Quitting With Yasmine Cheyenne
There’s a lot of pressure to start over at the beginning of a new year. Days after “Quitter’s Day,” I’m sitting down with self-care expert and the newest addition to the Start Today family, Yasmine Cheyenne. We’re talking about everything from how to meet yourself with grace during moments of transition and embracing the good in your routine to how to “break the matrix” and how to answer the question “what’s best for me?” Without shame or guilt.
IN THIS EPISODE
(3:50) What is “Start Today” and Yasmine’s role in the app
(11:05) How to choose “doing the work” and choosing yourself every day
(14:45) A helpful breathwork meditation to get more grounded and present
(17:50) Why presence is the most important thing and how to become ~more~ present in your day-to-day
(20:00) How your friends can help you with your self-reflection process
(32:15) Where to begin with goal setting
(36:15) Why is it important to know what your values are before you set goals
(44:50) How can you move forward from friendships and relationships that are no longer serving you
(1:05:09) Why we’ve got to get away from the societal idea that weddings, babies, and engagements are the only events worth celebrating
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5-MINUTE FRIDAY: Please Don't Squash Your Feelings
Things are tough right now. My heart goes out to so many of those in the Hurdle community and beyond impacted by the Los Angeles fires. In today's episode, I'm talking about why it's important not to breeze past trauma — and the importance of feeling your feelings. Plus: Answering a listener question about how to go after your goals when you lose sight of your why.
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337. Finding The Joy: 2X Olympian Elise Cranny Talks Working On Her Relationship With Running, Who's at Her 'Table,' & The Importance Of Trusting Your Gut
I'm in awe of Elise Cranny. After a difficult year filled with unexpected challenges like injury and relocation, she's emerged more passionate about sport and sure of herself than ever. In today's episode, which we recorded in Austin this past December, Elise opens up about where she's at and how she's landed on a more empowered mindset headed into 2025. Plus: How she feels about her recent (ish) coaching change, how she slows down and identifies what works for her, and learning from the hurdles as they arise.
IN THIS EPISODE
(3:58) Feedback on the upcoming Nike Vomero 18
(11:35) How is Elise doing now?
(12:45) Elise talks about her year, joining Team Boss, leaving group training, then pick up a new coach and work on her relationship with running
(15:07) What was going on for her emotionally during this period of transition, the importance of family
(24:46) What it was like in the Olympic village in Paris
(25:50) How Elise felt after running her Olympic final 5K
(28:12) Who is at Elise’s “table” - the people who she feels like have her best interest in mind
(33:55) What Elise’s goal setting process looks like
(37:50) What she wants to focus on in 2025 and how she uses her curiosity to her advantage
(40:05) Emily and Elise talk “I am” statements
(43:51) What does “gritty” mean to Elise
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336. TURNING THE PAGE: Emily's 'Great' Year In Review, Biggest Learnings From 2024 & Takeaways From The 'Bet On Yourself' Era
Finishing off this week's Turning the Page series with a special Saturday episode reflecting on the year that was. From the Bet On Yourself Era including a trip to the Paris Olympics to running two marathons in Tokyo and New York, Emily catches you up on the highlights from her year, what she hopes will shift in 2025, and reveals her biggest lessons from the past 365.
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335. TURNING THE PAGE: Heptathlete Taliyah Brooks Talks The Power Of The Reframe, Using Faith To Fuel Her Fire & Her First Olympics
There is nothing more powerful than a woman with a goal, and from a young age today's guest Taliyah Brooks had a big one — to get to the Olympics. For episode 335, she's talking about how she rose through challenge after not making it to the 2021 Olympics to show up big in Paris last summer. Plus: What it's like to train for such a complicated event with multiple modalities, what she's feeling most excited about going into 2025, and what exactly she sees when she looks in the mirror.
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334. TURNING THE PAGE: Nikki Ogunnaike On Her First Year As The Editor in Chief Of ‘Marie Claire’, Owning Your ‘No’ & Letting Go Of Guilt
It’s always a good time in the studio when Nikki Ogunnaike comes in to chat. This second installment of the TURNING THE PAGE SERIES is full of great takeaways, as Nikki reflects on her first full year as an editor in chief, what she’s looking forward to most in 2025, and the most beneficial habit she picked up over the last year.
(5:35) How it felt for Nikki to actually take time off this year.
(10:18) Stop, Start, Keep doing in 2025
(14:45) Nikki’s talks about how Hillary Kerr has helped her step into her power as an EIC
(17:21) How to approach looking for a mentor
(26:22) How to get honest with yourself with where you’re at
(29:15) How Nikki chooses her guests for ‘Nice Talk’
(29:55) What Nikki thinks about Brynn Whitfield
(30:15) Why ‘flexibility’ is Nikki’s word for 2025
(39:15) Nikki’s SMART goal for the new year
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