The Safety and Risk Success Podcast

Today’s Guest:

Today, I’m sharing a webinar recording where I discuss the current state of safety and how it has changed since 2008.

Over 300 safety leaders answered our survey explaining their priorities, aspirations, worries, costs and blockers around health and safety.    

You’ll learn:

✅ What’s most important for health and safety professionals.

✅ What prevents health and safety professionals from reaching their goals.

✅ What health and safety professionals' biggest concerns are.

✅ The difference between slips and trips and the dangers of bundling slips, trips and falls together.

✅ How risk relevance has changed since 2008.

✅ How we need to change our approach to slips, trips and falls.

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Today’s Guest

Today, I’m sharing a recording from our safety roundtable discussion on how to make people care about health and safety.

We talk about why health and safety messaging needs to change depending on who it’s directed at, how we can make people engaged with safety, and the benefits of being proactive in our safety and risk management.

You’ll learn

• How to best communicate about safety.
• How to make other people care about safety.
• A framework that can be used in your health and safety messaging.
• The problems with using statistics when talking to others about safety.
• The benefits of being proactive in safety and risk management.
• How to talk to board members in a way that resonates with them.
• Examples of how to make people engaged with health and safety.

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Today’s Guest:

Simon Jones is the Head of Health Safety and Environment for NRS Health Care and is also the Author of "The Safety Salesman - Shoot From The Lip".

Simon has been recognised by Health and Safety at Work Magazine as a "40 Under 40 Outstanding Professional" in 2018 and short-listed by SHP Magazine as a "Trail Blazer" in 2021.

Simon joins us to discuss his newly released book, which covers the importance of selling safety and how safety professionals can do this successfully.

We talk about the challenges people often face when trying to communicate safety issues to non-safety professionals and the value of human connection.

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Satish Lakhiani is a noise & vibration consultant with Essel Acoustics, where he helps businesses to protect staff from HAVS & hearing damage, to avoid civil claims, prosecution, and to comply with regulatory requirements.

Satish joins us to discuss the extent of the Hand-arm Vibration Syndrome problem, some of the symptoms of HAVS, and steps companies can take to minimise the risk of HAVS.

We talk about the importance of preventative measures, why PPE isn’t effective, and the extent of fines and prosecutions associated with HAVS.

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Matthew Snarr has been a barrister for over 20 years and specialises in personal injury cases both for defendants and claimants, predominantly working in large catastrophic cases.

Matthew joins us to talk about why some cases go to court, what happens if you end up at court, and how cases are won and lost.

We also discuss what it’s like being a defendant in court and how to best position yourself in this situation.

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Jacqui Mann is an HR expert, author, coach, and Founder of J Mann Associates, where she works with business owners to build a strong foundation on rock-solid employment law, helping them create a structure within the workplace that empowers staff and makes the company a desirable place to work.

Jacqui joins us to discuss why HR is so important, how it helps protect organisations, and the key risks for businesses that don’t manage their HR properly.

We also discuss the benefits of having a positive work culture, how to fix a toxic company culture, and ways to assess if your workplace culture is up to scratch.

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Ian Cooke is the Head of Corporate & Consumer services at NEBOSH, and has an extensive background in health and safety, education, risk management, and finance.

Ian joins us to discuss health and safety training, how it’s been done in the past, and how’s it changed over recent years.

We also talk about the future of training, including micro-learning, virtual reality, and the gamification of education.

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Gill Dixon is the Head of Risk and Compliance for property business Gerald Eve, she has an MBA in compliance and has been working in the field for over 15 years.

Gill joins us today to talk about how to communicate with and train your team to get compliance right no matter the position in the business they are in.

We also discuss themes around successful governance, compliance ethics, and powerful forms of communication.

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Stephen Sidebottom is the Board Chair at the Institute of Risk Management, a non-executive director, consultant, and global HR leader.

Stephen joins us today to discuss the trends in risk, how these have changed over recent years and the multifaceted nature that risk has.

We also discuss how attitudes towards risk and organisational values have shifted and what’s caused this change in our perceptions.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephensidebottom/?originalSubdomain=uk

You’ll learn

• The reframing of how organisations view risk and goals
• The multifaceted nature of risk and the two sides of risk management.
• The role of risk management in Equity, Diversity and Inclusion strategies.
• Consumer behavioural changes caused by social media.
• The shift in the way we develop our skills and progress our careers.
• The importance of being intentional in your skill development.

