Artists Refusing Fascism by Refuse Fascism

“We Are Responsible for Each Other” — Building Solidarity to Defeat Fascism Together

We share clips from speeches at protests Refuse Fascism organized around the country this past week demanding Trump Must Go NOW! Then, Sam talks with Carlos Álvarez Aranyos, founder of AmericanOpposition.org, a non-profit, non-connected political action committee created to counter the rise of fascism in the United States of America.

For more footage from May 15 and May 17 protests see @RefuseFascism on social media (@RefuseFashizm on TikTok) and our YouTube channel: @Refuse_Fascism.

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Intent and Atrocity: Dr. Raz Segal on Gaza, Genocide and the Machinery of Fascism

Sam provides updates on the Trump regime discussing ending the foundational right to Habeas Corpus, plus the ominous arrest of Newark, NJ Mayor Ras Baraka, and the expanding and intensifying cruelty of Trump’s ICE agents.

Then, she talks with Dr. Raz Segal, Program Director, Master of Arts in Holocaust and Genocide Studies & Associate Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Stockton University about the links between the escalating genocide in Gaza and fascism in the US.

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Thursday May 15: PROTEST at the US SUPREME COURT

Washington DC 9:00 AM

HANDS OFF BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP! In the Name of Humanity, We Refuse to Accept a Fascist America

TRUMP MUST GO NOW!

Saturday May 17: National Day of Protest to Demand The Fascist Trump Regime Must Go Now!

In big cities and small towns across this country, this should be a day of nonviolent protests, rallies and marches.

Get involved, join in protests near you, and add your name to the Call to Conscience... Call to Act at refusefascism.org

Required reading:

To my newborn son: I am absent not out of apathy, but conviction by Mahmoud Khalil

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The Danger Is Real. So Is Our Power to Stop It.

This week we’re sharing some excerpts of remarks from Andy Zee and Sam Goldman from the regional assemblies last week along with Coco Das speaking in Houston on May 1.

Salute to everyone across the country in the streets on May 1!

Thursday May 15: PROTEST at the US SUPREME COURT
Washington DC 9:00 AM
HANDS OFF BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP! In the Name of Humanity, We Refuse to Accept a Fascist America
TRUMP MUST GO NOW!

Saturday May 17: National Day of Protest to Demand The Fascist Trump Regime Must Go Now!
In big cities and small towns across this country, this should be a day of nonviolent protests, rallies and marches. Follow along and join in protests at refusefascism.org.

Tuesday May 6: Zoom at 8pm ET / 5pm PT Register for the Zoom webinar on to share more on the plans for these two protests and how they relate to the mission.

Must read: I Was Detained for My Beliefs. Who Will Be Next? by Columbia University student Mohsen Mahdawi in the NYT

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Academics Speak out Against Fascism

Visit RefuseFascism.org for additional resources and links relevant to this episode. It was great to see many listeners of the pod in the streets last week, including in Washington DC where the demand Trump Must Go NOW was brought to the gates of the White House.

The fascist Trump regime has universities in their sights and are moving against students and the institutions themselves. Sam talks with Emily Van Duyne, one of the authors of the open letter issued by academics at Stockton University on April 2, "Silence is Collaboration: Academics Must Speak Out Against Fascism" which reads in part, "there is no appeasing an openly fascist Trump administration, for we know that no one is safe under fascism. When we keep our heads down and stay the course, the fascists continue to lie, extort like the mobsters they are, and humiliate and attack whoever they add to their list of enemies."

Then, Sam talks with Heather Squire, who recently announced she's leaving her doctoral program at the University of Buffalo, issuing an open letter challenging the complicity of her institution in this time of crisis.

Join us in the streets around the country on May 1 raising the single unifying demand: Trump Must Go NOW!

Then, save the date: May 17, join protests around the country demanding Trump Must Go NOW (not eventually, not after the midterms, but NOW).

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We’re In It Now: Trump Defies the Courts, Targets Us All

Shout out to everyone in the streets yesterday saying Trump Must Go NOW! After a short recap from Sam of the terrifying events of the past week (Trump is directly flaunting the Supreme Court ruling that Kilmar Abrego Garcia must be brought home, and threatening to send “homegrown” people to the torture prison / death camp in El Salvador that he’s been disappeared to), we share an interview with Rachel Cohen. Rachel was a lawyer with “Big Law” firm Skadden who publicly resigned over her firm’s collaboration with the regime. Find links to her open letter and ways to follow her on refusefascism.org.

Next weekend: Refuse Fascism Emergency Assemblies Sunday April 27 in NYC, Chicago and LA

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Artists Refusing Fascism

This week Sam discusses: deporting students for their ideas, Trump locking away hundreds in a torture prison in El Salvador, SCOTUS rubber-stamping use of Alien Enemies Act to deport Venezuelans, installing concentration camps along the U.S/Mexico border; you know, fascism.

Then she interviews artists who are using their talents in the fight against fascism. First you'll hear from political cartoonist Dwayne Booth, aka Mr. Fish, and then print and billboard artist Karen Fiorito. To connect and see work from Mr. Fish, visit clowncrack.com or @mrfishcartoons on Instagram. To connect and see Karen Fiorito's work, follow her at karenfiorito.me or @karenfiorito on Instagram. Find links to specific works discussed on refusefascism.org.

Save the Date: Refuse Fascism Emergency Assemblies Sunday April 27 in NYC, Chicago and LA

Add your name to the Call to Conscience / Call to Act: RefuseFascism.org/act

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All Out For April 5: Silence = Collaboration

Listen to reports and excerpts from the protests demanding the release of Mahmoud Khalil and against the the broader fascist repression of the student movement to free Palestine. Sam and Mark discuss the moment we're in and the critical need to mobilize intensely for the upcoming protest on April 5 in DC (with additional gatherings in cities around the country).

Then, Sam talks with David Smith, the Guardian's Washington DC bureau chief. Read The Trump administration is descending into authoritarianism: From media to culture and the arts to the refusal to abide by court orders, we’re nearing ‘Defcon 1 for our democracy’, experts say and his latest: ‘It reminds you of a fascist state’: Smithsonian Institution braces for Trump rewrite of US history and follow his work at theguardian.com.

