Not Your Average GOAT

In this interview, Emmy Award-winner Dan Watt joins Teisha for an exciting and heartfelt conversation about his journey from dancer to director, producer, and documentary filmmaker–and all the pivots and setbacks in between. We begin by exploring Dan’s love for performance, recalling childhood memories of putting on neighborhood shows, learning ballroom dance in his parents’ basement, and having his natural rhythm discovered by his dance teacher during a freshman talent show—early experiences that planted the seeds for his future in the arts. Next, we dive into the depths of his incredible career, including the early challenges he faced such as fierce competition and personal rejection like being told he was “too masculine” for a Janet Jackson video; his transition to director in which he choreographed 100+ sold-out performances like Annie and Foot Loose, and worked to increase access of lesser known productions by bringing them to the L.A. market where they became unexpected hits; and his break into TV and film in which he spent 10 years working with Columbia Pictures and Simon Cowell realizing the value of transferable skills and age-based wisdom–but not before he experienced a discriminating rejection by the Dr. Phill Show. Then, we zoom in on his greatest challenge—and most rewarding project—producing the Emmy Award-winning documentary, Everybody Dance, a film that follows children with disabilities who find joy and empowerment through dance; discuss how spending 10 months filming these families profoundly changed Dan forever, opening his eyes to the daily challenges these kids face and the incredible strength and resilience they show; and highlight how the experience deepened his understanding of disability inclusion and inspired him to continue creating projects that give a voice to underrepresented communities. Packed with humor, insight, and real-life lessons on overcoming adversity, this episode is a must-listen for anyone passionate about storytelling, the arts, and making a difference. Resources: Everybody Dance Dan Watt on Instagram Dan Watt on Threads Please consider subscribing to the show, leaving a 5-star rating and supporting us on Patreon.

From his roots in the Longsdale housing projects of Knoxville, TN to obtaining his Ph.D and championing educational equity, Dr. Bryan Samuel's journey is a testament to the transformative power of perseverance.  Bryan and I dive into his childhood and the experiences he had growing up in poverty, his health challenges including prone-belly syndrome,  an incarcerated father, and the numerous resulting obstacles he faced–including the heartbreaking Christmas of 1978 when he received no presents and a greuling four-mile walk to school every day no matter the weather. Despite these hardships, Bryan was determined to pursue higher education, but would end up having to overcome a punishing ACT score of 12, academic probation during under-grad, and five rejections from Doctoral programs because discriminating admissions officers claimed he would never be able to write a dissertation–that is, until he squashed their skepticism by presenting a briefcase with dozens of A+ research papers. We then explore Bryan's 30-year career in higher education, marked by his dedication to helping students overcome similar barriers. He shares inspiring stories of his impact, like assisting NFL quarterback Ben Roethlisberger in completing his degree by challenging rigid residency requirements, and helping a student obtain a degree in a program they weren't officially admitted to due to GPA restrictions, showcasing his commitment to looking beyond traditional metrics. Now a leader in diversity and inclusion, Bryan's mission is to increase educational access for all students, including those with disabilities or from disadvantaged backgrounds. Throughout, we emphasize the importance of flexible policies and recognizing diverse perspectives in higher education. Bryan’s story is a powerful reminder that personal struggles can fuel a passion for creating equitable opportunities, making this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in the life-changing potential of education and the impact of unwavering determination. Resources: Finding Myself: A Journey from the Projects to the Ph.D Please consider subscribing to the show, leaving a 5-star review and supporting us on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/notyouraveragegoat

“I lost my sight, but I gained vision.”This week, I sat down with Lonnie Bedwell to explore his extraordinary journey from military veteran to motivational speaker–with a life-changing accident sandwiched in between.We dive into Lonnie’s free-spirited childhood and experiences as a Navy Petty Officer; recount the tragic hunting accident that led to his sudden loss of sight in 1997, an experience that turned his world upside down and dropped him into a pit of depression, and navigate his journey to rediscovering his value and abilities through a fierce five-year-old girl and a lawn mower; explore the thrilling passion and purpose he found in extreme adaptive sports like rock climbing, highlight the daring kayaking expedition through the Grand Canyon that led him to becoming the first blind person to navigate the treacherous Colorado River and be named National Geographic’s 2015 Adventurer of the Year, and spotlight his complementary award-winning memoir “226”; and dive into his proudest feat of raising three daughters as a single father–teaching them all to drive, hunt and play baseball.Throughout, we discuss resilience, the power of community, and the importance of finding new purposes in life. Lonnie’s story is a compelling reminder that even the toughest challenges can be met with courage and determination. Resources: 226: How I Became the First Blind Person to Kayak the Grand Canyon Book Lonnie for a speaking engagement Follow Lonnie on Facebook Please consider supporting us by subscribing to the show, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and becoming a patron on Patreon by visiting https://www.patreon.com/notyouraveragegoat

