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Mostly Murder (But Sometimes Not)

Mostly Murder (But Sometimes Not)

By The O'Brien Siblings

Mostly Murder (But Sometimes Not) is a podcast where four siblings loosely discuss mysteries and whodunits throughout a vast array of pop culture media. We love mysteries, and have since we were reading Boxcar Children and Nancy Drew by flashlight after Lights-Out. The endless detectives, investigators, and groups of roving teenagers who solve crime are all game for discussion on this show. It doubles as an excuse for us to hang out with each other—but also discuss murder!

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The Hound of the Baskervilles (1959)

Mostly Murder (But Sometimes Not)Nov 09, 2021

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Prime Suspect 1973, "Episode One"

Prime Suspect 1973, "Episode One"

New episode out now! We cover the first episode of Prime Suspect 1973 (or Prime Suspect: Tennison if you’re American), a 2017 prequel series about the early days of Jane Tennison’s law enforcement career. We enjoyed the more nuanced take it had regarding many things, including how the detectives treated drug users, how they presented the autopsy scene, and the time the show spent on the grief of the family. We discuss the differences in how the women of the police force are treated versus the men, talk about how they establish “good cop” Len Bradfield and the “bad cops” of the other detectives, love the character of Morgan and how competent she is, and continue to not understand London police organization. We love the 1970s setting and think it really adds a whole other level to the show; the costumes, set decoration, and especially the excellent music selection really enhanced the vibe. Katy points out multiple obvious things, Carrie was not impressed by the wigs, Maddy leads a moment of silence, and Mack thought there were too many greasy white boys. We also discuss the trope of a quirky medical examiner and how shows try to deal with the reality of a dead body, get excited about radios and ticker tape, learn Carrie was right about London buildings being cleaner, and do not approve of puking on screen. Listen to hear more about bleached Henry Cavill, British accents, Scone Palace, Night Court, and more! Plus, try to figure out which one of us had Covid while recording, which one was hungover, and which one had a few audio dropouts fixed in post! Enjoy!


TW: Drug addiction, sex work, sex work of a minor, murder of a sex worker, police abuse, misogyny, quality of low income housing, Grenfell Tower fire


Show Notes:

May 07, 202401:10:25
Moonlighting, "Pilot"

Moonlighting, "Pilot"

New episode out now! We watched the pilot episode of the 1980’s dramedy Moonlighting, starring Cybill Shepherd and Bruce Willis. We enjoy the chemistry and visual comedy work of the two leads and think they were both excellent, discuss the prevalence of the banter and how it dominates the dialogue of the show, learn a little bit about the production struggles, and call out the many recognizable guest stars who make an appearance. We talk about how this was “appointment TV” for so many people and how it remains a top show on many “Best Of” lists, absolutely love the ‘80s lifestyles and hair, and wonder if Bruce Willis’ contemporary charm helped David seem not as creepy in his initial stalker-ish and pushy behavior. We also cover the somewhat confusing mystery plot, make guesses at what 1980s computers can do, and realize we cannot compare everything to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. Katy misinterprets an apparently common phrase, Carrie tries to be cool with new lingo, Maddy fixates on the butts, and Mack finds certain driving practices unforgivable. We also discuss proper diamond storage, make many Friends and Murder She Wrote references, learn about Orson Welles’ last role, and believe we should protect furries to save the internet. Listen to hear more about misunderstanding tax write-offs, barefoot running, ladder physics, confusing “Maddy” for “Maddy”, and Jonathan Livingston Seagull. Enjoy!


TW: Nazis, Holocaust diamonds, Woody Allen, misogyny


Show Notes:

Apr 16, 202401:36:06
Mystery Road, "Gone"

Mystery Road, "Gone"

New episode out now! We discuss the first episode of the Australian show Mystery Road, titled “Gone”. We talk about the familiar concept of “big city detective in small town” and how this show handled it, compare the town vibes and the inhabitants to others we are familiar with, and really enjoy how the cinematography highlights the vast otherness of the landscape. We admire the detective skills of Jay Swan, although we have reservations on how he gets his information and wonder if he is justified in withholding said information from the local police force. We also realize we are not that familiar with Australian media in general, and make a number of guesses regarding slang, geography, and how colonialism and racism shaped modern Australia differently than it shaped America. Katy is not familiar with meth, Carrie loses her breath over her own joke, Maddy is revisiting 2004 via an important historical record, and Mack calls out Minnesota in a harsh way. We also question why people live in harsh places, give suggestions on smooth brain content, learn how lucrative cattle rustling is, and wonder why How I Met Your Mother did not hold up as much as older sitcom shows. We touch on things like cowboy hats, Irish foreheads, adults watching children’s programming, and Red Dead Redemption 2 yet again. Give it a listen! 


TW: Colonialism, racism, pedophilia, drug use and addiction, cattle for food, brief mention of teen pregnancy and rape

Show Notes:

The animated children’s shows Jason Mantzoukas recommended on TV, I Say w Ashley Ray were Hilda and City of Ghosts, both on Netflix

Mar 26, 202401:17:39
"The Valley of Fear," by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

"The Valley of Fear," by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

New episode out now! We are finally covering the original literary Sherlock Holmes, after reading Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s book "The Valley of Fear". We discuss the textual characters of Holmes and Watson, and realize they are both very dramatic characters in their own ways. We analyze the way Sherlock investigates and how he shows his work, debate his ethical judgment and how his need to show off may have led to more death, and discuss the obsession with Moriarty compared to his presence in the books. We also talk about the contextual history of these stories concerning Victorian attitudes towards male relationships and how they were - or were not- allowed to bond, lament the way women are written about by Doyle and debate Holmes’ attitude towards them, and wonder at the patriarchal male need to create opportunities to feel powerful and earn status. Katy pronounces denouement wrong yet again, Carrie gives some eyebrow waggles, Maddy deserves a large amount of credit and grace, and Mack does not care about being rude to us. We also cover the exceptional Knowledge of London cabbies and how it changes their brain, make guesses about what is in an almanac, and one of us even wrote a mysterious haiku. Listen to hear more about men-only clubs, “rubber ducking”, old shady banks, mob pensions, and sawed-off shotguns in Red Dead Redemption 2. And ONE of us quotes Brennan Lee Mulligan - but it’s not Mack! Enjoy! 

PS. Thank you to Maddy for completing the assignment on time - she deserves all the credit and the other three are horrible procrastinators.  


TW: Misogyny, Victorian views on homosexuality, shotgun wounds, indigenous trauma concerning forced removal, union gangs 


Mar 05, 202401:39:53
Inspector Morse, "The Dead of Jericho"

Inspector Morse, "The Dead of Jericho"

New episode out now! We watched the first episode of Inspector Morse, a staple of British detective television and inspiration for two further series. We dig into the character of Morse and how he is presented in the show, discussing how his interests and flaws are weaved into the narrative and also how he goes about solving cases with “unorthodox” methods. We like Lewis and appreciate his agency, enjoy the music and choral singing, analyze the character’s living spaces, and debate how the morality of the 1980s drove the motive. We also talk about how the mystery is not spoon fed to the audience; the story was complicated and Morse got things wrong which was a surprising but enjoyable aspect, even if it made us confused. Katy accidentally slighted Jeremy Sumpter, Carrie enjoys live music performed well, Maddy longs for a quaint life, and Mack has opinions about handwriting. We talk about annoying puzzles, guess what American crime procedurals are popular across the pond, share stories about empty restaurants that may be fronts, and ask the age old question - gay or Oxford student? We also touch on real ale, repointing, sacred harp singing, and fish smells. And something quite incredible happens for the first time in the podcast’s history…give it a listen to find out what! Enjoy!