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Join the Refuse Fascism Contingent in D.C. on Saturday April 5 at the HANDS OFF Protest

Read, Sign, Spread A Call to Conscience...A Call to Act

Visit RefuseFascism.org for all links mentioned in this episode.

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How Young Men are Recruited into Fascism - And How to Stop It With Craig Johnson

Sam discusses how the Trump regime is taking the attacks on the rule of a law to a whole new level and the alarming leaps towards fascist consolidation from this past week, emphasizing the urgent need for mass resistance to defeat Trump/MAGA fascism. Then she interviews Craig Johnson, author of How to Talk to Your Son About Fascism and host of the 15 Minutes of Fascism Podcast. Follow Craig @cajohnson-craig.bsky.social.

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Thursday March 27 Protests Demanding FREE Mahmoud Khalil NOW! (LA, NYC, DC and more)

Read, sign, spread: A Call to Conscience...A Call to Action

Join Comedian Cliff Cash at the Mass Media March Sunday March 30 (multiple cities)

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Save the date: join Refuse Fascism contingent at HANDS OFF! Protest Saturday April 5th in Washington D.C.

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Mahmoud Khalil Must Be Freed - Trump Must Go

Sam and Coco talk about the ominous significance of the kidnapping, ICE detention and plans for deportation of Columbia graduate and activist Mahmoud Khalil (not to mention, green card holder married to a US citizen) and the need to quickly and dramatically step up resistance to the whole Trump MAGA fascist program.

"NOW IS THE TIME WHEN WE MUST RISE UP AND ACT TO STOP THE CONSOLIDATION OF TRUMP MAGA FASCISM. For the lives of people here and around the world we must refuse unlawful and inhumane orders… we must fill the streets and town squares in rising numbers — not stopping until we become millions — not relenting until this regime is no longer able to implement its program."

- from A Call to Conscience... A Call to Act from Refuse Fascism

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Decorum Vs. Determined Resistance with A.R. Moxon

Sam recaps this past week including Trump's fascist address to Congress, the regime's progress towards their goals and the protests demanding Trump, Musk and the fascist regime's removal around the country.

Then, she talks to author and essayist A.R. Moxon (author of Very Fine People and The Revisionaries). Follow his work at www.armoxon.com and subscribe to his newsletter at the-reframe.com.

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Stop the War on Women and LGBTQ People

Mark recaps the latest from the fascist shitstorm... then we share highlights from the live forum this week featuring Sunsara Taylor, Debra Sweet and your questions leading into this week of protests. Watch Sunsara Taylor on The RNL - Revolution Nothing Less - Show every week on Youtube.

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Purges in the Military and Growing Resistance in the Streets

In this episode Sam shares clips from voices of conscience who've spoken up this past week before joining Mark to dissect and analyze the state of the fascist ascent one month in. Topics include CPAC, growing protests, and major moves of the regime this week: their military purge, the terror they're unleashing against immigrants, their expanding cuts of federal workers and extreme threats against judges, politicians, professors, and even whole cities. Sam urges listeners to come to DC on Tuesday March 4 to protest when Trump speaks to Congress & to volunteer to help make the protest as powerful as possible.

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Unprecedented: Sasha Abramsky & Thomas Zimmer on the Crisis We Face

Sam shares an excerpt from Refuse Fascism's Virtual Forum "Only The People Can Defeat Fascism" featuring commentary from Paul Street and Sunsara Taylor. You can view the entire forum here. She then interviews Sasha Abramsky, author of Chaos Comes Calling and Western Correspondent for The Nation. In this conversation, Sasha discusses the rapid ascent of fascism, emphasizing the dehumanization of vulnerable populations, the role of propaganda, and the transformation of government under the Trump Regime. He highlights the immediate consequences of slashing social programs, the global implications of U.S. policies, and the impact of paramilitary forces on the rule of law. Follow Sasha on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/sashaabramsky.bsky.social.

Then Sam interviews historian Thomas Zimmer, co-host of the "Is this Democracy" podcast, to discuss the qualitative transformation of the US government over the course of the last month, through constitutional crisis to the brink of categorically ending constitutional order. The conversation examines the deadly synergy between varied factions and key figures within the fascist movement, highlighting Russel Vought and Elon Musk. Read more from him by subscribing to his substack: http://thomaszimmer.substack.com/. Follow Thomas on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomaszimmer.bsky.social.

Monday, FEBRUARY 17 “Presidents Day…” Take To the Streets (click to find locations)

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Watering The Seeds of Resistance

Sam shares the call from Refuse Fascism to take the streets on Presidents Day (Monday, February 17) and shares some of the developments that marked week 3 of Trump 2.0.

She interviews Daniel Hunter, author ofWhat If Trump Wins? and founder of Choose Democracy. They discuss resistance to stop Trump and how we overcome fear and uncertainty. Find out more about minuteof.us here. Then she shares highlights from conversations with Kay, Kim, and Misty, organizers withNo Voice Unheard who played a pivotal role in the nationwide 50501 protests that mobilized thousands in protest of Trump and Project 20205.

Find/host a protest on Monday Feb 17 ("President's Day") here:

https://refusefascism.org/2025/02/08/monday-february-17-presidents-day-take-to-the-streets/

Only the People Can Defeat Trump/MAGA Fascism

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Tuesday, Feb 11 at 8PM ET

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The First Two Weeks: Fascism is a Package Deal

Sam recaps and analyzes the onslaught of fascist orders and actions as of this morning, February 2, 2025. Then we share snippets from the Patron-only call earlier this week discussing the fascists' agenda and progress towards implementing it including their primary targets (trans people and immigrants) plus their plans for radically changing the US constitution (which isn't already repressive enough for them); plus ways that people can act in concert and individually to resist fascism meaningfully right now.

Find protests in every state happening February 5 here.

Learn more about the "50501" protest movement here.

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Episode 218: How Billionaires Created a Culture War and Sold School Vouchers

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Week One of Trump Regime 2.0 with Chrissy Stroop

One week in, Sam talks with Chrissy Stroop, Senior Correspondent for Religion Dispatches, and co-founder of The Fly Trap. Subscribe to Chrissy's Substack: https://www.bugbeardispatch.com/.

Wednesday, Jan. 29 at 8PM ET / 5PM PT, join us for a Patron-only Zoom discussion with historian Paul Street & host of the pod Sam Goldman, to discuss Trump's first 10 days and ways we can refuse fascism together. See link to register at our Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/refusefascism.

