Pep Talks for Artists
By Amy Talluto
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Ep 88: Resilience Through Research (Pt5) w/ Jennifer Coates
::CW: during the Kathe Kollwitz section, we discuss a print dealing with sexual assault::
Jennifer and I are back with our bushel baskets of researched artists of the past to soothe our shattered nerves. Tune in to hear about 6 artists that made exceptional work under strained circumstances: Käthe Kollwitz, John of Arderne - medieval surgeon and margin doodler, Gustav Metzger, William Gropper, David Hammons and Joan Miró.
Käthe Kollwitz notes:
"Käthe Kollwitz" exhibtion at MOMA May-June 2024
Emile Zola's novel "Germinal" 1885
"Scene from 'Germinal" 1893
"A Weavers' Revolt" series 1893-1897
Gerhart Hauptmann's play "The Weavers" 1892
"The Mothers" 1918
"Never Again" 1924
"R-ped" 1907
Francisco de Goya's "Disasters of War" series
Otto Dix "Der Krieg" 1924
John of Arderne notes:
Medical Treatises England: c.1376, re-copied and 1475-1500Sp Coll MS Hunter 251 (U.4.9) (see more here and here)
Misericord seatrest carvings in English medieval churches
Gustave Metzger notes:
The Viennese Actionists
Artist, David Bomberg
"Auto-destructive Art" 1961 London performance
"Flailing Trees" 2009
"Remember Nature" 2015
"Table" c.1957-8
The Fluxus movement
Documentary "Lifeline: Clyfford Still"
William Gropper notes:
"America: It's Folklore" 1946
Francisco de Goya's "Los Caprichos" series 1798
French political artist, Honoré Daumier
"Blacklist" and "Environment" from Gropper's Capriccios series 1953–57
David Hammons notes:
"The Melt Goes on Forever: The Art & Times of David Hammons" Documentary 2022
Artist, Charles White
Artist, Betye Saar
"Bliz-aard Ball Sale" Performance New York, NY 1983
"Body Prints" 1968–1979
"Hair and Wire, Venice Beach" 1977
"Untitled" circa 1980s
"Higher Goals" 1983; 1986
"Untitled (Night Train)" 1989
Artist, Rachel Whiteread
Joan Miró notes:
Ballet Russes
Artist, Henri Matisse
"Mori el Merma" (Death to Merma) Theatrical collaboration with the Barcelona puppet troupe, La Claca, headed by Joan Baixas 1978 (watch here)
"Ubu Roi" by Alfred Jarry 1896
Artist, Meg Lipke
Current studio daemons: olm, volcano snail, and a rare algae of Blick Mead called Hildenbrandia
Thank you, Jennifer!
Jennifer' website: https://www.jenniferlcoates.com/
Jennifer on IG: https://www.instagram.com/jennifercoates666/
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Ep 87: CounterPointe Report w/ Elisabeth Condon & Jennifer Coates
Today's episode is a special conversation and recap of Elisabeth Condon and my experiences collaborating as visual artists in the ballet project CounterPointe (now in its 12th year) produced by Norte Maar and staged at the Mark O'Donnell Theater (Brooklyn) in March 2025. Jennifer Coates kindly came on to ask us questions about making props and what it was like for 2 newbies to enter the world of dance. Thanks, Jennifer!
Special thanks also to Norte Maar and its co-directors, Julia K. Gleich and Jason Andrew for their support of artists and creative collaboration.
More information about Elisabeth and Amy's work:
Elisabeth: https://www.elisabethcondon.com/ | @elisabethcondon
Amy: https://www.amytalluto.com/ | @talluts
More information about Julia Gleich and Jason Andrew's NorteMaar & CounterPointe12: https://www.nortemaar.org/projects/counterpointe12
Julia K. Gleich's website: https://www.gleichdances.org/
Julia Gleich interview on this podcast: Episode 49
The dances we discussed:
"Vermillion | 10" by Ava Desiderio and Elisabeth Condon
Dancers: Minami Ando, Lucia Betelu
Support structures: Elise Wunderlich
Music by Zero Eklipse and William Pilarte
Lighting: Evan Spigelman
Mark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025
"And So It Begins" by Margaret Wiss and Amy Talluto
Dancers: Maya Tsuruki Holden and Jaclyn Kriewall
Music by Margaret Wiss
Lighting: Evan Spigelman
Mark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025
"46 Gordon" by Julia K. Gleich and Nicole Cherubini
Dancers: Michelle Buckley, Kara Chan, Annie Freeman, Amber Neff, Ethan Schweitzer-Gaslin
Lighting: Evan Spigelman
Mark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025
Special thanks to Jennifer Coates for interviewing us!
Jennifer's website: https://www.jenniferlcoates.com/
Jennifer on IG: @jennifercoates666
Artists mentioned: Henri Matisse, William Kentridge, Florine Stettheimer, Keisha Prioleau Martin, Meg Lipke, Elana Herzog, Nicole Cherubini, Alvin Ailey, Judith Jamison (Dancer), Julia K. Gleich (Choreographer), Jason Andrew
Dances mentioned: "Afternoon of a Faun" by the Ballet Russes, “Minutiae” (1954) Robert Rauschenberg and Merce Cunningham, "Cry" Alvin Ailey
Video mentioned: "How to Make Theater Props" by Eric Bucklein (not actually old but young) https://youtu.be/JSl5Vc8mej0?si=KWGdOxnijBiEEGZc
Book mentioned: Inigo Philbrick "All That Glitters: A Story of Friendship, Fraud, and Fine Art"
Exhibition mentioned: "Edges of Ailey" at the Whitney
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Ep 86: The Source Channeler & The Market Child
In this audio essay, I roam from post-war France to the abstract expressionists to the artists of the East Village and even to outer space to consider times in art history when art was forced to bloom in the dark. These under-the-radar moments yielded deeply experimental work, and I wonder how we might channel some of that spirit in our own time.
Artists mentioned: Laurie Anderson, Joan Miro, Jean Dubuffet, Marcel Duchamp, David Wojnarowicz, and Judy Glantzman
Scientists mentioned: Robert H Dicke, Jim Peebles
Jim Peebles interviewed by Alan Lightman for the American Institute of Physics January 19, 1988 Princeton, NJ: https://www.aip.org/history-programs/niels-bohr-library/oral-histories/33957
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Ep 85: Meret Oppenheim's Titles
I'm offering for you here a new mini ep about what I've been thinking about lately: the wackiness of Meret Oppenheim's titles - and how they expand the mystery of her images rather than explain them.
I recently snagged the catalog from the Moma retrospective show from last year and highly recommend it if you don't have it yet. It's full of lovely color plates: https://store.moma.org/products/meret-oppenheim-my-exhibition-hardcover But I think cheaper ones are on Amazon?
Here are some images from the exhibition online too: https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5368
Some art news:
Tickets for CounterPointe12, a collaborative art ballet in Brooklyn March 8-9, 2025!
Check out "Mythology/Matriarchy" at the Middle Room Gallery in Los Angeles (Glendale) March 14 - April 27, 2025
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Ep 84: "Lifeline: Clifford Still" Film Review (Part 2) w/ Mandolyn Wilson Rosen
This is Part 2 of Mandolyn Wilson Rosen and my review of "Lifeline: Clyfford Still" 2019 directed by Dennis Scholl. It's a juicy art bio tell-all with a crusty curmudgeon as its talented but embittered subject. Don't forget to listen to Part 1 too!
Find the film on Amazon ($2.99 SD) or for free on Kanopy
Find Mandolyn online at: https://mandolynwilsonrosen.com and on IG at @mandolyn_rosen
Artists mentioned: Philip Guston, Barnett Newman, Jackson Pollock, Willem DeKooning, Frank Stella, Donald Judd, Paul Cezanne, Ad Reinhardt, Mark Rothko, Thomas Hart Benton,
Thank you, Mandy! Thank you, Listeners!
Visit RuthAnn, a new artist-run gallery in Catskill, NY at @ruthanngallery and ruthanngallery.com
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Ep 83: "Lifeline: Clyfford Still" Film Review (Part 1) w/ Mandolyn Wilson Rosen
Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is back on the podcast! This time, instead of a book we are talking about an artist documentary. The film is called "Lifeline: Clyfford Still" 2019 directed by Dennis Scholl. It's a juicy art bio tell-all with a crusty curmudgeon as its talented but embittered subject. Come along with us as we enter a turbulently Still world.
Find the film on Amazon ($2.99 SD) or for free on Kanopy
Find Mandolyn online at: https://mandolynwilsonrosen.com and on IG at @mandolyn_rosen
Links to the writings we mentioned:
Clyfford Still's "An Open Letter to an Art Critic" on Artforum
https://www.artforum.com/features/an-open-letter-to-an-art-critic-212151/
David Levi Strauss for Brooklyn Rail "From Metaphysics to Invective"
Seph Rodney for Hyperallergic "Hoping is Not Enough"
https://hyperallergic.com/983414/hoping-is-not-enough/
Artists mentioned: Matthew Barney, Jackson Pollock, Mark Rothko, Barnett Newman, Lois Dodd, Julian Schnabel, Mark Bradford, Julie Mehretu, Frank Stella, Ellsworth Kelly, Michelle Grabner
Writers mentioned: Seph Rodney, Paul Valéry, John Ruskin, Guillaume Apollinaire, John Ruskin, David Levi Strauss, Dore Ashton, Jerry Saltz, Ken Johnson, Clement Greenberg, Emily Dickinson's "'Hope' is the thing with feathers"
Thank you, Mandy! Thank you, Listeners!
Visit RuthAnn, a new artist-run gallery in Catskill, NY at @ruthanngallery and ruthanngallery.com
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Ep 82: Resilience Through Research (Pt 4) w/ Jennifer Coates
Jennifer Coates is back with me this week to cohost Part 4 of our series about researching our way to feeling better as artists. This time we go all the way back to 1306 to the Mongol empire and then zoom forward to the 1970's in the USSR and with a few more stops in between. We studied hard (and maybe got C minuses) but we ended up feeling inspired and hope you will too.