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Cameron Stevens is a Safety Technologist & Chartered Health & Safety Professional who works at the intersection of safety and technology to improve best practices around safety performance and productivity. He’s currently leading enterprise Augmented & Virtual Reality transformation for Lenovo in Australia and New Zealand.

Cameron joins us today to talk about what Safety Technology is, the extent technology influences health and safety work practices, and future megatrends we are seeing in Safety Technology.

We also discuss the importance of having the right mindset when looking at Safety Technology, and how we can change our mindset to be more productive and positive.

Today’s Guest 

Diane Chadwick-Jones worked for BP for over 30 years and oversaw their safety, culture, and Human and Organisational Performance (HOP) for the majority of her time there.

She is now a consultant, mentor, and academic, passionate about HOP. 

Diane joins us today, to talk about what HOP is, why we need it to inform our perception around safety, and what we can do to implement HOP. 

We also discuss other aspects of safety and risk, leading vs lagging indicators and why you shouldn't incentivise managers around safety and KPIs. 

What do we want? Safety! When do we want it? Now! And that's because health and safety should be everyone's business, as Oliver Williams (Product Lead - health & Safety at Worknest) explains in his chat with Christian Harris on this week's episode. Safety culture is clearly a hot topic and this podcast delves into this subject, sharing personal experiences and Worknest's insights.

Highlights:

✅ The results of Worknest's H&S survey of business decision makers and employees

✅ HSE annual workplace health and safety statistics

✅ How to interpret the results of these data points

✅ What can companies do to drive improvements in safety culture?

✅ Who should be involved and how can you start?

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Strategist and best-selling author Michele Wucker coined the term “gray rhino” as a call to take a fresh look at how we respond to obvious, probable, impactful risks. She joins Christian Harris on this week’s episode to delve into the risk on everyone’s minds right now in Ukraine, but also much more.

Interested in how to define risk and communicate it?

Wondering how risk can affect organisational culture and will drive the New World Of Work?

And what is a “gray rhino” anyway?

Check out the episode to find out

Some highlights:

✅ How does Michele define risk, and what does this tell us about

✅ What future risks does the Ukraine situation sine a light upon, and how should we react?

✅ Risk and organisational culture: how does risk appetite drive how businesses function?

✅ What do we need to consider about The Future of Work and reputation risks?

✅ Are slips and falls a gray rhino?

This was a great episode with Michele and we trust you will enjoy it. If you do, please:

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Food safety has been extremely prominent over recent years, particularly since the sad case of Natasha Ednan-Laperouse who died in 2016 of anaphylaxis after eating a baguette which contained sesame seeds. Brendon Ireland, a fully trained chef, director of the National College of Hospitality and a food safety consultant, joins Christian Harris this week to discuss all things food safety.

Some highlights of the episode:

✅ Does Brendon eat out and under what circumstances?

✅ How large is the food safety problem?

✅ Why do issues occur?

✅ Is the 5* hygiene rating an answer or a false hope?

✅ What is Brendon doing to help clients with food safety?

✅ What are the top 3 tips Brendon has for everyone in the audience to ensure food safety at home?

Interested in hearing a far-reaching fireside chat, covering some profound questions? Then this episode is for you. Amandeep Beesla, Director of Safety Insight & Innovation at Salus, joins Christian Harris to cover off topics including:

✅ Putting yourself out there for industry awards

✅ The role of women in safety and how this has changed / will continue to change

✅ Safetytech and the benefits of digitalising aspects of safety

✅ How the fabric of society has been profoundly altered since Covid and what does this mean for safety professionals

✅ Taking some risks in your spare time…

✅ And much more!

What do insurers want from clients and vice-versa? How can this relationship be moved from a transactional one to a long-term, mutually beneficial partnership? This is the central theme of this week’s podcast interview with Douglas Barnett, director of mid-market and risk management at AXA.

Talking points include:

✅ How have insurer-client relationships been in the past vs how they should be in an ideal world

✅ What are the drawbacks of getting this wrong, vs the benefits of getting it right?

✅ What is the insurance industry doing to improve customer experience for clients?

✅ What should clients do to become a “risk of choice”?

