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On the Other Foot

On the Other Foot

By Jayne and Kalena

On the Other Foot is a weekly podcast on nutrition, lifestyle, and mental health for regular people who happen to dance. We are a no holds barre-d (see what we did there?) look at the world of dance where each week, Kalena and Jayne take on a topic in the dance world that isn't spoken about enough and approach it honestly for our listeners. Isn't that nice of us?
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Episode 2: Second Company Careers with Alison Tatsuoka

On the Other FootOct 01, 2019

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Episode 21: Uncut: Sacrifice, perfectionism, and Q&A

Episode 21: Uncut: Sacrifice, perfectionism, and Q&A

On this uncut episode, Kalena and Jayne talk about sacrifices dancers make and are taught to make for their art and how that mentality develops a strong perfectionism in young dancers. We also take some questions from Instagram and answer them honestly, from companies being transparent about donations to our favorite childhood tv shows. Isn't that nice of us?

Aug 18, 202001:00:25
Episode 20: Ballet's career influence with Claudia Suarez of Beyond the Corps

Episode 20: Ballet's career influence with Claudia Suarez of Beyond the Corps

This week Kalena and Jayne dive into career choices with Claudia Suarez. We talk about the importance and root which dance holds within us, and how those roots grow into inspiration for many different careers from ballet historian to dance blogger and podcaster. Isn't that nice of us?

Aug 04, 202038:41
Episode 19: The Beauty of International Training with Claudia Suarez of Beyond the Corps

Episode 19: The Beauty of International Training with Claudia Suarez of Beyond the Corps

This week, Jayne and Kalena talked with Claudia Suarez, creator of the Beyond the Corps Podcast. Claudia's time training in Venezuela, England, and Florida have all contributed to her technique today, and she shares with us some of the ways in which her family's frequent moving actually benefitted her dancing in the end. We chat about Vaganova, Cuban style, differences in teaching, and more! Isn't that nice of us?

Jul 21, 202059:32
Episode 18: Uncut: Body Image

Episode 18: Uncut: Body Image

This week, Kalena and Jayne address their feelings on body image and handling our experiences and struggles with body image. We talk about our histories with body image in hopes to spread some inclusion and make us all feel a little less alone. Isn't that nice of us?
**Disclaimer: In this episode we discuss our experiences, but we do not at all intend to provide medical advice in any way to our listeners. We at On the Other Foot encourage reaching out to nutritionists, doctors, and therapists to help navigate the mental and physical challenges associated with the topics of this episode.
Jul 07, 202044:52
Episode 17: Behind the artistic lens with Jeff and Kay McLean

Episode 17: Behind the artistic lens with Jeff and Kay McLean

In part two of this interview with Jeff and Kay McLean, Jayne and Kalena ask questions about what they've learned about the developing artistry of young dancers through their experiences with photography. We chat about their process, challenges, and learning curves. Isn't that nice of us?

Jun 23, 202036:35
Episode 16: The Art of Artistry in Photography with Jeff and Kay McLean of Lightheart Dance Art

Episode 16: The Art of Artistry in Photography with Jeff and Kay McLean of Lightheart Dance Art

This week, Jayne and Kalena talk with Jeff and Kay McLean, creators of the San Diego-based photography project Lightheart Dance Art. Years of experience in photography from rodeo to landscape to all kinds of dance has taught the pair a thing or two about the art of producing beautiful photos, and they're here to share with us their experiences and walk through their artistic process during a shoot. We talk photo anxiety, learning experiences, and having fun. Isn't that nice of us?

Jun 09, 202037:06
Episode 15: From San Diego to Boston (and everything in between) with Corina Gill

Episode 15: From San Diego to Boston (and everything in between) with Corina Gill

In part 2 of this interview, Jayne and Kalena talk with Corina Gill, former Boston Ballet demisoloist, about how she transitioned from local training at Southern California Ballet to college at UC Irvine, dancing at companies like State Street Ballet and Los Angeles Ballet, and eventually moving to Boston to dance for Boston Ballet. We learn a lot about the maturity it takes to be a ballerina and the common spark found in every young dancer, no matter the level. Isn't that nice of us?

May 19, 202025:26
Episode 14: The joys of local ballet schools with Corina Gill

Episode 14: The joys of local ballet schools with Corina Gill

Welcome to season 2! This week, Jayne and Kalena sit down with Corina Gill, former Boston Ballet demisoloist and UC Irvine alumna Corina Gill to discuss growing up at Southern California Ballet, the San Diego based studio which trained both Corina and Kalena! We talk about the benefits and the shortcomings to growing up at a local studio compared to going away to conservatory at a young age. Isn't that nice of us?

May 05, 202020:18
COVID-19 Dance Community update and Season 2 news!

COVID-19 Dance Community update and Season 2 news!

Hi! Season one is concluded, but we wanted to connect with our audience to share our quick thoughts and our plans to connect on social media while we are on our break! Isn't that nice of us?

Mar 20, 202004:23
Episode 13: Making experience from injury with Jordan Tilton

Episode 13: Making experience from injury with Jordan Tilton

In the second half of our interview with fellow podcaster Jordan Tilton, we talk about injury: her story, our feelings, and why injuries can feel like they drag us down so hard. Jordan shares some relatable and inspiring thoughts on why injury can be turned into a developing experience.