TW: death by suicide, binge drinking, blackmail, classicism, drug addiction, suspected incest

Show Notes:

  • Batman sound effect we used

  • Link to short YouTube video about sacred harp singing by Awake Productions

  • The episode of Endeavour Katy was remembering is series 1, episode 3, titled “Rocket”.

Feb 13, 202401:32:38
The Private Eyes (1980)

The Private Eyes (1980)

New episode out now! We watched the 1980 mystery comedy The Private Eyes, starring Tim Conway and Don Knotts. We debate what the movie was aiming for between mystery and satire, wonder who the audience was intended to be, have issues figuring out if things were jokes or clues, and perhaps read too much into the actual plot. We learn the script was written in two days, and then subsequently wonder if the casting of two beloved comedy actors did a lot of the work in pumping up the humor of the film. We also feel that the Biltmore Estate lent a lot to the visuals, have issues with the casual '70s racism, think Mel Brooks was a big influence, and really like the Scooby-Doo of it all - with the epitome of a mysterious cloaked figure. Katy worried that ghosts were real, Carrie doesn't think Don Knotts is funny, Maddy has Biltmore blindness, and Mack knows who Richard Nixon is. We talk about Vulcan humor and what is unintentionally funny about old Star Trek, lament that it's difficult for kids today to learn about older pop culture, pitch The Carol Burnett Show TikTok, and channel The Mickey Mouse Club. We also cover castle architecture, funny pigeon bits, air quotes, Old Glory, and secret passages. Give it a listen and enjoy!


TW: Racist stereotypes, tongue mutilation, Santa Claus mythology, harm to animals, sexism


Show Notes:

Jan 23, 202401:14:10
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005)

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (2005)

New episode out now! We watched Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, the 2005 black comedy from Shane Black, starring Robert Downey Jr. and Val Kilmer. We talk about the modernization of 1940’s noir tropes and how the film both parodies and utilizes them, pick apart the astounding 2000s of it all via the weird misogyny and homophobia, touch on the theme of abuse fathers running throughout, and compare both main characters to Maddy’s favorite detective, Philip Marlowe. We discuss the use of narration and fourth wall breaking in films, love the clever quippiness of the dialogue, and are a bit surprised by the number of both guns and deaths in the film. We also realize none of us really understood the whole plot but decide that doesn't matter as the movie was fun regardless. Katy was influenced by Empire magazine yet again, Carrie drops some quick book knowledge, Maddy shares a “deeply scarring” interaction, and Mack creates an interesting list. We also guess things about Val Kilmer, talk about how we deal with getting older, learn facts about director Shane Black, and discover that different platforms have different subtitles. Listen to hear more about biblical undergarments, favorite Batmans, Psych, and more!  And if you have any creative yet profane Lord of the Rings names, let us know! Enjoy!


TW: Misogyny, homophobia, drugs, incest, sexual abuse of a child, severing of a finger


Jan 04, 202401:21:59
The Tinkertons: A Mackenzie Christmas Mystery
Dec 12, 202301:37:59
The Pinkertons, "Kansas City"

The Pinkertons, "Kansas City"

New episode out now! We watched the pilot of The Pinkertons, a Canadian period procedural about the beginnings of the Pinkerton Agency in post-Civil War Missouri. We discuss the representation of both Allan Pinkerton and his son Will, as well as one of the earliest female detectives Kate Warne, and wonder how involved the actual Pinkerton agency was in their depiction. We decide it follows basic procedural rules, admire the costume design even if they are not dirty enough, try to diagnose our lackluster feelings about the episode, and talk at length about how it made us want to play Red Dead Redemption 2 instead. (Seriously, this episode is basically half advertisement for RDR2). Katy finds herself defending Canadian television again, Carrie busts out a high-point vocabulary word, Maddy reveals her feelings for bagpipes, and Mack raves about Allan Pinkerton. We talk about the true dangers of the Civil War, compare the weird commercials we saw while watching, share video game stories, and try to remember our confirmation names. We also learn many facts in real time, including why some movies are called spaghetti westerns, what bushwhackers are, and when sunscreen was invented. Listen to hear about wild unboxing stories, the Sultana steamboat, litigation, the sexual energy of Dulé Hill, and more! (Seriously Mack shares so many varied and interesting facts). Enjoy and yeehaw!

TW: Anti-Union sentiment, strikebreaking, racism, Southern Confederacy 

Show Notes:

Nov 21, 202301:19:19
Top of the Lake, "Paradise Sold"

Top of the Lake, "Paradise Sold"

New episode out now! We watched the first episode of Top of the Lake, a dark show about traumatic events in rural New Zealand. We discuss the bleakness that pervades the episode both in the subject matter and the cinematography, as well the difficulties we face in covering only the beginning of a story. We debate the need for modern-day detectives to have traumatic pasts in order to do their jobs, deplore the local police force and their apathetic attitudes towards trauma, and have concerns about the environmental setup GJ had planned for her cult of women. We also discuss whether investigators have to be cold or hardened to solve dark crimes, appreciate the subtle use of environmental storytelling, and mention the beauty of the mountains multiple times. Katy is a big supporter of backpacks for adults, Carrie shares facts about kiwi birds, Maddy poignantly quotes The Beatles, and Mack would like to reinvent how cars are sold. We also talk about the oddness of celebrities being in Michigan, think horses are beautiful, mispronounce Marcella again, and share some wild stories from our childhoods about property damage from sibling fights. Listen to hear about Target parking lot mountain vistas, dangerous megafauna, chimp names, and Pushing Daisies! For added fun, count how many times we mention Lord of the Rings! This episode has a lot of sibling energy- enjoy!


TW:  Non-fatal suicide attempt, cancer, possible/probable statutory rape, dog death, making light of murder, child molestation, child pregnancy, suggestions of incest, gang rape


Show Notes:

Katy was incorrect about where Kristen Bell went to high school, it was not Roseville High School.


When we say Helen Hunt, we mean Holly Hunter. Apologies to Ms. Hunter for the mistake. Thank you.



Nov 01, 202301:14:14
Death on the Nile (2022)

Death on the Nile (2022)

We’re back with a new episode! We dove into Death on the Nile, the 2022 Kenneth Branagh adaptation of the Agatha Christie novel, and wow do we have thoughts. We get right into it, covering the character of Poirot and how we rank Branagh’s version compared to the previous two we explored on the podcast. We talk about the fundamental elements of the detective, and consider why we felt this movie missed the mark. We discuss the lack of connection we had to varying degrees, and wonder how much of it had to do with the “style over substance” approach and how it seemed to cater to a general audience. We did, however, admire the costumes and production design (despite the terrible CGI), thought the actual mystery part was adapted well, and believe the attempts at color conscious casting were at least partially successful. We also agreed that the actors did great work with what they were given, but wish these production studios did more to vet the histories and behavior of who they cast. Katy gets her Marvel movies mixed up, Carrie quietly drops some Cleopatra facts, Maddy questions the historical accuracy of balloon releases, and Mack breaks down the patriarchy (it’s not about horses). We wonder why every modern hero needs traumatic backstories, enjoy the addition of lesbians, discuss actors who feel weird in period pieces, and ask Mack to answer the age-old question, “Why do men suck so much?” We also cover bullet sizes, Jurassic Park, the Bryan Cranston Effect, dance floor humping, and unions. Listen to hear an incredible Branagh Poirot impression!

