Priced Out: The Podcast

Priced Out: The Podcast

By Priced Out Podcast
An ongoing series about gentrification, housing, race and class in urban America.

Join Andru and Cornelius as they share news, opinion and conversation about the most important issue facing U.S. cities: the gap between rich and poor.

This podcast is a companion to the documentary Priced Out: 15 Years of Gentrification in Portland, Ore. "When homes leaves you."

#pricedout #gentrification #gentrified #pdx

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EP 25: "There's Money in Poverty." How the Real Estate Game is Played
On Episode 25 we interview multifamily real estate investment broker Ru Budhi. He is a Filipino-American investment agent who worked at firms like Norris Stevens during the Portland's housing crisis. He understands how apartment buildings and condos get financed and why. He’s going to explain why we are having a housing crisis from the investor's point of view. Listen in as we talk financing, Glass-Stegall and why it seems to be in the landlord's interest that poor neighborhoods stay poor. Uncut interview on our YouTube Channel. Find Us at:
December 13, 2018
EP 24: Root Shock and the Emotional Impact of Gentrification
We talk with Michelle Lewis about the emotional and psychological impacts of gentrification and displacement known as Root Shock. Lewis is a mental health counselor who works specifically with the African American community in Portland, Ore. She was featured in our documentary Priced Out. In the film, she talked about losing her home in the subprime mortgage crisis and the challenges of living in a far-flung neighborhood that was often hostile to black residents. Lewis updates us on her recent experiences with gentrification and talks about how her black clients must often choose their battles carefully when they feel confronted by a racist exchange. The discussion gets personal as our hosts weigh in on their own experiences and thoughts. Find Us At
November 29, 2018
EP 23: Fighting Gentrification with Historic Preservation
An interview with Portland data activist Megan Hanson. Hanson is a complex data analyst who works with logistics software giant Oracle. After seeing alarming rent hikes and a wave of demolitions in her neighborhood, she started to investigate the Portland zoning code on her free time. She found that the State of Oregon required a public notification process before older homes could be demolished, but that the City of Portland was no longer enforcing these rules. As a result, developers were able to buy up cheap rental properties, evict tenants and knock them down. Hanson also helped create a multilayered data map designed to illustrate the impacts of Portland’s new proposal to up-zone 96% of the city. Join us as we get into the weeds of the intersectionality of affordable housing, demolitions, displacement, and historic preservation. For another point of view, check out EP 10: What is Zoning and the Residential Infill Strategy Find Us At Links- Residential Infill Strategy Data Map: What the National Home Builder’s Association really thinks of liberal opponents: ​ Residential Infill Project Displacement Risk map.,45.548,-122.6363,45.5687
November 15, 2018
EP 22: "I gentrified the neighborhood." Interview with Black Realtor [Pt 2]
We get into the weeds of neighborhood history once again with Fred Stewart, Portland's most controversial black activist. He grew up in Northeast Portland and has been a realtor in the neighborhood since the drug war days. In this the second part of two interviews, Fred talks about when he got into real estate during the depths of the 1980s Drug War, what it took to sell a house in the "ghetto", tax revolts, how he got around redlining and why he bought a strip club from a white man who called him " Fred Shit." In Part 1 of this interview, Fred covers redlining, urban renewal and the heyday of Portland's black neighborhoods. Fred has a deep history with Northeast Portland and is featured in Priced Out the movie. This is part of the "Cut Out" where we explore more from the people and POVs that were left out of the documentary Priced Out. Part 1 of Fred Stewart Find us at:
November 1, 2018
EP 21: Vote, Stupid! Midterm Elections & Portland Housing
This edition of the Priced Out Podcast Cornelius preaches on Abortion, the NRA and voting whether you like the results or not. The podcast endorses candidates and some vitally important ballot measures before the voters next month. Special guest Kari Lyons from the Welcome Home Coalition talks about the housing bond Measure 26-199 and a Measure 102 that would allow tax dollars spend on affordable housing to be massively amplified. Remember to get your ballots in! Find Us At
October 19, 2018
EP: 20: [Special Edition] Illegal AirBnBs Steal 1,500 Housing Units from Portland
Illegal Airbnbs could pull up to 1,500 housing units from Portland each year despite a new city clampdown, according data from the website InsideAirbnb. Cornelius and his friend Thacher Schmid just published an investigative report in Portland Mercury about illegal Airbnbs and their impact on the Portland housing crisis. In this special edition podcast, Cornelius and Thacher talk about their story, about the data they used, and why Portlanders still love Airbnb even though most seem to know hosts can make the housing crisis worse.