This week, Teisha sits down with Elle Billing, a chronically ill artist and former educator, to illuminate all the invisible disabilities and health conditions through a witty and gritty conversation. We dive into Elle’s childhood, including her experiences with hyperlexia, anxiety, and vivid nightmares; highlight the medical misogyny she faced over the years, recount her experiences with Alice in Wonderland Syndrome and explore her journey to finally receiving a proper diagnosis years after a 23-day non-stop migraine attack in 2013; talk about her 13-year career teaching at a school for the Deaf, emphasizing the remarkable language flexibility and adaptability of her students; and explore Elle’s life as a chronic pain sufferer, and discuss the stigma and misconceptions surrounding addiction and pain management. Additionally, Elle and I challenge the complexities of disability representation in the media, illuminating the tendency to portray disabled individuals as either superhuman or lacking agency and advocate for more nuanced and authentic portrayals. Throughout, we showcase the creativity and resilience of people with disabilities and chronic illnesses with the hope of fostering a more inclusive and understanding society. Resources: Check out Hoorf podcast at https://www.elleandwink.com/podcast/#hoorf Please consider supporting us by subscribing to the show, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and becoming a patron on Patreon by visiting https://www.patreon.com/notyouraveragegoat

Megan Devito is not just a former educator and host of the More Than Anxiety podcast; she’s a badass woman whose overcome hypervigilance and is now empowering others to become the master of their own minds. In this episode, Megan opens up about her lifelong struggle with anxiety, which started when she was just eight years old. She shares how this challenge shaped her decisions and kept her close to her supportive family in her small Indiana hometown. Megan also dives deep into her teaching days, where she worked with high school students experiencing at-risk situations. She provides a candid look at the emotional and practical challenges of helping these kids navigate their complex lives, sharing stories that highlight their resilience and the impact of dedicated educators. Today, Megan channels her passion for helping others into her work as a coach. She explains how her experiences with anxiety and teaching have informed her approach, emphasizing the importance of mental health awareness and personal growth. This episode is a compelling mix of personal anecdotes and professional insights, offering listeners a heartfelt and inspiring narrative. Tune in to hear Megan’s journey and the valuable lessons she’s learned along the way. You can find Megan on Instagram and Threads @CoachMeganDevito or over at the More Than Anxiety podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-than-anxiety/id1644101257 Please consider supporting us by subscribing to the show, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and becoming a patron on Patreon by visiting https://www.patreon.com/notyouraveragegoat

In this intimate conversation, Teisha sits down with Kaesevyn, a multi-talented rapper, songwriter, and producer, to dive into his extraordinary musical journey. Kaesevyn candidly shares the challenges he faced growing up, the loss of loved ones, and the battles with depression and addiction that shaped his artistry; Opens up about his father’s passing and how it ignited his passion for music, transforming his grief into a powerful creative force; discuss his latest album, “Underground Heart,” a cathartic release that delves into the depths of his emotions and experiences; and take a journey through his raw and vulnerable lyrics to unpack love, tragedy and the human experience. Throughout, Kaesevyn walks us through the unique challenges musicians like him face in the show biz world, including the conflict of balancing authenticity with fame, combatting introversion and imposture syndrome, and overcoming racial barriers. His story is a testament to the power of music as a healing force and the importance of embracing vulnerability in the pursuit of artistic expression. Please consider supporting us by subscribing to the show, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and becoming a patron on Patreon by visiting https://www.patreon.com/notyouraveragegoat Resources: Underground Heart: https://share.amuse.io/fCgXSfqqrLLo

In part two of this episode, Tricia opens up about the joys and challenges of raising her son, Robert, who manages multiple conditions and disabilities, including dyslexia, tourrettes, bipolar disorder and more; shares the emotional rollercoaster of his medical journey, from misdiagnoses to breakthroughs; and discusses how his experiences have shaped their family. Then, we dive into Tricia’s own experience with vision loss due to retinitis pigmentosa (RP), a genetic condition affecting multiple members of her family; illustrate how despite the obstacles, Tricia's resilience and determination led her to launch Blind Girl Designs, a fashion company celebrating and empowering the visually disabled community; and explore the unique design process she's developed, relying on her mind's eye and tactile techniques to create beautiful and functional products. Throughout, Tricia's story showcases the power of perseverance, adaptability, and the unwavering love between a mother and her son. Please consider supporting us by subscribing to the show, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and becoming a patron on Patreon by visiting https://www.patreon.com/notyouraveragegoat

Tricia Waechter is not just the CEO of a fashion design company, she is also a woman of many passions and unwavering resilience. In part one of this episode, Teisha explores  the boundless creative that was young Tricia, from her early days crafting plays for her five siblings to the unique adventures she experienced moving all over the mid-west; dive into the tragic turn when she lost her beloved brother to suicide, and how this devastating experience ignited a fire within her to advocate for mental health awareness and support; unravel Trisha's unconventional career path from a department store jewelry merchandiser to a high-end buyer who traveled the globe in search of exquisite treasures; and set the stage for another surprise thrown Trisha’s way in 1996 – navigating motherhood with a child managing multiple special needs. Throughout, Trisha's story reminds us that life's path may not always be linear, but it is in the twists and turns that we discover our true purpose and find the courage to embrace the unexpected. Please consider supporting us by subscribing to the show, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and becoming a patron on Patreon by visiting https://www.patreon.com/notyouraveragegoat