The artists we spoke about:
Zheng Sixiao of Southern China's Song Dynasty, "Ink Orchid" 1306, during Mongol Empire (Yuan Dynasty) under Kublai
Kasimir Malevich of Russia/USSR, "Black Square" 1915, "Girls in a Field" 1928-30, "Female Worker" 1933, Russian icon paintings
The Bulldozer Exhibition, 15 September 1974 and Oskar Rabin "Lamp and Shawl" 1974 & Lidya Masterkova "Untitled" 1974 of the Leonozovo Group, Photographs by Mikhail Abrosimov/ The Calvert Journal
Read more:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/17/bulldozer-underground-exhibition-revolutionised-russian-art
https://www.edelman.com/insights/bulldozer-exhibition-my-eyewitness-account-russian-repression-6-am
Claude Cahun of Jersey (Channel Islands/France), Partner/Collaborator, Marcel Moore, "I am in training, don't kiss me" 1927, "What do you want from me?" 1929, "Self Portrait" 1939
The Nahua People of the Aztec Empire and the Florentine Codex: https://florentinecodex.getty.edu/ - facilitated by Franciscan Monk, Bernardino de Sahagún, Deep dive into the Codex with Dr. Diana Magaloni Kerpel, Deputy Director, Program Director, and Dr. Virginia Fields Curator of the Art of the Ancient Americas at the LA County Museum of Art (LACMA): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUfg_WQwvMg
Gee's Bend Quilters of Alabama and their organization Souls Grown Deep: https://www.soulsgrowndeep.org/
Other artists mentioned:
Elisabeth Condon, Piet Mondrian
**Disclaimer: As we are not historians by trade, some factual errors may have slipped through. Apologies if so **
Jennifer Coates online: web and IG
Amy Talluto online: web and IG
Thank you, Jennifer! Thank you, Listeners!
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Ep 81: Elisabeth Condon Describes a Christina Ramberg Retrospective
Welcome back, Elisabeth! This time I am very excited to be speaking to Artist, Elisabeth Condon, about one of my favorite Chicago Imagists: Christina Ramberg.
The Art Institute of Chicago recently mounted a retrospective of Ramberg's work and Elisabeth travelled to see the show this past summer. She spent time telling me about her favorite works, but also offered insight into Ramberg's personality and teaching style - as Elisabeth was her student in graduate school at SAIC in the late 80's.
Ramberg is known for her small but tightly-wound acrylic paintings of disembodied women: truncated torsos, legless high heels shoes, floating suits, and body-less corsets, but also produced quilts and a series of satellite paintings shortly before she died at 49 of Pick's disease.
See more images from the Art Institute retrospective here:
https://www.artic.edu/exhibitions/9723/christina-ramberg-a-retrospective
Barry Schwabsky's review in The Nation:
https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/christina-rambergs-public-secrets/
Riva Lehrer AIC Lecture on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0afNYv3mfqo&t=2812s
Thea Liberty Nichols AIC Lecture on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0ps_oQnrvs
Julia Fish, Rebecca Shore and Judith Russi Kirshner AIC Panel on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQzpGJGot-k
Find Artist, Elisabeth Condon online here: https://www.elisabethcondon.com/ and https://www.instagram.com/elisabethcondon/
Ramberg's artworks mentioned: "Untitled" 1980, Satellite Paintings "Untitled 122" 1986, "Istrian River Lady" 1974, "Probed Cinch" 1971, "Troubled Sleeve" 1974, "Bound Hand" 1973, "Untitled Hand" 1975, "Corset/Urns" 1970, "Lola La Lure" 1969, "Cabbage Head" 1968, "Belle Rêve" 1969, Quilt works, and "Satellite" series of the late 80's, Playboy Commission 1972 "Untitled", "Shadow Panel" 1972
Artists mentioned: Paula Modersohn-Becker, Utamaro "Two Girls with a Cricket Box," Jimmy Wright, Phillip Hanson, Jeff Koons, Ed Paschke, Mike Kelly, Erling Sjovold, Jackie Kazarian, Christopher Williams, Maureen P. Sherlock, Lori Gunn (Wirsum), Karl Wirsum, Roger Brown, William Eckhardt Kohler, Karl Kelly, Jackie Saccoccio, Jackie Cheng, Helen O'Leary, Helen O'Toole, Barbara Rossi, Ray Yoshida, Judith Russi Kirshner, Julia Fish, Riva Lehrer, Rebecca Shore
Others noted: Muriel Newman (Collector), Kanye West, Edith Wharton, Corbett VS Dempsey Gallery, Rozsika Parker and Griselda Pollock's "Old Mistresses: Women, Art and Ideology"
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Ep 80: Resilience Through Research (Pt 3) w/ Jennifer Coates
Artist, Jennifer Coates is back for Part 3 in our series about finding artistic resilience through research! This time we look at these artists and how they adapted to their own gloomy times of foreboding:
Kay Sage: Found a way to paint even though she was a victim of domestic violence and ignored by the art world, and used her money to help Surrealist artists flee Germany and France before WWII
Grete Stern: Sneakily slipped in feminist art into a fluffy women's magazine under the Peronist regime
Jacob Lawrence: Illustrated injustices and acts of racism not covered by the history books
Frederic Edwin Church: Painted an emblem that many thought symbolized the coming Civil War
Works mentioned:
Kay Sage works: "This Morning" 1939, "China Eggs" Autobiography, "I Saw Three Cities" 1944, "A Bird in the Room" 1955, "Destiny" a poem
Grete Stern works: "Los Sueños: Muñecos (Dreams: The Doll)" 1949 for Idilio Magazine (Argentina)
Jacob Lawrence works: "The Life of Toussaint Louverture," "Migration" and "Struggle" Series
Frederic Edwin Church works: "Meteor" 1860, with writers/poets: Herman Melville's "The Portent" 1859, Walt Whitman's "Year of Meteors" 1860 and "Crossing Brooklyn Ferry" 1856 (both "Leaves of Grass")
Special thanks to art historian and Senior Curator at the Smithsonian, Eleanor Harvey, for her presentation on the Civil War - from which I got most of my information on the meteor and its effects on the culture then: https://www.youtube.com/live/3r1_xWV1ICU?si=QtC2xKeHq7oHzNfQ
Other artists mentioned: André Breton, Fra Angelico, Piero della Francesca
**Disclaimer: As we are not historians by trade, some factual errors may have slipped through. Apologies if so **
Jennifer Coates online: web and IG
Amy Talluto online: web and IG
Thank you, Jennifer! Thank you, Listeners!
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Ep 79: Resilience through Research (Pt 2) w/ Jennifer Coates
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What can an artist do during times of political unrest and instability? In this episode (Part 2 of our series), we aim to find out. Jennifer Coates joins me again to share some stories from the past of how artists coped throughout history, because somehow research is very reassuring right now!
We looked at the ways these specific artists reflected and reacted to their time:
Goya: Made his most honest work in secret
Dave Drake: Created signed pottery and poetry and used them to comment on his life and times, even though enslaved
Otto Dix: Painted the horrors of the past in order to warn society against repeating them
Mario Mafai: Documented destruction of housing under Fascism
Felix Nussbaum: Painted even while hiding from the Gestapo
Piet Mondrian: Built a controlled world of harmony and equilibrium to escape to
George Grosz: Openly lampooned everyone in power & the media
Francisco de Goya works: "Goya's Graphic Imagination" exhibition at the Met 2021, "Disasters of War" Etchings 1810-20, "Still Life of a Lambs Head and Flanks" 1812, "The Black Paintings" incl "Saturn Devouring His Son" 1823, "The Dog" 1823, and "Witches Sabbath" 1823
Dave Drake: all examples of stoneware jugs and vessels
Otto Dix works: "The Trench" 1923, "War Cripples" 1920, "The Skull" 1924, "Mealtime in the Trenches" 1924
Mario Mafai works: "Demolition" 1936, "Destruction of the Neighborhoods" 1939
Felix Nussbaum works: "Self-Portrait with Jewish Identity Card" 1943, "Death Triumphant" 1944
Piet Mondrian work: "Tableau 1, Lozenge with Four Lines and Gray" 1926
George Grosz work: "Pillars of Society" 1926
Other artists/movements mentioned: DeStijl Movement, Futurist Movement, Dada Movement, Yves Tanguay
Part 3 is out now!
**Disclaimer: As we are not historians by trade, some factual errors may have slipped through. Apologies if so **
Jennifer Coates online: web and IG
Amy Talluto online: web and IG
Thank you, Jennifer! Thank you, Listeners!
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Amy's website: amytalluto.com
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Ep 78: Resilience through Research (Pt 1) w/ Jennifer Coates
Jennifer Coates, friend of the pod, is back to help me consider a new way forward (artwise) after the destabilizing event of the US election. She, herself, is finding comfort in the long history of rocks, geology and the cosmos, while I find myself turning to a book about how Matisse and his daughter, Marguerite, both reacted to the trauma of WWII in opposite yet valid ways. It's a bit of a potpourri, but we promise some great galvanizing art historical quotes and an inspiring double pep talk for the ages. Alternative title of ep: Rock Paper Scissors! Come hang out with us!
Media mentions: The Weekly Show w Jon Stewart (ep with Heather Cox Richardson), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on IG/Tiktok
Rock mentions: The Makapansgat pebble, Paleo "Venuses," Venus de Willendorf, baetyl stones, "The Living Stones" by Ithell Colquhoun, Paul Cezanne's drawings of Fontainbleu Quarry/MOMA show , John Elderfield and Terry Winters discuss Cezanne's Rock and Quarry Paintings for the Brooklyn Rail , "Turning to Stone: Discovering the Subtle Wisdom of Rocks" by Marcia Bjornerud, new minerals elalite and elkinstantonite discovered in 2022 in Somalia from a meteorite
Art mentions:
Cat Balco, Adie Russell, Elisabeth Condon, Pierre Bonnard, Edvard Munch & "White Night" 1900, Dada Movement, Hannah Hoch & “Cut with the Kitchen Knife," Man Ray, "Matisse the Master" by Hilary Spurling, "The Unknown Matisse" by Hilary Spurling, Henri Matisse ”Bathers by a River" 1917 and "The Chapelle du Rosaire de Vence" 1947-51, "Verve Magazine" Issue No 8 Vol 2 (1940), "Les Fleurs de Mal" Baudelaire/Matisse poetry book, Marguerite Matisse, Max Beckmann
Jennifer's website and IG: https://www.jenniferlcoates.com/ @jennifercoates666
Thank you, Jennifer! Thank you, Listeners!
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Bonus Ep: The Canopy Program with Catherine Haggarty
This bonus episode is a promotion for NYC Crit Club's "The Canopy Program" 2025, a year-long mentorship community for artists. Founder and artist, Catherine Haggarty, stopped by the pod to tell me more about what the program offers, who it's for, and which artists she has on deck to lead the cohorts next year.
Applications for The Canopy Program are open Monday, December 9th - January 12, 2025
Quick Links:
RSVP for Zoom Info Sessions (Dec 3, 10, 12 and Jan 3, 6)
The Canopy Program is a year-long intimate mentorship program, providing artists access to work exclusively with a Faculty Mentor and a Cohort of 10 artists for three consecutive semesters (Spring, Summer + Fall 2025).