“Every decision they made was the wrong decision.” - Carrie


TW: Anti-vax views, cannibalism, colonialism, racism, appropriation of ancient and modern Egyptian culture, vore. Mentions of Armie Hammer, Russell Brand, Gal Gadot, Johnny Depp


Show Notes:

Oct 11, 202301:17:32
The Usual Suspects (1995)

The Usual Suspects (1995)

New episode out now! We watched the 1995 neo-noir film The Usual Suspects and got right into the storytelling of it all. We discussed how most of the movie is told from an unreliable narrator’s perspective, and tried to decipher what was real and what perhaps wasn’t, deciding how that plays into the “mystery” if we cannot know the truth. We also talked about the true goals of Keyser Söze, revealed what our preconceived expectations of the movie were, thought the cinematography was very well done, and dissected the multitude of accents in the film. We enjoyed that it was essentially a movie of great character actors, learned some fun facts about the infamous lineup scene, and realized the end has been spoofed multiple times. Katy needs to know things, Carrie hates littering, Maddy enjoys being right, and Mack shares facts about fresh picked coffee beans. We impart important lessons about Googling a movie while watching it, try to remember specifics about murderers, hear an anecdote about ancient Rome, and are grossed out at a specific moment from the beginning of the film. Give it a listen to hear about Howard the Duck, reusing body bags, Adam Sandler, and the difficulty of trying a Christopher Walken impression. Enjoy! (Disclaimer: There are some very small dropout issues in Mack’s summary; we apologize for the quality but rest assured it does not happen the entire episode)


TW: Homophobia, faking a disability, Kevin Spacey, Bryan Singer


Show Notes:


The murderer Mack brought up was indeed the one Katy was thinking of, John List. You can view the Wiki on him
here and a Medium article about the aged-up bust used to catch him here.

Aug 29, 202301:24:47
The Suspicions of Mr Whicher, “The Murder at Road Hill House”

The Suspicions of Mr Whicher, “The Murder at Road Hill House”

New episode out now! We watched the first installment of The Suspicions of Mr Whicher, “The Murder at Road Hill House”. We cover how this is a pretty faithful adaptation of a horrifying true story, discuss the character of Mr. Whicher and his real history as “the prince of detectives”, and talk about the nature and purpose of justice within flawed systems that are just made up. We also wonder what kind of forensic sciences existed in the 1860s, discuss the influence of class on how the big-city detective interacts with the countryside village and household, and think that the Kent family dynamics are toxic and weird. Katy tries to remember Victorian police facts, Carrie gets infuriated with smarminess, Maddy reveals herself to be anti-monarchy, and Mack wins some big vocabulary points. We also talk about Victorian child labor laws, pitch some new TV shows, lament the state of 1800s medicine, and think this would have benefited from the addition of Henry Cavill’s Witcher. Listen now to hear more about studying dinosaurs, the lack of caveman mysteries, delivering bounties in Red Dead Redemption 2, and the perpetualness of boob sweat. Enjoy!


TW: Murder of a young child, fratricide, historical high rates of child mortality, infidelity, antiquated medical attitudes towards women


Show Notes/Sources: 


Aug 08, 202301:18:08
Bones, "Spaceman in a Crater"

Bones, "Spaceman in a Crater"

New episode out now! We delve into the world of Booth and Brennan in the season 2 episode of Bones, “Spaceman in a Crater”. We talk about what feels different about this show as a procedural, with a focus on literal bones, as well as the tropes it shares with other similar shows. We discuss the possible portrayals of the autism spectrum, wonder who exactly funds the Jeffersonian Medico-Legal Lab, talk about Booth’s loyalty to the US, and think that these coworkers are way too into each other’s business. We also share our family history with the show, discuss the psychology of astronauts and the obsession with space, and believe that David Boreanaz is a Television Professional(™). Katy gets a common phrase wrong more than once, Carrie is the most competent person on the entire podcast, Maddy gives some great makeup tips, and Mack shares a compelling alien theory. We talk about annoying product placement, discuss whether all animals would eat people if given the chance, make deals regarding phone etiquette, and discover how long you need to polish rocks for. We also theorize about a new type of injury caused by a repetitive action, learn cool facts about coral, and reference at least two different ‘90s sitcoms. Give it a listen! (Also, this episode may not be for Mom. Sorry, Tander). Series spoilers


TW: Cancer, Hodgkin’s lymphoma, autistic representations in media, animals eating humans, billionaires 


Show Notes:

Jul 19, 202301:22:02
The Wolf Among Us

The Wolf Among Us

New episode out now! We played The Wolf Among Us from Telltale Games, a kind of choose-your-own-adventure video game where you solve a mystery set in a twisted underground world filled with characters from fairy tales, myths, and more. We discuss our strategies in making decisions, debate the moral and ethical values of our choices, and ultimately discover how those choices affected the kind of sheriff Bigby Wolf became. We talk about how the familiar characters were interpreted, discuss how poverty and corruption leads to desperate decisions, debate how cruel the villain ended up being, and love the art style and detailed design. We also reveal that ultimately we only cared about TJ, aka Toad Jr., and were more OK with murdering people than with disappointing him. Katy lived a meme in real life, Carrie felt constantly guilty being mean, Maddy gets shocked by a Cinderella translation, and Mack gives a sneak peek into future podcast possibilities. We get into the super dark original versions of fairy tales, talk about the differences between the game and the comics, were unnerved by some of the game prompts, and learn that we have all tried to find a playable online version of Barbie Detective without success. We also cover a new Untitled Goose Game pitch, getting surprised by nudity, the weird mix of character inspirations, and humidity. Give it a listen! And #JusticeForTJ


TW: Exploitation and murder of sex workers, political corruption, torture, gore, dark original versions of fairy tales, rape


Show Notes:

Jun 27, 202301:38:08
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2009)

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2009)

New episode out now! We watched the original Swedish film adaptation of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2009), based on the 2005 book by Stieg Larsson. We talk about the extremely dark and jarring themes that are present throughout the story, praise the excellent acting, and discuss how the content is adapted from the book to the film. We compare the intentions, behaviors, and decisions of Mikael and Lisbeth, debate the socioeconomics of being a serial killer and how being a rich man helps one get away with it, and wonder how realistic the portrayal of hacking is. We also really, really abhor the patriarchy, and discuss the different levels of misogynist hate and how it manifests in the film. Katy was overjoyed by the amount of archives, Carrie loves an impressive eyebrow, Maddy is a sucker for a well-adapted book, and Mack gets disappointed by hacker names. We also talk about huge dips in the happiness index, fighting for depressing Oscar roles, and American vs. Swedish jail systems. We cover SpongeBob memes, dead face actors, American Girl dolls, and O’Brien family facts. There are multiple revelations within—This. Episode. Has. Everything! Listen wherever you get your podcasts!


TW: Rape, incestual rape, rape by government appointed guardian, Nazis, antisemitism, serial killing of marginalized women, serial killing of Jewish women, corpse mutilation, domestic abuse, patricide, United States prison industrial complex, death by suicide, misogyny


Show Notes:

Jun 06, 202301:35:03
Double Indemnity (1944)

Double Indemnity (1944)

New episode out now! We cover one of Hollywood’s most famous noir films, Double Indemnity (1944). We pick apart the moral quandaries and decisions of the main characters, discuss the banter inherent in these types of films, and debate whether or not certain acts took place offscreen. We talk about how the people in these movies seem to fall in love extremely quickly, wonder exactly when Neff created the insurance fraud scheme in his mind, call out the racial stereotyping, and someone laments the continued presence of Raymond Chandler in our podcast. We compare this movie to a few other films we’ve covered, comment on the sheer amount of cigarette action, and reveal who the actual coolest person in the movie is. Katy is a big fan of a short tie with a high pant, Carrie loves a dictaphone, Maddy thinks that crab mouth parts are incredible, and Mack tells a story about searching for a house. We debate whether lighting a match is code for something, admire actuarial tables, try to decide if we would live in a house where we knew a death had just happened, and appreciate the loosening of relationship deal-breakers since the 1940s. We also talk about autocannibalism, how phone numbers worked, old Hollywood bloopers, and the price of real estate. Give it a listen to hear us all try at least one accent!