In this compelling episode, Teisha sits down with Cait West, author of the powerful new memoir, Rift, which details her experiences growing up among religious trauma and Christian patriarchy. We dive into her childhood, including the impact of intentional isolation, frequent relocations and a homeschooling lifestyle; her authoritarian upbringing and the stringent rules that guided her every move; and her “stay-at-home daughter” grooming, which required her to remain under her father’s authority while practicing to become a submissive wife and mother–a role she assumed far beyond the age of 18. Then, we explore the emotional complexities of Cait’s relationship with her father, who despite being the source of many restrictions, was also someone she sought approval from; discuss the cult-like courtship ritual she was subjected to and the brainwashing about intimacy and emotions embedded into her; dive into the events that shaped her path to eventual self-discovery; and highlight the journey of bringing her story to life through her new memoir and the power she hopes it has for illuminating female oppression in the Christian patriarchy. Throughout, Cait’s journey illustrates that while religious trauma can take a psychological and emotional toll on you, it’s possible to realize freedom and discover your individuality. Please consider supporting us by subscribing to the show, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and becoming a patron on Patreon by visiting https://www.patreon.com/notyouraveragegoat Resources: Rift: A Memoir of Breaking Away from Christian Patriarchy In Rift, Cait West tells a harrowing story of chaos and control hidden beneath the facade of a happy family. Weaving together lyrical meditations on the geology of the places her family lived with her story of spiritual and emotional manipulation as a stay-at-home daughter, Cait creates a stirring portrait of one young woman’s growing awareness that she is experiencing abuse. With the ground shifting beneath her feet, Cait mustered the courage to break free from all she’d ever known and choose a future of her own making. ⁠Tears of Eden At Tears of Eden, we seek to empower survivors to connect with their own agency to pursue the healing process from Spiritual Abuse. Tears facilitates connection to other survivors and provides language and resources to name the experience of Spiritual Abuse.

The season three line-up of stories feature a slew of incredible personal journeys showcasing resilience, inspiration and stigma fighting at their best. Check out this preview and get ready to tune into the full episodes this June.

Our season three stories showcase a wide range of personal adversities. Check out this preview and get ready to tune in to the full episodes this summer.

We're gearing up for an exciting season 3, but we still have so many incredible stories from last season to celebrate! Check out 8 of Teisha's favorite moments from season 2, and if you haven't already, be sure to tune into the full episodes. Please consider supporting us by subscribing to the show, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and becoming a patron on Patreon by visiting https://www.patreon.com/notyouraveragegoat

In the second half of this conversation, we explore the challenges couples face trying to merge "baggage," including what it's like learning to fight and the stigma that still encases couple's therapy, and dive into the accident that left Wallace with a spinal cord injury (SCI) at 19 as well as that helped him discover an undiagnosed learning disability and veer him away from a destructive lifestyle. Then, we jump into all things T6Talk, the volunteer initiative started by the Earle's in 2021 to dispel disability myths, and provide resources and share stories on everything from sexual and mental health to accessible living and parenting. We talk about their driving motivators for beginning T6Talk, poke holes in the assumption that all disabled people are asexual, get a glimpse into Melanie's and Wallace's personal experiences navigating sex and SCI, and shed light on the issues surrounding healthcare equity and reproductive rights in the disability community. Please consider supporting us by subscribing to the show, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and becoming a patron on Patreon by visiting https://www.patreon.com/notyouraveragegoat

Melanie and Wallace Earle are making an incredible splash with their initiative T6Talk, but they’re making even more incredible waives with their vulnerable straight talk about everything from sexuality to mental health, and fearlessly challenging stigma and dispelling myths. In part 1 of this episode, we dive into childhoods, including Melanie’s journey figuring out what it meant to be feminine, her shame about having a high libido, and an internal struggle with depression amidst a “privileged” upbringing; Wallace’s Physically and emotionally abusive upbringing, the impact of his then unknown ADHD diagnosis, and his decision to distance himself from his birth name; and all three of our experiences with sexual abuse. Then, we explore Melanie’s and Wallace’s incredible origin story, including the multiple dotted lines that connected their lives for over 20 years; what it was like navigating online dating and meeting later in life; and how age and disability status fueled their relationship dynamic.

In the second half of this conversation, Leeann opens up about her 10-year journey managing postpartum depression, including her struggle with suicidal thoughts, the impact the pandemic had on her mental health, and the myths and misconceptions that exist around mothers experiencing postpartum depression. Then, we dive into her healing journey and explore what motivated her to take the first step, her decision to become a life coach so quickly into her own recovery, and talk about the immense impact vulnerability can have on helping to inspire the world through relatable and authentic stories.

A genuine empath by nature, it’s no wonder that once Leeann Romig found her own glimmer of hope, she immediately sought to become that glimmer for others. In part 1 of this conversation, Leeann opens up about her life-long struggle with weight, including bullying attention she received from other children as a result of her early on-set puberty and inherited metabolic disorder; talks about the depression and anxiety she experienced following her parents’ divorce at 12, as well as the prejudice she endured being part of a now “broken” working-class family in a wealthy town; and shares what it was like trying to navigate her pivotal teen years amidst the entrance and exit of multiple “father figures” and an unwelcoming relocation away from all she knew. Then, we dive into some of the traumatic circumstances surrounding her first marriage, including the physical and emotional abuse she quietly took while mistaking it as love, as well as two unintended attempts for children that resulted in in an ectopic pregnancy and miscarriage; explore how she came to find her now husband Michael and the transformative change she took from not wanting kids to craving motherhood; and set the stage for her dark 10-year journey battling post-partum depression.