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Sheriffs As Trump’s Shock Troops w/ Jessica Pishko

Sam comments on the eve of Trump's inauguration and shares highlights from our virtual forum "Offense and Defense: How to Defeat Trump/MAGA Fascism & Defend Those Under Attack." Catch the full program here.

Then, Sam interviews Jessica Pishko, journalist, lawyer, and author of The Highest Law in the Land: How the Unchecked Power of Sheriffs Threatens Democracy. You can follow Jessica on X/Bluesky @JessPish and subscribe to her Substack.

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The Most Dangerous Anti-Immigrant Bill Yet + An Announcement

Sam recaps the far-reaching and ominous effects of the "Laken Riley" (anti-immigrant) Act on the eve of Trump's return to power.

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Offense and Defense: How To Defeat Trump/MAGA Fascism & Defend Those Under Attack

On January 20, Trump will re-take the reins of power. We have to confront Trump/MAGA fascism 2.0—now backed by all three branches of government, a united and far-reaching fascist movement, with the Republican Party purged of any dissent, and a cabinet ready to go full of woman-haters, immigrant-bashers, war criminals, white supremacists, science deniers, climate destroyers, racists and shameless liars with no respect for the rule of law. With Trump’s inauguration posing an existential threat to humanity and the planet itself, this forum aims to bring people together to inspire and bolster collective action. Join us to hear prescient insights from people who have been leading serious efforts to expose and oppose Trump/MAGA fascism, illuminating the threats we face and the paths forward to resist them effectively. Featuring: Coco Das, Member of the Refuse Fascism Editorial Board Faisal Al-Jubari, Chief External Affairs Officer for RAICES (Refugee and Immigrant Center for Education and Legal Services) Sunsara Taylor, co-host of The RNL-Revolution Nothing Less-Show Hosted by: Sam Goldman, Host of the Refuse Fascism Podcast Could the MAGA nightmare really all come to pass? Is the best thing we can do be begging Democratic Party leaders or waiting for elections? What would serious opposition look like and where and how do we get it started now? Will finding common ground with fascists rein them in or keep us safe? Can we actually wrench out a different future? IN THE NAME OF HUMANITY, WE REFUSE TO ACCEPT A FASCIST AMERICA!

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Resistance on Hold: The Crisis of Inaction in Perilous Times

Sam comments on the fourth anniversary of the January 6th coup attempt. Then, she chats with co-producer of the pod, Mark Tinkleman, exploring questions we've received. In this conversation, Sam and Mark discuss the current political landscape in the U.S., focusing on the lack of visible resistance against the rising fascism represented by Trump/Republi-fascist return to power. They draw parallels with South Korea's history of mass mobilization against oppressive regimes, emphasizing the need for sustained and organized resistance. They highlight the urgency of action in the face of a rapidly deteriorating political situation and the necessity of mass action to disrupt the status quo. The discussion also addresses the phenomenon of people tuning out from political issues, the urgency of challenging the non-fascist majority, and the dangers of basing movements solely on popular opinion.

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2024: Year in Review

We find our power together, not by finding a way to get by or accommodate to the new horrific normal, but together paving a path for mass nonviolent noncooperation, mass nonviolent disobedience. Prepare for the fight ahead in 2025 with some guests from this past year including:

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How Trump’s Leveraging “Unitary Executive” Theory to Harness Supreme Power

Sam discusses "The Great Capitulation" and the need for us to come together now to defeat Trump/MAGA fascism through collective action.

Then she interviews veteran legal scholar, activist and political analyst, Marjorie Cohn, to discuss the implications of the "unitary executive" theory with Trump returning to power next month. They explore how this theory has evolved over time, its impact on the system of checks and balances, and the alarming agenda outlined in Project 2025, which aims to consolidate executive power. Cohn warns of the threats to civil liberties and democratic norms, emphasizing the need for organized resistance against fascism.

Read Marjorie's regular Truthout column Human Rights and Wrongs and learn more and connect at marjoriecohn.com.

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The Great Capitulation by Michelle Goldberg
Trump Is Using “Unitary Executive” Theory in His Bid to Amass Supreme Power by Marjorie Cohn

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Gender Liberation, Radical Defiance & The Power of Street Art

Sam recaps some of the fascist developments from this past week and interviews author and activist, Raquel Willis, co-founder of The Gender Liberation Movement (@genderlib). Raquel discusses the current anti-trans landscape, focusing on the implications of the U.S. v. Skrmetti case and the broader cultural backlash against trans rights. Willis highlights the need for radical defiance and collective action to combat the ongoing threats to trans rights and healthcare access. You can follow Raquel on IG @raquel_willis.

Then Sam speaks with Philadelphia-based street artist YOMI to discuss art, fascism, and resistance. Follow Yomi's work @yomitgmb.

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Resist Trump? On Immigration, Top Democrats See Room for Compromise. (NY Times)
Texas is Coming for New York Abortion Providers by Jessica Valenti
They're Killing Us by Jessica Valenti
Trump Picks Chloe Cole's Anti-Trans Lawyer Harmeet Dhillon To Lead DOJ Civil Rights Post by Erin Reed
Dec 18 in Philadelphia: March to Defend Immigrant Lives, Dec 18 in Philadelphia
Other actions on Dec 18 International Migrants Day

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Refusing Trump’s Orders: Military Resistance to Mass Deportation

Central to Trump's fascist agenda is his pledge to carry out the largest mass deportation effort in the nation's history. Trump has affirmed that efforts will involve a national emergency declaration and the military. To discuss this topic Sam interviews Brittany Ramos DeBarros, an army veteran and Organizer Director of About Face: Veterans Against the War (on Instagram @vetsaboutface).