TW: Death by suicide, age difference in ambiguous relationship, infidelity, racism


Show Notes:

May 16, 202301:26:05
A Simple Favor (2018)

A Simple Favor (2018)


New episode out now! We cover Paul Feig’s A Simple Favor (2018), a modern-day thriller starring Anna Kendrick and Blake Lively. We dissect the wild twists and turns taken, think that the sapphic undertones were really not that “under,” debate the characters’ shifting motivations and loyalties, and decide that no one in this film is all that healthy, mentally. We also talk about the depictions of modern motherhood and the stereotype of a “mommy” clique, delve into the characters’ previous trauma, and get distracted by shoes. We think the costumes are essential (especially Blake Lively’s), love an adaptive antagonist, get skeeved out by some choices, and discuss the bits of Paul Feig’s vibe that appear in the film. Katy gets confused by symbology, Carrie sabotages herself, Maddy creates some cool and hip lyrics, and Mack makes an astute connection to a previous film we covered. We also clear up some misconceptions about the term “house poor,” get confused about names and cars, spot some convenient product placement, and reveal we all took very expressive notes. Listen to hear more of our thoughts about interior decorating, LEGO prices, repurposed Midwestern castles, toy storage, and more! Give it a listen wherever you get your podcasts!

TW: Drowning murder, sororicide, incest, infant death in utero, motherhood discussions, religious upbringing trauma, vehicular fatalities, death by suicide


Apr 25, 202301:26:56
Memories of Murder (2003)

Memories of Murder (2003)

New episode out now! We watched Bong Joon Ho’s Memories of Murder (2003), a cult crime movie often considered one of the best East Asian films ever made. We get right into the main characters, discussing how they are not good at their jobs and start out morally and ethically terrible, rightfully being called out by the community. We talk about the journeys the detectives go through and how their country and city cultures clash, discuss the aspects of masculinity the film depicts, hit on the many parallels we saw between Korean and American culture, and figure this is more a slice of life/culture of crime-solving film rather than a straight detective story. We also consider the fact that it is the first non-English language film we’ve covered, wonder if some of the aspects went over our heads because of an unfamiliarity with both Korean culture and 1980’s Korean history, and talk about the visual style of the film such as desaturated colors and impactful composition. Katy severely misremembers Stand By Me, Carrie shares product placement theories, Maddy teaches us how the Swiss lightly curse, and Mack remembers a psychological study about bullying. We get terrified of killers in fields, believe America is a Western ideal but a bad reality, get infuriated by sexism in the police force, and wonder about the real life case this is based on. We also talk about getting old, medical consent, cool chase scenes, great adages, and generalizations about men. Listen to the very end for a post credit surprise!


TW: Rape, murder, abuse of developmentally disabled individuals, police brutality both past and present, abuse, torture and coercion, militarization of police, school shootings, abuse by Christian leaders, emergency amputation, authoritarian military politics


Show Notes:

Apr 05, 202301:28:01
Inspector George Gently, "Gently Upside Down"

Inspector George Gently, "Gently Upside Down"

New episode out now! We watched the season four episode of Inspector George Gently, “Gently Upside Down”. We discuss how this show feels a little different than other period British mystery shows, and how it handles tough subjects in what seems to be a more realistic manner. We talk about the differences between Gently and Bacchus, and how those different strengths and weaknesses allow them to work together successfully as a team while still clashing occasionally. We also cover the timeless quality of English architecture, discuss 1960s attitudes towards class, age, and gender, and wonder if Bacchus is a viewer substitute who jumps on all the red herrings. Katy brings up the Beatles twice, Carrie reminisces about school seating, Maddy thinks everyone should dance, and Mack brings up a disturbing detail from a Transformers movie. We spend some time debating if hiding a murder is prohibitively expensive, wonder if checking run time when someone confesses is cheating, and expound on the collective universal love for the Shrek franchise. We also cover multiple Mr. Rochesters, legal history, Gretna Green, and more! Give it a listen and you’ll also learn who is really behind Batman’s mask!

TW: Inappropriate student/teacher relationships, statutory rape, teen pregnancy, domestic abuse, child abuse

Mar 15, 202301:31:10
Charade (1963)

Charade (1963)

New episode out now! We cover 1963’s Charade and discuss this “absolute whirlwind” of a movie. We get right into the multiple mysteries and twists involved, and try to figure out the timelines of all the identity reveals. (So many identity reveals). We discuss our issues with the age gap between Cary Grant and Audrey Hepburn, and wonder if calling it out in the script was the right move even if they’re both charming. We also discuss her character’s levels of naivete, love the costumes and production design, marvel at the specific dialogue and banter, and think the ‘60s was just a wild time. Katy is bad at math, Carrie has Opinions about skincare, Maddy cannot trust her memory, and Mack is afraid of subway tunnels. We talk about volatile collector markets, forget that drugs exist, wonder if we would trick a child for $2 million dollars, and love us some built-in shelving. We also cover Batman facts, realistic fight scenes, eyebrow acting, and awkward elevators. Give it a listen!

TW: Age gap romance, veteran amputee discussion, WWII prisoners of war, Nazis

Show Notes:

The movie Katy was thinking of was The Best Years of Our Lives (1946) and it’s definitely worth watching.

Feb 21, 202301:26:07
The Prestige (2006)

The Prestige (2006)

New episode out now! We cover the complicated world of obsessive Victorian magicians in 2006’s The Prestige, and beware–spoilers abound! This movie is wild and we get right into it by trying to unravel the many layers and timelines of this mystery-adjacent film. We talk about the themes of obsession, sacrifice, class, and of course magic while wondering if the addition of a sci-fi element muddles the mystery a little. We also try to decide if all of the main characters are sociopaths, mull over the concept of magic vs science, think the acting is appropriately intense, and get into a slight philosophical debate about the nature of cloning, souls, and consciousness. Katy squeezes in some London knowledge to the surprise of no one, Carrie gets jealous of handwriting, Maddy wants all the magic wands, and Mack has a get-rich plan for his clones. We also talk about other Victorian stage acts, wonder if we’ve ever been to Colorado Springs, agree that electricity is scary, and get surprised by Andy Serkis. Give it a go and remember, always listen to Michael Caine! Enjoy!

TW: Racism, suicide, death by drowning, exploitation of disabled people including the blind, voluntary self-mutilation, sociopaths, classism, animal death

Show Notes:


Jan 31, 202301:21:15
The Great Mouse Detective (1986)

The Great Mouse Detective (1986)

New episode out now! We’re back to our regular schedule with a dive into the world of Disney animation, covering 1986’s The Great Mouse Detective. We learn how it adapts a children's book which in turn mirrored Sherlock Holmes, wonder at the world-building of mice parallels to human monarchies and war, and don’t really understand the rules concerning which animals get to talk. We also discuss the state of Disney animation in the ‘80s leading to the disjointed development of this movie in particular, as well as how the animators felt about it. Most of us agree that the songs don’t really slap, but we all fully agree that Vincent Price gives a masterful villain performance. Katy makes guesses about the history of the British monarchy, Carrie establishes the roots of a childhood fear, Maddy is only interested in mouse capitalism, and Mack gives us all a passionate lecture. We also debate if this movie is the beginning of Skynet, discuss the awful ways cartoons villainize fat people, wonder why we assign gender to types of animals, and realize that taxes are a shortcut for evil in kids movies. Listen to hear us talk about drag queens, octopus eyes, harmful princess culture, and babysitter stories! Enjoy!