We’re back with part 2 of Chad’s incredible story. If you haven’t listened to the first half yet, head over to part 1. In the second half of this conversation, Chad and I dive into the deep depression that sent him into a suicidal state, explore his healing journey, and talk about how he made it to positively “going all in on his disability”; discuss the challenges he faced trying to obtain his first job as a blind person, the unexpected pivot his career path took as a result of the pandemic, and the importance of accessibility in the gaming world and how he leveraged his video game passion to propel forward; and highlight the critical role disability exposure and representation play in shaping personal identities and societal stigma. Resources South Eastern Guide Dogs Our dogs form unbreakable bonds with their guardians. They turn darkness into light for people with vision loss. They restore freedom for veterans who’ve sacrificed for ours. And they heal the broken hearts of children struggling with loss. Adapt-IT are suppliers of assistive technology, including, specialist computer equipment, software, and services. Do you have difficulties using your computer because of a physical or neurological condition? We can help you find the right product to allow adults and children to use technology in the most efficient and comfortable way. Whether you or somebody you know: Uses a mobility aid Is a person with sight or hearing loss Has a neurological diagnosis Repetitive Strain InjuryWe can help you to choose a suitable: Keyboard Mouse Control device Support or other equipment to improve your well-being. Adapt-IT

Once naive to the true impact of his incurable, regressive disability, Chad Bouton would end up facing a turbulent storm of self-hatred before eventually finding calm and unwavering pride in himself. In part 1 of this conversation, Chad and I talk about what it was like growing up in a military family, the impact legacy medical technology had on his  misdiagnoses, and the devastating day his mother learned that both of her children had Retinitis Pigmentosa. Then, we dive into the emotional rollercoaster he experienced during his first vision dip at 16; the catastrophic intersection between his visual impairment and OCD plus anxiety; and how his second vision dip in college escalated his negative disability identity to absolute disdain on the verge of suicide.

Since she was a child, Shilpi Kapoor has always been an independent spirit that has defied conformity and taking paths of least resistance. This plus her equally altruistic spirit and drive for universal accessibility, has led her to break barriers of incredible impact. In this conversation, Shilpi talks about what it was like growing up in Mumbai in the 1980's, her struggles with school, and the role her father played in helping to develop her love for coding and technology; opens up about some early entrepreneurial ventures and one of her biggest "failings," a life-changing experience during a data hacking internship that led her to starting a computer training center for the blind, and her pivot to digital accessibility testing and starting the still-thriving BarrierBreak in 2004; and dives into critical dialog on the ubiquity and universality of accessibility, how it shows up everywhere in both the digital and physical world, and the immense benefits it provides to everyone regardless of ability. Throughout, Shilpi illustrates how vital exposure is for changing attitudes and dismantling stigma, the power constant evolution can have on realizing great impact, and why it's so important to not always take the normal path in life. ResourcesBarrierBreak BarrierBreak is the leader in offshore Digital Accessibility testing and consulting based in India, founded in the year 2004 with a strong belief that technology can empower people with disabilities and elderly to live independently. Newz Hook Disability News - media site focusing on Disability Stories and Changing Attitudes towards Disability globally. We highlight disability news, offer inclusive solutions and create accessible collaborations. Our focus is to have Inclusion Champions from across the globe who will share disability stories and news. 247 Accessible Documents The 247 Portal is a versatile platform that offers cost-effective solutions for accessible document remediation and testing to meet Section 508 and ADA compliance. American Association of People with Disabilities The American Association of People with Disabilities works to increase the political and economic power of people with disabilities. As a national disability-led and cross-disability rights organization, AAPD advocates for full civil rights for over 60 million Americans with disabilities. We do this by promoting equal opportunity, economic power, independent living, and political participation. Their scholarship program places students with all types of disabilities in paid summer internships with Congressional offices, federal agencies, nonprofit and for-profit organizations in the Washington, DC area. Newz Hook247 Accessible DocumentsAmerican Association of People with Disabilities

In spite of an unpromising upbringing, three divorces and a bankruptcy, Lisa Curtin’s journey proves that not only is there always a story behind the story, but that reinventing your story along the way is never impossible. In this conversation, Lisa opens up about her childhood, including the role her Lithuanian roots played, a house-wifery grooming, and growing up amongst alcoholism and a lack of encouragement at home; the experiences surrounding her three marriages, including spousal abuse, losing a partner to cancer, and racking up six-figures of debt; and her struggle with shame, embarrassment and people-pleasing throughout her life. Then, we discuss her journey of rising above and the incredible career path she took from police dispatcher, to school principal, to tour director, to now the COO of a very successful public accounting firm; dive into the rewarding, but emotionally taxing, experiences special education teachers face, the regressive impact weekends and summer breaks can have on children with behavioral or mental disabilities, and why it’s so important for the world to show these children empathy; and talk about what it means to create a truly great employee experience, including the mindfulness leaders must have in order to avoid unintentionally setting unattainable expectations. And throughout, Lisa illustrates how powerful it is to just believe in yourself, and seize every opportunity that comes your way, because it might just help you realize even bigger dreams than you ever knew you could achieve. Resources American Business Women’s Association The mission of the American Business Women’s Association is to bring together businesswomen of diverse occupations and to provide opportunities for them to help themselves and others grow personally and professionally through leadership, education, networking support and national recognition. Caldwell CPAs Caldwell CPAs is a skilled, reliable, client-focused certified public accounting firm that can help you manage your business and achieve the highest levels of efficiency and profitability. Based in metropolitan Washington, DC, our clients include individual taxpayers, professionals in the fields of health and law, nonprofit organizations, and small businesses in a variety of industries, including tourism, high-tech, food & beverage, construction and real estate. We’re located close to embassies and multinational organizations in the nation’s capital, allowing us to specialize in addressing the financial challenges faced by foreign nationals working in the United States, as well as companies and citizens working abroad.