October 11, 2018
EP 19: The Language of Gentrification [pt 1]
What does the word gentrification actually mean? Did you know in the original definition of the word, gentrification it is always bad? It's never a good thing. What is "affordable housing?" versus "public housing?" Did you know the terms refer to very specific kind of housing that receive differing levels of taxpayer subsidy? Learn more about the language people use when discussing gentrification. #NerdAlert this will get wonky. More at:
October 5, 2018
EP 18: Journalism and Behind the Scenes of Priced Out (the documentary)
This edition of Priced Out: The Podcast is a discussion about the journalism behind the making of Priced Out (the documentary). Topics ranged from dealing with controversial sources, navigating government "obfuscation" and storylines in which both the government and the voters themselves are partially to blame. The talk was recorded at Migration Brewing Company in Northeast Portland and was sponsored by the local chapters of the Society of Professional Journalists, the Online News Association and Solutions Journalism. The Q&A was moderated by Sara Roth, an investigative web-based reporter for KGW NewsChannel8. The event featured sever long clips from the film. #pricedout #gentrification #pdx
October 3, 2018
EP 17: How a Black Realtor Sees Gentrification [pt 1]
Fred Stewart may be Portland's most controversial black activist. He grew up in Northeast Portland and has been a realtor in the neighborhood since the drug war days. He's twice run unsuccessfully for Portland City Council. His views are unconventional, and his style is confrontational. He claims to be a Democrat who continually blasts "white liberals" on everything from gun control (there's too much of it) to their inability to do more for blacks in Oregon (maybe the GOP would be better?). Fred has a deep history with Northeast Portland and is featured in Priced Out the movie. In this first of two parts (nonconsecutive) Fred talks about growing up in the neighborhood, crime, black business opportunities and challenges and people who made it big when the property values in the community started to climb. Part of the "Cut Out" series of POVS that were not adequately represented in the documentary Priced Out due to time limitations.
October 3, 2018
EP 16: The Battle for Rent Control in Long Beach, Calif.
This week we do a stylistic turn inspired by NPR shows like This American Life in order to cover the battle to get rent control on the ballot in Long Beach, California. Many people don't know that Long Beach is the sevenths largest city in California. Overshadowed by LA to the north and Orange County to the south, Long Beach is 60 percent renters - the highest rate in the state. We talk to Josh Butler of Housing Long Beach about their struggle to put rent reform on the ballot and their pitched battle against the shadowy group Better Housing for Long Beach. Butler describes their nemesis as an Orwellian, AstroTurf Group (instead of a grassroots group). The two fought it out for signatures in the streets of Long Beach. It got ugly and allegedly literally came to blows. We'll be down in Long Beach for a screening on Sept. 20th. If you are anywhere near Southern California and the world's largest urbanized area, come check the show out. More at:
October 3, 2018
EP 15: Nikki Williams: Racism, Gentrification and Black Community in Dallas
It’s been three years since Nikki Williams wrapped up her last interview for the documentary Priced Out. At that time, she had just moved to Dallas, Texas. She was fed up with Portland, Oregon, and what she called its “color blind“ and “passive-aggressive” racism. She was emotionally devastated by how her black community had been “obliterated” by gentrification. She sold her house and moved to Dallas in search of a new black community. She wanted to live in a neighborhood where people looked like her, where people would treat her daughter and grandson with respect and dignity. So, what’s happened since then? Did she find a healthy black community? Did she become a gentrifier? What are the racial dynamics in Dallas like? Are they any better? Find more information about Nikki and the two films we’ve produced about her at
October 3, 2018
EP 14. Detroit: The fall of Capitalism and Democracy & The Return of the Kings.