TW: Monarchies, fatphobia, capitalist systems causing harm

Show Notes


Jan 10, 202301:15:43
Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery (2022)

Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery (2022)

Special episode out now! We watched the new Rian Johnson whodunit Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery, starring Daniel Craig as the gentleman detective Benoit Blanc! We discuss how Johnson both pays homage to the Agatha Christie of it all while also making unconventional and surprising choices, as well as wonder whether it’s really a sequel or if it was forced to be called so by Hollywood expectations. We talk about how the pattern you think you can see is not what unfolds, examine Blanc’s relationship with the people he’s helping, and debate whether he’s become a bit manic in lockdown. We also discuss the depiction of the tech genius billionaire, how being rich does not equal being smart, how money influences choices for all the characters, and debate whether the comeuppance for the murderer was satisfying for all of us. We rave about the acting and how it felt like they were having a blast, praise the costuming choices, and just love the overall design of the movie. Katy shows off some Beatles knowledge, Carrie drops some amazing cameo facts, Maddy compares Blanc to a Muppet, and Mack is too immature for brussel sprouts. We also get into nightmare AI clowns, pandemic mask shorthand, and bathing suit inspirations. Spoilers abound, so we DO recommend you watch the movie before listening! Enjoy!

Dec 28, 202201:30:37
Mack's Big Christmas Show 2022!

Mack's Big Christmas Show 2022!

Dec 14, 202201:04:32
Enola Holmes 2 (2022)

Enola Holmes 2 (2022)

New special episode out now! We enter the world of Victorian London yet again with the new Netflix film Enola Holmes 2. We get right into picking apart the multiple mysteries, discuss how our feelings compare to the original, debate how the film handled the balance between being an Enola vs a Sherlock movie, and wonder if we are just too old to care about young romance. We all liked the inclusion of true events and how it didn’t shy away from portraying the real corruption in the police force, the industrial world, and in the government while maintaining the same Enola air of adventure. We also discuss how Sherlock needs constant care, think Grail felt like a Bond villain in his acting, and still get annoyed by the fourth wall breaking. And we of course all continue to find Henry Cavill and his hair very attractive. Katy got confused by dance and math, Carrie will not allow plagiarizing, Maddy is a wild wagon driver, and Mack finally gets to speak. We reveal a practice of sneaking into each other’s rooms growing up, wonder if bulking up makes your hands look small, love the push for strike action, and lament our prior knowledge of Victorian industrial diseases. We also talk about Rube Goldberg machines, feeling like a mother bird, Victorian poop jokes, and good names for horses. Listen to find out which one of us tried to gather evidence showing why this movie was bad - and failed! Enjoy!

TW: Government and corporate negligence/corruption, police corruption and violence, racism

Nov 22, 202201:26:56
Muppets Most Wanted (2014)

Muppets Most Wanted (2014)

New episode out now! We encounter another jewel-heist-in-London-involving-Muppets film with 2014's Muppets Most Wanted! We discuss the appeal of the Muppets and how the format they're in can really make or break the offbeat humor, and debate whether this movie accomplished that traditional zaniness. We talk about how we love the practical nature of the Muppets, wonder if we may have liked this movie a bit more if a few actors were replaced, and complain about the use of CGI. We also get into the fun cameos and how we recognized almost all of them, and confirm we loved all the songs - even the romantic one. Katy loves synchronized swimming and lists, Carrie does not enjoy a mirror mime gag, Maddy knows Josh Groban, and Mack goes on two separate rants but then does an incredible Doofenshmirtz impression. We also argue about the word of art thieves, think that freely dancing to the Macarena seems fun, yell at Mack twice, and some of us get weirded out by sexy Kermit (aka Constantine). Give it a listen to hear us talk about European employment laws, clown cars, the Tower of London, Labyrinth, and which one of us thought this movie was incredible. Enjoy!

TW: Covid references, Russian gulag


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Nov 01, 202201:29:22
The Mentalist, "Russet Potatoes"

The Mentalist, "Russet Potatoes"

New episode out now! We dip back into the CBS procedural with a season one episode of The Mentalist, “Russet Potatoes”.  We discuss the trope of “odd specialist consultant helps law enforcement” and how this show attempts to explore that idea, and debate whether or not it succeeds. We also have some difficulty accepting the premise of this particular episode, and try to get into the specifics of hypnotherapy vs hypnosis vs “neuro-linguistic programming” vs “mentalist” skills like body language and cold reading. Katy derails the conversation to talk about another podcast, Carrie was not wearing her glasses, Maddy wants to break into a new musical career, and Mack shares a desire to run through a glass wall. We also wonder if Hollywood casting agents have folders of day-player types for procedurals, wonder if TV writing is like being a Dungeon Master, pitch a number of new TV shows, and learn some disturbing things about Mack. Listen to hear us talk about senior all night parties, MLM vs cults, duct tape, and more! It’s a real fun one, as we actually recorded while all physically together, so expect some more interrupting than usual and a bit of echo for ambiance! Plus, if you stick around until the end you’ll hear a little BTS slice of the podcast! Enjoy!

TW: Serial killers, MLM schemes

Oct 11, 202201:33:09
"Wicked Things" by John Allison and Max Sarin

"Wicked Things" by John Allison and Max Sarin

New episode out now! We cover a comic book for the first time on the podcast for our 69th episode! The four of us read Volume 1 of Wicked Things by John Allison and Max Sarin. We discuss the character of Charlotte Grote, the teen detective, and how her methods compare to other crime-solvers we’ve encountered. We love the visual art style and how it feels animated, get slightly confused by some of the plotlines, and wonder about the specific alternate reality of this world where everyone knows famous teen detectives. We also talk about the medium of comic books and how the storytelling is different, the uncertain nature of issue runs, and how we’re talking about a very visual medium on a very auditory podcast. Katy cares about our social media, Carrie gets jealous of a blazer, Maddy gasped while reading, and Mack had to Google British slang. We also discuss the impermanence of our consumerism-driven world, confirm we don’t feel bad when corporations are stolen from, debate what exactly constitutes an 18-bird roast, and learn what not to do when waking up in a hospital. Listen to hear about grocery store crushes, getting trapped in a skate bowl, childhood comic drawings, and a great Halloween witch impression. Plus one of us gets a Happy Meal delivery in the middle of recording! Enjoy!


