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351: Mio A. revisits

Live IFSFeb 16, 2024

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392: Mio A. revisits
Jun 02, 202401:15:15
391: ā«ļø Clare A. revisits

391: ā«ļø Clare A. revisits

šŸ”ø Sit down, shut up, hold on!
2ļøāƒ£Pod boppins. Weā€™re allowed to have concerns?

šŸŽ“ What I'd like to do differently:

Must remember to stretch before calls w Clare! We haven't done IFS in ~6 months, so when "This way, not that way" parts show up, I donā€™t feel like I have much room to challenge them. But I do wonder ā€œhow much of this part's role is diversionary?ā€ Is the future/giggling just a more pleasant place to be?

I wonder what percentage of journeyers have this kind of instant, visual access to these realms. 5? Itā€™s hard for me to know how to guide other than ā€œI'll hang out with you while you travelā€

2ļøāƒ£ I could have worded it better, but my confidence in her and this process is strong. Maybe I was talking to my own skeptical partsā€¦ theyā€™re saying ā€œwhereā€™s the sadness, whereā€™s the hurt, are we having too much fun, are we being distracted?ā€ ā€¦ maybe. But the only way out is through. Meaning, evn if thatā€™s the case, weā€™ll find out only by continuing to notice and engage from where we are.

Some of that confidence comes from knowing that Clare's ā€œpeople pleaserā€ parts arenā€™t extreme. Sheā€™s not doing this for me! Her ā€œpersonal developmentā€ parts work hard, but sheā€™s not beating down my door to do this work.


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May 31, 202401:46:02
390: Riben A. - first call
May 29, 202401:11:38
389: ā«ļø Onyx A. revisits
May 27, 202402:20:09
386: Ian A. revisits
May 25, 202401:07:31
385:ā«ļø Bee A. revisits
May 23, 202402:00:53
384: Justine A. revisits
May 21, 202459:53
382: Genie A. revisits
May 19, 202401:25:31
387: Christine A. revisits
May 17, 202401:14:32
383: ā«ļø Mimi A. - first call
May 15, 202402:31:40
381: ā«ļø Mio A. revisits

381: ā«ļø Mio A. revisits

šŸ”ø The cost of youthfulness; making sense of ā€œYouā€™re uglyā€
2ļøāƒ£ The precious house, where the little girl was almost strangled to death.

šŸ”¹ Parts:

  • P Everything is my fault, im a monster, im selfish.
  • P Afraid of change, the new relationship, having someone say he loves me
  • P ā€I'm able to make somebody feel good??ā€ Afraid I will soar too high
  • P/E? Iā€™ll go under if someone leaves (and if i'm not ugly).
  • E knotted up, fear stricken, awaiting ultimate punishment. Nothing stays, nothing to hold on to, everything leaves. Maybe 5-8

2ļøāƒ£

  • Ice cold exclusion, utter despair and pain
  • Panic: ā€œif he sees behind the mask, sees how ugly I am, then he will leave me tooā€
  • E: 6, 7, 8 - grandma disappearing is all my fault. Taking on gaurdian's shame. Have to put on a mask to show the world What a good granddaughter I am, Grandad and mom never talked to me about it. Nasty kettle. Bottomless guilt. Mom will do anything to tame that strong will. Wants a desert, place without walls, nothing hard, without judgement, can sink into sand.

šŸŽ“ What I'd like to do differently:

Donā€™t know. Maybe not much. Felt bad ending the call where we did but it didnā€™t seem too disruptive. Not sure how to handle when a part says ā€œdonā€™t leaveā€ and I'm like ā€œok time to goā€. Iā€™ll try to get Mio in again soon, but I'm also curious how she handles it on her own.

2ļøāƒ£

Kept my foot on the gas the whole time; not stopping to check with every protector. Felt right.


