
Search with Candour - SEO podcast
By Candour
Covering topics from attribution in GA4 to networking tips for introverts and everything in between.
Search With Candour the perfect way to kickstart your working week!


The Future of SEO: All-star Expert Panel Discusses Google, AI Mode and more
Jack Chambers-Ward gathers an esteemed panel of SEO all-stars: Dawn Anderson, Jono Alderson, Myriam Jessier, and, the birthday boy himself, Chris Green.
Together, they discuss the future of search, focusing on key topics such as the impact of AI mode, the evolution of search behaviour, and the transparency of data.
Tune in for an insightful discussion from these industry experts about how they are navigating the ever-shifting SEO landscape and what it means for the future of search marketing.
Follow Chris:
đWebsite: https://www.torquepartnership.com/
đLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisgreenseo/
đBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/chris-green.net
Follow Dawn:
đââď¸Website: https://bertey.com
đââď¸LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/msdawnanderson/
đââď¸Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/dawnieando.bsky.social
Follow Jono:
đŽWebsite: https://www.jonoalderson.com/
đŽLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonoalderson/
đŽBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/jono.id
Follow Myriam:
đNeurospicy: https://www.neurospicy.agency/
đ Pragm: https://www.pragm.co/
đLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/myriamjessier/
đBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/myriam.dopamine.builders
00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
02:32 Introducing the SEO all-stars
04:37 The Future of Search and AI
05:23 Social Contract with Google
11:39 Challenges and Opportunities in SEO
22:29 Legal and Ethical Considerations
27:55 Google's Role and Responsibilities
36:00 Impact of AI on Gen Z and Millennials
36:11 Google's Rethinking Search with AI
36:55 Organisational Commitment to AI
38:47 Challenges for Tool Providers
40:26 The Impact of Multimodal Search
47:13 What is âHigh Quality Contentâ?
57:09 Brand Trust and AI Narratives
01:08:12 Google's Market Share and Future
01:11:53 Closing Thoughts

Google Just Changed SEO Forever! The Big SEO News From Google I/O | Search with Candour with Mark Williams-Cook
Jack Chambers-Ward and Mark Williams-Cook explore all the latest updates from Google I/O 2025. There were some HUGE announcements, including AI mode, personalisation in search, and agentic search.
The discussion also covers the challenges of tracking traffic from AI Mode, ads in AI Overviews and AI Mode on ad revenue, and the future of content creation for informational websites. Plus, we answer listener questions and discuss reactions from across the SEO industry.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:16 Google IO Highlights and Initial Reactions
01:03 AI Mode launches in the US
03:34 Challenges and Opportunities with AI Mode
06:13 The Future of Rank Tracking and Personalisation
09:19 AI Agents coming to Google Search
14:54 Ads in AI Mode and AI Overviews
19:44 Deep Search and Content Visualisation
25:40 Q&A: How are you tracking AI traffic? How are you communicating with clients?
31:48 Q&A: Do you think that PAA questions will mirror prompts in the future will alsoasked.com pick these up?
33:54 Q&A: How do you think websites whose business model depends on informational content will survive?
42:24 Q&A: How can we navigate this time where execs must focus less on falling traffic & conversions?
43:46 Q&A: What is happening to our understanding of the user? Will we only need to understand how AI reasons, not humans?
50:13 Ashley Seguraâs reaction to Google I/O
51:03 Tamara NovitoviÄâs reaction to Google I/O
52:36 Sam Torresâs reaction to Google I/O
54:21 Final Thoughts and Future Discussions
Links
- https://youtu.be/bDVpI23q8Zg?si=hWf-BqZOyB46Av_M
- https://ahrefs.com/blog/google-ai-mode-is-here-but-you-cant-track-it-properly/
- https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ashley-segura_googleio-googleio-contentstrategy-activity-7330977072435077120-C5xr
- https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tamara-novitovic_seo-bazoom-linkbuilding-activity-7330938839110258688-xbRc
- https://www.linkedin.com/posts/samantha-torres-seo_googles-announcement-for-ai-mode-as-a-user-activity-7331052950104018944-qhJr

