Off the Pulpit

Off the Pulpit

By Off the Pulpit

Three pastors & friends conversing about life, culture, and church off the pulpit. Hosted by Eugene, Jason, & Thomas
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Fallen Pastors: Why Pastors Fall & How to Hope

Off the PulpitFeb 22, 2023
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Discipleship in a Volatile World w/Mark Sayers

Discipleship in a Volatile World w/Mark Sayers

In this episode, we try to go over the chaotic past few months of 2025 and ask Pastor Mark Sayers how we can stay faithful to Jesus in a volatile world and time.

May 21, 202501:10:04
Healthy Boundaries

Healthy Boundaries

In this episode, we talk about how to set healthy relational boundaries in our relationships while still living out our call to love others as disciples.


May 07, 202501:10:43
Korean-American Church Trauma: Pastors, Oppas and Social Media

Korean-American Church Trauma: Pastors, Oppas and Social Media

In this episode, we discuss the trauma and pain apparent in the Asian-American/Korean-American church, how to untangle and how to even heal as a church.

Mar 27, 202501:01:09
The Last of Us?!

The Last of Us?!

In this episode, we chat about the future of the Asian-American church, where we can find new ministers & pastors, a end with a word of encouragement.

Mar 19, 202557:59
Beautiful, Disappointing, Hopeful w/Drew Hyun
Mar 10, 202552:40
We Made It, #100

We Made It, #100

We made it, thank you to all who listen and all who sent their voice messages!

Feb 17, 202501:03:44
This Evangelistic Moment

This Evangelistic Moment

In this episode, we discuss how the spiritual appetite has grown within culture at large and how we as the church can effectively minister in this moment.

Jan 23, 202555:33
Farewell 2024

Farewell 2024

In this episode, we reflect on 2024, what God has been teaching us, and end with an encouraging charge for 2025.

Dec 19, 202436:22
Bad Theology

Bad Theology

In this episode, we explore common erroneous and faulty theological beliefs found in our churches and discuss how to rebuild a more holistic and faithful theology.

Dec 04, 202459:25
Politics, Trump and Jesus: Post-Election Thoughts

Politics, Trump and Jesus: Post-Election Thoughts

In this episode, we chat about the most recent election and president elect Donald Trump.

Nov 18, 202444:23
How to Stay Married w/Harrison Scott Key
Oct 30, 202401:11:10
The Spirit of Justice w/Jemar Tisby
Oct 16, 202401:00:45
Backpacking and Jesus

Backpacking and Jesus

In this episode, we give a short reflection of hiking and Jesus from the mountains.

Oct 10, 202415:57
Dealing with Sin & Sinners

Dealing with Sin & Sinners

In this episode, we define sin and how to confront it in our church communities.

Sep 11, 202450:44
Volunteering, Burnout, & Serving in the Church

Volunteering, Burnout, & Serving in the Church

this episode, we discuss the importance of serving and volunteering in the church, common pitfalls to avoid, and the benefits for both the church community and the individual.


Aug 28, 202451:53
Killing the Cynic, Fighting for Joy

Killing the Cynic, Fighting for Joy

In this episode, we chat on the heavy cynicism in our churches and how to fight for hope and joy.

Aug 07, 202459:00
Leading a Church & Creating Vibes

Leading a Church & Creating Vibes

In this episode, we discuss how leading a church today differs from the past, how leaders can lead from their true selves, and explore the importance of church "vibes."


Jul 10, 202457:45
Reimagining Discipleship (pt 3): The Enneagram

Reimagining Discipleship (pt 3): The Enneagram

In this episode, we discuss the Enneagram, the skeptics, and how it can be a tool to help shape our own discipleship.

Jun 05, 202401:11:22
Reimagining Discipleship (pt 2): Stage Theory

Reimagining Discipleship (pt 2): Stage Theory

In this episode, we continue our conversation on discipleship and share on stage theory, our thoughts, and how it could help the church.

May 28, 202401:06:22
Reimagining Discipleship

Reimagining Discipleship

In this episode, we reimagine what discipleship could like within our churches and people.

May 13, 202401:13:06
Reimagining Preaching

Reimagining Preaching

In this episode, we discuss how our views on preaching have changed and how we can foster a deeper culture of helpful and transformative preaching in our churches.

Apr 10, 202401:09:54
The Bible: yes that's the book for me

The Bible: yes that's the book for me

In this episode, we chat about Scripture, how to approach it and our own experiences in allowing the Bible to grow us closer to God.

Mar 27, 202401:04:59
Pastoral Burnout

Pastoral Burnout

In this episode, we chat on why so many pastors (especially lead pastors) burnout and what we can do to help.

Mar 13, 202401:04:54
State of the Church & the World w/Mark Sayers

State of the Church & the World w/Mark Sayers

In this episode, we are privileged to converse with Mark Sayers, discussing the current state of the church, the noticeable vibe shift among the people of God, and the world at large.

Feb 28, 202401:17:18
The Meaning of Singleness w/Dani Treweek

The Meaning of Singleness w/Dani Treweek

In this episode, we converse with Dani Treweek about singleness within the church and biblical context, exploring ways to forge a more profound path for singles in evangelical communities.

Feb 07, 202401:00:41
Prayer: Learning to Converse with God

Prayer: Learning to Converse with God

In this episode, we chat on prayer: addressing common misunderstandings, sharing our own definitions, and offering practical advice for developing a deeper intimacy with God.