Feb 25, 202040:06
Episode 12: Just podcaster problems with Jordan Tilton

Episode 12: Just podcaster problems with Jordan Tilton

This week Kalena and Jayne connect with a fellow podcaster, Jordan Nicole Tilton, who started off blogging about professional dancers working businesses on the side before turning her blog into her podcast Ballet to Business which launched shortly prior to On the Other Foot! In this half of the interview, we talk how we got into podcasting, what inspires us, and how we deal with challenges along the way. Isn't that nice of us?

Feb 11, 202043:37
Episode 11: Uncut: Summer Intensives part two

Episode 11: Uncut: Summer Intensives part two

In this continuation of Episode 10's talk of summer intensives, Jayne and Kalena talk more about their own personal experiences and give the most sage advice they possibly can. Ballet is hard, but we all want to grow and have fun, so we talk how to do so without breaking the bank or sacrificing your mental health. Isn't that nice of us?

Jan 28, 202031:32
Episode 10: Uncut: Summer Intensives part one

Episode 10: Uncut: Summer Intensives part one

Are you about to enter audition season for summer intensives? Maybe you already have? Maybe your daughter or son is asking about going to a summer intensive? In this episode, Kalena and Jayne get real with conversations about summer intensives, what to expect, and how to go about auditioning. Isn't that nice of us?

Jan 14, 202033:50
Episode 9: Don't Be Afraid to Change with Miko Fogarty (Part Two)

Episode 9: Don't Be Afraid to Change with Miko Fogarty (Part Two)

As we enter the second half on our interview with former Royal Birmingham Ballet dancer and current UC Berkeley Biology student Miko Fogarty, we turn our focus to address her "next career." We talk practicalities of community college, finding a balance with ballet, and how all experiences add to our unique identities. Miko helps remind us to never be afraid to change who you are. Isn't that nice of her (and us)?

Dec 10, 201933:43
Episode 8: Turning Your Journey's Page With Miko Fogarty (Part one)

Episode 8: Turning Your Journey's Page With Miko Fogarty (Part one)

Today we are fangirling away to the tune of Miko Fogarty, classical ballet competition star and former Birmingham Royal Ballet dancer who has reinvented herself to be an Undergraduate Student at UC Berkeley pursuing her Bachelor's degree. We were so happy to talk with Miko about the stereotypes of prodigies, the scary parts of jumping off the ledge, and how to know when the line between the natural challenge ballet presents and a serious mental health issue has been crossed. Isn't that nice of us?

Nov 26, 201926:22
Episode 7: Q&A

Episode 7: Q&A

This week, Kalena and Jayne answer a few questions submitted on Instagram this past week for our listeners to hear. We also try out a shorter format, so let us know what you think! And if you didn't get your question answers, watch for when we do another Q&A in the future! Isn't that nice of us?

Nov 05, 201930:59
Episode 6: Uncut: The Love of Performing

Episode 6: Uncut: The Love of Performing

This week's episode is the first of a series that we at On the Other Foot hope to share every few episodes. Jayne and Kalena sit down together and chat openly about the podcast and a topic they figure out together. This unstructured episode provides us a way to show some candid moments and share our own views to each other and all of you. This time, we talk about our life stories, our favorite ballets, and how performing makes ballet all worthwhile. Isn't that nice of us?

Oct 22, 201959:49
Episode 5: Classical to Contemporary with Candy Tong

Episode 5: Classical to Contemporary with Candy Tong

On this week's episode, Kalena and Jayne sit down with Candy Tong, dancer with Complexions Contemporary Ballet, to talk about how she made the transition to baby San Francisco Ballet School 'trina to contemporary goddess extraordinaire. We talk comfort zones, auditions, and the importance of timing in everyone's career, because we all share the need to speak out about our experiences to younger generations. Isn't that nice of us?

Oct 15, 201901:00:03
Episode 4: From College Student to Professional Dancer with Karen Wing

Episode 4: From College Student to Professional Dancer with Karen Wing

This week, Kalena and Jayne talk to Karen Wing, BalletMet company member and University of California, Irvine Alumna. We talk about the transition from dance major to professional dancer: What is it like to enter the ballet workforce later than those who don't attend college right away? We chat about finding your place and learning to expand your horizons. Isn't that nice of us? 

Oct 08, 201901:06:44
Episode 3: Choosing Small Companies with Karli Padilla

Episode 3: Choosing Small Companies with Karli Padilla

In this episode, Kalena and Jayne sit down with Karli Padilla of the UC Irvine Claire Trevor School of the Arts to talk about why more people are choosing small companies for their location, quality of life, and experiences. We talk about how life is a journey for all and laugh about cliches. Isn't that nice of us?

Oct 01, 201946:38
Episode 2: Second Company Careers with Alison Tatsuoka

Episode 2: Second Company Careers with Alison Tatsuoka

In our second episode, we talk with Ballet Arizona second company member and Columbia University student Alison Tatsuoka about her experience deferring her university studies to dance for Oklahoma City Ballet and Ballet Arizona. We talk education, busy schedules, and why we can't seem to quit ballet. Isn't that nice of us?

Oct 01, 201931:58
Episode 1: Pilot and Introduction

Episode 1: Pilot and Introduction

Kalena and Jayne come on the air for the first time to discuss some of their background and introduce the show! Isn't that nice of us?
Sep 18, 201902:34