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May 10, 202402:23:40
380: Theresa A. revisits
May 08, 202401:19:14
379: ā«ļø Olivia A. revisits

379: ā«ļø Olivia A. revisits

šŸ”ø 1ļøāƒ£ Beyond committed. The art and science of figuring out your entire self

2ļøāƒ£ Deep down bad parts. Itā€™s crazy the way kids are treated.
šŸ“Œ 1ļøāƒ£ Olivia Followed up: i will say-- i actually wish i talked more about this on the pod but the mdma aftermath isn't always a treat, there are actually some big feelings of turmoil afterwards, you kind of feel like your life is a mess for a couple weeks because stuff is hitting you. i felt that way and my friend also felt that way... but the ensuing clarity and breakthroughs are worth it
it's like you're ripped open a bit and then enable to heal
though the healing still requires a good amount of work or at least it did in my case, i found it hard to even do my job for a week, and i was constantly feeling like, how do i figure out this maze of feels?!
james: ā€ØIve not experienced that negative side, but maybe I had less I was needing (or willing) to heal
Olivia: ā€Øi'm definitely willing to believe it's different for everyone
my friend for instance, i dont think she would even say she did a lot of work to get to her breakthrough
she was just a mess for 2 weeks and then had kind of a sudden realization

šŸ”¹ Parts:

  • P: holds tension, clenching chest, hanging on to sense of dread. Needs manager not rush on to new shiney
  • P: manager ā€œif I donā€™t watch this how will I learnā€ a person glued to the screen
  • P: tape playing, carrying the memories. I love my memories!
  • P: managers are bad! Read the IFS book!

šŸŽ“ What I'd like to do differently:

1ļøāƒ£ Do differently? No; whatever got me here, to this place, with this person, makes me glad I did everything the way did.

Cynical part's answer: quit Live IFS, start Live MDMA.

2ļøāƒ£ Itā€™s been 2+ weeks of high stress / high stakes stuff for me. I've been increasingly concerned about the effects on my health, multiple ailments reappearing. Today was *my* do whatever day, finally vacation day. I just lounged around, fed the crows, stretched a lot, ate what & when I wanted, skipped exercise (and that ~hour of call prep I normally do). So this was fitting.

When I start getting sick, my ā€œfigure it outā€ part takes over, researching like mad, making a project out of it, documenting everything, reviewing old notes. But lately I've been working with it more, taking it seriously, and allowing that process to complete. Then I actually arrive at ā€œI've read enough, made enough todos and appts, time for that part to rest. Let's try calm, space, and see what intuition (now more informed) brings.
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May 04, 202402:07:19
378: Christine A. revisits
Apr 25, 202401:47:43
377: Justine A. revisits
Apr 23, 202401:21:04
375: Pro: Alethea Hanna with Alex
Apr 21, 202401:06:43
374: Onyx A. revisits
Apr 19, 202401:20:05
373: Genie A. revisits
Apr 15, 202401:23:09
372: Mio A. revisits

372: Mio A. revisits

šŸ”ø Hot date heartache. Making it safe to want.

šŸ”¹ Parts:

  • P: the deep well. Feeling left out, parts that are hurt. iā€™m not acceptable, thereā€™s something wrong with me, im ugly, old, unlovable. longing to be loved and recognized but asking for it will bring ridicule
  • P: scared, hopeless, it will swallow me up. The want is too big.Ā 
  • P: judge. who do you think you are, you want too much. Judging the anger of:
  • E: (same as first?) angry 2 year old hitting her sister. felt robbed, little sister sucked up all the oxygen. Needs told sheā€™s adorable and lovable and amazing! Wants to be held and also let go. I have to be angry cuz if not, I will die. Cut the cords to the surveillance apparatus.
  • P: angry, being punished by God
  • E: 6-7 yo experience the loss. angry. Everything I do is wrong! Am I really this monster? Shunted away

šŸŽ“ What I'd like to do differently:

Faster targeting. I know I sound off, a little short. Not feeling tip-top today. And parts increasingly frustrated w my yielding to story-telling. Maybe we should start charging by the hour. Joke. But I imagine the constraint of a 1-hour time limit used by most professionals has its upsides. ā€œYes you could tell me a storyā€¦ and now we have 48 minutes to do the workā€¦ā€ I'm not complaining from a ā€œwaste my timeā€ part, thatā€™s not it. More like ā€œI could serve better if I had some policy hereā€.


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Apr 13, 202401:28:56
371: Theresa A. revisits

371: Theresa A. revisits

šŸ”ø Family loss. She needed there to be more of a network

šŸ”¹ Parts:

  • P: minimizer. This is fine now, nothing to see here. Family image protector. Never look back. Doesnā€™t want a bunch of whining, itā€™s weak to be bothered by things that arenā€™t horrible. ā€œSelf likeā€ is not gonna get the job done
  • E: kid from whom something was taken. There werenā€™t other adults. I want my auntie. Too much focus on her. Nobody explained.