Free Keyword Research Tools You Need To Know | Kobi Omenaka
Kobi Omenaka joins Jack Chambers-Ward to explore ways to find keywords for free.
They discuss the benefits of using customer conversations, news trends, and various free tools like Google Keyword Planner and Search Console.
The episode also delves into the importance of understanding search intent and maximising the impact of small, engaged communities.
Tune in for actionable tips and strategies to enhance your keyword research without breaking the bank.
Follow Kobi
- Kobiâs digital marketing: https://kobestarr.io/
- Kobiâs podcasts: https://stripped.media/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kobiomenaka/
- Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/kobestarr.bsky.social
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kobestarr/
00:00 Introduction to Free Keyword Research
01:19 Meet the Guest: Kobe Omenaka
04:13 Kobe's Digital Marketing and Podcasting Journey
07:21 Exploring Free Keyword Research Tools and Strategies
20:47 The Importance of Understanding Customer Language
33:03 Understanding Your Audience
34:16 The Power of Branding
36:25 The Importance of Touchpoints
40:10 Keyword Research and Content Creation
49:53 Community Engagement and SEO
54:16 Kobiâs recommendations
01:03:28 Conclusion and Upcoming Episodes

Will SEO & Google Ads be killed by AI search engines? | Search with Candour with Greg Finn
Join Jack Chambers-Ward for a conversation with Greg Finn, co-founder of Cypress North and co-host of â¨the fantastic Marketing O-Clock and It's New podcasts.
The lads discuss what the next five years will look like for PPC Google Ads, SEO, and digital marketing. Greg shares insights on the evolving landscape of AI in search, the growing integration of ads, and the importance of adapting to new trends and technologies.
Jack and Greg also discuss how digital marketers should break out of niche silos and pay attention to the broader changes in the industry.
We also learn how much Greg loves revenge.
Spoiler: It's a lot.
Links to follow Greg:
đCypress North: https://cypressnorth.com/
đ§Marketing OâClock: https://marketingoclock.com/
đLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfinn
âśď¸Itâs New: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxGhOTUAj8SzDiusE8ThupSmCw9Hds8Mp
Recommendations
đ ď¸Recommended tool = https://www.scrapebox.com/
đNever Split the Difference by Chris Voss https://bookspaperscissors.co.uk/collections/business/products/never-split-the-difference-by-chris-voss
đRadical Candor by Kim Scott - https://www.radicalcandor.com/
đŞReacher on Amazon Prime
đThe Terminal List - https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/the-terminal-list/
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:12 Introducing Greg Finn
02:46 The Importance of Staying Informed in Digital Marketing
04:18 The Evolution of PPC and SEO
05:48 Challenges and Changes in the Digital Marketing Landscape
07:47 The Role of AI in Digital Marketing
11:50 The Future of Search and Digital Marketing
14:21 Adapting to New Trends and Technologies
16:11 The Impact of AI on PPC and SEO
19:17 The Shift Towards Community and Creator-Based Content
36:26 Following Writers and Artists: A Game-Changing Experience
37:01 The Rise of Authenticity in Content Creation
37:54 The Shift in Publishing and Content Creation
38:51 The Future of AI in Search and Advertising
39:34 Challenges and Opportunities in AI-Powered Search
40:12 The Evolution of Ads in AI Search
41:57 The Impact of AI on SEO and PPC
44:41 The Future of Keyword Targeting and Search Behaviour
46:40 The Role of Personas and Broad Match in Advertising
48:16 The Challenges of Data and Reporting in AI Search
54:30 The Future of Subscription Models in Search Engines
57:34 Tools and Recommendations for Marketers
01:03:59 Concluding Thoughts and Future Episodes