Together, as a Cohort, artists will meet regularly for critiques, discussions, artist talks, and resource-building in professional practices, workshops, and lectures! Each Cohort features an esteemed roster of invited Guest Speakers + Visiting Artists/Critics/Gallerists.
2025 Mentors
Rose Nestler @rose.nestler (virtual)
Matt Phillips @themattphillips (virtual)
Erika Ranee @erikaranee (virtual)
Adrienne Elise Tarver @adrienne__elise (virtual)
Amy Lincoln @amyplincoln (in person)
Sara Jimenez @saraegj (in person)
Virtual Cohorts are hosted via Zoom and are open to artists around the globe!
In-Person Cohorts are hosted in Chelsea (New York City) and are open to NYC-area
Visit nyccritclub.com to learn more & apply!
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Ep 77: Interview w/ Artist, Kristen Mills
I'm back in the interview seat with Kristen Mills, an artist working in video, sculpture and installation. We discussed her latest show at Turley Gallery where she covered an entire room with cardboard and made it into a spaceship cockpit. Her video work features clones of herself, multiplied, and combines humor and old school editing techniques to create surreal worlds of play and exploration. The digital elements are then ensconced in laboriously-made, intricate cardboard constructions.
There's also Glue Tawk and a MacDowell Corner! Tune in!
Find Kristen's work online:
Web: https://millskristen.com/
Sharpe-Walentas Studio Program on IG: @swstudioprogram
(Open Studios in late April 2025)
Previous Exhibitions:
Turley Gallery: https://www.turley.gallery/kristen-mills-seats-for-everyone
Glenlily Grounds: https://www.glenlilygrounds.com/glenlily-grounds-2024
Ortega y Gasset: https://www.oygprojects.com/believability
Kristen's videos mentioned: Audience for an Audience, Waiting Room, I Can Reach In, Seats for Everyone, Space Race (featuring artwork by Melissa Dadourian), The Portal with the Cord, Tap Sap, Rock Collecting, Animal Sanctuary Project, Sister Spaceship Live at the Sinkhole w/ Angie Melchin
Comedians mentioned: Maria Bamford, Atsuko Okatsuka, Ali Wong, Paula Poundstone, Chris Fleming
Movies/TV Mentioned: Strangers with Candy, Pee-wee's Playhouse, Beetlejuice
Artist Residencies/Schools Mentioned: Skohegan School of Painting & Sculpture, Vermont Studio Center (VSC), MacDowell and Firth Studio, Amy's secret MacDowell vlog, Columbo's Dog: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_sKO_QcKc1eIVTRXyDHryw
Glue Tawk™: Kristen uses "Sure Bond" corded hot glue gun and sticks (rumor has it also comes in roll form like a too-long fingernail or ram's horn)
“An artist discovers his genius the day he dares not to please.”
— André Malraux
Thank you, Kristen! Thank you, Listeners!
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Ep 76: Feeling Witchy
Dear Listeners, it's spooky season. In that spirit, I offer you this mini episode about taking a mini break from the career grind. Why not instead light a spell candle while getting clear on what we really want? Shelve the "should's" for a bit and get witchy with me.
The ending "Goodbye!" (with cacophonous lighting zaps) is Bette Midler from the movie, Hocus Pocus - Iconic Icon.
Thank you for listening.
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Ep 75: Burchfield's Constant Leaf
Charles Burchfield (Chas to his friends) once noted how an oak leaf had fluttered down and stuck upright in the snow in his neighbors yard, like a flag, for the entire winter. It weathered many Buffalo "gales" and storms and thereafter Burchfield used it as a personal symbol of steadfastness. In fact its alternate title is "Steadfast Leaf." The painting he made of it is attached here "Constant Leaf, also known as Steadfast Leaf" 1960, watercolor and graphite on paper.
And, speaking of leaves, I indulge in a short meditation on how the forest floor leaf litter reminds me of the mutual beneficence of a group of artist friends. Hope you enjoy!
Ep 74: William Shatner in Space (The Overview Effect)
Today I'm taking us on a space, art and space-art journey. Because, I've been thinking about how when William Shatner recently went up to space in Bezos' rocket, he saw in real life what he had always pretended to see on TV: space and the final frontier. But to his shock and horror, he...sort of hated it: At least he hated the outer space view. He quaked in the face of all that vast emptiness and ended up with a new appreciation for our warm "Mother" Earth.
I.e. "Beam me down, Scotty."
And in this way, I think an artist could adopt a William Shatner in Space ideology: and try to appreciate the gifts we each have right now (time, space, adequate health, and freedom to create), versus caving into the dark matter horrors of compare & despair, and worry over not achieving the right career benchmarks.
Artists/Works mentioned: "The Creation of the World and the Expulsion from Paradise" by Giovanni di Paolo (1445), "Galaxy (Hydra)" Vija Celmins (1974), "The Moon Museum" Robert Rauschenberg, David Novros, John Chamberlain, Claes Oldenburg, Forrest Myers and Andy Warhol (Possibly sent on the Apollo 12 Moon Mission-1969), "The Wave" by Astronaut, Nicole Stott (2009)
William Shatner's book: "Boldly Go: Reflections on a Life of Awe and Wonder"
Frank White's book: "The Overview Effect"
More about Astronaut, Nicole Stott's first-ever painting in space: http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-070816b-astronaut-artist-nicole-stott.html
More about The Moon Museum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_Museum
Thank you for listening!
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Ep 73: Some Thoughts on Drawing (Part 2)
We're back!
This is the second part of our deep dive on drawing. I asked my artist-guests: Jennifer Coates, David Humphrey and Catherine Haggarty to bring along a fave drawing from art history to share and describe what "drew" them to it (please forgive the pun). It was so fun to see what they selected.
See images of all of the works on IG @peptalksforartists
The drawings discussed were:
1) "The Grotto of Neptune in Tivoli" ca 1640 by Claude Lorrain
2) Rocks near the caves above Château Noir (Rochers à Bibémus) 1895/00 by Paul Cézanne, Watercolor on paper 18¼ by 12 in.
3) "Moon and Clouds" 1945 by George Ault
4) Ledger Drawing ca. 1875-78 attributed to William Cohoe, Cheyenne, Central Plains, Inscribed "Cheyenne Soldiers"
Find my guests online here:
David Humprhrey: web and IG
Jennifer Coates: web and IG
Catherine Haggarty: web and IG
See more Ledger Drawings at DonaldEllisGallery.com:
https://www.donaldellisgallery.com/offerings/plains-indian-drawings
Artists also mentioned: Georges Seurat ("Monkey"), Alexander Cozens, Caspar David Friedrich, Julia Gleich (choreographer)
Books mentioned: "Lake Superior" by Lorine Niedecker, "Keeping Time: Plains Indian Ledger Drawings 1865-1900" (pub by Donald Ellis Gallery)
Catherine's show "Just Drawing" online at Geary Contemporary: https://geary.nyc/exhibition/just-drawing-catherine-haggarty/
You can watch the original IG Live video of my guests' panel talk at Geary here: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9qMilKRs-f/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Thank you for listening!
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Ep 72: Some Thoughts on Drawing (Part 1)
Join me and my guests: Jennifer Coates, David Humphrey and Catherine Haggarty as we discuss the topic of Drawing this week. This discussion was broken up into 2 parts, so keep an eye out for Part 2 coming soon.
In Part 1, we discuss the drawing state of mind, drawing as a form of safety, as a tie to our primitive origins, and as a way to express the multitudes of self. We also dissect painter, Amy Sillman's analogy that Draw-ers are beavers and Painters are birds.
Find my guests online here:
David Humprhrey: web and IG
Catherine Haggarty: web and IG
Catherine's show "Just Drawing" online at Geary Contemporary: https://geary.nyc/exhibition/just-drawing-catherine-haggarty/
Amy Sillman's lecture "Drawing in the Continuous Present" at the Menil Collection can be watched here on youtube: https://youtu.be/BLOgc466nRk?si=RfJ8B0lSD5Sz1OF6
You can watch the original IG Live video of my guests' panel talk at Geary here: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9qMilKRs-f/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Artists mentioned: Amy Sillman, Sun You, Gary Stephan, The paleo artists of Peche Merle Cave in France, Thomas Nozkowski, Amanda Nedham, Miranda July (interview)
Thank you for listening!
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Ep 71: How Often Do You Think About the Fall of the Roman Empire?
...or the future of our own cultural output? Dear Listener, please enjoy this space-y, star-filled Mini Pep about the infinite freedom that comes from making digital doodles.
My Threads App artists doodle harvest can be found here: https://www.threads.net/@talluts/post/CucE58OLSwU/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Artists mentioned: Sharon Butler (see all of her digital drawings by searching the hashtag #sbgoodmorningdrawings on IG), Paul Dagostino, Joe Haley, John Avelluto, Keisha Prioleau Martin
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Ep 70: When in Doubt - Delulu is the Solulu
This episode is based on an internet slang mantra which translates to "Delusion is the Solution." Find out why healthy artists rely heavily on healthy self-delusion to self-motivate. Like Comedian, Nina Oyama, says, one must create a "self deception turducken" to persevere in a creative pursuit.
I also threw in Lady Gaga, David Shrigley and even Salvador Dali who all had excellent quotes.
Signed,
Amy
Your Quote-&-Internet-Meme Magpie
Reading/Watch Links:
Dali's appearance on "What's Your Line:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXT2E9Ccc8A&t=304s
Grace Dow "The Artist and the Ego:" https://eruanna317.medium.com/the-artist-and-the-ego-e7ccdbc8e3c5
Nina Oyama "Confessions of a Delusional Artist:" https://www.killyourdarlings.com.au/article/confessions-of-a-delusional-artist/
Alexa Rae Smith on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexaraesmith/video/7279446633346010410?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7329325629496772127
Thank you!
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Ep 69: Eva Hesse, Sylvia Mangold & The Home Depot
This is my hot take on the seven-year-old (it's new to me!) Eva Hesse doc and the scandalous revelations contained within. Also, I receive further evidence for why we still stan our queen, Sylvia Mangold, as she asks: Is the Home Depot the new Canal Street?
The #cerebral, #inspiring and #wondrous documentary, Eva Hesse (2016) directed by Marcie Begleiter, is available to rent/stream on Amazon.
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Bonus: State of the Peps Union
Some ch-ch-changes are coming to Pep Talks! I am going to be taking a break from interviews for a while to focus on studio work, but will still be releasing monthly solo episodes while I'm away.