šŸŽ“ What I'd like to do differently:

Once I was certain about Theresaā€™s connection w exile, I relaxed and let some other of my parts (who love talking shop w T) step in. Maybe not ideal. But definitely better than starting a session that way.

As for the concept of "inviting the Self of someone elseā€™s parts", it's never felt right to me. If someone was not good to me, who am I serving by imagining they were? Self can do anything for its parts; ā€œI am here, I can go to where you are, and hereā€™s how I would helpā€ builds trust and heals, in the present. Or Self can "see that these were parts of [other person], and have compassion for their systemā€, in the present. But I think "imagine he was good to you" risks invalidating a part's experience.

Responding to ā€œshe needed those relationships not to endā€ I could have reiterated, "what did she need from someone (you), given those relationships were ending."



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Apr 12, 202401:10:07
370: Charlotte A. revisits
Apr 11, 202401:24:12
369: Bee A. revisits

369: Bee A. revisits

šŸ”ø The one who won't use her voice


šŸŽ“ What I'd like to do differently:

Something. Not sure.


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Apr 09, 202401:10:51
368: Olivia A. revisits
Apr 07, 202401:09:37
367: Christine A. - first call
Apr 05, 202401:13:40
366: Justine A. revisits
Apr 03, 202401:21:14
365: Elena A. revisits (J edit)

365: Elena A. revisits (J edit)

šŸ”ø Pushing


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Mar 19, 202401:00:05
363: Genie A. revisits

363: Genie A. revisits

šŸ”ø Another lovely day at the park. The unfinished bits, untangling, rewinding.
šŸ“Œ Genie followed up:

i had made a conscious decision before that session, to fully 'go there' - wherever 'there' was - and not to 'try' doing anything - no figuring, no thinking, no looking for answers, no wondering how i was coming across, whether it was 'real' or not, no trying to be...anything/something or other. kind of like a trust falling exercise. just let go and do it. the reason being, i wanted to know once and for all if i could trust this IFS thing. and best way to find out was to see how it felt when iĀ was at my most vulnerable.Ā i think the whole - 'you don't have much time left, make a choice' vs 'evaluate, consider, reflect before jumping in' parts were actually about that. about making a choice about ifs. and it was kinda mind blowing. i let go, i fell - and it was all good. better than good! it wasn't just about trusting ifs - it was about trusting me, trusting you and me, trusting not just that i would be safe - but that there would actually be positive benefits - like i would be.... hmm, different? changed? more? ... can't quite find the word - but better in some way that was more than just not being hurt or feeling unsafe. i'm still really grateful and appreciative of all the skeptical, risk management, requiring proof/data, be careful parts - cos they helped me figure out how to conduct this experiment. and they have sure kept me safe in the past! they still can't fully explain the outcome of the experiment - but they accept the results. which were basically a big fat - go for it! lol. so justĀ wanted to explain that and let you know how grateful i amĀ to you! i meanĀ - i didn't even tell you that you were part of anĀ experiment - (which now feels a little unethical! sorry!) and the end result was - that despite those doubtful parts not being able to explain how this whole thing works - they can see that it does.

šŸ”¹ Parts:

  • make choices now. No time to waste. Agitates, gives energy. Choices are not always life and death. Just pick one. Itā€™s irresponsible to waste your time and talent. You might as well be dead
  • regret, more like reflecting summarizing. We canā€™t make a choice without evaluating. Protects a:
  • cute little child/multiple ages who is lost. They like butterflies
  • sadness overwhelms. Doesnā€™t know how to not overwhelm. Where does it come from?! ā€œI ainā€™t nice, you donā€™t wanna get to know meā€ā€¦ itā€™s a long story. Needs james to pass the test re calm, no sirens.


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Mar 15, 202401:25:41
362: Pro: Alethea Hanna with Alex
Mar 13, 202402:53:25
361: Mio A. revisits
Mar 11, 202401:23:03
360: Theresa A. revisits (J edit)

360: Theresa A. revisits (J edit)

šŸ”ø Hold on. What is the point if the problem is big and huge and not in here?