Optimising Content for LLMs: AI SEO Insights with Irina Papuc | Search With Candour
Jack Chambers-Ward is joined by Irina Papuc, co-founder of Galactic Fed, to discuss the intricacies of creating content that ranks well in LLMs and AI search engines.
Irina has an extensive background in digital marketing (and even worked at CERN on the Large Hadron Collider!), offers valuable insights into optimising content for AI search and the future landscape of SEO.
They discuss topics like the importance of authentic content, brand mentions, and the potential decline of traditional link-building in the evolving digital marketing space.
Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation packed with expert advice and practical tips for staying ahead in the rapidly changing world of SEO.
Links to follow Irina Papuc
đFollow Irina on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/irinapapuc/
Irina's Recommendation
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:57 Meet Irina Papuc: Co-Founder of Galactic Fed
02:08 The Future of AI Search and LLMs
02:58 The Rise of Chat GPT and AI Search Engines
06:24 Optimising Content for AI Overviews
22:35 The Importance of Brand Mentions in AI
32:21 The Focus on Ad Revenue
32:44 Exploring Alternative Search Engines
34:01 The User Experience in Search
35:13 Google's Response to AI Competition
37:06 The Future of Search and Brand Loyalty
41:52 The Importance of Authenticity in Content Creation
52:13 Irinaâs Recommendations
57:53 Outro

Maximise Your SEO with AI Agents: Insights from Tom Winter of SEO Wind
Join Jack Chambers-Ward in this episode of Search with Candour as he sits down with Tom Winter from SEO Wind to discuss the future of SEO and AI agents.
Discover how AI agents can optimise your workflow and solve problems using multiple tools.
Tom breaks down the technical aspects and practical applications of AI in SEO, touching on keyword clustering, internal linking, and content creation.
Plus, get insights into the latest trends and the future evolution of search and technology.
Follow Tom Winter
âSEO Wind: https://seowind.io/
âTom on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-winter/
Recommendations
âMake.com: https://www.make.com/
âHunch Tools: https://hunch.tools/
âCrystal Carter - LLM visibility: https://www.wix.com/seo/learn/resource/llm-visibility-vs-seo-kpis
Resources
âhttps://deepmind.google/technologies/project-mariner/
âhttps://ai.google.dev/competition/projects/jarvis-ai-2
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to AI Agents and SEO
00:59 Meet Your Host and Guest
01:38 Understanding AI Agents
04:10 Defining AI Agents and Their Uses
06:04 AI Agents vs. Workflows
09:21 Human Element in AI Processes
15:36 Automating Reporting and Workflows
23:25 Content Creation with AI Agents
29:39 Overcoming Analysis Paralysis in Content Creation
30:49 The Challenge of Internal Linking with AI
34:06 Leveraging Google Search Console for SEO
37:25 The Future of AI Agents in Search
42:44 The Evolution of Search Queries
45:54 The Role of AI Agents in Everyday Tasks
49:22 Monetisation Challenges for AI Agents
51:47 Predictions for the Future of SEO
54:19 Recommended Tools and Resources
57:10 Conclusion and Upcoming Episodes

How to Start Your Own Marketing Agency | Search with Candour featuring Matt Kohli
In this week's episode of Search with Candour, Jack Chambers-Ward is joined by returning guest Matt Kohli.
In his third appearance, Matt details his journey from being a freelancer to starting his own marketing agency, Fortitude Marketing.
The conversation covers the challenges of transitioning roles, the importance of building a reliable team, learning to trust others, and not overpromising to clients and focusing on delivering results.
Matt's recommendations
đ ď¸Tool Recommendation - â¨Sparktoro
đBook Recommendation - Psycho-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz
Follow Matt Kohli
âśď¸Matt's previous episode
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:55 Introducing Matt Kohli and His Journey
04:34 Challenges and Strategies in Building an Agency
08:56 Importance of Collaboration and Client Communication
13:26 Managing Finances and Essential Tools for an Agency
16:12 The Value of Niching Down and Offering Multi-Channel Services
24:09 Balancing Strategic and Hands-On Work in an Agency
33:27 Reflecting on Experience and Continuous Learning
38:54 The Importance of Community and Networking
43:01 Challenges and Realities of Starting an Agency
45:26 Balancing Flexibility and Structure
56:21 Managing Expectations and Delivering Promises
58:05 Weekly Recommendations and Closing Thoughts