Emmanual (Manny) Perez learned early on that zagging vs zigging was the only way to defy the incredible environmental, cultural and neurotypical odds placed against him in order to manifest a journey of happiness and success. In this conversation, Manny and I talk about what it was like growing up in New York in an intensely dangerous neighborhood, watching his older brothers get sucked into crime, and the role rapping played in helping him cope; explore the impact his Puerto Rican roots had on his upbringing, including some of the deeply-engrained oppressive cultural outlooks on succeeding in life; and dive into his life-long struggle with anxiety as well as his overdue diagnosis of ADHD in his 30s, and how confronting his mental health ultimately helped him finally accept himself. Throughout, we illustrate the power of resiliency and being your own cheerleader; the importance of discovering your whole self in order to find peace and acceptance; and why sometimes in life, it’s so crucial to zag when everyone else is zigging. Resources ASPIRA Association The ASPIRA Association promotes the empowerment of the Puerto Rican and Latino community by developing and nurturing the leadership, intellectual, and cultural potential of its youth to contribute with their skills and dedication to the fullest development of the Puerto Rican and Latino community everywhere.

“Who doesn’t care about human rights? We’re all human, right?” – Katrina Dale, MSW This week I sit down with Katrina, a strong Black woman on a mission to positively impact humankind, while continuously working to intentionally grow her awareness and approach to managing autism. In this conversation, Katrina and I dive into what it was like growing up in Michigan, including the militant structure that powered her upbringing, her Black experience being a child of the 90’s, and the impact of having a disabled parent had on her as the oldest sibling; explore her incredible career as a social worker and behavioral health specialist and talk about the power of social impact and the universality of human rights; and dive into her journey living with an invisible disability, including the long road of misdiagnoses and improper treatment, the unsettling intersection between health equity and race/gender, and what it was like discovering that she was autistic in her 30s. Throughout, Katrina illustrates how critical it is to unpack systemic inequities, support and destigmatize those living with autism, and find “some way, somehow, to be impactful.”

“it’s okay to not be okay, but it’s not okay to just do nothing about it, because that’s when you’re going to get yourself into trouble.” – Zach Tidwell In part two of this conversation, Zach and I dive head-first into the traumatic day he attempted to commit suicide; explore what it was like learning about, and adjusting to, his permanent blindness and partial deafness and the unorthodox rehab process he went through; discuss the challenges that surround suicide prevention, including the genetic pre-disposition as well as the “normal” outward look those experiencing deep-rooted depression often times display; and emphasize how powerful being open to talking about your situation can be. Then, we explore the unexpected transition he took from a CNA to a coder; talk about the roadblocks that exist when it comes to digital accessibility; and dive into his journey to publishing his first Apple App Store game, Zanagrams. ResourcesDownload Zanagrams Exercise your brain during your downtime with this new unique twist on word-puzzles you’ve come to know and love. Each puzzle contains six clues you’ll aim to find the one-word answers for. Each answer is broken-up into groups of two or three letters, presented as buttons in the lower portion of your screen, and jumbled for your brain-teasing enjoyment. Try to spell out each of the answers in the puzzle by tapping buttons to add them to your spelling. 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline We can all help prevent suicide. The 988 Lifeline provides 24/7, free and confidential support for people in distress, prevention and crisis resources for you or your loved ones, and best practices for professionals in the United States. Dial 988 and press 1 if you are a veteran in crisis.

Zach Tidwell is many incredible things–from a former Marines machine gunner to an extreme sports athlete to now a published game developer–but not least incredible is his drive, resilience and ability to embrace being uncomfortable head on. In part one of this conversation, Zach and I explore what it was like growing up as a nomadic military brat, the impact of having a younger sister with Down syndrome had on him and his family, and the role wrestling and snowboarding played in developing his passion for extreme sports; explore his life as a Marine, including the exhilarating and high-risk job of being a machine gunner and the two deployments that took him all over Asia and the Pacific; and dive into the traumatic experiences that set him spiraling into deep-rooted depression that climaxed on one tragic night when he put a bullet in his head. Resources Zanagrams Exercise your brain during your downtime with this new unique twist on word-puzzles you’ve come to know and love. Each puzzle contains six clues you’ll aim to find the one-word answers for. Each answer is broken-up into groups of two or three letters, presented as buttons in the lower portion of your screen, and jumbled for your brain-teasing enjoyment. Try to spell out each of the answers in the puzzle by tapping buttons to add them to your spelling. 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline⁠ We can all help prevent suicide. The 988 Lifeline provides 24/7, free and confidential support for people in distress, prevention and crisis resources for you or your loved ones, and best practices for professionals in the United States. Dial 988 and press 1 if you are a veteran in crisis.

Season two officially launches on Aug. 7, and we can't wait for you to experience all the incredible stories we have lined up! This year is especially special because not only do we explore critical topics around suicide, mental health, the "Black Experience," and trauma, but the representation of people living with both visible and invisible disabilities and the advocates who support them, have increased tremendously!

In creating season one of Not Your Average GOAT, I learned a lot about myself, the podcast space, and more importantly, the incredible diversity that is humanity. Here are 10 of my favorite moments from this past season—in no particular order.