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you! Thank you to all of the wonderful artists who have allowed me to interview them thus far: you've enriched me! Thank you to my terrificly terrific cohost trio: Jennifer Coates, Mandolyn Wilson Rosen and Elisabeth Condon. You are, all three, shining lightbulbs of brilliance and wit. Thank you also to the ride-or-die Patreon Peerage monthly podcast supporters: appreciate Y'all. And a hearty thanks to all that have reviewed the pod, bought me a coffee or simply listened! You are cherished.
For those about to art, I salute you. I'm off for a bit. Hope you enjoy the scheduled solo episodes to come!
In the meantime, you can catch up with me here:
Amy, your beloved host, on IG: @talluts
Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/
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Ep 68: Interview w/ Artist, Frederick Hayes
So excited to welcome Artist, Frederick Hayes, to the podcast this week. Fred makes graphite drawings and paintings of faces, and he also creates found-material assemblage sculptures that portray the psychological interior of his subjects. Half made up and half based on the street photos that he takes, his portraits conjure up a community of people. These heads function as general archetypes but also as familiar faces that Fred might see in his community, remember from his past, or have seen in the media as victims of racial injustice. Fred Hayes is also an artist who studiously avoids being pigeonholed, and I loved hearing about how he prioritizes freedom in his varied studio practice.
Find Frederick Hayes online:
IG: https://www.instagram.com/fhay_00/
WEB: https://www.fredhayesstudio.com/
2023 Lillian Orlowsky and William Freed Grant-Winners Exhibition at PAAM (thru 6/16/24, Provincetown): https://paam.org/the-2023-artist-grant-recipients/
This episode is kindly sponsored by the New York Studio School. Check out their June-July 2024 Summer Marathon courses here: nyss.org
Artists mentioned: Henri Matisse, Emil Nolde, Cartier Bresson, Robert Rauschenberg, Margaret Kilgallen, Terry Hoff & Chris Johanson of the Mission School / Luggage Store Gallery, Max Beckmann
Frederick Hayes has exhibited work at Triple Candie, the Studio Museum, Hallwalls Contemporary, New Museum, San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, San Jose Museum, San Diego Museum of Contemporary Art, Addison Gallery of American Art, DeSaisset Museum, Boston University, Number 35, and the Luggage Store and Patricia Sweetow Gallery in San Francisco, CA. Hayes has held residencies at MacDowell, VCCA, LMCC and The Headlands Center for the Art.
He is the recipient of a 2020 NYFA-NYSCA Fellowship in Printmaking/Drawing/Book Arts, a 2012 & 2001 Pollack-Krasner Grant, a 2010 Robert Blackburn Workshop Studio Immersion Program Fellowship, a 2000 San Francisco Art Commission Individual Artist Grantand his work is in the collection of the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, the New Museum of Contemporary Art, the Studio Museum in Harlem, the Addison Gallery of American Art, and UC Berkeley Art Museum
Thank you, Fred! Thank you Patrons and Listeners! Appreciate everyone! Check the pod out on IG! And why not review Peps on Apple Podcasts? Yay!
Find me, your beloved host, online at: amytalluto.com and @talluts
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Ep 67: Interview w/ "How to Work a Room" Author, Susan Roane
O M G. Hold onto your hats (and brooches)! The author of "How to Work a Room" is on the podcast! Susan RoAne, best-selling author and keynote speaker, joined Mandolyn Wilson Rosen and me to talk mingling and networking in the art world.
Down-to-earth, hilarious, and a true mensch, Susan continues to bring it as the "Mingling Maven." This is one episode you won't want to miss! We had so much fun!
Find Susan online:
IG: @susanroane
FB: Susan RoAne
Twitter: @susanroane
Email: susan @ susanroane .com
Get Susan's books:
"Face to Face: How to Reclaim the Personal Touch in a Digital World"
"The Secrets of Savvy Networking"
Mentions: Judith Briles (Author), Zoltan Korda (Hungarian screenwriter and director), Dr Deborah Tannen (Author), Dr Adele Scheele (Author & Speaker), Merl Ross (Artist), Seth Godin (Author), Christine Hannah (Author), Steph(en) Curry (Adorable), and Alex Edelman (Comedian)
Also mentioned: The Philadelphia Eagles and their delightfully cheeky "Tush Push"
More about Susan RoAne:
Named as one of Forbes.com Top 25 Networking Experts to Follow, Susan RoAne is known as "The Mingling Maven®". Susan leads a double life as a bestselling author and a sought-after entertaining keynote speaker who gives multi-generational audiences the required tools, practical techniques and strategies they need to connect and communicate in today’s global business world.
A former public school teacher, Susan RoAne is a Chicago born and bred fan of Deep Dish Pizza who now resides in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Her groundbreaking best-seller, How to Work a Room® —with over a million sold worldwide— launched an industry. She also wrote The Secrets of Savvy Networking & Face To Face: How To Reclaim The Personal Touch in A Digital World.
Clients include: Kraft, LinkedIn, Apple, Bank of America, Hershey Foods, US Air Force, the NFL, American Bar Assn, Deloitte Touch, National Fire Chiefs Assn.
A former public school teacher Susan also guest lectures at major universities including: University of Pennsylvania, Wharton School, Stanford University, University of Maryland, University of Chicago-Booth School, University of Texas Law School, University of Illinois MBA program, NYU’s Summer Publishing Institute and Emerson College.
Find Mandolyn Wilson Rosen online at: mandolynwilsonrosen.com and @mandolyn_rosen
Find me, your beloved host, online at: amytalluto.com and @talluts
Thank you, Susan! Thank you, Mandy! Thank you Patrons and Listeners! Appreciate everyone! Check us out on IG! Review us too on Apple Podcasts!
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Ep 66: Interview w/ Artist, Philemona Williamson
So excited to share this fantastic interview with artist, Philemona Williamson! Find out more about Philemona's vibrant paintings that show twisting, gender-bending adolescents "up to stuff," and her fascinating ambiguous poetic sense of narrative (and also why I have appointed her an Honorary New Orleanian!). Philemona also grew up in a famous Art Deco building in NYC, and her childhood stories are not to be missed.
Works mentioned: "Branching Eyes" 2023, "The Gathering" 2021, "Verbena Street 2" 2022, "Snow Interrupted" 2021
More info about Philemona Williamson:
Philemona's website: https://www.philemonawilliamson.com/
Philemona on IG: https://www.instagram.com/philemona8/
Her MTA Fused Glass Panels at Livonia Ave, Queens (L train): https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/artwork_show?206
Current/Upcoming Exhibitions:
June Kelly Gallery, NYC, Apr 18 - June 4, 2024: https://www.junekellygallery.com/williamson/index.html
Passerelle, Centre d'art contemporain d'intérêt national, Brest, France, June-Aug 2024:
https://www.cac-passerelle.com/expositions/en-cours/
In "Century: 100 Years of Black Art at MAM" Montclair Art Museum, NJ, Through July 7, 2024: https://www.montclairartmuseum.org/exhibition/century-100-years-black-art-mam
Philemona Williamson has exhibited her work for over 25 years at the June Kelly Gallery in NYC and recently, at her mid-career retrospective at the Montclair Art Museum in NJ. She is the recipient of numerous awards and residencies including the Joan Mitchell Foundation, Pollock Krasner, National Endowment For The Arts, New York Foundation For The Arts and Millay Colony as well as serving on the advisory board of the Getty Center for Education. Her work has been shown in many solo and group exhibitions such as The Queens Museum of Art, Wisconsin’s Kohler Art Center, The Sheldon Museum in Nebraska, The Bass Museum in Miami, The Mint Museum in North Carolina, The Forum of Contemporary Art in St. Louis, The International Bienal of Painting in Cuenca, Ecuador and most recently at the Anna Zorina Gallery in NYC.
She is represented in numerous private and public collections, including The Montclair Art Museum; The Kalamazoo Art Institute; The Mint Museum of Art; Smith College Museum of Art; Hampton University Museum; Sheldon Art Museum; Mott-Warsh Art Collection, and AT&T. Her public works includes fusedglass murals created for the MTA Arts in Transit Program at the Livonia Avenue Subway Station in Brooklyn, a poster for the MTA Poetry In Motion and — for the NYC School Authority — a mosaic mural in the Glenwood Campus School. She currently teaches painting at Pratt Institute and Hunter College in NYC.
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Ep 65: Monsters and Beautiful Things
What do a comment made on the Great British Bake-Off, a 1970's television interview with southern author, Eudora Welty, and a Michigan Mer-man have in common? Glad you asked! They all explore ideas of monstrousness, the topic of this episode -- specifically channeling our inner monstrous creative selves to create work that is rich, bold, memorable and unique.
[Evil laugh of Nosferatu]
Come along with me on my search for aspirational creative monstrosity.
Television programs mentioned:
"Great British Bakeoff:" Season 11, Episode 3, Rowan Claughton with Paul Hollywood
"Firing Line" with William F. Buckley: "The Southern Imagination in Literature" 1972 with Eudora Welty and Walker Percy
Artists mentioned: Francisco José de Goya, Jean Dubuffet, James Ensor, Francis Bacon, The Monster Roster group (Chicago), Brenda Goodman ("Self-Portrait 2” 1994), Steve DiBenedetto ("Rosemary's Baby's Baby" 2021), Whit Harris ("Maiden" 2023) and Louise Bourgeois ("Femme" 2006)
Publications mentioned: "Where Is the Voice Coming From" a short story by Eudora Welty, "Art Monsters: Unruly Bodies in Feminist Art" book by Lauren Elkin, "Monsters of the Midwest: True Tales of Bigfoot, Werewolves & Other Legendary Creatures" book by Jessica Freeburg and Natalie Fowler
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Ep 64: Interview w/ Jesse Bransford
This week, painter and installation artist, Jesse Bransford, joins me to discuss his magic and occult-inspired work.
We discussed the meanings behind the sigils and circles he embeds in his work, his fascination with the magician Surrealist, Kurt Seligmann, and his thoughts on the role of the artist as a practitioner of vision, generosity and belief.
Find Jesse Bransford online at:
web: https://www.jessebransford.com/
ig: @jessebransford
get his book: UK: https://fulgur.co.uk/books/fourthandfifthpyramids/?v=7516fd43adaa / US: https://namepublications.org/item/2023/jesse-bransford-the-fourth-and-fifth-pyramids/
octagon house: https://www.chronogram.com/home/a-wayward-spirit-finds-home-16469398
Hyperallergic article by Allison Meier about "Language of the Birds: Occult and Art," New York University’s 80WSE Gallery: https://hyperallergic.com/270566/recreating-the-magic-circle-of-a-surrealist-seriously-into-the-occult/
Kurt Seligmann's Magical Evening: https://rmc.library.cornell.edu/surrealismandmagic/exhibition/images/200pxw/SAM_528.jpg
Kurt Seligmann's Book: "Mirror of Magic"
Maurice Tuchman's Book: "The Spiritual in Art: Abstract Painting 1890-1985" (find on ebay or amazon)
More about Jesse:
Jesse Bransford is a New York-based artist whose work is exhibited internationally at venues including The Carnegie Museum of Art, the UCLA Hammer Museum, PS 1 Contemporary Art Center and the CCA Wattis Museum among others. He holds degrees from the New School for Social Research (BA), Parsons School of Design (BFA) and Columbia University (MFA). A professor of art at New York University, Bransford's work has been involved with belief and the visual systems it creates since the 1990s. Work has been presented in books from Fulgur Press, “A Book of Staves (Galdrastafabók),” and most recently “The Fourth and Fifth Pyramids.” He lectures widely on his work and the topics surrounding his work. He is the co-organizer of the biennial Occult Humanities Conference and an editorial member of the Black Mirror Network.