Detroit is like a failed state. A place where capitalism has failed for half a century and where even local democracy collapsed after the city’s government was handed over to a federal manager. Much has been written about the city’s epic slow-motion decline and its sudden rise from the ashes. On the Priced Out Podcast we talk about how Detroit’s turn around has been funded and control by only four players, two billionaires families (the Illitch family and Dan Gilbert), one private entity (Mid Town Inc.), and one quasi-governmental body (the Detroit Land Bank). Between them, the city has been carved up into separate kingdoms governed by powers way beyond public accountability. But they are getting things done. New investment and jobs have poured into quarters like downtown and Midtown and are reshaping, restoring and rebuilding them. But the rebuilding is not happening everywhere and at what cost to the belief in power by and for the people?
October 3, 2018
EP 13: Gentrification Through the Eyes of a Gangster (former)
Today is the first part in a new series called LEFT OUT of Priced Out. We are going to cover a lot of issues, points of view, and stories that were not included in our 2017 documentary on gentrification Priced Out. In Episode 13, we are going to roll back, beyond Priced Out, to our first film, the 2002 gentrification documentary, NorthEast Passage: The Inner City and the American Dream. In that film, we watched Nikki Williams work with her neighbors and police to close down the drug houses on her block. But the film never asks the people in the “drug houses” what their view was. Today we hope to correct that with a truly fascinating talk with Rahsaan Muhamaad, a man who grew up in the black neighborhoods of Portland during the 1980s. He knew of Nikki and he knew the “trap houses” on her block because he was running drugs at the time. He describes the experiences of being in a “gang” in Portland before California gangsters started to move into town.
October 3, 2018
EP 12: Cornelius schools the nation's realtors
This week on the Priced Out podcast, a live recording of Cornelius Swart at Turn On, an annual lecture series sponsored the real estate branding and marketing firm 1000 Watt. The company brings in hundreds of their real estate clients from across the nation, include companies like Berkshire Hathaway, to wine them and dine them and treat them to two days of presentations from artists, industry leaders and interesting people. To Swart's surprise, company lead Marc Davidson invited him to talk about gentrification. Here is the unedited presentation. Priced Out: The Documentary
October 3, 2018
EP 11: St Louis is UnGentrified
Episode 11 of Priced Out the Podcast is about the great city of St. Louis, MO. The city is a wonderful place with great people and a lot of new potential. There is new energy and growth going on, but the city has a long and troubling past and continues to be challenged by vast poverty, discrimination and neglect. We talk with two residents Rebeca Carlos, host of the podcast Explain to Me and artist and community activist Kevin Hopkins. We talk about the city's deep history of segregation, the Delmar Divide, the Riots of 1916, the poverty and abandonment of East Louis Louis and North St. Louis White Flight in Spanish Lakes and speculate if big property owners are playing games and driving down land values like they have done in Detroit. We also talk about the early signs of gentrification or "revitalization" in the Delmar Loop, Benton Park, South City the Grove and elsewhere.
October 3, 2018
EP 10: What is Zoning? And the Residential Infill Strategy.
Zoning determines what can and cannot be built on a given piece of property. It's a powerful tool that has been used to promote segregation, concentrate poverty and spur investment in neighborhoods across the country for the last 100 years. The stuff of epic NIMBY battles, this dry subject comes alive thanks to special guest Michael Andersen, a senior fellow at Sightlines Institute, a progressive think tank dedicated to sustainable community growth and development. We talk about zoning's dark history as well as the modern way progressives try to use zoning to build walkable alternatives to sprawl. Zoning changes can increase affordable housing in a neighborhood, but it can also bring in new rich residents and become a "can opener" for gentrification. TIP: When a zone change is proposed in your area, look to see who for it and how is against it and money those groups stand to make.
October 3, 2018
EP. 9: How do filmmaker's portray gentrifying communities?