Despite being once in the thick valley of alcoholism, Jessica Williams has reached many incredible peeks throughout her life. But even so, she is still on the journey to becoming the person she was always meant to be. In this conversation, Jessica and I explore the detrimental impact of bullying, including her sad yearning for death as a child; the role popularity and ensuing “power” played in Jessica’s high school metamorphosis into a bully herself; and the lack of escapism and emotional safety children today have to deal with as a result of our “always on and with you” digital world. Next, we dive into the thick of Jessica’s alcoholism, including the extremely dangerous alcoholic-incentivized reward system she put in place in college in exchange for a 4.0 GPA; the role promotions and other outward successes played in fueling her discrete “functioning alcoholic” status for years; her journey to sobriety in Jan. 2020, including the multiple rock bottoms she had to hit along the way; and discuss the very sad struggle she and many others face regarding disclosing at the risk of backlash. Then, we talk about Jessica’s tough experiences as a female of color in the workplace; discuss her social impact work through Hidden Gem Career Coaching, a company on the mission to help women of color find upward mobility in their careers; and discuss the immense value of belonging, and tangible steps privileged leaders and organizations can take today to create a true sense of belonging in the workplace. Resources Hidden Gem Career Coaching The Luckiest Club: Sober is better together! Introducing DEI in the Workplace Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov and Serge Quadrado. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

From abusive foster families to violent racism to extreme depression, dark experiences tortured Terrell Jackson for most of his life, but he found a way to turn these trying times into the fuel that powers his dream of promoting, supporting and connecting Black creatives. In this conversation, we explore what life is like as an orphan, including the impact of physical abuse and nepotism; Terrell’s journey traveling from family to family; and struggles with  not feeling “normal” and life-long anxiety. Next, we dive into Terrell’s Air Force career; talk about the immense, racially-charged culture shock he faced moving from California to Florida in the early 90’s; and some near-death attacks and internal squad corruption he faced for being a Black man. Then, we zoom in on the extremely severe depression Terrell fell into during the pandemic, causing him to lose over 60 pounds and his grasp on reality; discuss his journey to crawling out of the darkness; and talk about his initiative with The Color BLCK, and how his mission to increase the representation and promotion of Black talents was ultimately born out of his own dark story. Resources The Color BLCK: Black creatives continue to pave the way in all forms of entertainment and this magazine offers a unique opportunity to display these talents to the black community and beyond. However, black creatives are still underrepresented in many mainstream media outlets. This is why platforms like The Color BLCK were created – to give black content creators a platform to showcase their work. If you’re a black creative looking for an opportunity to share your talents with the world, be sure to check out The Color BLCK website. With its growing community of black creatives, it’s a great place to find new opportunities and connect with like-minded individuals. You can follow Terrell/The Color BLCK on Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn. Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov and Serge Quadrado. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

We’re back with part 2 of Braelyn (Brae) Rasco’s  inspiring story! If you haven’t already, head over to part 1 now to give it a listen. In the second half of this conversation, Brae shares what life was like in the months leading up to her mother’s suicide, including the emotional rollercoaster the day of her mom’s passing; we explore the unique grieving stages suicide survivors experience, as well as Brae’s 12+ year healing journey going from angry and confused to happy and confident; and talk about the unsettling lack of support and immense shame that those on the other side of suicide receive from outsiders. Then, we dive into Brae’s own neuro divergence and struggle with mental health, including anxiety and ADHD; shed light on the plethora of misconceptions that exist around these conditions; and talk about the incredible power of a “keep going” mindset and the importance of self-empathy. Resources 988 Crisis & Suicide Lifeline: We can all help prevent suicide. The Lifeline provides 24/7, free and confidential support for people in distress, prevention and crisis resources for you or your loved ones, and best practices for professionals in the United States. You can text or call 988 anytime and receive support in English or Spanish. Heart Talk: Poetic Wisdom for a Better Life by Cleo Wade Positive Intelligence: Learn more about how we self-sabotage. Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov and Serge Quadrado. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

Braelyn (Brae) Rasco’s animated personality and connection with dance is  proof you can absolutely be the evidence of your loved ones without being the evidence of traumatic circumstance–but Brae will be the first to admit it’s been “one hell of a journey” sorting through all the layers to get here herself. In part 1 of this conversation, we explore Brae’s life-long passion for creativity, including writing, drawing, and the special emotional tether she has to her mom through dance; reflect on each of our “young” memories of the 9/11 tragedy; and discuss Brae’s career in marketing and the incredible—and sometimes detrimental—impact social media has on our lives. Then, we dive into what it was like growing up with a parent suffering from chronic vertigo and some of the regret Brae still holds for not fully understanding the illness back then as well as “shrugging off” unique burdens placed on her; discuss the unfortunate role society and the government played in the early 2000s—and sometimes still plays today—in not supporting people with depression as well as vertigo; and set the stage for Brae’s mother’s tragic suicide. And throughout, we talk about the importance of dreams and how it is NEVER too late to pursue any of your passions, as well as the tremendous power of, and need for, “the conversation” when it comes to mental health. Resources 988 Crisis & Suicide Lifeline: We can all help prevent suicide. The Lifeline provides 24/7, free and confidential support for people in distress, prevention and crisis resources for you or your loved ones, and best practices for professionals in the United States. You can text or call 988 anytime and receive support in English or Spanish. Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov and Serge Quadrado. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