How To Build Your Personal Brand - LIVE from Brighton with The SEO Mindset
Disclaimer: Sorry for the audio quality, technical difficulties meant we had to use our backup audio! Jack tried his best to fix it - we hope you can still enjoy the episode!
Search with Candour and The SEO Mindset podcast bring you another amazing podcast event, live from Brighton!
Sarah, Tazmin and Jack will be giving actionable tips and advice on authentic personal branding as well as sharing their own experiences. Together, weâll explore strategies to define, communicate, and amplify your unique value. Get ready to unlock your potential and leave with tools to build a brand that truly represents you and your business.
Headline sponsor - SISTRIX
SISTRIX is the all-in-one SEO toolbox for those who want to succeed on Google, Amazon and Facebook.
With SISTRIX's market-leading tools, you can optimise your website according to the latest Google guidelines, track competitors on Amazon and easily generate and perform research across Tiktok, Instagram and YouTube.
The SEO Mindset podcast
- Subscribe on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn2ul-U03T10Mmp4thdCbQ_M555xelzXh
- Follow on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/7fHOicztfKEL3yElQLpc2w?si=b7390f9a726e4d0a
- Follow on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-seo-mindset-podcast/id1617543592
Search with Candour
- Subscribe on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8c8k5Yy8FltVNsIsP1iUCSXDfE5cq2pM Follow on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4AILSpWLI74daOhECb8Hm0?si=72a9f68d2c0f40bc
- Follow on Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/search-with-candour-seo-podcast/id1456880812

Mapping user journeys with Grace Frohlich
Jack Chambers-Ward is joined by guest Grace Frohlich, SEO Senior Manager at Brainlabs, to explore how to map user journeys and understand customer paths in search.
Grace also shares insights into using AI to create detailed user personas and map motivations behind searches and practical steps for tracking user journeys and keyword tagging to enhance search strategies.
Follow Grace
- Brainlabs: https://www.brainlabsdigital.com/
- Follow Grace on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grace-frohlich/
- Grace's article on Wix: https://www.wix.com/seo/learn/resource/user-journey-map-for-seo
- Grace's Whiteboard Friday: https://moz.com/blog/chatgpt-customer-journey-whiteboard-friday
- Grace's talk at BrightonSEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4_9Yj9yDUg
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to User Journeys
01:56 Sponsored by AlsoAsked
03:21 Introducing Grace Frohlich
04:31 Understanding User Journeys
07:16 The Importance of Search Intent
15:03 Creating Bespoke User Personas
20:16 Motivations and Non-Linear Journeys
25:49 Search Intent and Motivations
30:08 The Evolution of Search in 2025
30:22 Personalised and Conversational Search
32:33 Integrating Social Platforms into Customer Journeys
36:42 Milestones and Pain Points in User Journeys
46:32 Tracking and Organizing Search Data
54:34 Final Thoughts and Future Episodes

BrightonSEO Recommendations & Google Warming - with Mark Williams-Cook
Jack Chambers-Ward and Mark Williams-Cook discuss the excitement and preparations for Aprilâs BrightonSEO.
Mark gives a preview of his talk, the duo pick some of the talks theyâre looking forward to as well as the live podcast Jack is co-hosting with Sarah and Tazmin from the SEO Mindset podcast.
The episode also delves into Dr. Pete Myersâ article on the increasing volatility of Google updates, with the delightful pun of 'Google warming,' and how this rapid evolution only makes the SEO landscape more complex.
BrightonSEO April 2025 Talk Recommendations
Markâs picks:
- https://brightonseo.com/talks/custom-event-tracking-in-ga4-for-saas
- https://brightonseo.com/talks/does-structured-data-markup-influence-eeat
- https://brightonseo.com/talks/fake-eeat-until-you-make-eeat
Jackâs picks:
- https://brightonseo.com/talks/data-driven-seo-a-framework-based-approach
- https://brightonseo.com/talks/query-counting-for-seo-why-you-need-to-be-paying-attention
- https://brightonseo.com/talks/how-to-fight-giants-seo-secrets-for-challenger-brands
Dr Peter Myers - Google Warming https://moz.com/blog/charting-the-google-algorithm
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:11 BrightonSEO Preparations and Excitement
01:40 Diving Adventures in Brighton
02:52 A Preview of Markâs BrightonSEO Talk
07:37 Upcoming BrightonSEO Talks and Recommendations
08:23 Custom Event Tracking in GA4 for SaaS - Bengß SarĹca Dinçer
09:13 Data-driven SEO: A Framewor Based Approach - Kazushi Nagayama
11:25 Does Structured Data Markup Influence EEAT? - Jarno van Driel
12:58 Query Counting for SEO - Daniel Foley Carter
14:16 Fake EEAT until you make EEAT - Emma-Elizabeth Byrne
18:22 Moderating and Live Podcast Plans
19:48 Upcoming Show Floor Interviews and Live Podcast
20:21 Google's Frequent and Volatile Updates
21:34 Impact of AI on Search and Content
25:27 Challenges with AI Accuracy and Reliability
28:47 The Future of Personalized Search
38:38 Concluding Thoughts and Future Plans