Recommended reading: Trump’s Mass Deportation Plan Can’t Happen If US Military Members Resist It by Rory Fanning

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The Supreme Court’s Hearing on Trans Rights Was Bigotry Masquerading as Law by Elie Mystal
Trans Rights Activists Hold Sit-In at Capitol to Protest Johnson’s Bathroom Ban by Chris Walker
Idaho Will Enforce Abortion Travel Ban by Jessica Valenti
Meet Kash Patel, Donald Trump’s New Roy Cohn (Amicus podcast)

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"Day One" Dictator & Trump's Monstrous Mass Deportation Plans

Sam gives an update on Trump's new appointments to his Revengers cabinet and their implications, shouts out Evan Greer's disruption of anti-trans bigot Rep. Nancy Mace, and underscores the qualitative changes in governance that fascism represents and calls for collective action against MAGA fascism NOW not waiting until atrocities are underway. Sam also discusses Trump's plans for mass deportations of at least 11 million people, drawing parallels to historical atrocities and emphasizing the urgent need for mass defense, disruption and disobedience to support our immigrant siblings and stop the fascists from implementing their nightmare program.

This week we re-run two interviews featuring contributors to the June issue of The New Republic titled "What American Fascism Would Look Like." Emmanuel Guerisoli discusses his essay The "Day One" Dictatorship (co-authored by Federico Finchelstein). Emmanuel is a postdoctoral fellow at the Zolberg Institute on Migration and Mobility at the New School. He can be followed at @emmaGuerisoli. Then, Francisco Goldman discusses his essay From Texas to Massachusetts: On the border in a fascist America. Francisco is a novelist and journalist. His most recent novel is Monkey Boy, a Pulitzer Prize finalist. He can be followed on ex-Twitter at @PacoGoldman or on Instagram @franciscogoldman.

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“Put Them in Trauma”: Inside a Key MAGA Leader’s Plans for a New Trump Agenda by Molly Redden and Andy Kroll, ProPublica, and Nick Surgey, Documented
Ep 213: Fascist Riots in the UK, Fascist Plots in the US
Border Militias Prepare to Assist With Donald Trump’s Mass Deportation Plans by Tess Owen
American Families United Act by Andrew Moriarity
Trump 2.0 Poses an Even Bigger Threat to Migrants. Here’s How We Fight Back. by Silky Shah
Trump’s border czar pick supports using Texas ranch for mass deportations by Alejandro Serrano
How millions of US children would be hurt by Trump’s mass deportation plan: ‘Deep harm is intentional’ by Robin Buller
Trump’s Cabinet: Forging a Fascist Machine (revcom.us)

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Trump’s Opening Salvo, Dems Roll Out The Welcome Mat + Christians Against Christian Nationalism

Sam discusses what to make of Biden's warm welcome of Trump back to the White House and pledge to "accommodate him," legislation that gives you a preview of how Trump & Co see their strategy kicking off, Trump's cabinet of horrors, and more recent developments.

Then, Amanda Tyler (@AmandaTylerBJC) is the executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty. Amanda is the lead organizer of Christians Against Christian Nationalism and she is the author of How to End Christian Nationalism.

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Why Democrats are aiding and facilitating fascism, what this shows about this system, and what decent people need to be doing by Bob Avakian
House GOP Moves to Ram Through Bill That Gives Trump Unilateral Power to Kill Nonprofits by Noah Hurowitz
What are recess appointments and how could Trump use them to fill his Cabinet? by Stephen Groves
Meet Pete Hegseth, the Man Who Will Lead the Entire US Military — A Man Deemed an ‘Extremist’ by the US Military by Jeff Sharlet
How to Hear a Fascist by Rick Perlstein
What White Christians Have Wrought by Robert P. Jones

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No Election Can Legitimize Fascism! We REFUSE to Accept a MAGA Fascist USA

Post-election 2024, we're not telling you how to feel, we're just glad you're feeling something. Hang onto your humanity with us and pledge to refuse to accept a fascist America urgently and visibly in the coming weeks.

Paul Street and Andy Zee joined Refuse Fascism host Sam Goldman for an online forum informed by listener questions on November 8, 2024 sponsored by Refuse Fascism in association with ⁠The RNL - Revolution Nothing Less - Show⁠⁠. We're sharing excerpts from the forum which ⁠can be watched in its entirety ⁠on YouTube⁠⁠. Follow Paul Street at ⁠⁠paulstreet.substack.com⁠⁠.

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What you Need to Know Before the Election For Whatever Comes Next

With the election in just two days, Sam recaps essential points on refusing fascism in the event of various scenarios that may arise over the next few days and weeks. While there is much that we do not know about what will happen on Tuesday and after, we do know this: fascism is never legitimate. No election, fair or fraudulent, can legitimize a fascist regime. Join the online forum: Refuse Fascism Responds to the 2024 Election Friday, Nov 8 at 8PM ET. Sign-up to join us: ⁠https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_FvJFMP5qSZO1pDEWtLaCxA⁠

Then, Sam talks with Robert P. Jones, president and founder of Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI). His latest book is ⁠The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy.⁠ Check out Dr. Jones' writing at ⁠www.whitetoolong.net⁠ and listen to ⁠The Convocation Unscripted podcast on YouTube⁠ or follow on Substack: ⁠convocation.substack.com⁠

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The 2024 Election: The Future Hangs In The Balance

Paul Street and Andy Zee joined Refuse Fascism host Sam Goldman for an online forum informed by listener questions on October 25, 2024 sponsored by Refuse Fascism and ⁠The RNL - Revolution Nothing Less - Show⁠. We're sharing excerpts from the forum which ⁠can be watched in its entirety on YouTube⁠. Follow Paul Street at ⁠paulstreet.substack.com⁠.

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A Word From The Folks Calling Trump Fascist Since 2016

Friday, 10/25 at 6pm PT / 9pm ET join us for a livestreamed forum with Paul Street, Andy Zee and Sam Goldman, The 2024 Elections: The Future Hangs In the Balance, sponsored by Refuse Fascism and The RNL - Revolution Nothing Less - Show. Follow @RefuseFascism on social media to tune in and send your questions ahead of time to samanthagoldman@refusefascism.org.

This episode is in response to the (very belated) warnings coming from Democratic Party and military leaders that Trump is (in the words of Trump's former top general Mark Milley) "a fascist to the core."