✅ How does AXA support this through its risk management offering, how does this work and where does Dougie see it going?

If you’re a business of any decent size, you’ll benefit from listening to this and implementing some of what is discussed

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Think the UK winters are harsh? Think again, as our guest this week, Dave Ferro, shares what an Albertan winter is like, but also, importantly, his top tips on winter safety.

Dave also touches on firearms safety – a little known fact is that Canada is the 7th largest country for firearms per head.

And he and Christian Harris also discuss post-injury loss reduction: how to minimise the costs, both financial, human and societal, of workplace injuries to everyone’s benefit.

Want to know what’s going on with online safety? Particularly concerned about any children in your family? Then you’ll want to listen to this interview with Ken Corish, Online Safety Director of the South West Grid for Learning Trust and the UK Safer Internet Centre who joins Christian Harris on this week’s podcast episode.

Some key highlights:

✅ The 4 C’s of how online risks are classified

✅ Exploring the latest emerging trends in online technology and their impact on risk, health and wellbeing

✅ Current UK and global political landscape and the drivers for change, particularly regulation

✅ Which approaches/strategies make the biggest difference in terms of empowering and protecting people online

About Ken:

Ken is Online Safety Director and SMT member with South West Grid for Learning Trust drawing on twenty years as a teacher and school leader and ten years as a BECTA award-winning Education Adviser with Plymouth’s ICT Team.

Ken’s broad canvas of experience and engaging presentation style has seen him work with a wide range of educators and agencies. He has trained all Education, Social Care and Early Years HMIs in aspects of online safeguarding and is responsible for shaping inspectors briefing sheets and training in online safety.

He developed and wrote the multi award-winning 360 degree safe online safety self-review tool and Online Compass tool. Along with fellow director, David Wright, he also created the BETT award-winning BOOST toolset for children’s settings.

He works with a broad range of national and international organisations and has spoken at global conferences in the Middle East, South Korea, Azerbaijan, Greece, Spain, Estonia, Europe and the US. He has recently written Online Safety standards with AQDAR for schools in UAE.

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Stefan Gershater, Global Director of Risk for Burberry, joins Christian Harris on this week’s Safety And Risk Success Podcast to encourage discussion around the definition of risk management.

From OODA Loops to “stop defining risk as a list of 50 bad things that might happen”, this is a fascinating conversation, which we are sure will promote some debate.

Stefan talks us through his background and the learnings along the way, from starting as a biochemist, to working in the military, to running a start-up and latterly heading up risk for various organisations. There are some key pillars which he believes should form the foundation of the maxim that “risk is something you need to be good at to drive better decision making”.

We’d love your feedback on this episode. Please join the discussion on Linkedin.

Mel Blackmore is the managing director of Blackmores, the host of the ISO Show podcast and has been involved with the creation, development and implementation of British and International standards for over 17 years. She joins Christian Harris on this week’s Safety And Risk Success Podcast to discuss “all you need to know about ISO.”

Key talking points:

✅ What trends have been driving the accreditation market?

✅ How does international co-operation work?

✅ When should a company seek to get accredited and which accreditation should they choose first?

✅ What are the key benefits of achieving an ISO standard?

✅ When is external, specialist support beneficial and how can this help?

✅ What new technology have Mel and her team developed to disrupt the market?

Feedback:

We always appreciate your feedback:

What did you like about this episode?

What did you learn?

What was the biggest “ah ha” moment?

Who else would you like to hear from on the podcast?

Ian Davies is a risk management leader in the pharmaceutical industry. He joins Christian Harris on this week’s episode to share his perspective on some big topics: from ESG and the climate emergency, to Covid, to the anti-vax problem (but don’t worry, we don’t touch on world peace!).

Some highlights of the interview include:

✅ The two sides to the risk management coin: risks vs opportunities

✅ Comparing the Covid response to the climate emergency

✅ How to incentivise business leaders over the long-term to ensure ESG is at the heart of decision making

✅ Why and how the pharmaceutical industry has worked together to fight against misinformation on Covid vaccines

✅ How BTG navigated Covid, including how their strategic decision to avoid working on a just-in-time basis paid dividends during the pandemic

Dene Mitchell, Vicky McMinn and Matt Ramsey of Armour Risk Consulting join Christian Harris in this week’s Safety And Risk Success Podcast episode to discuss the health element of health and safety.