TW: Police


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Recommended Comic Series/Runs We’ve Liked:

The Sandman by Neil Gaiman, Hawkeye by Matt Fraction and David Aja, The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl by Ryan North and Erica Henderson, Watchmen by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons, Lore Olympus by Rachel Smythe, Saga by Brian K. Vaughan and Fiona Staples, Wicked Things by John Allison and Max Sarin, Everything Kate Beaton has ever done, Ms Marvel by G. Willow Wilson, Captain America by Ed Brubaker, Lumberjanes by by Shannon Watters, Grace Ellis, Gus Allen, and ND Stevenson, Reckless by Ed Brubaker and Sean Phillips, Bloom by Kevin Panetta

Sep 20, 202201:15:08
Veronica Mars, "Pilot"

Veronica Mars, "Pilot"

New episode out now! We enter the quippy, extremely 2000’s world of Veronica Mars right at the beginning with the pilot episode. We cover the “Nancy Drew meets Philip Marlowe” of it all, how the show utilizes PI tropes (or PI-ness, if you will) but gives them a fresher look with a cynical teenage protagonist in modern-day Southern California. We get into some of the more problematic storylines and decisions, and discuss some of the moral ambiguity this show presents. We also marvel at the list of pretty big guest stars, agree that Kristen Bell is great, and love the relationship between Veronica and her father. Katy is baffled by teenagers, Carrie spell checks hazing graffiti, Maddy misremembers mind-reading storylines, and Mack is apparently on a one-sided first-name basis with Joel McHale. We also praise Maddy’s Snapchat skills and wonder if she could be a TikTok star, try to figure out if houseboats are a viable apocalypse option, wonder how so many teenagers can afford motorcycles, and Mack fully reads Maddy’s mind. Listen to hear us talk about copyright law, three different Robs, haircuts, the Dance of the Seven Veils, and more! PS there are SERIES SPOILERS - timestamps below!


TW: Sexual assault, date rape, dismissive and abusive police practices, teen drug use

Spoiler Timestamps: 32:52-34:02, 34:21-37:04, and 39:41-41:26. 

Aug 30, 202201:17:10
Ripper Street, "I Need Light"

Ripper Street, "I Need Light"

New episode out now! We watched the pilot episode of Ripper Street, “I Need Light”, and dig into the ins and outs of Victorian crime once again. We discuss the wonderfully detailed world-building, from the great costumes, to the period-specific dialogue and parlance, to the masses of set dressing that give a lived-in feeling. We talk about how it’s interesting that the show begins in the aftermath of the Ripper murders, but then makes it clear they’re not influencing the way the detectives run things. We also think the actors all do wonderful work with these seemingly archetypal yet complex characters, and debate whether the detective methods feel true to the period. Katy gets really into ephemera, Carrie loves Brendan Fraser, Maddy comes up with an amazing new name for a type of facial hair, and Mack gives a short lesson on early film—among other things. We also talk about the Tiffany Problem, wonder what laws undercover cops can get away with breaking, dunk on Thomas Edison, and decide which topics we could give a five minute speech on with no warning. Listen to hear us cover famous Homers, traumatically embarrassing school stories, Hussars, and frosted flakes. And remember - always turn down Turkish delight! Enjoy!


TW: Corpse mutilation, snuff films, sex work, porn

Aug 09, 202201:18:57
The Big Lebowski (1998)

The Big Lebowski (1998)

New episode up now, man! We watched The Big Lebowski and started right in with quoting this cult classic. We discussed the character of The Dude and his place in the story, as well as examining the other very Coen-y characters that fill out The Dude’s world. We get into the complications of Walter’s personality and the military industrial complex, Donny’s enigmatic qualities, and how framing the movie with The Stranger‘s voiceover allows this to be just one of many odd stories in The Dude’s life. We also discover some surprising similarities with Phillip Marlowe, as well as try to follow the many different plotlines and mysteries that overlap while The Dude is along for the ride. Katy was again influenced by Empire Magazine, Carrie hates limo people, Maddy tells a story about a bath disaster, and Mack wants to assault a child. We also stress the importance of following the money to understand motivation, think The Dude would totally be into ASMR, come up with a cool business-type card idea, and fully agree that a good rug really ties a room together. Listen to hear us talk about marmots, sex robots, George Clooney, gross bathrooms, and more! Like, right on, man!

TW: US Military industrial complex and recruitment, PTSD, Vietnam, porn industry, toe and ear harm

Jul 20, 202201:25:34
The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency

The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency

New episode out now! We watched the pilot episode/movie of The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency. We discuss the unique challenges Precious faces in opening her detective business, think that the characters all feel fleshed out despite some initial stereotyping, and love that the entire series was shot on location in Botswana. We get into how this is less a ‘murder mystery’ series with a body-of-the-week and more of a detective helping the commity and cleverly taking advantage of being underestimated. We also praise the excellent costume design but share apprehensions about the fact that the writer/screenwriters/director are all white British men. Katy loves a school play, Carrie critiques typewriter practices, Maddy had nothing to roast, and Mack shares his struggles as a straight white man. We also discuss the different experiences one can have based on gender and age, postulate on what kind of national health services exist in Botswana, and love the delightful little touches of humor scattered throughout. Listen for our thoughts on cringy seduction attempts, buying perfume, and how 2008 it was! Enjoy!

TW: Fatphobia, racism, homophobia, domestic abuse, pregnancy loss, discussion of the effects of colonization

Jun 28, 202201:13:25
The Kid Detective (2020)

The Kid Detective (2020)

New episode up now! We watched the 2020 film The Kid Detective starring Adam Brody and wow—everyone in this movie needs therapy. We discuss the clear themes of trauma and depression that thread throughout, love the use of cinematography and music to aid the storytelling, are surprised by how dark the movie gets, and talk about the expectations vs reality of both Abe Applebaum and the town of Willowbrook. Is Abe actually a good detective or is he just somewhat observant, good at psychology, and watched too many detective shows? We also get into the odd nostalgia of the film’s flashbacks, where it's not quite clear what time period the “kid” detective grew up in but stylistically it could vary between the 1950s and the 1980s and we ponder on what that might mean. Katy is tired of movies showing depressed men peeing, Carrie admits to watching black and white films, Maddy enjoys smooth jazz, and Mack shows off his bottle cap collection. We argue about bathroom mirror placement, get anxious about hiding in closets, and wonder - why are Gen Z teens so into Pong? We also talk about cute gang names, young Vincent Price, and the nutritional aspects of ice cream. Give it a listen and you’ll hear some delightful tunes as well!

TW: Statutory rape, teen pregnancy, racism, depression

SHOW NOTES/CORRECTIONS:

Jun 07, 202201:21:44
Death Comes to Pemberley (2013)

Death Comes to Pemberley (2013)

New episode out now! We explore the world of Jane Austen with the 2013 miniseries Death Comes to Pemberley, based on the 2011 novel of the same name. We get into the disjointed feeling we felt while watching and try to figure out what this adaptation was really trying to be - a murder mystery with Austen characters or Austen fanservice with a background murder? A romance? A courtroom drama? All of the above? We discuss how this portrayed familiar characters and whether or not they felt true to the originals, get annoyed by Wickham continually escaping the consequences of his actions, wonder why they needed a single odd sex scene, and get grossed out by sketchy cousin marriage proposals. We also get into how the characters manipulated evidence to back their version of events, and discuss the class divide in this era, especially between the Darcy family and their staff and servants. Katy is a horse girl on rare occasions, Carrie really does love a library, Maddy has an excellent vocabulary, and Mack minds his own business. We also hate on some ugly wigs, discuss historical hysteria treatments, reveal some childhood invasions of privacy, get mad at toxic masculinity, and debate definitions of fanfiction vs. pastiche⁠—as well as reveal some of our own forays into writing! Maddy does multiple accents and we all are annoyed at Lydia - it’s a treat! Give it a listen!

(Note: Carrie’s audio is a bit off in the beginning and we apologize for that- it has been corrected as much as possible.)