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Featuring:

Jeff Sharlet - Episode 31 (11/29/20)

Jason Stanley - Episode 20 (10/4/20)

Michael Coard - Episode 12 (8/9/20)

Coco Das - Episode 54 (4/11/21)

Walden Bello - Episode 61 (5/30/21)

Thomas Zimmer - Episode 92 (1/2/22)

Annika Brockschmidt - Episode 103 (3/20/22)

Andy Zee - Episode 32 (12/10/20)

Federico Finchelstein - Episode 49 (3/7/21)

Jared Yates Sexton - Episode 6 (6/28/20)

Henry Giroux - Episode 42 (1/24/21)

Anthony DiMaggio - Episode 108 (4/24/22)

Wajahat Ali - Episode 140 (12/31/22)

Anthea Butler - Episode 91 (12/26/21)

Bradley Onishi - Episode 140 (12/31/22)

Dahlia Lithwick - Episode 91 (12/26/21)

Ruth Ben Ghiat - Episode 3 (6/7/20)

Umair Haque - Episode 48 (2/28/21)

Jeff Sharlet - Episode 150 (3/26/23)

Jared Yates Sexton - Episode 91 (12/26/21)

Brynn Tannehill - Episode 57 (5/2/21)

Thomas Zimmer - Episode 92 (1/2/22)

Wendy Via - Episode 179 (11/19/23)

Preparing for a Coup: What’s Changed, What Hasn’t

One month to go before the election, what's happening? Elon + X going all out to get Trump back in power, mass deportation plans, nakedly Nazi justifications for those horrific plans, voter rolls being purged, multiple climate-change fueled storms pummeling the southeast with storms of disinformation and death threats against meteorologists following, and more. The new apostolic march on Washington this past week called this election "America's last stand" - Sam discusses all this, then talks with Nick Quested, the filmmaker who embedded himself with the Proud Boys for the new documentary 64 Days (64daysfilm.com), which covers the period from the November 2020 election to the January 6, 2021 insurrection.

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Mike Hixenbaugh: Christians flock to Washington to pray for America to turn to God — by electing Trump

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Lessons of Kristallnacht, “Civil War,” and Mass Deportation

As we enter the final month before the November 2024 presidential election, Sam recaps recent developments including Jack Smith's recent court filing detailing the 2020 Trump coup attempt, the fascist disinformation campaign that is actively harming people in need of help and accurate information in the wake of Hurricane Helene while somehow blaming Democrats and more than anything, immigrants, for this climate-fueled destruction, and of course the "eyeliner on a pig" fascism on display during the Walz/Vance debate.

These recent developments set the stage for another heavy conversation about the parallels between Trump's rhetoric and the broader fascist movements plans for mass deportation and "one really violent hour" to Kristallnacht, the Nazi-led pogrom that marked a key turning point in the Holocaust. To discuss this she speaks with Zoltán Grossman, author of Lessons of Kristallnacht, “Civil War,” and Mass Deportation. Dr. Grossman is Professor of Geography and Native American and Indigenous Studies, The Evergreen State College, Olympia, Washington. Read more of his work at sites.evergreen.edu/zoltan.

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Late Fascism with Alberto Toscano

Sam discusses the cruel and nakedly fascist “mass deportation” plank of both Project 2025 and the official GOP platform. Then, she talks with Dr. Alberto Toscano, author of Late Fascism: Race, Capitalism and the Politics of Crisis. Robin D. G. Kelley writes: "Late Fascism is brilliant, incisive, and right on time. We are living through a moment when the "F" word is no longer taboo and the threat of fascism lurks everywhere. And yet, so mired in debates over definitions, typologies, and analogies that our understanding of fascism remains elusive. Alberto Toscano avoids this trap by turning to anti-fascist thinkers, whose groundings in anticolonial, antiracist, and anticapitalist struggles remind us that liberalism is no enemy of fascism, and fascists flower in the hot house of capitalism."

Follow Dr. Toscano's work at sfu.ca and read his articles at inthesetimes.com.

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How Billionaires Created a Culture War and Sold School Vouchers

Sam recaps recent developments including the escalating impact on the community of Springfield, Ohio from JD Vance’s Hitlerian lies about immigrants there, the Republican Party that is made up of “Black Nazis” like Mark Robinson, the fascist organizing at the level of the Georgia state election board to find ways to throw the election to Trump in November, plus the heartbreaking stories that are starting to come out as maternal mortality review committees uncover cases of women who did not need to die but were denied life-saving abortion care because of bans in their states post-Dobbs.

Then, she talks with Josh Cowen, author of The Privateers: How Billionaires Created a Culture War and Sold School Vouchers, about the anti-public school movement which is a key plank of Project 2025 and Agenda 47; who is behind this movement and what their true aims and the actual outcomes are.

Follow Josh’s work at @joshcowenMSU and josh-cowen.com and order the book here.

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Chaos Comes Calling with Sasha Abramsky

Sam recaps recent events including the lynch mob atmosphere being whipped up against immigrants in general and Black Haitian immigrants in particular after white supremacists in Ohio started vicious lies against Haitians. These lies have been further amplified by J.D. Vance and Donald Trump including from the national debate stage with Kamala Harris this past week.

Unfortunately these recent events couldn’t be more timely alongside this week’s discussion with Sasha Abramsky, author of the new book Chaos Comes Calling: The Battle Against the Far-Right Takeover of Small-Town America. From Eric Klinenberg :“In this chilling report from the American West, Abramsky shows how the extreme right has mobilized to upend local democratic institutions and warns of a fascist threat that’s alarmingly close and widespread. A disturbing, necessary book.”

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Dispatch on American Political Dystopia

Sam recaps recent events and then talks with Paul Street about the GOP's unfolding plans to suppress the vote, intimidate their opposition (including by raiding extremely mainstream activists in Texas with LULAC [The League of Latin American Citizens] and sending police to the homes of people signing pro-abortion rights petitions in Florida), and unleash violence at multiple levels should Trump be declared the loser in November. In response to all this the Democrats are celebrating... the addition of Dick Cheney to their "big tent."

Paul writes, "The nation is careening to some kind of constitutional crisis and potential major civil conflict after the next election. Anarchic US capitalism-imperialism has hatched a two-party system whose right-/Reich-most wing no longer accepts defeat through mere elections, no matter how tilted to the right the nation’s electoral rules are... [and yet] There is liberating opportunity as well as eliminationist and authoritarian menace in the current perilous moment."

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Who’s Afraid Of (Talking About) The Christian Right?