Ex-Google senior employee Kaspar Szymanski explains what really matters in SEO
Kaspar Szymanski, a former senior member of the Google Search Quality Team, joins Jack Chambers-Ward to discuss whatâs important in SEO in 2025.
They discuss cutting through the noise to focus on impactful strategies for businesses and cover topics ranging from the hidden value of server logs to a holistic approach to SEO.
Links to follow Kaspar:
- Website: https://www.searchbrothers.com/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kasparszymanski/
- Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/seozen.com
Links/resources:
- https://searchengineland.com/seo-noise-vs-signals-449671
- https://searchengineland.com/forget-pagerank-focus-on-ranking-437676
- https://searchengineland.com/why-server-logs-matter-for-seo-378199
- https://searchengineland.com/10-reasons-seo-just-like-fitness-260070
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:45 Sponsor: AlsoAsked
04:10 Welcome Kaspar Szymanski
05:38 Navigating Google Updates
12:11 The Role of Server Logs in SEO
20:28 Branding and SEO: A Crucial Connection
35:52 Leveraging Bing and Other Search Engines
38:43 Exploring Webmaster Tools and Alternatives
40:23 SEO Strategies for Small Businesses
42:45 The Risks and Rewards of Backlink Marketplaces
49:40 The Importance of a Holistic SEO Approach
59:21 Interdisciplinary Nature of SEO
01:15:04 Outro and Upcoming Episodes

AI in Content Creation: Challenges & Opportunities with Erika Varangouli
In this episode of Search With Candour, host Jack Chambers-Ward discusses the impact of AI on content creation with guest Erika Varangouli.
They discuss how to stand out in an oversaturated market, the importance of brand consistency across channels, and the role of humour and distinct voice in marketing.
The episode also touches on the challenges and opportunities LLMs pose, ethical considerations, and potential future trends.
Plus, enjoy some banter about heavy metal gigs and what Erika thinks is the greatest movie sequel ever.
đď¸Get your free tickets for the live podcast:https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/1225103580789?aff=oddtdtcreator
Links to follow Erika:
đCheck out Riverside.fm: https://riverside.fm/
đFollow Erika on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/varangouli/
đFollow Erika on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/finderika.bsky.social
Links to resources/references:
âśď¸ https://youtu.be/WrNWRHNfi1k?si=SLVlz68B5zDov9LM đ https://www.seerinteractive.com/insights/how-ai-overviews-are-impacting-ctr-5-initial-takeaways
đ§ https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/sequelisers-524261/episodes/season-2-episode-8-godfather-p-24275030
00:00 Introduction
02:38 Live Podcast Announcement
04:29 Introducing Erika Varangouli
06:00 A Fun Chat: Metal Music and Personal Stories
15:09 The State of Content Strategies in 2025
33:45 The Changing Landscape of SEO and Content Creation
34:59 Google's Evolution and the Impact of AI
36:26 The Challenge of Creating Diverse Content
37:43 The Decline of Organic Click-Through Rates
38:42 The Future of SEO and Content Marketing
41:01 Balancing Brand Voice Across Channels
44:53 The Role of AI in Content Summarisation
47:03 The Importance of Brand Consistency
53:28 The Risks and Rewards of Brand Management
01:04:29 Conclusion