šŸ“Œ Theresa followed up:
Hi. thanks again for your time and help last night. I was just thinking, when people ask me right before a trip if I am "excited" , I always think, "I'll be excited when the plane takes off, until then, there is SO much to do and things to take care of, it just feels like a marathon of chores.". Anyway, I hope your trip is beautiful. I wanted to ask more about what it was that you were hoping to accomplish there, but I couldn't tell if you really wanted to say more.
Last night I stayed with the little girl part for a few minutes. I am now pretty sure that she is more kindergarten age than 3/4. But she does also have memories of older ages than that, too.
When you left us, we were entering a carnival type place with rides. We got on a ferris wheel at her suggestion. A self like part appeared, I noticed. So I told her that she could ride with us if she wanted to, but that I was taking care of the little girl, she didn't need to do that. Then it was just me and the girl. While the ferris wheel was moving, she wanted to show me all of the feelings that she could feel. She threw a little tantrum, not at me, but just because she was allowed to. She showed sadness, and was also loud, and "bored". I was not allowed to express boredom as a kid, as it seemed to make my mom mad. She would often say with great disdain , almost disgust in her voice "I WISH I had time to be bored!". That was a surprising one.
After that she wanted to go back and tell my mom how she could have done better, so we went there and told my mom that all feelings were valid. This one was a loving redo, in that she was not interested in expressing anger at my mom. She seemed to understand that my mom didn't know how to do it right. So we told her that all feelings were allowed, and that her job was not to edit them, but rather to teach her child how to express them in ways that were healthy. At home among those who love you should be a place where you can do that. Anyway, that is my update.

šŸŽ“ What I'd like to do differently:

Dunno. I'm taking a gamble by talking over her, but also if I ignore parts talking over the exile. When Theresa is in Self and oriented, she can move with lightning speed. But we get stuck sometimes disagreeing on direction. She keeps reporting that it's working, so maybe I shouldn't do much differently.

Also do differently: never edit a podcast again. If Ivan is away, we wait!


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Mar 09, 202401:36:30
359: Onyx A. revisits
Mar 03, 202456:35
358: Charlotte A. revisits
Mar 01, 202401:22:42
357:ā«ļø Olivia A. revisits
Feb 28, 202402:32:21
356: Bee A. revisits
Feb 26, 202401:10:02
355: Justine A. revisits
Feb 24, 202401:33:36
354: Daniel A. revisits
Feb 22, 202401:15:52
353: Sienna A. revisits
Feb 20, 202401:13:33
352: Genie A. revisits
Feb 18, 202401:34:29
351: Mio A. revisits

351: Mio A. revisits

šŸ”ø Triggered. "When I was 5 I liked to tie my belt so tight..."


šŸŽ“ What I'd like to do differently:

Obviously my own parts are triggered at start of call (yes, published with approval). We're "just chatting"; I'm not asking those parts of me for space. But plenty of missteps.

I kept trying to call on my curiosity in the beginning but ā€¦ fitness *does* prevent chaos, create safety. I'm trying to get clear on what parts are involved. And after her story my parts are saying "How awful! Letā€™s both put down the IFS, stop looking for childhood connections...ā€

Then I'm yielding to the story teller. I'd like to address it more directly, but fortunately I think it merely slows us down, doesnā€™t stop us.

When she very first mentioned that 5 year-old, it stuck out to me as a part/memory we had not encountered before. For the next 20-30 minutes she's searching for parts to change her relationship with, and I'm stopping myself from suggesting: how about we go and see about that five-year-old. I'm celebrating my noticing/intuition, but also wishing I spoke for it sooner.


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Feb 16, 202401:33:20
350: Clare A. revisits
Feb 14, 202401:14:59
349: Charlotte A. revisits

349: Charlotte A. revisits

šŸ”ø The show must go on, a kick into chaos, and a James exile.

šŸ“Œ 'References to oranges was from a not-published convo. James' reference, "I like my stuff" etc comes from the best youtube video ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR3rK0kZFkg

šŸ”¹ Parts:

  • P: Self (-like?) Relaxed is blissful, euphoric, delicious, exotic. Expansive awareness (but why canā€™t I just have my state without the interruptions!) Canā€™t make myself understood and hassled by the need to.
  • P: Striving to be on top of it all. Trying to make an impression. Hit the marks, Get the pose right. 21, self is like smothering mom.
  • E: 14, 8 some little neuroses. Being dismissed. Unwelcome in convo. Chaos on set. Wants to have fun adult convo. Rather be biking or at pond.