Sam talks with returning guest Annika Brockschmidt about the ideology that binds Trump's GOP. Brockschmidt is a trained historian, author and journalist. She wrote two bestselling books on the history of the US religious right and the Republican Party. Follow Annika on BlueSky. German-speaking audiences can read her latest book Die Brandstifter: Wie Extremisten die Republikanische Partei übernahmen and listen to her on the two podcasts she hosts Kreuz und Flagge and Feminist Shelf Control.

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The Young Person's Illustrated Guide to American Fascism + DNC Vibes

Sam discusses the joy fest during the DNC and the growing gulf between those who think you can stop fascism in the US while still enabling a genocide in Gaza, and those who think that is completely incompatible. Cheers to all the protesters at the DNC for telling the truth this past week. Follow @uncommittedmvmt on TikTok for the voices clipped in today's episode.

Then, she talks with Stephen Eisenman, Professor Emeritus of Art History at Northwestern University. He has a forthcoming book out with artist collaborator Sue Coe titled The Young Person’s Illustrated Guide to American Fascism (⁠available in October; preorder now⁠). Eisenman is also the author of numerous articles and nine books including The Abu Ghraib Effect and The Ecology of Impressionism. Eisenman is also a curator, critic, activist and co-founder of the environmental non-profit, Anthropocene Alliance. He is a regular contributor to the online publication CounterPunch. View Sue Coe's artwork at suecoe.com and follow her on Instagram at @suecoeart.

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Fascist Riots in the UK, Fascist Plots in the US

This week, Sam discusses recent developments including Project 2025 Phase 2, the efforts of Republi-Fascists to subvert elections and the Democratic National Convention's approach to combating fascism (is it weird or is it fascism?).

She then welcomes Sian Norris back on the show to discuss the fascist riots in the UK that targeted asylum seekers and Muslims following a lethal mass stabbing in Southport England. Sian Norris is a senior investigative reporter at openDemocracy (read her work here) and author of Bodies Under Siege: How the Far-Right Attack on Reproductive Rights Went Global. You can follow Sian on X @sianunshka.

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The GOP, Netanyahu & Jewish Safety

Biden's out of the race and many people are feeling more optimistic about Kamala Harris beating Trump in the election... Sam comments about the new situation, what dangers lie ahead and what we can rely on to stop fascism and build a better world.

Then, Sam talks with Graie Hagans, Chief Vision Officer with Bend the Arc: Jewish Action about the roots and origins of antisemitism, the current dangers and complex dynamics of the moment in the US and how Jewish communities and individuals can truly be kept safe in an era of rising antisemitism. Check out their guide on how to talk about antisemitism "like we believe we can end it together" at dismantlingantisemitism.org.

Extra relevant this week as the fascist president of Israel addressed a joint session of Congress this week, read the open letter to Biden:

Bend The Arc: Jewish Action Sounds The Alarm: Continued U.S. Support for the Siege of Gaza is a Threat to Millions Abroad and Democracy at Home

Cheers to Jewish Voice for Peace and everyone who mobilized to protest Netanyahu this week! Read:

“Not in Our Name”: 400 Jewish Activists Arrested Protesting Netanyahu Address

A guide to the Jewish and Israeli groups that protested Netanyahu’s DC visit

*Note, there will be no new episodes for a couple weeks, but we will be back! Tune in August 18.

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The Fascist Spectacle at the RNC + Resistance We Need

This week Sam shares commentary on the fascist spectacle that was the RNC along with other recent developments and how and why we must resolutely oppose fascism. Then, Sam talks with Karl Folk, a researcher of authoritarianism and radicalization and the founder of the Institute of Unreality. He writes for Splinter News on their authoritarianism and American politics team. Read his latest: The Nefarious Figures Behind the Far-Right Who Predate Trump. You can find him on X and Bluesky @brainnotonyet.

Mentioned in this episode:

Five things to know about J.D. Vance’s ties to tech billionaires by Bobby Allyn (NPR)

This Land Is Mein Land by John Ganz

Breaking News Re-Release: "Hillbilly Elegy" - If Books Could Kill podcast

Weekly Roundup: JD Vance, Peter Thiel, and Leonard Leo Episode of Straight White American Jesus Hosted by Bradley Onishi

Jeff Sharlet thread on X

JD Vance on Abortion by Jessica Valenti

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The War on Women & the Genocide in Gaza

This episode features interviews from the past two intense weeks... first Sam discusses recent events and updates from the intensifying situation in the US.

Then, we share two interviews: first with Aziza Ahmed to discuss the implications of two years without Roe and recent SCOTUS rulings on abortion rights. Aziza is a professor of law at Boston University where she also serves as the Co-Founder and Director of the BU Program on Reproductive Justice. Follow Aziza's work at bu.edu/law/profile/aziza-ahmed.

Then, Sam talks with returning guest and prolific commentator Wajahat Ali about Trump, the recent vile slate of SCOTUS decisions including the declaration that the president is a king, and the deteriorating situation in Gaza as the US-backed Israeli siege drags on with no end in sight. Follow Wajahat at thelefthook.substack.com and @wajahatali.

TOMORROW: The Coalition to March on the RNC is planning a major march and rally on the first day of the RNC in Milwaukee, WI on July 15, 2024. Rally at 11 AM CST in Red Arrow Park: marchonrnc2024.org

Abortion, Every Day by Jessica Valenti

Experts: Georgia GOP officials lay groundwork to "obstruct" and "subvert" election certification by Tatyana Tandanpolie

Trump v. United States episode of the 5-4 podcast

Special Coverage on NATCON 2024 by Annika Brockschmidt and Ben Lorber for Religion Dispatches

Inside Ziklag, the Secret Organization of Wealthy Christians Trying to Sway the Election and Change the Country by Andy Kroll, for ProPublica, and Nick Surgey, for Documented

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The Fascist Führer Decision + Schedule F

Sam discusses the pivotal decision from the fascist-dominated Supreme Court to grant Trump permission to commit crimes through the immunity ruling this past year with historian Paul Street, along with the slew of other terrible rulings. Of course while this ruling would seem to green-light the current president to act as a king unbound by any rule over his “official acts,” the Biden administration and Congressional Democrats did not announce any action in response to this chilling marker on the slide towards fascism. Read and listen to more from Paul Street at https://paulstreet.substack.com/

Then, she talks with HuffPost reporter Matt Shuham about his latest article, “Schedule F: The 'Chilling' Trump Plan That Could Pave The Way For Authoritarianism.” Schedule F is the mechanism referenced in Project 2025 that will allow the widescale replacement of civll servants with Trump loyalists throughout government. Follow Matt on Twitter/Threads/BlueSky/Mastodon at @mattshuham and read more of his work at https://www.huffpost.com/author/matt-shuham and https://gatheringstring.substack.com/

*This episode was recorded and uploaded prior to the second round of French elections.