Looking at the big trends in the last 18-24 months, there has been clear a focus on operational safety to ensure Covid security, but this is transitioning into getting health, particularly mental health, right.

Key talking points:

✅ What have the guys seen in terms of responses to Covid from their clients and why?

✅ Important steps to take

✅ Companies’ approaches to health and safety being a key differentiator when it comes to their future financial success

✅ The need for HR to blend with safety and risk management

✅ Riding the wave of increased awareness of safety thanks to the pandemic

✅ Taking a bespoke approach, by sector but even in some ways by individual, to risk assessment and advice

✅ Not forgetting the need to document, but being more pragmatic about this

As always, we hope you enjoy and get value from this episode:

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Armour Risk Consulting’s website: https://www.armour-risk.co.uk/

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James Abbott is head of sale for Anvil Traction, a manufacturer of slip resistant safety footwear technology specialising in slip resistant safety boots and shoes. His passion for workplace safety is deep-rooted and comes from his father being involved in the industry, too.

Some key points discussed in today’s podcast:

✅ Slip-resistance in footwear: why this is important, what are the key components

✅ Technology: the work that Anvil Traction is putting into what it calls Traction technology

✅ The holistic benefits of getting footwear right, given people wear these shoes for 1/3rd of their lives

✅ Sustainability: the three areas where we can improve

✅ James’ top tips on choosing the right footwear

This is a great episode, which underscores the point that safety often requires a broader and deeper understanding than many expect, but getting it right can have all sorts of benefits – not “just” safety.

Bonus prize – win a free pair of footwear!

James kindly offered a free pair of Anvil Traction footwear of the winner’s choice. All you need to do to be in with a chance of winning is follow Anvil Traction and Slip Safety Services on Linkedin

I was delighted to be asked by Lockton, one of the world's ten largest insurance brokers, to join a panel discussion about slips, trips and falls risks. And, kindly, they have allowed me to share the recording on the podcast

Here is what Lockton had to say about the event:

Slip, trip and fall risks remain a pervasive issue for businesses across a variety of sectors, and these still account for a large proportion of employers’ liability and public liability claims.

In the webinar, we learn how you can manage and offset these slip, trip and fall exposures, reduce claims, and take decisive steps towards decreasing your liability insurance premiums.

Bringing together risk management experts from Keoghs, QBE, Slip Safety Services, as well as in-house Lockton specialists, we advise on risk strategy, claims prevention, and how you can build a watertight approach to claims defensibility.

Plus, there was a chance for attendees to pose their questions to the experts in a live Q&A at the end of the session.

As always, I hope you enjoy this episode. If you do, please hit follow, and please share a review as this will help more people to become aware of the podcast

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Here is a copy of the slides I shared: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/christian-harris-slip-safety_tackle-the-slip-problem-with-4-ts-activity-6865202582046945280-3jt3

With COP26 taking place in Glasgow, your host, Christian Harris, was reminded about some thought leadership he wrote recently on the six key trends that businesses need to be aware of to best manage their risk – this includes the climate emergency.

In this special episode, Christian runs through the Six Trends, explaining the context and giving his commentary and insights:

• A developing claims culture
• The hardening insurance market
• A more penal criminal H&S sentencing environment
• The climate emergency
• The rise of procurement
• Demographics

We’d love your feedback:

Which of the 6 Trends were you most surprised by?

Which of the 6 Trends gives you most cause for concern?

How do you feel you’re performing on each of the 6 Trends and why?

Do you feel anything is missing? If so, what?

Wes Sierk specialises in captive insurance. He’s the President of Risk Management Advisers Inc. If you’ve never heard of captives, dive in and learn about the benefits of taking this more hands-on approach to your risk management and financial risk transfer.

As Wes’ Linkedin headline suggests: “Helping profitable business owners BEAT the insurance companies by BECOMING ONE. Reduce Premiums & Keep The Profit”

Key parts of the interview between Wes and Christian Harris:

☑️ What is captive insurance?

☑️ Why does this option exist?

☑️ When would it make sense for a business to consider, and what type of business should look into it?

☑️ Which trends are driving uptake in captive insurance?

☑️ What can the pitfalls be of getting it wrong, and why is some expert help beneficial?