TW: Incest, suicide

Show Notes:

Article - 10 extraordinary Native American cultural sites protected on public lands

May 17, 202201:26:57
Hitman 3 Level 2, "Death in the Family"

Hitman 3 Level 2, "Death in the Family"

New episode out now! We did something a little different this time - we played a video game! We played Hitman 3 Level 2, “Death in the Family”, where we had the opportunity to impersonate a PI and solve a murder mystery in a traditional English country manor. We compare our different strategies of gathering clues and interviewing suspects, get absolutely delighted by the efficiency of one of our approaches to the task, learn about all the different ways you can assassinate someone, and lament our lack of video game skills. We also discuss the confusing layout of these giant English houses, wonder if gossip is the best tool to solve crimes, and debate the appeal of a game where you have to hide all the time - is it worth the stress? Katy has problems with pronunciation, Carrie steals a Fabergé egg, Maddy is very good at avoiding people, and Mack has a problem with billionaires. We also wonder when spies use the restroom, discuss the flaws in having to one-up villains in serialized entertainment, praise the wonders of YouTube walkthroughs, and all get jealous of the screaming room. Two of us make the same Friends reference at the same time, and all of us try to imitate Agent 47 with varying results. Listen and enjoy!

TW: Incest, suicide, casual discussion of murder

Apr 27, 202201:16:08
Columbo, "Lovely But Lethal"

Columbo, "Lovely But Lethal"

New episode out now! We finally cover one of TV’s greatest crime-solvers⁠—Columbo! We watched the season three episode titled “Lovely But Lethal” and get into this ‘70s (and ‘90s) era sleuth. We discuss our initial feelings about the man himself, point out how bothersome he seems when you first watch the show, and debate how effective his methods actually are. We come up with Columbo’s-wife-theories, dig the ‘70s fashion, and wonder if Columbo is actually an incidental character in his own show. We also talk about the changing landscapes of cop shows and how while Columbo catches intelligent murderers by essentially breaking them down and catching them in a lie, modern shows need more evidence-based buildup that would hold up in the courts. Katy basically gives a lecture, Carrie does an impression of Thomas Mitchell,  Maddy shares cool medicinal facts, and Mack starts a new support group. We talk about the confusing history of the show’s run, wish we could see Columbo at a farmer’s market, and all try Columbo accents with varying success. We also rip on BBC Sherlock, love Vincent Price, and learn about wigs. Give it a listen to hear more!


Oh, and just one more thing….Enjoy!


TW: ageism, fatphobia

Apr 05, 202201:27:28
Murdoch Mysteries, "Raised on Robbery"

Murdoch Mysteries, "Raised on Robbery"

New episode out now! We visit the Great White North with an episode of Murdoch Mysteries, season nine’s “Raised on Robbery”. We debate whether the blatant anachronisms are charming or terrible, try to unravel the unnecessarily complicated robbery plot, and have some unflattering observations about the writing, acting, and editing. We also discuss the odd cleanliness of the sets, speculate about what other wild inventions Murdoch may have come up with, and get confused about the character relationships. (We did like the theme song…) Katy gets her serial killers mixed up, Carrie gets very, very salty, Maddy almost felt a feeling, and Mack practices his “NPC talks to police” voice. We also discuss the viability of baby whistles, come up with better robbery plans, learn about the Napoleon of Crime, and share a number of ways to call something “bland”. Two of us get real spicy about their dislike of this show, and one of us tries to defend it—with limited capacity to do so. Give it a listen to hear who is who! The sibling vibes are strong in this one! (We would also like to apologize to Canada - we know the show is beloved by many but we gotta be true to ourselves). Enjoy!

TW: Child endangerment, orphaning

NOTES:

  • Katy was wrong about the rocket ship details - someone else came up with it and Murdoch just had to figure stuff out after the ship was discovered. It’s S9E5 “24 Hours Til Doomsday”.
  • The book Mack is referring to about Adam Worth is The Napoleon of Crime: The Life and Times of Adam Worth, Master Thief by Ben Macintyre


Mar 15, 202201:10:06
Kiss Me Deadly (1955)
Feb 23, 202201:21:14
The Last of Sheila (1973)

The Last of Sheila (1973)

New episode out now! We watched the 1973 whodunit film The Last of Sheila, and listeners, this movie has LAYERS. We discuss the journey of watching the film and thinking we knew where it was going, only to discover there was another twist or reveal that proved we were wrong. We get into the confusing experience we had watching it but how it all settles and fits in perfectly by the end, realize that every little detail is there on purpose, praise the stellar cast and writing, lament some of the character reactions to depraved secrets, and learn understandably bleak things about 1970s cinema. Katy does love a toast rack, Carrie can’t find her bird scissors, Maddy busts out three separate accents in her excitement, and Mack planned his own murder mystery party. We also discuss historical queer terminology and representations, get mad about slurs but especially ones using food, learn we know very little about 1970s ice picks, and serenade you with an iconic song from the 2000s. Listen to find out why this movie is an ogre!

Please note: We did record this before Stephen Sondheim died, which is why we don’t talk about his death.

TW: Child molestation, child molestation by a religous authority, death by suicide, alcoholism, minor gore, ethnic slur discussion focusing on Italians

Feb 01, 202201:23:19
LOST, "Exposé"
Jan 12, 202201:13:15
Casemas 2: Electric Boogaloo, Week Four

Casemas 2: Electric Boogaloo, Week Four

New episode out NOW! We’re shaking things up for the month of December! It’s the last of four brand new episodes along the same theme: the game Crack the Case. It’s Casemas 2: Electric Boogaloo!

Crack the Case is a Milton Bradley party game that came out in 1993 where players ask yes or no questions in order to solve a mystery. We’re putting our detective skills to the test!

Mack hosts week four, where we talk about obsolete retail chains, give practical advice on handling large birds, and decide who we would be in the Garfield Universe. Katy explains Buffy metaphors, Carrie shares facts she learned from Letterkenny, Maddy sings an old church hymn, and Mack does some method voice acting. We also share an announcement about next year’s schedule; be sure to listen to the very end!

Give it a listen! Let us know if YOU solve it before we do!

Dec 28, 202129:05
Casemas 2: Electric Boogaloo, Week Three

Casemas 2: Electric Boogaloo, Week Three

New episode out NOW! We’re shaking things up for the month of December. It’s the third of four brand new episodes along the same theme: the game Crack the Case. It’s Casemas 2: Electric Boogaloo!

Crack the Case is a Milton Bradley party game that came out in 1993 where players ask yes or no questions in order to solve a mystery. We’re putting our detective skills to the test!

Maddy hosts week three, where we discuss confusing plane crashes, vampires, reindeer feeding tips, and setting farts on fire. Katy lists a disappointingly short list of mythologies for someone who took a whole mythology class, Carrie unfortunately has an excellent memory, Maddy channels her inner newscaster, and Mack gets creative with names. Only one round of accent attempts in this one!

Give it a listen! Let us know if YOU solve it before we do!

Dec 21, 202122:60
Casemas 2: Electric Boogaloo, Week Two

Casemas 2: Electric Boogaloo, Week Two

New episode out NOW! We’re shaking things up for the month of December! It’s the second of four brand new episodes along the same theme: the game Crack the Case. It’s Casemas 2: Electric Boogaloo!

Crack the Case is a Milton Bradley party game that came out in 1993 where players ask yes or no questions in order to solve a mystery. We’re putting our detective skills to the test!

Carrie hosts this aggressively accent-heavy week two, where we talk about expensive habits, guess random Halloween costumes, and do multiple impressions. Katy is bummed by hate for National Treasure, Carrie complains about her adorable dimples, Maddy will not be happy anymore, and Mack reads the IMDb from 1993.

Give it a listen! Let us know if YOU solve it before we do!

Dec 14, 202130:45
Casemas 2: Electric Boogalo, Week One

Casemas 2: Electric Boogalo, Week One

New episode out NOW! We’re shaking things up for the month of December! For the next four weeks you’ll get a brand new episode along the same theme: the game Crack the Case. It’s Casemas 2: Electric Boogaloo!