Thank you, Jesse! Thank you, Pep Talks Patrons!
Thank you to my sponsor The Pack Art School: https://thepack.art/artistrebirthcycle
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Ep 63: Book Talks: The Artists Way by Julia Cameron (Part 2) w/ Mandolyn Wilson Rosen
We're back with Part 2 of our review of "The Artists Way" by Julia Cameron! In this half of our deep dive into the book, Mandolyn Wilson Rosen and I finish recounting our experiences following the program of this famous creativity self-help juggernaut.
Today in Part 2, we discuss:
1. Sychronicity & Carl Jung
2. Our personal artist dates
3. What writing the Morning Pages felt like
4. Things in The Artist's Way that we disliked
5. “Clusters” & those who charge to run AW groups
6. Amy's "The Artist's Way Cringe Corner™"
7. And more insights from Julia Cameron's autobiography: "Floor Sample."
Mandy's mentions:
American Masters: "Everybody Knows … Elizabeth Murray" (PBS)
Alan Watts Being in the Way Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/3RZiM62g8XYE4PuEF2EleN?si=5a58f0c5df8d4c1f
Alison Bechdel Graphic Novels: https://dykestowatchoutfor.com/
Critical blogs that we referenced:
Kore Sage Blog: https://koresageart.com/blog/reading-deprivation-week-the-artists-way/
From Jenn Blog: https://www.fromjenn.com/blog/why-i-dont-write-morning-pages-and-what-i-do-instead
Please find Mandolyn Wilson Rosen online here: mandolynwilsonrosen.com and IG @mandolyn_rosen
Thank you, Mandy! Thank you Patrons! Thank you Peps Listeners!
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Ep 62: Book Talks: The Artists Way by Julia Cameron (Part 1) w/ Mandolyn Wilson Rosen
Book Talks is back! And so is artist, Mandolyn Wilson Rosen, to help me tackle the OG creativity self help book: "The Artist's Way" by Julia Cameron. We gave ourselves over body and soul to The Way for 12 weeks and lived to tell the tale...in two parts. Please join us as we share our experiences with the book (and some sprinkled-in context gleaned from Cameron's autobiography "Floor Sample").
Today in Part 1, we discuss:
1. Each of our favorite sections/quotes
2. The most challenging parts of doing the book (morning pages, tasks, artist's dates, the chapter readings
3. How “good” were we at doing all TAW parts?
4. The God Question. Is there too much God talk in there?
5. Personal revelations about our work or ourselves that came from doing the book
And don't miss the second part of our convo (Part 2-Ep 63) out now!
Please find Mandolyn Wilson Rosen online here: mandolynwilsonrosen.com and IG @mandolyn_rosen
Thank you, Mandy! Thank you Patrons! Thank you Peps Listeners!
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Ep 61: Some Thoughts on "Portrait Artist of the Year" the British TV Show
This episode is all about a fascinating British TV art reality show that I once gleefully watched completely pirated, through the kindness of Cherzo, a modern day Robin Reddit-Hood. You can check out the show: "Portrait Artist of the Year" on Amazon, if you are so intrigued!
Artists mentioned: Alice Neel, Frederick Hayes, and Tai Shan Schierenberg (Judge for the show).
Thank you, Listeners! Thank you, Pep Talks Patrons!
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Ep 52: Book Talks: "Lives of the Artists" by Giorgio Vasari (Part 1) w/ Mandy Wilson Rosen
Artist, Mandolyn Wilson Rosen, is back with me for another Book Talks episode! In this episode, we are reading Giorgio Vasari's "Lives of the Artists," published 1550/1568 which profiles famous High Renaissance, mostly Florentine artists such as Michelangelo, Raphael, Boticcelli, and a few lesser-knowns. We were so excited about the book that we ran deliciously long and decided to cut it up and make it a two-parter.
In Part 1, we cover Vasari's takes on Giotto, Masaccio, Piero Della Francesca, Paolo Uccello, Fra Filippo Lippi, and Madonna Properzia de Rossi (the only woman in the book, and who was even left out of Mandy's earlier English translation!) Part 2 is coming right up - please keep an eye out.
Shout out to artist and writer, Elisabeth Nicula, who we quoted in the episode, and to the books that helped form Vasari's masterwork: "The Decameron" by Giovanni Boccaccio and "The Life of Brunelleschi." Also, a tip of the cap to the Virgin's Holy Girdle of Prato, shown to the public only 4 times a year: https://irenebrination.typepad.com/irenebrination_notes_on_a/2017/07/girdle-cintola-prato.html (Really, no one can out-weird the Catholics)
The book is available widely, both used and new! We recommend a skim, not a binge.
Find Mandolyn Wilson Rosen online at: https://mandolynwilsonrosen.com/
Thank you to artist, Amy McCormac, for your kind Buy Me A Coffee donation this month!
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Ep 53: Book Talks "Lives of the Artists" by Giorgio Vasari (Part 2) w/ Mandy Wilson Rosen
We're baaacckk! Mandolyn Wilson Rosen and I have returned for Part 2 to finish our report on Giorgio Vasari's "Lives of the Artists," a combo-bio of Florentine High Renaissance artists from the 1580's. Pull up a carved high-backed chair, grab yourself a goblet of watered-down wine and join us for the continuation of our journey back to this fabled time in Italian art.
In Part 2, we cover Sandro Botticelli, Leonardo da Vinci, Raphael, Jacopo da Pontormo, Michelangelo, and Titian (with some discussion of Albrecht Durer as well). In the Boticelli section, Mandy references this article by Alexxa Gotthardt on Artsy: https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-botticellis-birth-venus-challenged-depictions-nude-art
Please visit our sponsor, The New York Studio School, to enroll for their wonderful Marathon courses (by Sept 8) or for over a dozen different 11 week Evening & Weekend Courses (by Sept 18) at NYSS.org
Find your own copy of "Lives of the Artists" by Giorgio Vasari at your public library or at most online bookstores. The 1991 English Translation by Julia and Peter Bondanella includes the lone woman artist in Vasari: Sculptor Madonna Properzia de Rossi. Earlier translations often exclude her, so keep an eye out if buying used!
Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is online here: website: https://mandolynwilsonrosen.com/home.html and IG: https://www.instagram.com/mandolyn_rosen/
Amy Talluto is online here: website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ and IG: https://www.instagram.com/talluts/
Thanks for listening!
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Amy's Interview on Two Coats of Paint: https://tinyurl.com/2v2ywnb3
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Ep 60: The Peppiest of the Peps (Plus an AI Play)
Happy Holidays! It's the Peppiest of the Peps! Please enjoy this collection of plummy sugar plum quotes by the some of the guests of Pep Talks Past. Some cherished encouraging words have been said over the years, and I have gathered them for us here.
Also, listen to the end to hear a 3 minute Shakespearean radio play I made with ChatGPT based on the podcast tagline: "to all those shuffling along the artists' road." Find out what a computer thinks will inspire us.
Thank you to all of the artists who were kind enough to let me interview them and also to those who have allowed me to pluck their bon-mots for this peppy parade of clips:
Artists and intreviews referenced in this episode:
Ep 11: Jennifer Coates
Ep 12: Sharon Butler
Ep 21: Emilia Olsen and Keisha Prioleau Martin
Ep 23: Portia Munson
Ep 26: Shari Mendelson
Ep 29: Ever Baldwin
Bonus Ep: How to Host a Studio Visit w/ Catherine Haggarty & NYC Crit Club
Bonus Ep: The Longevity of an Art Practice w Sarah Grass & The Pack Art School
Ep 35: Elizabeth Weiss
Ep 37: Paula Wilson
Ep 40: Natalie Beall
Ep 48: Catherine Haggarty
Ep 49: Julia Gleich
Ep 54: Judy Glantzman **
Ep 59: Elisabeth Condon
**To inquire about working with Judy Glantzman, please reach out via email: JudyGlantzman at gmail dot com or DM on IG @judyglantzman
A link to the ChatGPT play "Artists' Journey Unveiled" as written text: https://chat.openai.com/share/8a69d9a6-d7d6-4d2c-ad31-cb0f14b499c2
Music / FX:
"The Britons" © K MacLeod 2022 / Pixabay
Characters made with Voice Morphing/TTS: Altered AI
All other music and sound effects by Soundstripe
Thank you, Listeners! Thank you, Pep Talks Patrons!
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Ep 59: Interview w/ Elisabeth Condon
So happy to have painter (and sculptor!), Elisabeth Condon, back on the podcast on the eve of her solo show opening in Miami! A huge fan of her work, I was excited to learn more about her process and influences.
Catch her new work in person at:
"Tempus Fugit" Emerson Dorsch Gallery : Dec 3, 2023 - Feb 3, 2024
Untitled Fair / Emerson Dorsch / Booth A23: Dec 6-10, 2023
Elisabeth's works that we mentioned in this episode were: "Lupine" 2023, "Post-Epistemic Flower" 2023, "Forest" 2023, "Transporters" (Chairs) 2023, and "Dusk" 2023
Visit Elisabeth Condon online at:
Elisabethcondon.com or @elisabethcondon on IG
Visit Emerson Dorsch Gallery online at:
Emersondorsch.com/ or @emersondorsch on IG
Thank you, Elisabeth! Thank you, Listeners! And thank you so much, Patreon supporters and Buy Me a Coffee supporters!
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Peps has a Patreon! If you are a Peps fan and would love more pep talks in your life, please consider supporting the podcast financially on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists! For $5 a month, patrons receive exclusive mini Pep-isodes monthly or bimonthly, delivered directly to their email inbox with a clickable link. No tech savviness required! Also, patrons receive early access to not-yet-released full episodes, fresh out the oven. Join the Peps fam on Patreon and become a part of the Pep Talks Peerage today. Find out more here: https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists
Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
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Ep 58: Interview w/ Amy Talluto (Your Host Speaks)
Today, it's a brand new installment of the "Interview the Interviewer" series and I'm excited to reveal that this episode's Interviewee is ... me! Thank you so much to artist, Catherine Haggarty, for generously suggesting this collaboration and for asking such wonderful questions about my work.