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The Supreme Court Puts Trump Above the Law by Adam Serwer

The Supreme Court Is Fully MAGA-Pilled. The Time for Action Is Now or Never. by Dahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern

American Midnight: The Great War, a Violent Peace, and Democracy's Forgotten Crisis

Illiberal America: A History by Steven Hahn

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The “Debate,” SCOTUS & the Constitutional Bind

Sam Goldman recaps the events of this past week including the totally illegitimate "debate" debacle between Trump and Biden, plus the slew of despotic rulings from the Trump's unelected "Supreme" Court.

Then, Sam interviews legal scholar and author Aziz Rana to take a deeper look at U.S. Constitution and its veneration to understand how it has supported the rise and preservation of Trump. He currently serves as Provost’s Distinguished Fellow and J. Donald Monan, S.J., University Professor of Law and Government at Boston College Law School. His latest book, The Constitutional Bind: How Americans Came to Idolize a Document that Fails Them, explores the modern emergence of constitutional veneration in the twentieth century. You can connect with Aziz and find more of his work at azizrana.com.

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March on the RNC in Milwaukee, WI July 15

The Constitution Won’t Save Us From Trump by Aziz Rana

The Supreme Court Chooses to Throw January 6 Rioters a Bone by Madiba K. Dennie

The Supreme Court just lit a match and tossed it into dozens of federal agencies by Ian Millhiser

Why the Leaked SCOTUS Ruling Isn't a Victory by Jessica Valenti

The Originalism Trap With Madiba K. Dennie

The Freedom to Dominate with Jefferson Cowie

The Draft Proposal Constitution For The New Socialist Republic In North America

We Are Witnessing the Biggest Judicial Power Grab Since 1803 by Elie Mystal

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The Originalism Trap With Madiba K. Dennie

This week Sam shares commentary on the second anniversary of the overturn of Roe & the stripping away of the federal protection of abortion rights. Then she welcomes Madiba K. Dennie back on the show to discuss originalism as the underlying theory behind some of the worst recent Supreme Court decisions. Madiba is the Deputy Editor and Senior Contributor at Balls & Strikes and author of The Originalism Trap: How Extremists Stole the Constitution and How We The People Can Take It Back. You can follow Madiba on X-Twitter @AudreLawdAMercy (and audrelawdamercy on Bluesky).

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Mentioned In This Episode:

Refuse Fascism episode 197 with Merle Hoffman: Choices: A Post-Roe Abortion Rights Manifesto

Refuse Fascism episode 205: Bad Faith: Christian Nationalism’s Unholy War on Democracy

Anatomy of a Christian Nationalist Strategy: Ten Commandments in Louisiana by Sarah Posner

Supreme Court Rules Against Married Couple in Blow to Immigrant Families by Mike Ludwig, Truthout
The US supreme court’s rightwing justices are fighting legal monsters of their making by Moira Donegan, The Guardian

Related Interviews:

The Court Is Wrong; Color-Blindness Serving White Supremacy

Andrew Seidel: American Crusades & the Supreme Court

The Freedom to Dominate with Jefferson Cowie

Constructing MAGA Lore: Trump's Convictions, January 6 and American Political Violence

This week Mark Tinkleman guest hosts the pod, covering SCOTUS decisions on the abortion medication mifepristone as well as gun control, Trump’s support from powerful people, the Southern Baptist Convention's attack on IVF, and a listener’s feedback.

Then Sam welcomes researcher Teddy Wilson back on to discuss how the MAGA movement is weaving Trump's conviction and Jan. 6 into a lore of violence and victimization. They discuss the historical similarities between the events surrounding Jan. 6th and other episodes of political violence in American history and understanding the roots of the US fascist movement.

Follow Teddy's Substack, Radical Reports and listen to his new podcast “Insurrectionist Cookbook."

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Mentioned In This Episode:

There’s a Time Bomb Hidden In the Supreme Court’s Abortion Pills Decision by Madiba Dennie on Balls and Strikes
The Right’s Politics of Revenge by Thomas Zimmer

Related Interviews:

Teddy Wilson on the Metastasizing Fascist Base

Teddy Wilson: Fascist Violence Accelerated

The Convicted Felon & “Day One” Dictator

Ian Millhiser on Trump’s Trials + Paul Street on Jan 6 Anniversary

Bad Faith: Christian Nationalism’s Unholy War on Democracy

Sam interviews filmmaker Stephen Ujlaki about his latest film Bad Faith: Christian Nationalism's Unholy War on Democracy. This feature-length documentary is available for streaming on Apple TV+, Amazon Prime, Google Play & YouTube. See trailer here. For information about the film, including a listing of screenings & how to organize a screening in your community visit badfaithdocumentary.com.

From the Variety review of the film:

"The Christian Nationalist movement was the driving force behind the January 6 insurrection, and what we saw there was a preview of their ideals and methods: a frothing hostility toward the U.S. government, coupled with the willingness to use violence. Russell Moore, the editor of Christianity Today, talks about how the new wave of Christianity is “a church growth movement, but for angry people. A sense of theatrical anger feels, to some, like depth of conviction.” Yet even on Jan. 6, these “rebels,” participating in their own form of action-movie cosplay, were, like Trump himself, at least somewhat constrained. What “Bad Faith” captures is that Christian Nationalists now have the potential to be the shock troops in a second and far more threatening Trump presidency."

Plus, Sam discusses the increasingly dire situation for women across the country where abortion has been banned, the latest developments for immigrants, the perfidious US-Israeli war crime that just killed 200 Palestinian civilians, and more.