Crack the Case is a Milton Bradley party game that came out in 1993, where players ask yes or no questions in order to solve a mystery. We’re putting our detective skills to the test!

Katy hosts week one, where we talk about how time works, a weird crime show trope, and the glories of American insurance systems. Katy shares mostly correct information about Houdini’s death, Carrie brings up Murder She Wrote again, Maddy comes up with a new post-confession penance task, and Mack starts right away with the Christmas rum.

Give it a listen! Let us know if YOU solve it before we do!

TW: Death by suicide, unspecified terminal illness, blasphemy


Show Notes:

Most of Katy’s/Maddy’s/Carrie’s Houdini death info was correct but here it is fully corrected and in more detail (sourced from Wikipedia):

  • October 22nd, 1926, Montreal: In his dressing room at the Princess Theater, Houdini was punched repeatedly in the stomach by Jocelyn Gordon Whitehead after saying his stomach could endure a lot of punches. Houdini performed his show that night in some pain.
  • October 22nd-24th, traveling from Montreal to Detroit: He got worse when traveling and after finally seeing a doctor, he had a fever of 102° and was told he had acute appendicitis. It was advised he should have surgery right away. He did not and kept going.
  • October 24th, 1926, Detroit: Despite feeling terrible with a fever now at 104°, Houdini took the stage at the Garrick Theater. He reportedly collapsed, but was revived and continued the show. He finished and was then immediately hospitalized at Grace Hospital in Detroit.
  • October 31, 1926, Detroit: Harry Houdini died of peritonitis, secondary to a ruptured appendix, at 1:26 p.m. in Room 401 at Grace Hospital, aged 52.

It is technically unclear if the stomach punch caused the death - he could have already been suffering from appendicitis or it could have been agitated by the punches - but ultimately his insurance company concluded his death was due to the dressing-room incident.

Dec 07, 202128:22
Dexter, "Dexter"

Dexter, "Dexter"

New episode out now! We discuss the pilot episode of Dexter, as well as some later parts of the show so mild spoiler warning! We talk about the complicated feelings we have towards the main character and whether we’re supposed to sympathize with him—is he a vigilante? A corrupt serial killer? Is what he does justice? Or is he ultimately wrong in his actions? We also get into the trope of the Neurodiverse Super Detective, bring up issues with causal social relationships and the false faces we wear, and discuss the sociopathy/psychopathy of Dexter via his constant narration. We enjoy the specificity and strengths of the secondary characters, and appreciate the methodical nature of Dexter’s setup and process (if not the action itself). Katy has questions about the yarn budget, Carrie utilizes her bachelor’s degree, Maddy reveals she routinely zones out when Katy speaks, and Mack begins a new segment called Mack’s Hat Corner. We also talk about the gross but accurate depiction of Miami sweat, wonder how civil servants afford beachfront apartments, come up with new ways to handle road rage, and marvel at the pre-pandemic scenes of communal crab feasting. Enjoy!

TW: Serial killers, child abuse and molestation, rape, mental illness, sex work, childhood trauma

Nov 24, 202101:23:19
The Hound of the Baskervilles (1959)

The Hound of the Baskervilles (1959)

New episode out now! We once again enter the world of Sherlock Holmes with 1959’s The Hound of the Baskervilles. We discuss the odd convergence of this classic story with the Hammer Horror treatment, examine how this adaptation portrays Holmes and Watson and how they compare to other versions, and lament the terrible portrayal of women in the film. We also discuss the real-life friendship between Sir Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing, love the little Holmes-specific details Cushing made happen, and have varying opinions about the studio sets and English country manors. Katy shamefully gets an actor name very, very wrong, Carrie reveals how she handles spiders, Maddy loves The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and Mack has strong opinions about horror movie nuns. We also discuss ancient family curses, suspected Time Lords, replacing actors digitally, paying bugs for doing a job, and formative movies we watched as children. And this episode is extra special...because it’s the very first one we recorded while all in the same room! Be sure to listen for our classic banter/interruptions as well as our brilliant impressions which include Scarface, husky puppies, Gimli (twice), and more!

TW: Animal abuse and death, dangers of sex work

Nov 09, 202101:35:59
Only Murders in the Building, Season One

Only Murders in the Building, Season One

New special episode out now! We watched the entire first season of the new show Only Murders in the Building, a mystery-comedy starring Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez. So spoiler warning! We discuss the incredible chemistry between the three leads, admire how the show deconstructs and examines the true crime podcast craze, and follow a lot of threads that lead to red herrings. We praise the performances of the whole cast, with some surprising guests making particularly uncharacteristic and excellent turns. We also have some questions about the podcast production portrayed in the show, wonder if law enforcement is fed up with true crime armchair sleuths, love the production design and authentic New York City feel, and rave about a high concept episode that really opened the story up. Katy casually perused condos on the Upper West Side, Carrie has never seen Happy Days, Maddy relives one of the worst things that ever happened to her, and Mack thinks grave robbing isn't always terrible. We also love a secret door, wish there were more musicals with pools, wonder if the Fonz was ever accused of murder, discuss current (and previous) plans for our bodies after death, and one of us recreates a drink from the show! Give it a listen!

TW: Suicide references, Armenian genocide, animal death, animal harm

Oct 26, 202101:52:59
Marcella, Episode 1

Marcella, Episode 1

New episode out now! We watched the pilot episode of Marcella, the British noir/drama with a very Nordic feel. We talked extensively about the main character and her issues, discussed how the show is simultaneously challenging gender roles but also feels a bit backwards, get grossed out by the graphic nature of the serial killer’s process, and wonder whether murder walls are actually helpful in real life or just visuals to help the viewer. We also discuss the portrayal of modern sex work, think there are some weird rich family vibes, and believe Rav to be too perfect looking to be a human. Katy hates luxury London skyrises, Carrie is a ghost, Maddy tells a delightful Tinder story, and Mack shares advantages to having three older sisters before telling an awful pun. We also boil down the top four things you need to know about a person to know their character, make a guess at how the British prison system works, think that serial killing is a bit rude, and share a surprising amount of off-the-cuff facts about London architecture. Give it a listen!

TW: domestic abuse, gruesome murders

Show Notes:

Oct 12, 202101:09:47
Pushing Daisies, "Smell of Success"

Pushing Daisies, "Smell of Success"

New episode out now! We cover the delightfully macabre storybook world of Pushing Daisies in the season one episode “Smell of Success”. We discuss the memorable and stylized worldbuilding created by Bryan Fuller, share a love of (almost) every character and their specific and/or oddball traits, talk about how the show approaches death in a whimsical manner, rave about the gorgeous, colorful, and expensive production design, and realize that a number characters are dealing with parental trauma. We also praise the casting of great character actors, as well as put forth that the show would probably thrive better on streaming today, and then discuss whether we would want it to come back at this point in time. Katy gets her TGIF shows mixed up, Carrie drops some Esther Williams knowledge, Maddy shares Jello-related horror stories, and Mack gets upset about another body odor discussion. We talk about proper branding of your synchronized swimming duo, quote the show’s quippy wordplay to each other, have a short Marvel Minute, and discuss our favorite smells—but not too much, as we’ve concluded that people who are too into smells are creepy. We praise Jim Dale and also ask a number of questions about the mythology of the show that go unanswered. And one of us gets a joke 12 years after they heard it! Listen to find out who!

TW: Macabre humor

Show Notes/Sources

Sep 29, 202101:26:19