More info about Amy (your beloved host's) work online: amytalluto.com and @talluts
Works mentioned (AT unless noted): "The Princesse de Broglie" (Ingres), "Bending Figure & Ingres Eye" 2023, "Rain Cloud" 2022, "Cloud (After Ingres) 1-3" 2023
Catherine Haggarty online: catherinehaggarty.com and @catherine_haggarty
Artists mentioned: Jennifer Coates, Phyllis Plattner, Louise Mouton Johnson, Frank Gross & Jean Pichotta Gross of NOCCA, Rita MacDonald, Ever Baldwin, Geoffrey Young, Dee Shapiro, Elisabeth Condon, Dona Nelson, Philip Guston, Judy Glantzman, Jean-Auguste-Dominique Ingres, Agnes Martin, Vija Celmins, Julia Gleich, Shari Mendelson, Courtney Puckett, Matisse, Betty Woodman, Charles Burchfield, Edvard Munch, Robert Rauschenberg, Kathe Bradford
Amy's fave podcast: Las Culturistas
Amy's fiery crucible of self help: Pep Talks for Writers, Wired to Create, Steal Like an Artist, On Art and Mindfulness, The War of Art, Art & Fear, The Artist's Journey: Bold Strokes to Spark Creativity, Make Art Not Content (Podcast), Big Magic
Thank you, Catherine! Thank you, Listeners! And thank you so much, Patreon supporters!
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Peps has a Patreon! If you are a Peps fan and would love more pep talks in your life, please consider supporting the podcast financially on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists! For $5 a month, patrons receive exclusive mini Pep-isodes monthly or bimonthly, delivered directly to their email inbox with a clickable link. No tech savviness required! Also, patrons receive early access to not-yet-released full episodes, fresh out the oven. Join the Peps fam on Patreon and become a part of the Pep Talks Peerage today. Find out more here: https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists
Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
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Ep 57: What We Can Learn from Comedians
Today I make the case that artists have a lot in common with stand-up comedians. Comics give excellent pep talks and advice to each other about staying the creative course and weathering career setbacks and I think we can benefit from eavesdropping on some of their road-honed wisdom.
Thank you to this episode's sponsor, The New York Studio School, for their support. Please check out their Fall MFA and Certificate Programs at nyss.org
Comedians quoted in the episode: Justine Marino, Caitlin Peluffo, Dan Bubitz/Art of Bombing Podcast, Janeane Garofalo, Maria Bamford, Todd Barry, Emma Tattenbaum-Fine, Paul F. Tompkins, Kyle Kinane, Beth Lapides, Joel Byars/Hot Breath Podcast, Johnny Carson,
Amy's fave comedians: Maria Bamford, Paul F Tompkins, Catherine Cohen, Todd Barry, Tig Notaro, Mae Martin, Jes Tom, Calvin Cato, Eman El-Husseini, Oscar Aydin, Hayden Johnson, Jaboukie Young-White
More info about Amy Talluto (your beloved host):
website: amytalluto.com instagram: @talluts
Peps has a Patreon! If you are a Peps fan and would love more pep talks in your life, please consider supporting the podcast financially on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists! For $5 a month, patrons receive exclusive mini Pep-isodes monthly or bimonthly, delivered directly to their email inbox with a clickable link. No tech savviness required! Also, patrons receive early access to not-yet-released full episodes, fresh out the oven. Join the Peps fam on Patreon and become a part of the Pep Talks Peerage today. Find out more here: https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists
Thank you for listening!
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Ep 56: The Munch Bunch
The band's back together! And this time, Elisabeth Condon, Jennifer Coates and I discuss "Edvard Munch: Trembling Earth," a recent Munch survey exhibition at the Clark Institute. We each chose a single painting/print to discuss within the context of Munch's Monistic melancholy, love of clumps, and repetitious reveries.
Thank you to The New York Studio School for sponsoring this episode. Deadlines for MFA/Certificate are approaching Jan 15.
Elisabeth spoke about: "White Night" oil on canvas 1901
Jennifer spoke about: "The Magic Forest" oil on canvas 1919-25
Amy spoke about "Towards the Forest II" color woodcut 1915
More info about the show at the Clark: https://www.clarkart.edu/exhibition/detail/edvard-munch-trembling-earth
Texts mentioned: "Munch: An Inner Life" by Oystein Ustvedt, "Edvard Munch: Trembling Earth" Clark Catalog, "The Private Journals of Edvard Munch: We Are Flames That Pour Out of the Earth" ed J. Gill Holland, Søren Kierkegaard's works: "Fear and Trembling" and "The Sickness Unto Death," "The Spiritual in Art: Abstract Painting 1890-1985" ed Maurice Tuchman
Artists/Writers mentioned: August Strindberg, Swedish playwright and novelist, Piet Mondrian, Martha Diamond, Sam Francis
Fiddle Factoid: Jennifer mentioned the Norwegian Hardanger fiddle (hardingfele) and its "troll tuning"
Online articles mentioned: "The Art of Repetition" by Martin Gayford for The Spectator & "The Soul Laid Bare" by Sue Prideaux for the Tate Museum online
Other Munch works mentioned: "The Scream" 1893, "The Sick Child" 1907, "Love and Pain" aka The Vampire 1895, "Death in the Sick Room" 1893, "Death Struggle" 1915, "Kiorsterud Garden of Asgaardstrand" 1905, "The Storm" 1893, "Girls on the Bridge" 1902
More info about Elisabeth Condon:
website: elisabethcondon.com | instagram: @elisabethcondon
Solo exhibition at Emerson Dorsch in Miami Dec 3
More info about Jennifer Coates:
website: jenniferlcoates.com instagram: @jennifercoates666
Solo exhibition at High Noon in NYC May 2024
More info about Amy Talluto (your beloved host):
website: amytalluto.com instagram: @talluts
Peps has a Patreon! If you are a Peps fan and would love more pep talks in your life, please consider supporting the podcast financially on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists! For $5 a month, patrons receive exclusive mini Pep-isodes monthly or bimonthly, delivered directly to their email inbox with a clickable link. No tech savviness required! Also, patrons receive early access to not-yet-released full episodes, fresh out the oven. Join the Peps fam on Patreon and become a part of the Pep Talks Peerage today. Find out more here: https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists
Thank you for listening!
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Ep 55: Let's Keep Thinking About Pollyanna
From Richard Diebenkorn's "Notes to Myself On Beginning a Painting," it's a special mystery-whodunnit pepisode where your host, Amy, tries to decipher the meaning of #8 on Diebenkorn's note.
Learn more about Diebenkorn and his work, including photos of him and his studio, at The Richard Diebenkorn Foundation: https://diebenkorn.org/
The novel, "Pollyanna," by Eleanor H. Porter is available at most bookstores and libraries and has also been made into at least 2 feature films.
The article "One Scuzzy Moment" by Robert Indiana for the New York Magazine 2004 can be found here: https://nymag.com/nymetro/arts/features/10557/
If you are a Peps fan and would love more pep talks in your life, please consider supporting the podcast financially on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists! For $5 a month, patrons receive exclusive mini Pep-isodes monthly or bimonthly, delivered directly to their email inbox with a clickable link. No tech savviness required! Also, patrons receive early access to not-yet-released full episodes, fresh out the oven. Join the Peps fam on Patreon and become a part of the Pep Talks Peerage today. Find out more here: https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists
Thank you!
Your beloved host
Amy's in a group show "In the Middle with You" at The Middle Room 2930 Hyperion Ave, Los Angeles, California thru Oct 20, 2023
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Peps has a Patreon!
If you are a Peps fan and would love more pep talks in your life, please consider supporting the podcast financially on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists! For $5 a month, patrons receive exclusive mini Pep-isodes monthly or bimonthly, delivered directly to their email inbox with a clickable link. No tech savviness required! Also, patrons receive early access to not-yet-released full episodes, fresh out the oven.
Join the Peps fam on Patreon and become a part of the Pep Talks Peerage today. Find out more here: https://www.patreon.com/PepTalksforArtists
Thank you!
Your beloved host
Ep 54: Interview w/ Artist, Judy Glantzman
Extremely thrilled to have the inimitable and infinitely wise #real_one, artist Judy Glantzman, on the podcast this week. We cover her artistic beginnings in the East Village scene of the 80's (buckle up for some great stories), the vibrant multidisciplinary work coming out of her Upstate NY studio today, and everything in between. Also, don't miss her incredible philosophies about making art sprinkled throughout, and her essential tips for beating Artist's block. Judy is a painter, collage artist and sculptor and has been awarded grants from the Guggenhein Foundation, NYFA-NYSCA, Pollock Krasner Foundation and Anonymous Was a Woman. She is also an educator (RISD, Pratt, NYSS, etc.) and is open to artists who need some online feedback-just dm her at the IG below.
Judy Glantzman is represented by Betty Cuningham Gallery in NYC. Also, find her on IG @judyglantzman
Works Mentioned:
The Pier (Abandoned Pier 34 in NYC) 1983-84
"The Missing Children Show" group mural installation with 5 other artists, incl David Wojnarowicz, in an abandoned factory building in Louisville, KY 1985
"Judy Glantzman Cuts Up Her Friends" 1985 exhibition of cut-out portraits at Steven Adams Gallery
"A Valentine for Lila" 2006
"She Juggles" 2006
"After Donatello" 2015
"Dark Prayer" 2016
"Reach" 2017
"Dawn Clements" 2019
More reading/links:
Essay "Judy Glantzman on Obituaries and Shadows | Art in Isolation" Painters on Painting blog 2020
Judy Glantzman interviewed on Beer with a Painter w/ Jennifer Samet for Hyperallergic blog
Hyperallergic article by Allison Meier with photos of The Pier
David Finn's photos of The Pier
Press kit from The Missing Children Show 1985 Louisville
Andreas Sterzing's photos of The Pier 1983-84
Artists mentioned: David Wojnarowicz, Mike Bidlo, John Fekner, Gordon Matta Clark, David Finn ("Masked Figures"), Kiki Smith, Huck Snyder, Peter Hujar Andreas Sterzing (photographer who documented the Pier), Charles Garabedian ("September Song," 2001 - 2003), Jacques Louis David, Francisco de Goya, Pablo Picasso ("Guernica"), Winslow Homer ("Dressing for the Carnival" 1877), Donatello, Charles Burchfield, Edgar Degas ("Little Dancer Aged 14" 1881), plus East Village galleries Civilian Warfare and Gracie Mansion
Judy's Artist's Block Blockers
(as summarized by Amy and her irrepressible need to be pithy):
1. Seed Theory (every part of a piece is a seed!)
2. Make a Doodle Painting *or* Make a Garbage Painting
3. Bravery Lives in the Living Room (and often in a basket!)
4. Nosy Nextdoor Neighbors
5. Be a Bad Art Student
6. Silly Geese Wear Paper Crowns
7. Your Work is Not Your Own
8. If You Think It, You Have to Make It
9. The Road to Freedom is Paved With Repetition (hot off the presses! in this ep!)
Thank you, Judy! Thank you, Listeners!