Wes has a raft of additional resources available on his website and on YouTube. We encourage you to check them out!

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Sarah-Jane Brown is an EHO and current leads Cornwall Council’s Covid Response Team. She joins Christian Harris on this week’s Safety And Risk Success Podcast episode.

Two key topics are broached:

Cornwall Council’s response to Covid:

✅ what Sarah-Jane has seen

✅ where companies have done well and where there has been room for improvement

✅ how a pragmatic approach to enforcement has been successful

The death of Stanley May after he slipped and fell in a Co-Op store in Truro in 2015, which Sarah-Jane investigated and which Christian also had a small role in:

✅ how big a problem are slips and falls

✅ what has changed in this area over the years

✅ what can be done to get companies to take this issue more seriously?

Christian Hunt is the founder of Human Risk Limited and a specialist in behavioural science relating to compliance and ethics. He joins Christian Harris on this week’s Safety And Risk Success Podcast to ruminate on these themes.

When things go wrong, there’s always a human component — causing the problem or making it worse. We think of people as assets, but they're also the single largest driver of risks. So how can we get the best out of our employees, while minimising the risks they pose?

Some key highlights of the interview:

✅ What is “the human risk” and why is it important?

✅ How did Christian’s interest in this area arise?

✅ Where do companies typically do well in this area?

✅ Which areas of human risk tend to have the biggest room for improvement?

✅ What is defensive decision making?

✅ What do face masks and condoms have in common?(!)

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Crystal Danbury heads up safety, risk and insurance for Sainsbury’s. She joins Christian Harris on this week’s podcast to share some key insights from her journey, including:

☑️ Crystal’s back story, which cannot fail to inspire

☑️ The importance of good leadership and what that looks like

☑️ Why talk about leadership and less about safety?

☑️ Crystal’s three key areas to focus upon

☑️ Lessons learned from recent roles on how to implement

☑️ From whom and what Crystal draws inspiration, personally

We hope you enjoy this episode and learn something valuable from it. We’re confident you will.

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And, would you like to appear as a guest yourself? If so, please reach out to Christian on social media.

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A bonus Sliptember version of the podcast this week. Christian was delighted to be asked by IOSH to do a Sliptember webinar for the South Midlands Branch. This is an audio copy of that webinar.

Key points covered:

☑️ The SLP problem we face, with 3x big misconceptions leading to slips remaining a problem that isn’t confronted with the required effort and focus

☑️ The bridge from slip to grip

☑️ CHIMES – the six reasons slips happen

☑️ Pendulum slip testing and how, until you have this scientific data, you’re only ever guessing about how to stop slips

☑️ The 4 P’s of proactive safety and risk management

Greg Woods is a partner at law firm CMS. He specialises in defending personal injury claims on behalf of insurers and large self-insured organisations. Greg joins Christian Harris on this week’s Safety And Risk Success Podcast to discuss defending slip and trip insurance claims as well as the claims landscape for Covid, including working from home risks and the future of long Covid claims.

Key topics include:

• How can companies be in the best position to defend slip-and-fall claims?
• Where does Greg typically find people are strongest and where do they have most room for improvement?
• How helpful, and under what circumstances, are: yellow signs, check sheets and slip tests?
• What has happened to the “tsunami” of Covid claims that was expected / feared in mid-2020?
• What are some of the implications of working from home, or, conversely, ordering everyone back to the office?
• Will long Covid claims be a challenging – and expensive – issue as we move forward?

Greg is running a webinar on the Covid claims landscape in October. Look out for details of this coming soon.

James White and Werner du Plessis of Denis Rawlins join Christian Harris on this week’s Safety And Risk Success Podcast to discuss the critical importance of getting cleaning right.

The chat, naturally given it’s Sliptember season, covers slip-and-fall safety, but also the other aspects of how effective cleaning keeps buildings at their best and safest.

Other key points include:

• What are the issues caused by ineffective cleaning?
• How does Denis Rawlins seek to address these?
• Myth busting Covid cleaning
• The value of clean

Denis Rawlins is a leading supplier of innovative cleaning equipment, focussing on a scientific approach to cleaning and ensuring a tangible ROI to its clients.

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Amber Joesph oversees Tribology risk management for one of the world’s largest insurers, Liberty Mutual, so she’s the perfect guest for Christian Harris to invite onto the podcast during Sliptember to get an insurance company’s perspective on the slips-and-falls problem.