šŸŽ“ What I'd like to do differently:

I donā€™t know if itā€™s ADHD or a herniated disc, but I literally cannot sit in one chair for two hours straight. Maybe thatā€™s a good thing. Iā€™m just saying it here because it explains my fading presence towards the end of this call. Charlotte goes above and beyond in her homework, and the story teller seemed present throughout our visit w exile, so I chose quantity over quality.

I still suspect the delicious exotic maybe a feel-good part


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Feb 12, 202401:42:29
348: Theresa A. revisits
Feb 10, 202451:21
347: Onyx A. - first call
Feb 08, 202401:15:29
346: Olivia A. revisits
Jan 24, 202401:23:52
345: Bee A. revisits
Jan 21, 202401:12:40
344: Justine A. revisits

344: Justine A. revisits

šŸ”ø Wins, apps & systems, and efficient parts work!

šŸ“Œ Justing followed up:

I listened to Bee #310 this morning. Terrible insomnia so you both kept me company. Such a moving session (#2 particularly), and your clarity of defining the steps at the end was great. I noted them down. Because I always forget what to do when I try and do solo work (what question am I supposed to ask now? What happens next?). So I wrote them down in Notes. And then I turned to my system and put the recorder on. It was good. I *think I got all the way to unburdening a young part by following the steps. I made it methodical and I gave total permission to my system to be experimental and play. No expectation of outcome. No judgement of method.

And this is what I want to do for now. Need to do maybe. I need to claim the process and make it mine, so it isnā€™t just once a fortnight/month with you. That doesnā€™t feel like itā€™s really honouring or even loving my system. I mean itā€™s great, I love the calls with you, thereā€™s a relief even in handing over the witness / holding space roll, or rather having my witness (Self) be witnessed and held. AND I want to be meeting my system all the time, as a complete and intrinsic part of my every day life. I canā€™t know my system well if itā€™s only you taking notes.

Anyhoo, those are my thoughts. And thatā€™s all to say that Iā€™m going to continue with this grand experiment around the parts we spoke about above. Iā€™ll keep you posted (and Iā€™ll keep my calls booked with you too šŸ˜Š)



  • P - 14yo Fearful of overwhelm going deep today, thinking part in a hammock , perfect vantage point
  • E - Lonely fearful, wants to weep and wail. Filling the oceans of the world w its tears. No one cared, no one listened, and when they were there, they turned away.

šŸŽ“ What I'd like to do differently:

I knew I was letting parts speak when I got into the ChatGPT etc stuff. So nice to trust Justine-Self to guide us back, feels very 1+1=10


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Dec 30, 202301:17:54
343: Sienna A. revisits
Dec 28, 202301:25:44
342: Genie A. revisits
Dec 26, 202301:38:51
341: Mio A. revisits
Dec 19, 202301:19:27
340: ā«ļø Clare A. revisits

340: ā«ļø Clare A. revisits

šŸ”ø 1ļøāƒ£ Choppinā€™ it up with the tired part *** 2ļøāƒ£ Where is the love? šŸ”¹ Parts: 1ļøāƒ£

  • - P: The bug out part: run! (from the ridiculousness)
  • - P: Tired. They are to blame - get out! It sweeps, keeps it clean inside. Thinks Clare is 12. (Shh donā€™t go there!) Rather be fishing. Donā€™t open the doors it gets cold. Cooking showā€¦ no mess there, sleep cleans mess. Needs a wagon to put all the stuff in and a broom. Wants to be listened to. Why 12?

2ļøāƒ£

  • - P: Donā€™t lose the love! Whoā€™s in charge here?
  • - P: go do something else youā€™re wasting your time. Stop worrying
  • - E: worried hopeless, hurt. Lover
  • - P: tired dont communicate w worried! This will get messy. Everything was fine, stop disrupting parts. Now there are loose ends. Think Iā€™m 12. Wants closure. Donā€™t vomit all over everything.. concerned about baby.
  • - P: Armor, sponge thinks Im 37 šŸŽ“ What I'd like to do differently: 1ļøāƒ£ I got a lot of love for sleepy parts. I could have directed toward unblending, but I stuck w curiosity instead. I'm doing a lot of dot-connecting, which maybe was not a great move. Just wanted to see where it might take us. 2ļøāƒ£ I was on the fence re: revisiting, going deeper w exile. Wanted to respect tired and distracted parts. Plus my own energy was kinda weak.


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Dec 18, 202302:01:46