See you next time.
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Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
Amy's Interview on Two Coats of Paint: https://tinyurl.com/2v2ywnb3
Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Amy on IG: @talluts
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Ep 51: The Bonnardians w/ Jennifer Coates & Elisabeth Condon
This week I welcomed back Jennifer Coates and Elisabeth Condon to the podcast to discuss the recent exhibition "Bonnard: The Experience of Seeing" at Acquavella Gallery, NYC April 12 - May 26, 2023. We each chose a single painting from the show to discuss and so I'm calling us The Bonnardians. It's a Bonnard-a-trois! Come along for a hilarious, smart and nerdy look at this fascinating post-impressionist artist.
Paintings:
(1)
Jennifer Coates
Bonnard's "The French Door (Morning at Le Cannet)"
"La porte-fenêtre (Matinée au Cannet)"
1932 Oil on canvas 34 7/8 x 44 3/4 inches
See the painting: https://tinyurl.com/2v59ntey
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Elisabeth Condon
Bonnard's "Golden Hair"
"La Chevelure D'or"
1924 Oil on canvas 26 1/8 x 21 inches
See the painting: https://tinyurl.com/yc8ynu8m
(3)
Amy Talluto
Bonnard's "After Lunch/The Lunch"
"Apres le Dejeuner"/"Le Dejeuner"
1920 Oil on canvas 29 3/8 x 46 inches
See the painting: https://tinyurl.com/m9bnksf9
Find Jennifer Coates online: http://www.jenniferlcoates.com/ and on IG: @jennifercoates666
Recent and Upcoming shows: "Love Fest" Platform Project Space, "I Spy a May Queen" Contemporary Art Matters: Columbus, OH, Catskill Art Space with David Humphrey
Find Elisabeth Condon online: https://www.elisabethcondon.com/ and on IG: @elisabethcondon
Recent and Upcoming shows: Emerson Dorsch, Miami, Solo Dec 3, 2023, "Rainbow Roccoco" at Kathryn Markel, NYC, Norte Maar Brooklyn Mural, "Made in Paint" at The Golden Foundation in New Berlin, NY thru Aug 2023
Find Amy Talluto online: https://www.amytalluto.com/ and on IG: @talluts
Recent and Upcoming shows: "Cut Me Up" Albany International Airport, "Appearances" Strange Untried Project Space July 22-23, 2023
Artists mentioned: Hokusai, The Nabis, Arthur Dove (at Alexandre Gallery), The Steiglitz Circle, Pablo Picasso, J M W Turner, Claude Monet, Charles Burchfield
Books/Writers mentioned: Jed Perl "Complicated Bliss" The New Republic, Dita Amory "Pierre Bonnard: the Late Still Lifes and Interiors," Francoise Gilot "Life With Picasso," Lucy Whelan "Pierre Bonnard Beyond Vision," Mira Schor's essay "Figure Ground" in "M/E/A/N/I/N/G:An Anthology of Artists’ Writings, Theory, and Criticism," Mira Schor's "The Osage Tree"
Episodes mentioned: Ep 50: Elisabeth Condon Describes a Painting: Sam Francis' "Untitled", Ep 48: Interview w/ Catherine Haggarty
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Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Amy on IG: @talluts
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Ep 50: Elisabeth Condon Describes a Painting / "Untitled" (The Edge Series) 1968-69 by Sam Francis
The new definition of painterly success just might be having Elisabeth Condon describe your painting. It's truly that satisfying. Elisabeth is back on the pod to describe a painting, and it's a fascinating one: "Untitled" 1968-69 from the Edge Painting series by Sam Francis. Come along as Elisabeth takes us not only through the painting itself, but also through Sam Francis' life and influences: namely that of his beloved Japan. The concept of "ma" or the potential of emptiness, Asian ink painting, and Francis' unique anti-New York gentle lyricism all factor in to make this talk a riveting deep dive into this Californian-born, second-generation Abstract Expressionist artist.
See an image of the painting here: https://tinyurl.com/2c487tpr (photo by Christopher Knight/LA Times) and https://tinyurl.com/ms8uxyj2 (photo by Elisabeth Condon)
See Sam Francis at LACMA: "Sam Francis and Japan: Emptiness Overflowing" is up at LACMA in Los Angeles thru July 16, 2023
More about Sam Francis: https://samfrancisfoundation.org/
Find Elisabeth Condon online: https://www.elisabethcondon.com/ and on IG: @elisabethcondon
Check out her work in person at The Golden Foundation in New Berlin, NY in "Made in Paint" (thru Aug 2023) and her mural-sized work at the Judy Genshaft Honors College Building at the University of South Florida (permanent). She is also now preparing for a solo show in December 2023 at Emerson Dorsch Gallery in Miami.
Other writers and artists mentioned: Paul Jenkins, Joan Mitchell, Helen Frankenthaler, Morris Lewis, David Hinton (Chinese Art Scholar), Frida Kahlo, Arshile Gorky, Jackson Pollock, Marc Rothko, Pablo Picasso, Jean Miro, Paul Klee, David Park. Fernand Leger, Shirley Jaffe, Jean-Paul Riopelle, Georges DuThuit, Joan Mitchell, Ed Clark, Tachisme Abstraction Lyrique Movement, Jean Dubuffet, Wols, Norman Bluhm, Sherman Lee (Chinese Art Scholar), Sesshū (Sumi-e Master), Moby Dick by Herman Melville, Lee Ufan, Brice Marden, Monoha Group of Hawaii, Kiki Kokolvic, William Wilson (LA Times writer), Cecily Brown, Jackson Pollock, Steve DiBenedetto, Philip Guston, Nihonga Painting, Lisa Beck, Andrea Belag, Matthew Richie, Richard E. Speer (Art writer), Yoshiaki Tono
Materials mentioned: Magna Paint, Hoechst Dispersions, Flashe, Guerra Paint
Amy's show during Upstate Art Weekend: "Appearances" at the Strange Untried Project Space July 22-23, 11-6pm, More info: https://www.strangeuntried.com/ and on IG: @strange_untried
And the Cut Me Up Magazine collage exhibition at the Albany International Airport through Dec 2023.
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Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Amy on IG: @talluts
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Ep 49: Interview w/ Choreographer, Julia Gleich
Join me this week as I welcome esteemed Choreographer, Julia Gleich! Julia, with Jason Andrew, is the co-founder of Norte Maar in Brooklyn and co-produces a collaborative ballet series every year called CounterPointe. This year marked the exciting 10th anniversary of the project. The series features 7 dances created through intense collaboration between 7 women choreographers and 7 women visual artists. Visual artists participate the entire way through the process and even create props for the performance.
As a dance newbie, I asked her many questions about using the rectangle of the stage, the types of props she uses, how she picks the music, and even her thoughts on ballet and the patriarchy. We found so many parallels between dance and visual art, like the importance of courting chaos, breaking out of what's expected, and the importance of putting your head down and making the work no matter what.
Some links to learn more:
Julia's Website: Gleich Dances
Norte Maar: CounterPointe
Julia's Instagram: @juliagleichdances (see reels to watch 2020 "Shaking the Trees" at the Tang Museum)
Norte Maar Instagram: @nortemaar (see reels to watch all of "Counter Pointe 10" and "Colibri")
Julia's Vimeo: user7031442 (watch "Unis Mundi: Survival Ceremonies")
Julia's Ballet Class: Beginners' Ballet Class at Peridance NYC
Apply to CounterPointe: (as a choreographer or visual artist ): nortemaar@gmail dot com
Extra links: Mira Schor 's "A Year of Positive Thinking" Blog post: "The Osage Tree", and Nicole Cherubini & Meg Lipke at the Tang Teaching Museum
Julia's writings with Molly Faulkner appear in: the Oxford Handbook of Contemporary Ballet, an anthology for Intellect Books (Re)Claiming Ballet, and on vectors in the Dynamic Body in Space.
Dances mentioned: "Unus Mundi: Survival Ceremonies," w/ Meg Lipke University of Buffalo, "Colibri," w/ Tamara Gonzales CounterPointe 10/Mark O'Donnell Theater, "Shaking the Trees" w/ Nicole Cherubini & Meg Lipke Tang Teaching Museum, "100 Digits of PI" danced by Michelle Buckley
Dancers/Choreographers mentioned: Choreo: Serge Diaghilev & Vera Nemtchinova of Ballets Russes, Lynn Parkerson of Brooklyn Ballet, George Balanchine of New York City Ballet, Rudolf von Laban, Antony Tudor, Valerie Preston-Dunlop, Dancers: Gabrielle Lamb, Michelle Buckley, Audrey Borst, Timothy Ward, Kara Chen, Sara Jumper, Margot Hartley, Dianna Warren, Mikalla Ashmore, and shout out to all others who performed in the pieces we discussed
Artists mentioned: Tamara Gonzales, Meg Lipke, Nicole Cherubini, Etty Yaniv, Amanda Browder, Sharon Butler, Marc Chagall. Fernand Léger, Elisabeth Condon, Kiana Vega, Paula Part; also Fashion Designer, Liliana Casabal of Morgan Le Fay
Composers mentioned: Amery Kessler and Andrew Hurst
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Pep Talks on IG: @peptalksforartists
Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Amy on IG: @talluts
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Ep: 48 Interview w/ Artist, Catherine Haggarty
This week, I welcomed back, painter, Catherine Haggarty to the Peps pod. We spoke about her background as a high school basketball player and how the focus and commitment required to be an athlete have so many parallels to the life of an artist. Catherine makes luminous paintings and drawings using spray paint, acrylic, watercolor and oil stick of imagined domestic interiors, all put through her uniquely surrealist and prismatic lens. Also, find out what her term "Instagram Brain" means!