Cultural, religious and familial tensions as well as childhood trauma stunted Noor’s identity for awhile, but through twists and turns, she eventually evolved from inward thinking and meek to out and loud! In this conversation, Noor and I explore what it was like growing up in India in a multi-generational household; discuss the impact Sikhism and the anti-Sikh riots of the 1980’s had on her and her family; and share mutual stories and perspectives about our very tough experiences with sexual abuse as children. Then, we explore the culture shock Noor experienced coming to the U.S. for the first time for her under-grad, as well as the unique experiences she had while attending Oxford University for her M.B.A.; talk about her passion for positively impacting Delhi’s urban slums and the $0.5 million incubation she co-founded to  help improve transportation infrastructure; and dive into her journey to realizing her Gay identity in her 30s and how her long battle with body disassociation prolonged this discovery. And throughout, we explore what it’s like living as an empath and the significant toll that can have on some; the value of shaping your own identity to fit your true self; and how we could all benefit from finding more happiness in the simple things—just like our fur babies. Resources History of Sikhism Asha India: Transforming lives in the slums of Delhi Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov and Serge Quadrado. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

Despite the tremendous hurdles of shame and pain Madeline Ruiz has faced, her passion for empathy has never faded. In this conversation, we explore the magnitude of shame Madeline endured as a Bolivian/Honduran female throughout her childhood and young adulthood—both inside and outside her culture walls—stemming from her “wifery” grooming; a Mormon upbringing; in-school racism and bullying; and pressures and expectations placed on her as a first-generation Hispanic. Then, we dive into her super painful, 12-year battle with two hormonal conditions, including endometriosis and PCOS; her tough experiences being undiagnosed and mis-treated for over a decade; the unsettling lack of care that’s given to female health conditions today, especially by male doctors; and her eventual, life-changing road to “recovery.” And throughout, Madeline exemplifies how crucial it is to think for yourself and challenge “commonly just accepted” philosophies; the immense power therapy, especially culturally-competent therapy, can have on ridding shame; and her long-time love of creativity and commitment to empathy, and how she’s been able to marry these two together in her work as a designer. ** The name of this week's guest has been altered to protect privacy and preserve anonymity. Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov and Serge Quadrado. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

Gaining confidence and finding her own voice is something Chelsea Gilchrist, MGS struggled with for awhile, but once she conquered it, she not only had the courage to speak up for herself, she also became the loud vocals for many older adults who had become voiceless themselves. In this conversation, we talk about what it was like for 14-year-old Chelsea trying to cope with her grandmother’s dementia; some of the regrets she still has today about not fully understanding the disease back then; and many myths and misconceptions that exist about dementia as well as Alzheimer’s today. We also dive into her extraordinary career in the gerontology/aging space. We explore her work in social isolation and falls prevention; touch upon several issues plaguing the aging community today (e.g., poorly managed long-term care facilities, a lack of resources for younger caregivers and the unfortunate reality of many older adults getting separated from their beloved pets despite myriad data illustrating their immense value); and the incredible contributions Chelsea’s made as the volunteer President of the junior board of the D.C. area chapter of the Alzheimer’s Association. Then, we zoom in closely on some of the ironic ageism Chelsea herself has had to face while working in an industry “dedicated” to fighting ageism, and discuss what it means to be a true leader—especially as it relates to women. Resources Older Adult Companionship Human Animal Bond Research Institute (HABRI) Pet Peace of Mind Mars Petcare Generations United The Harry and Jeanette Weinberg Foundation The Eisner Foundation Alzheimer’s and Caregiving Eldercare Locator Alzheimer’s Association If you would like to learn how to get involved with the D.C. area chapter of the Alzheimer’s Association, or send Chelsea a question on anything aging related, you can find her on LinkedIn. Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov and Serge Quadrado. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

We’re back with the second half of Stephan Ringer’s incredible story. In part 2 of this conversation, we travel back to the U.S. with Stephan and his wife and explore what it was like trying to get back on their feet (and almost hitting bankruptcy); the “hard sell” of having kids in today’s world and their experience starting a family; and what it was like learning their son had a developmental delay and trying to navigate a new style of parenting. Then, we dive head-first into the three days surrounding Stephan’s manic period and bipolar diagnosis; talk about his experience while in the mental hospital and what it was like trying to re-integrate into “normal” life; and discuss what it was like realizing his wife was also bipolar and a very difficult, yet necessary, decision Stephan had to make in order to “save” his wife. Threaded throughout this conversation, Stephan talks about the shame and misconceptions surrounding bipolar disorder and neuro divergence, and opens up about personal struggles as well as shares advice and helpful metaphors to try to reassure those who might be “in his shoes.” And at the end, we talk about what it was like for Stephan recently choosing his own mental well-being over work, and the decision to leave his job. Resources Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert M. Pirsig Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov and Serge Quadrado. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

The label “bipolar” is one that Stephan Ringer leans into wholeheartedly, and is what ultimately enabled him to be himself always—regardless of relationship or environment. In part 1 of this conversation, we set the stage for Stephan’s incredible journey to being diagnosed bipolar in his late 30s (and spoiler alert!), what it was like discovering that his wife was also bipolar in the same year. We dive into Stephan’s childhood, including what it was like being raised by a Korean mother while also having three older sisters; the intense seven-year experience of him and his family delivering the Washington Post to help make ends meet; and his young performing arts career. We also share perspectives on the value of higher education today; talk about how Stephan ultimately decided not to finish his degree, but instead launch his career at AOL during the hype of AIM, where he ended up meeting his now wife; and dive into the early years of his marriage, including some struggles and baggage that manifested itself during their three-year stint living in London, which became the catalyst that dropped them into the “insanity pit.” Throughout this conversation, we attempt to break down stigmas and “judgment” barriers by talking about what it means to be a “misfit,” and how we are all misfits in one way or another. Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov and Serge Quadrado. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