Navigating JavaScript and Website Migrations with Sam Torres & Tory Gray
Join host Jack Chambers Ward as he sits down with Sam Torres and Tory Gray of Gray Dot Company.
They delve into the intricacies of JavaScript and its impact on website migrations, discussing common issues, best practices, and how to navigate the technical landscape.
This episode also touches on the existential dread that comes with the future of AI in search engines, learning JavaScript for SEO, and the importance of brand alignment across digital channels.
đď¸Get your free tickets for the live podcast:
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/1225103580789?aff=oddtdtcreator
Follow Sam & Tory
đWebsite: https://thegray.company/
âĄď¸Gray Dot LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/graydotco/
âĄď¸Samâs LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samantha-torres-seo/
âĄď¸Toryâs LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torygray/
đŚToryâs Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/tory.thegray.co
đŚSamâs BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/sam.thegray.co
âśď¸YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GrayDotCo
Brilliant SEO Communities
đ¤https://www.womenintechseo.com/
đ¤https://theseocommunity.com/
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:11 Podcast Announcements and Updates
02:42 Live podcast - 9 April 2025 in Brighton
04:36 Welcome Sam Torres and Tory Gray
06:59 Common Issues in JavaScript Migrations
08:42 JavaScript Rendering and SEO Challenges
15:03 JavaScript Site Audits and Migration Tips
17:43 Benefits of JavaScript Front Ends
28:26 Choosing the Right JavaScript Framework
31:08 Navigating Developer Communication
31:56 Challenges with External Agencies
32:17 Respect and Understanding in Tech
34:45 The Evolution of the SEO Industry
37:12 JavaScript and the Future of Search
39:06 AI's Impact on Jobs and the Environment
40:03 The Cost of JavaScript for Google
51:51 Learning JavaScript for SEOs
56:10 Community and Resources for SEOs
57:17 Outro and Upcoming Guests

Branded search in 2025 | Mordy Oberstein
In this week's episode of Search With Candour, Jack Chambers Ward & Mordy Oberstein from Unify Brand Marketing cover how brands can set themselves apart in an increasingly noisy digital landscape.
They discuss how brands can effectively manage their SERPs and audience perceptions. The episode explores the significance of brand mentions, scepticism in digital content, and why solid brand identity is crucial moving forward.
Itâs quite a wide-ranging conversation that touches on everything from performance marketing to pro wrestling and baseball, rounding off with Mordyâs expert predictions on the future of branding and SEO.
Follow Mordy
đWebsite - https://www.unifybrandmarketing.com/
đMordy on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mordyoberstein/
đUnify Brand Marketing on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/unify-brand-marketing/
Bluesky
đMordy on Bluesky - https://bsky.app/profile/mordyoberstein.bsky.social
đUnify Brand Marketing - https://bsky.app/profile/unifybranding.bsky.social
Podcasts
đSERPâs Up - https://www.wix.com/seo/learn/podcast
đItâs New - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxGhOTUAj8SzDiusE8ThupSmCw9Hds8Mp&si=s9jA6dtjEC2I8mFL
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:59 Sponsor: AlsoAsked
04:24 Morty Oberstein's Return and Inside Jokes
06:55 Defining Branded Search and Its Challenges
15:59 The Complexity of Measuring Brand Search
27:28 Nike's B2C Strategy and the Impact of COVID
34:45 Balancing Trust and Skepticism in Branding
35:54 Addressing Skepticism in Marketing
38:01 The NFL and Brand Manipulation
45:07 Skepticism in the Digital Age
46:17 The Broken State of the Web and TV
56:41 The Importance of Brand Alignment
01:03:39 The Future of Brands in the Age of AI
01:08:55 Conclusion and Upcoming Episodes

SEO Pagination Best Practices & Google's Sneaky Anti-Spam Tactics | Mark Williams-Cook
In this episode of Search with Candour, Jack Chambers-Ward and Mark Williams-Cook discuss best practices for SEO pagination, a Google patent that targets spam tactics and a theory by Tabby Farrar about gaining links via citations in LLMs.
Links
đFollow Mark
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:08 AlsoAsked Merchandise and BrightonSEO Sponsorship
04:40 Can You Gain Accidental Backlinks from AI Content?
10:56 Debate on Pagination Best Practices
22:03 SEO Misconceptions and Canonicalization Issues
24:44 Pagination Challenges in E-commerce
26:16 User Experience vs. SEO Solutions
28:26 SEO Patent Podcast and Rank Transition Function
32:56 Google's Anti-Spam Tactics
38:17 A/B Testing and SEO Strategies
43:22 Wrapping Up and Future Plans