Catch Catherine's work in person in "Support Structures" at TSA (NY) until June 18, 2023
Catherine's website: www.catherinehaggarty.com and IG: @catherine_haggarty
The Canopy Program is online at www.nyccritclub.com or on IG: @the_canopy_program_
Catherine's uber-helpful How to Host A Studio Visit episode
Catherine earned her MFA from Rutgers University and has recently shown her work with Geary Contemporary and Hashimoto Contemporary in NYC and at Badr el Jundi Gallery in Madrid. She recently showed her work at Future Fairs in NYC with Lorin Gallery (Los Angeles)
Works mentioned: LA Light, Too Many Ideas, Monument to work, Droste Effect for Max
Artists mentioned: Jennifer Coates, David Humphrey, Japanese Ukiyo-e artists, Matisse, Sylvia Mangold, Rita MacDonald, Chardin, Mary Cassatt, Catherine Murphy, Jasper Johns, Edward Hopper, Méret Oppenheim, Andrew Prayzner
Book mentioned: Looking at the Overlooked: Four Essays on Still Life Painting by Norman Bryson
*Shout out to all the Hall of Fame Dads past and present and especially to James Bernard Haggarty, who was the Bee's Knees.*
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Pep Talks on IG: @peptalksforartists
Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
Amy's Interview on Two Coats of Paint: https://tinyurl.com/2v2ywnb3
Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Amy on IG: @talluts
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Mini Ep: Where is the Field of Dreams
This episode is a Mini! A little jalapeno popper for your ears and also a little nudge about putting ourselves out there more, being louder and taking up more space. Don't forget that the world needs our voices. You'll also learn more than you ever wanted about an obscure squishy baseball-type sport (played only in New Orleans and Chicago), which is adorably called "cabbage ball." Thanks for listening!
More info below about Paddy Johnson's nurturing artist career support program: Netvvrk
- Link to Register: https://www.vvrkshop.art/netvvrk
- Deadline: Sunday, May 14, 2023.
- Discount: $20 off with code: PEPTALKS20.
PS: If you have already signed up and didn't get the discount, you can do so retroactively! Just email Support@vvrkshop.art and mention "PEPTALKS20"
Find Paddy online (Netvvrk) https://www.vvrkshop.art/ and on Instagram @vvrkshop.art
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Pep Talks on IG: @peptalksforartists
Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
Amy's Interview on Two Coats of Paint: https://tinyurl.com/2v2ywnb3
Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Amy on IG: @talluts
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Bonus: 10 Tips for Writing Your Artist's Statement w/ Paddy Johnson of VVrkshop.art
Ready your note-taking typing fingers because this week's guest is none other than Paddy Johnson of VVrkshop.art and she's here to give us 10 best-practice tips for writing our artist statements, thank God! Paddy is the founder of Netvvrk, a supportive membership that helps artists level-up in their careers AND also an award-winning arts writer. She has edited a gazillion artists' statements in her program so she knows what's up. Come along with us as we deconstruct the ideal statement and dispel all whiffs of passive voice and artspeak.
Don't forget that Paddy is giving a free *Live* Masterclass on May 9th at 7:30pm ET called "How To Get Seen in the Art World." Click here to find out more/rsvp for the free masterclass: https://vvrkshop.lpages.co/get-seen-in-the-art-world-live-masterclass/
Also, Pep Talk listeners that join Netvvrk during the upcoming registration period can receive a $20 discount by entering the code: PEPTALKS20.
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Paddy's 10 Statement Writing Tips (in brief)
1) Create a Present/Past/Future hierarchy: Start with speaking about your present work, then past & then future
2) Describe the actual objects you make
3) Use plot to tell a story about your work's journey. Include "causality" and your "why": "The King died. Later, the queen died of grief"
4) Use the active voice and "I" statements
5) Unpack the metaphors in your work for the reader
6) Watch out for run-ons. No sentence should be longer than 2.5 lines in a Google Doc (Arial 11pt)
7) No more that 1 list per paragraph and no more than 3 items per list
8) Limit talk about your process to one sentence. Instead, focus on ideas
9) Length: People expect 2-3 paragraphs for a statement on your website. Don't forget to add a paragraph break after each 2 sentence block
10) Expect your statement to be ever-evolving (not static)
**Bonus 11** Write so that a 5th grader could understand and avoid artspeak / jargon (i.e. hegemony, praxis, Anthropocene).
Find Paddy online (Netvvrk) https://www.vvrkshop.art/ and on Instagram @vvrkshop.art
Artists mentioned: Elisabeth Condon, Hans Haacke, Vincent Van Gogh (Wheatfield with Crows), Charles Burchfield, Al Held, John Berger (Ways of Seeing)
Thank you, Paddy! Thank you, listeners!
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Pep Talks on IG: @peptalksforartists
Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
Amy's Interview on Two Coats of Paint: https://tinyurl.com/2v2ywnb3
Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Amy on IG: @talluts
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Ep 47: Let's Be Nothing Burgers
This episode is about letting play and non-seriousness back into our studios, with a dash of silly rabbits and mind-boggling space telescopes thrown in. Come along with me as I dive into the Nothing Burger state of mind.
Mentions: James Webb Telescope, Louella Parsons, Charles Garabedian, Rembrandt, Dick Gackenbach's "Mother Rabbit's Son Tom," Eva Hesse, Sol LeWitt
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Amy's in a group show "Blush" at Auxier Kline 19 Monroe Street NYC April 2-22, 2023!
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Pep Talks on IG: @peptalksforartists
Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
Amy's Interview on Two Coats of Paint: https://tinyurl.com/2v2ywnb3
Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Amy on IG: @talluts
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Ep 46: Dear Grete Stern...
This episode is a valentine of sorts... an homage to the German-Argentinian artist, Grete Stern, and how she snuck her incredible tragicomic feminist photomontages into a dream interpretation column into a 1950's Buenos Aires ladies' magazine during the reign of Peron and his Iron Fist. Cackle along with me as I take a deeper look at her hilariously sly and poignant photomontage illustrations. I'll also explain what exactly a photomontage is and how she constructed them - because it is extremely fascinating!
More reading:
Link to the 2015 MOMA show "From Bauhaus to Buenos Aires: Grete Stern and Horacio Coppola": https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/1441
New Yorker article: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/12/19/grete-sterns-rediscovered-dreams
Lapis: The Journal of the Institute of Fine Arts: https://wp.nyu.edu/lapis/grete-stern-amelia-russo/
Chopper Monster Blog post (in Spanish): https://choppermonster.com/idilio-una-revista-del-corazon-consultorio-psicoanalisis/
Stedelijk Studies Journal: https://stedelijkstudies.com/journal/a-new-womans-exile-in-buenos-aires-grete-sterns-photomontages-between-feminism-and-popular-culture/
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Amy's in a group show "Blush" at Auxier Kline 19 Monroe Street NYC April 2-22, 2023!
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Pep Talks on IG: @peptalksforartists
Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
Amy's Interview on Two Coats of Paint: https://tinyurl.com/2v2ywnb3
Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Amy on IG: @talluts
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Ep 44: Unblocking Creative Block
What do we do if we get blocked in the studio? It's the absolute worst feeling and we all occasionally come down with this fever plague. I'll look at some books, some artist-to-artist tips, explore the strangely-relevant history of sugar packets, mule labor and much more to give us some tips for busting through any annoying walls that have dared to spring up around our creativity.
Books mentioned: "Creative Block" by Danielle Krysa, "Wired to Create" by Scott Barry Kaufman and Carolyn Gregoire, "On Art and Mindfulness" by Enrique Celaya, "Your Creative Brain" by Shelley Carson
Artists mentioned: Agnes Martin, William Blake, Louise Bourgeois, Claude Monet, Shannon Rankin, Fiona Ackerman, Hollie Chastain
Benjamin Eisenstadt and the story of sugar packets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Eisenstadt
More about Mule Skinners: https://www.allthingsnature.org/what-is-a-mule-skinner.htm
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Pep Talks on IG: @peptalksforartists
Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
Amy's Interview on Two Coats of Paint: https://tinyurl.com/2v2ywnb3
Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Amy on IG: @talluts
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Ep 43: Elisabeth Condon Describes a Painting / "Tree of My Life" by Joseph Stella
Our beloved guest host and artist, Elisabeth Condon, and her series "Elisabeth Condon Describes a Painting!" are back for a new installment! This time Elisabeth chose to describe Joseph Stella's oil on canvas painting "Tree of My Life" from 1919 that she saw at The Norton Museum in "Joseph Stella: Visionary Nature." The show is traveling next to the High Museum and to the Brandywine Museum. It was an honor to have Elisabeth's wild and wonderful way of looking at painting again on the pod.
See "Joseph Stella: Visionary Nature" in person/online:
- Norton Museum (since closed): https://tinyurl.com/yhv3paaw
- High Museum (Feb-May 2023): https://tinyurl.com/szewk7f8
- Brandywine Museum of Art (June-Sept 2023): https://tinyurl.com/yry6cry4
- Barbara Rose's 1997 Essay "Flora" on Joseph Stella: https://www.tfaoi.org/aa/7aa/7aa792.htm
- Joseph Stella works mentioned: "Tree of My Life," "The Voice of the City of New York Interpreted," "Brooklyn Bridge," "Battle of Lights, Coney Island"
More About Elisabeth Condon:
- Web: https://www.elisabethcondon.com/ | IG: @elisabethcondon
- Solo at Emerson Dorsch Gallery late 2023: https://emersondorsch.com/artist/elisabeth-condon/
- Florida Art in State Buildings/Univ of South Fla, May 2023: https://tinyurl.com/5n8ycr8m
- Painting at Freight & Volume Gallery: http://www.freightandvolume.com/
Artists Mentioned: Philip Guston, 4 Gentlemen of the Orchid, Bamboo, Chrysanthemum & Plum, Chinese Scroll Painting, Charles Burchfield, Odilon Redon, Paul Gauguin's "Vision and the Sermon," Hieronymus Bosch, Dziga Vertov's "Man with a Movie Camera," Marcel Duchamp's "Fountain," Agnes Pelton, Henri Rousseau's Paris paintings, Umberto Boccioni & the Italian Futurists, Precisionists: Sheeler, Demuth & Schamberg, Patrick Henry Bruce, Diego Velázquez, Rembrandt, William Merritt Chase, Robert Henri, Alfred Stieglitz, Georgia O'Keeffe, Marsden Hartley
Writers mentioned: Barbara Rose, Immanuel Kant, Gaston Bachelard's "Poetics of Space," Henri-Louis Bergson, Lewis Mumford, Walter Conrad Arensberg, Gertrude Stein, Maurice Tuchman
Eps mentioned: #38 (Elisabeth Condon Describes a Painting #1) and #15 (Review of "Spiritual in Art: Abstract Painting 1890-1985")
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Pep Talks on IG: @peptalksforartists
Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s
Amy's Interview on Two Coats of Paint: https://tinyurl.com/2v2ywnb3
Amy's website: https://www.amytalluto.com/ Amy on IG: @talluts
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