This week on the Priced Out Podcast we discuss how filmmakers portray the character of a gentrifying community. The discussion was at NW Documentary in Portland, Oregon, after the screening of a film about gentrification in Detroit entitled Last Days of Chinatown. The discussion is with Last Days director Nicole MacDonald as well as Sika Stanton, co-director of The Numbers, a short film about East Portland, and Priced Out director Cornelius Swart. Priced Out: The Documentary The Numbers NW Documentary More on Nicole MacDonald And the Last Days of Chinatown Priced Out: The Documentary
October 3, 2018
EP 8: Election and Housing MegaPod [ Part 2 ]
This edition of the Priced Out we have an hour-long show packed with conversations about housing and the upcoming election in Oregon. We talk with Rachel Monahan, housing and City Hall Reporter for the Willamette Week. We talk about Portland's housing relocation fee, landlords in the legislature and the primary battle of Democrat Rod Monroe. Part 2 of our conversation with Alissa Keny-Guyer, talking about Rod Monroe and Republican Julie Parrish. (NOTE: Julie Parrish's office did not respond to a request for an interview). Lastly, we talk with Portland City Hall candidate Andrea Valderrama about her views and solutions to the city's housing crisis. Valderama is currently senior policy advisor for Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler and sits on the David Douglas School District board. More about the other candidates running for Position 3 on Portland City Council.
October 3, 2018
EP. 7: The Gentrification of Nashville
Nashville has been described as the South's New Metropolis and an "it" city. In 2016, 100 people a day moved to this city known as the capital of the country music industry. Nashville's growth roughly parallels what has happened in Portland, Oregon, a formerly sleepy, midsized town on the West Coast now congested with new development, residents, and diversified industries. As we see with other cities around the country, Nashville's growth has been directed into central city and historically black neighborhoods that are close to downtown and have walkable scale development. In 2016, there were over 1,000 residential demolition permits in Nashville. That's roughly three homes demolished each day. Some central neighborhoods saw between 200 and 300 demolitions, with one or more units going in to replace each destroyed home. We talk with folks about Nashville and our first gentrification film NorthEast Passage.
October 2, 2018
EP. 6: Gentrification in Boston
In this podcast we discuss stories of displacement, the negative health impacts inherent with displacement, Portland’s right-to-return policy, the creative class and activism in Portland, and the Fair Housing Act. City Life/Vida Urbana
October 2, 2018
EP. 5 Gentrification, Skid Row and Downtown LA
Join Cornelius as he has an in-depth discussion with John Malpede about gentrification in and around L.A.'s Skid Row. Malpede is the founding artistic director of the Los Angeles Poverty Department. Links Skid Row the Documentary Skid Row Museum LA Poverty Department Skid Row Housing Plan Downtown LA 2040 Plan Priced Out: The Documentary
October 2, 2018
EP. 4 : 2018 Ore. Legislature and the Housing Crisis Part 1
Join host Cornelius Swart for part 1of an in-depth conversation with Oregon State Rep. Alissa Keny-Guyer of House District 46. They discuss upcoming bills to help fund affordable housing, "rent control"l vs "rent stabilization," coming to the defense of state senator Rod Monroe and more. Priced Out: The Documentary
October 2, 2018
EP 3: Priced Out The Podcast: Tulsa
On this episode of Priced Out: The Podcast we visit Tulsa Oklahoma the former home of co-host Andru Morgan. Tulsa has had a troubled past with race relations and Cornelius and Andru will discuss that history as well as the current community issues including gentrification. They also speak with Kirk Wester the executive director of Growing Together. Kirk gives great insight into the Kendall Whittier neighborhood of Tulsa and how his program is helping lead the charge for gentrification with justice. Andru and Cornelius also continues their conversation about The Black Panther movie and give their own review! Priced Out: The Documentary
October 2, 2018
EP: 2 Priced Out discussion after SEI Screening
On this episode of Priced Out: The Podcast Andru flies solo as he shares clips from the SEI Q&A. Self Enhancement Inc screened Priced Out: The Documentary back in February as part of their film series. We know Priced Out: The Documentary can bring up a lot of raw emotions and the Q&A session allows a safe place for people to process those emotions. Listen in on this episode but be sure to catch the next screening of Priced Out and join in on the conversation too. SEI Priced Out: The Documentary
October 2, 2018
EP 1: Priced Out the Podcast
Welcome to the first episode of Priced Out: The Podcast about Gentrification. Hosted by Andru Morgan and documentary filmmaker Cornelius Swart the director of Priced Out: Gentrification in Portland, Oregon. In today's Podcast, we will discuss gentrification in Portland Oregon as well as the film and what to expect next from Priced Out.
October 2, 2018
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