From a Black lawyer to a female leader to a loving mother, Kisha A. Brown, Esq. is dedicated to always showing up in the world, and doing it consciously. In this conversation, Kisha and I journey through her extraordinary legal career—from her time as a practicing attorney, to becoming the first woman to hold the role of Director of Civil Rights for the Baltimore City Office of Civil Rights, and then to today as a legal tech entrepreneur—and deep-dive into a plethora of civil rights and economic issues impacting the Black community, including police brutality, poverty, voter intimidation and more. We also talk about her journey to becoming the founder of Justis Connection, a Black lawyer referral and legal resources platform, and her mission and vision around impacting the world from the “Black perspective”–including what her and her team are doing to develop solutions that’ll make technology more equitable and inclusive for people of color. And through this conversation, Kisha opens up about multiple adversities she’s encountered throughout her life, including challenges trying to navigate the culture shock and a “double life” as a child when she moved from a very diverse NY to a very segregated Georgia; racism and workplace discrimination; and internal struggles with female disempowerment in leadership. Resources Justis Connection: A Black lawyer referral and legal resources platform Race After Technology by Ruha Benjamin Legends in The Law with William H. “Billy” Murphy, Esq (LinkedIn Live on July 15 at 12:30 ET): Black lawyers impact our civil rights everyday. Come hear from THE Billy Murphy who secured millions for the Freddie Gray family in Baltimore and has unapologetically made his own way throughout his legal career. Justice Looks Different for Different People: (YouTube Interview) Deanna and Kisha address the importance of considering how our justice system is experienced by marginalized populations. They also discuss the relationship that exists between the lack of Black lawyers in the industry and it’s impact on personal networks, and how it plays a role in the legal counsel people of color have access to and their level of understanding. In addition to meeting the needs of individuals seeking legal counsel, Kisha also explains the importance for enterprise organizations to work with lawyers of a diverse background in order to build the most holistic legal strategy possible. To connect with Kisha directly, you can send her an email at Kisha@JustisConnection.com. Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov, Serge Quadrado and Coma Media. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

Across four careers and just as many continents, Yza Shady’s journey through life can be described as many things, but plain isn’t one of them! In this conversation, we talk about Yza’s extraordinary career pivots, starting with her dancing days in 1980s’ NYC go-go bars and Parisian cabaret clubs, as well as cruise ships; to her time as an off-Broadway actor; then her transition to teacher at an elite boarding school for protege golf and tennis students; and finally her  move to the corporate world as a proposal writer. We also dive into what it was like growing up in a multi-cultural, Hispanic/Black family; her experience traveling solo at 15 to live abroad in South America for a year; and some of the prejudices she’s faced being a “dark-haired, dark-skinned” artist, beginning as an eight-year-old ballerina. And through all these experiences, Yza shares several surreal, sometimes life-altering, moments in time that have shaped her, as well as some adversities, including a couple near-death encounters; an unexpected divorce; and workplace inequity. We end by talking about Yza’s dream to eventually become an author and share her autobiographical essays with the world. And at the very end, Yza graces us by reading one of her essays, and it’s packed with so much emotion! Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov, Serge Quadrado and Coma Media. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

Sonia Zamborsky, (she/her/hers), doesn’t just live her truth, she lives it loudly–and proudly!  In this conversation, Sonia shares what her journey was like finding her sexual identity throughout her 20s and 30s; discovering what her queerness meant to her, and sometimes struggling with not being “queer enough”; and what it’s like coming out as a poly femme while also challenging common myths and misconceptions that exist. We also talk about Sonia’s passion for doing good in the world, and the incredible mission-based career she’s had–from helping organizations to better infuse DEIJ (or diversity, equity, inclusion and justice) principles into digital products and experiences to some of the volunteering work she’s done in the social impact space. And we also dive into bringing that J (or justice) piece to life when Sonia shares her experience helping to save a historic African American cemetery from being destroyed back in June 2020, and the humbling contributions she was able to make as a white ally. Resources: Sustainability Matters: A Virginia-based nonprofit dedicated to conservation and empowering everyday people to help the planet while helping themselves. Pronoun Inclusivity in UX Design Inclusive and Productive Meetings 4 Innovative DEI Solutions that Will Revolutionize the Workforce Need a DEIJ consultant for your digital products and experiences, want to get involved with Sustainability Matters, or just want to know more about Sonia? You can find her on LinkedIn and Instagram. Disclaimer: Not Your Average GOAT is produced and edited by Teisha Gillespie with music by Anton Vlasov, Serge Quadrado and Coma Media. All content is copyrighted and should not be reproduced, recreated or reused without explicit permission. Please visit NotYourAverageGOAT.org/Contact for questions.

Hi, I'm Teisha Gillespie, host of the upcoming podcast, Not Your Average GOAT. In this episode, I share with you my inspiration for why I even wanted to start a podcast; what my mission is and what I'm trying to accomplish with the show; and why I chose the name, Not Your Average GOAT. I'm going live in June, so get ready to tune in! Please follow us on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube to get notified of new episodes. You can also visit us at NotYourAverageGOAT.org.