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Mentioned In the Episode:

Post-Dobbs, Abortion Bans Have Given Abusers a New Power by Kylie Cheung for Jezebel

Implausible Deniability Republicans know exactly what abortion bans are doing by Jessica Valenti

Refuse Fascism Podcast Ep 197 - Choices: A Post-Roe Abortion Rights Manifesto an interview with Merle Hoffman

Refuse Fascism Podcast Ep 193 - Rick Perlstein: The Infernal Triangle + Christian Nationalist Project 2025 (an interview with Jenny Cohn)

The Theocratic Blueprint for Trump’s Next Term by Chris Lehman for The Nation

Charismatic Revival Fury: The New Apostolic Reformation Podcast Series written by Matthew D. Taylor and produced by Bradley Onishi

Refuse Fascism Podcast Ep 98 Anne Nelson: Media, Money, & the Secret Hub of the Radical Right

Refuse Fascism Podcast Ep 93 Samuel Perry: Christian Nationalist Violence Post January 6

Related Episodes:

Combatting Disinformation

The Evangelical Prophets Anointing Trump

The Nightmare That Is House Speaker Mike Johnson

The Convicted Felon & “Day One” Dictator

Sam discusses the historic guilty verdict that was just rendered by a jury against Trump this past week (34 felonies for falsifying business records to cover up hush money payments to Stormy Daniels, all for the purposes of ensuring his illegitimate election in 2016), along with the slew of unhinged fascist threats and rants that have come in the aftermath of the verdict.

Then, as this guilty verdict has in no way stopped his campaign for power again, she talks with two contributors to the June issue of The New Republic titled What American Fascism Would Look Like. Emmanuel Guerisoli discusses his essay The “Day One” Dictatorship (co-authored by Federico Finchelstein). Emmanuel is postdoctoral fellow at the Zolberg Institute on Migration and Mobility at the New School. He can be followed at @emmaGuerisoli.

Then, Francisco Goldman discusses his essay From Texas to Massachusetts: On the border in a fascist America. Francisco is a novelist and journalist. His most recent novel is Monkey Boy, a Pulitzer Prize finalist. He can be followed on ex-Twitter at @PacoGoldman or on Instagram @franciscogoldman.

Mentioned in this episode:

Escalator Redux by Jeff Sharlet (Scenes From a Slow Civil War)

The United States Looks Like a Sick Joke, The Paul Street Report

Trump’s Online MAGA Army Calls Guilty Verdict a Declaration of War by Tess Owen for Wired

Right-Wingers Are Already Promising Vengeance After The Trump Verdict by Matt Shuham and Christopher Mathias for HuffPost

“Make Them Pay”—The Far Right Responds to Trump’s Conviction By Kiera Butler for Mother Jones

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Related Episodes:

This American Fascism: A Retrospective

The Wannabe Fascist

The Freedom to Dominate with Jefferson Cowie

The Nightmare Immigrants Face at the Texas Border

Perspectives on Stopping Fascism in the US in 2024

The Freedom to Dominate with Jefferson Cowie

Sam interviews historian Dr. Jefferson Cowie, author of Freedom’s Dominion: A Saga of White Resistance to Federal Power (winner of the 2023 Pulitzer Prize). Jeff serves as the James G. Stahlman Chair in the Department of History at Vanderbilt University. He was recently honored with a 2024 Guggenheim Fellowship - in part, in anticipation of his upcoming project, tentatively titled Crosswinds of a Common History. You can find more of Jeff's writing including information on his other three books here.

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Mentioned in the episode:

The ‘Unified Reich’ Scandal is a Feature Not a Bug of Trump's Brand of American Fascism by Annika Brockschmidt for Religion Dispatches

Refuse Fascism episode 181: The Evangelical Prophets Anointing Trump with Matthew D. Taylor

Straight White American Jesus Special Episode: Justice Alito Let's His Appeal to Heaven Flag Fly

The Supreme Court's new voting rights decision is a love letter to gerrymandering by Ian Millhiser for Vox

Refuse Fascism episode 197: Choices: A Post-Roe Abortion Rights Manifesto

Fascism in America? (Part 1 of a deep dive into the "fascism debate") by Thomas Zimmer

The Anti-Liberal Left Has a Fascism Problem (Part 2 of a deep dive into the "fascism debate") by Thomas Zimmer

Perspectives on Stopping Fascism in the US in 2024

This week Sam Goldman (@SamBGoldman) and Coco Das (@Coco_Das) have a wide ranging conversation with Dr. Clarence Lusane and Sunsara Taylor over what it will take to stop fascism in the United States. We discuss the 2024 elections in the context of the prospect of civil war, the genocide in Gaza and the uprising to stop it, the threat of today's wars spiraling out of control, the nature of the fascist threat, and the possibility of wrenching a better future out of this moment.

Dr. Clarence Lusane is a political science professor and interim political science department chair at Howard University, and independent expert to the European Commission Against Racism and Intolerance. HIs latest book is Twenty Dollars and Change: Harriet Tubman and the Ongoing Fight for Racial Justice and Democracy. Read more from Dr. Lusane here

Sunsara Taylor (@SunsaraTaylor) is the co-host of the RNL (Revolution Nothing Less) Show on YouTube. She helped initiate Refuse Fascism in the aftermath of the election of Trump. Sunsara led tens of thousands into the streets against the overturn of Roe v Wade w/ RiseUp4AbortionRights.

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Related Episodes:

The Cataclysm of a Second Trump Term

Sunsara Taylor: Forced Motherhood = Female Enslavement

This American Fascism: A Retrospective

The Wannabe Fascist

Sam discusses the events of this past week including Trump's trials (including what's getting prosecuted and what's being postponed indefinitely), the escalating genocide in Gaza as the Israeli military started to invade Rafah and the ongoing bravery of students across the country who continue to demand an end to this genocide.

Then, we share an interview with acclaimed historian and returning guest Dr. Federico Finchelstein to discuss his latest book The Wannabe Fascists: A Guide to Understanding the Greatest Threat to Democracy. Dr. Finchelstein serves as Professor of History at the New School for Social Research and Eugene Lang College in New York City. He is also the author of From Fascism to Populism in History (published 2017/2019) A Brief History of Fascist Lies, (published in 2020) and Fascist Mythologies The History and Politics of Unreason in Borges, Freud, and Schmitt (published in 2022). Follow him on Twitter at @FinchelsteinF.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

U of C student interviewed by FOX 32 from the frontlines about what the student movement is fighting for.

Related Episodes:

Fascist Lies with Federico Finchelstein

Federico Finchelstein: "White Replacement Theory" & Fascism

Refuse Fascism

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