Jan 24, 202401:05:43
Leaving Institutions, Staying with Jesus w/Karen Swallow Prior
Jan 10, 202449:44
A Decade of Youth Ministry w/Chris Li

A Decade of Youth Ministry w/Chris Li

In this episode, we chat with Mariners High School Pastor, Chris Li on his journey as a youth pastor through a variety of ministries and his thoughts on Gen-Z and youth.

Dec 21, 202301:05:36
Tribeless

Tribeless

In this episode, if tribes are necessary, how we feel tribeless, and our outlook for our tribal future.

Dec 06, 202301:17:13
The Korean PK Life w/Sam Bay

The Korean PK Life w/Sam Bay

In this episode, we chat with Sam Bay about his own experience as a pastor's kid, his own blessings and scars, and lessons for the church.

Nov 15, 202301:10:16
Shame & Shame Culture

Shame & Shame Culture

In this episode, we chat about what shame is, how it works, and what we can do as the church to confront it.

Nov 01, 202301:01:44
The Midlife Crisis

The Midlife Crisis

In this episode, we explore the phenomena of the midlife crisis, its intersection with our faith in Jesus, and the potential role of the church in navigating this challenging life phase.

Oct 11, 202359:22
The Great Dechurching w/Michael Graham

The Great Dechurching w/Michael Graham

In this episode, we chat with author Michael Graham delving into his newly co-authored book, The Great Dechurching. We chat about why people are leaving, what the church can do, and the glimmers of hope in our current cultural moment for the church.

Oct 04, 202359:12
Spiritual Warfare: Satan, Demons, & Lies

Spiritual Warfare: Satan, Demons, & Lies

In this episode, we chat on spiritual warfare, misconceptions, and how to practically wage war as disciples.

Sep 20, 202301:14:43
Breaking the Silence w/Christy Ro: (PT2) Confronting Abuse in the Asian-American Church

Breaking the Silence w/Christy Ro: (PT2) Confronting Abuse in the Asian-American Church

In this episode, we continue our conversation with Christy on her thoughts and wisdom on how our churches can learn, better protect, and combat abuse.


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Aug 22, 202301:00:01
Breaking the Silence w/Christy Ro: (PT1) The Trip

Breaking the Silence w/Christy Ro: (PT1) The Trip

Content Warning: Sexual and Spiritual Abuse

In this episode, we converse with Christy Ro on her courage, heroism, and uncovering of abuse during a summer mission trip.

This will be a two-part conversation with Christy: PT1 The Trip & PT2 Confronting Abuse in the Asian-American Church.

Aug 16, 202301:13:00
Lukewarm Faith, Wilderness Seasons, & Hope

Lukewarm Faith, Wilderness Seasons, & Hope

What can you do when you are lukewarm in your faith? How do you navigate through the wilderness with God? And why does God allow the valleys of our faith? In this episode, we discuss all of the above and more.

Aug 02, 202301:04:03
The (Church) Office

The (Church) Office

In this episode, we chat about the ins and outs of church work/staff culture.

Jul 13, 202301:17:10
Finding Our Voice: Asian-American Worship?

Finding Our Voice: Asian-American Worship?

In this episode, we explore the idea of Asian-American worship and delve into the process of discovering our unique voice in worship music.

Jun 14, 202359:43
A Tribute to Our GOAT, Timothy Keller

A Tribute to Our GOAT, Timothy Keller

A tribute to our most formative and helpful shepherd, Timothy Keller.

May 24, 202348:17
Heaven & Hell

Heaven & Hell

In this episode, we discuss distinguishing between cultural influences and Scriptural truths concerning heaven and hell.

May 10, 202301:02:51
Worship, Emotions & BEEF

Worship, Emotions & BEEF

In this episode, we chat about the Netflix show BEEF and why so many Asian-Americans resonated with the depiction of the church experience.

Apr 18, 202301:17:05
The Wives Takeover

The Wives Takeover

In this episode, the wives takeover and chat about all things pastor wive life and women in the church.

Apr 05, 202301:22:13
Building the Asian-American Church w/Jay Song

Building the Asian-American Church w/Jay Song

In this episode, we chat with Pastor Jay Song about how we can build an Asian-American ecclesiology to serve our congregations.

Mar 22, 202301:20:27
Reparations w/Duke Kwon

Reparations w/Duke Kwon

In this episode, we chat with Pastor Duke Kwon about his most recent book Reparations and traversing through the Asian-American church. 

Mar 08, 202301:01:49
Fallen Pastors: Why Pastors Fall & How to Hope

Fallen Pastors: Why Pastors Fall & How to Hope

In this episode, we discuss the spiritual epidemic of fallen pastors in our current moment and how the church can respond in health and hope. 

Feb 22, 202301:13:50
Jesus & Gender w/Elyse Fitzpatrick

Jesus & Gender w/Elyse Fitzpatrick

In this episode, we chat with Elyse about her most recent book Jesus and Gender, and her thoughts on the gender debate within the church and evangelical culture. 

Feb 15, 202348:13
Retreats & Revival

Retreats & Revival

In this episode, we chat about why retreats, why we have so many of them, and what genuine revival looks like. 

Feb 02, 202355:57
Is the Church™ a business?

Is the Church™ a business?

In this episode, we chat about how the church organizes itself in America and how eerily similar it is to a business. 

Jan 11, 202301:20:16
Relational Tear and Repair

Relational Tear and Repair

In this episode, we chat about relational pain and difficulty and how to move toward relational repair. 

Dec 14, 202201:23:09