As Amber shares from Liberty Mutual’s Workplace Safety Index, slips-and-falls cause $13bn of costs each year in the USA.

Amber shares Christian’s passion for the subject, so they delve into topics such as:

• Running through the statistics from the Workplace Safety Index
• Claim costs and what is driving inflation in the USA
• Where do companies often do well
• Where can many companies improve
• Success stories of reducing accidents, injuries and claim costs

Do reach out to Amber if you’re based in the US and would like to learn more about what she and Liberty Mutual can help you with.

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What risk type are you? And why should you care?

Geoff Trickey, Founder & CEO at Psychological Consultancy Ltd, joins Christian Harris on this week’s episode of the Safety And Risk Success Podcast to discuss the Risk Type Compass.

This is an online diagnostic tool, developed by Geoff and his team, which calculates your risk type. It assesses the people side of risk and how this impacts our individual approaches to decision making.

Risk dispositions impact individuals' decision making, interpersonal relationships and team dynamics and organisations' risk culture.

The Risk Type Compass assesses risk appetite, supports leadership development, team development, board development, conflict resolution, selection and development processes and organisational change (and much more).

The discussion includes:

• How and why Geoff came up with the idea of the Risk Type Compass
• What is it? How does it work and what can the results be used for?
• The two axes measured: emotion and cognition
• The 8x risk types
• Christian’s risk type and what this means for him

The Compass should be a powerful tool in your armoury to better understand your own risk appetite, but also that of your team, enabling you to make more informed decisions.

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Anyone in the Safety And Risk Success Podcast audience can use the Risk Type Compass for free, receiving a one-page summary of your results, using the below details:

Graham Ford joins Christian Harris this week to talk about the importance of embedding safety into the design of buildings. Graham runs his own practice, Graham Ford +Architects, and has worked on several well-known buildings, from the Copper Box at London 2012, to the Roundhouse Theatre in Camden, to the Serpentine Boat House in Hyde Park.

Some highlights:

· Graham’s SPECS principles (Simplicity, Precision, Efficiency, Collaboration, Sustainability) – the method he and his team go through when supporting clients

· The roles and responsibilities of an architect, including how these relate to safety

· Trends in design

· Future-proofing buildings from a safety and maintenance perspective

· Sustainability – a big passion of Graham’s

· Fire safety in design, in the wake of the Grenfell tragedy

As always, thanks for listening

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Keeping building capacity under control has never been more critical. But how do you know what a safe capacity for your building is in a Covid world?

What about if you manage a large real estate portfolio and need to consider how to rationalise that given new capacity constraints and flexible working habits?

Enter Adil Ayi and Marwan el Marabet of Omnia. As their tag line says: “Get back to work with science”.

With their scientific backgrounds, they’ve turned their minds to solving these problems and have created a valuable modelling tool, which allows insight-based decision making.

From a floor plan, with a few clarifying questions, they can show you – based on typical human behaviour in an office environment – how users move around, how the risk of close contact changes over time, and even how often you should think about cleaning your coffee machine!

But also discussed were the other, longer-term possibilities their modelling could aid: from slips-and-falls to cleaning frequencies and much more.

Finally, the last section of the chat was all around how to position safety and risk with a board to influence them to act – a topic close to Christian’s heart and one that Adil and Marwan are navigating, now, too.

Check out the episode and, if we earned it, please give us a 5* rating and hit subscribe.

Anton is a burns survivor who’s become a passionate advocate for getting safety leadership right, ensuring psychological safety and, as he puts it: “To make safety safe: Safe to talk about, Safe to engage in and Safe to report about.”

He joins Christian Harris on this week’s podcast to discuss those topics and more, including:

☑️ Sharing their respective accident histories and how this drives them both on to promote proactivity in safety and risk

☑️ How should the word “lucky” be applied to people who’ve suffered accidents but survived?

☑️ What does leadership mean versus safety leadership? Why and how are they different?

☑️ Quick wins vs long-term improvements in safety

☑️ Creating and sharing content to achieve engagement & the importance of having appoint of view

Anton is a speaker, author, trainer and triathlete. He’s a great guy and a great guest – we are sure you’ll enjoy this episode!