Prove your topical authority to Google | Dani Leitner
Join host Jack Chambers-Ward as he sits down with SEO consultant and trainer Dani Leitner to discuss the complex world of building topical authority in the eyes of Google.
Dani & Jack explore how Google might measure topical authority in the future, discuss the importance of recognising and addressing your audience's education level, and break down strategic ways to demonstrate your authority in the eyes of users and search engines.
Dani highlights key parts of her strategy for building topical authority through guest posts, podcast appearances, speaking at conferences and more.
Sponsored by Serpzilla
đGet a free demo & consultation to help you develop effective link-building strategies -https://serpzilla.com/?utm=swcpodcast
Follow Dani Leitner
đWebsite:https://danileitner.ch/en/
đ§English Newsletter:https://danileitner.ch/en/google-hates-you-newsletter/
âď¸Dani's hub on Topical Authority:https://danileitner.ch/en/blog/seo-strategy-topical-authority/
đLinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/dani-leitner/
đBluesky:https://bsky.app/profile/danileitner.bsky.social
âśď¸YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@danileitner
đTwitter/Xhttps://x.com/DanielaLeitner2
đInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/danileitner.ch/
00:00 Introduction
02:09 Sponsored by Serpzilla
03:49 Welcome Dani Leitner
04:50 Discussion on Topical Authority in SEO
07:12 Challenges and the Future of Topical Authority
16:36 Strategies for Building Topical Authority
25:14 Localisation and Language Nuances in SEO
31:50 The Role of Expertise in Content Creation
40:02 The Rise of Conversational Search
40:38 Future of Keywords in SEO
41:26 Challenges with AI and Search Intent
42:37 Entity vs. Keyword Discussion
45:30 Importance of Client Feedback
47:15 Aligning Marketing and Sales Strategies
53:22 Building Topical Authority
01:08:45 Measuring Topical Authority
01:18:31 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The Future of Google and AI Search with Itamar Blauer
In this episode of the Search with Candour podcast, Jack Chambers-Ward is joined by special guest, @ItamarBlauer , Host of SEO Unplugged and Senior SEO Director at StudioHawk.
They delve into the evolving landscape of search, focusing on Googleâs recent challenges and the rise of AI-driven search platforms.
Amidst the rapid advancements and shifting user behaviours, they explore the critical role of personalisation and the potential paths Google must take to regain trust and market share.
The conversation also touches on the practical uses of AI as a productivity tool, the implications of LLMs in our daily lives, and how SEO professionals should adapt to these changes.
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00:00 Introduction
02:06 Sponsor: AlsoAsked
03:31 Guest Background and Welcome
04:38 Discussion on Google's AI Challenges
12:11 User Behaviour and Search Trends
29:56 Legal and Geographical Challenges for Google
34:27 The Rapid Evolution of Technology
35:04 Legal and Ethical Concerns
35:45 The Acceleration of AI and Quantum Computing
39:11 Google's Struggle to Maintain Trust
49:34 The Importance of Personalization
57:17 Adapting to AI in Marketing
59:35 Concluding Thoughts and Future Episodes

Create content that converts | Steven Schneider
In this episode of the Search With Candour podcast, host Jack Chambers-Ward and guest Stephen Schneider cover the importance of strong site structure, internal links, and conversion rate optimisation (CRO). They also discuss the role of user experience (UX) and how to leverage tools like Google Analytics 4 (GA4) and AI to enhance your content marketing efforts.
Additionally, Jack and Stephen explore the integration of SEO with other marketing channels and the power of authentic branding and personal connections in today's digital landscape.
Whether you're a seasoned marketer or just getting started, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you drive high-intent organic traffic and boost conversions.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:17 Sponsored by PPC Chat Roundup
07:00 Introducing Stephen Schneider and Trio SEO
08:05 Strategies for Creating High-Converting Content
10:02 The Importance of Internal Linking
18:40 Client Collaboration and Content Strategy
24:10 Handling Bad Content and Client Relationships
29:04 Leveraging AI for Data Consolidation
31:09 The Role of CTAs in SEO Content
36:14 Balancing User Experience with Ad Revenue
41:37 The Power of Influencer Marketing
51:52 Integrating CRO and SEO for Better Conversions
55:16 The Importance of Networking in Business
55:47 Conclusion

SEO Insights and Debates: Consensus, Tech SEO Value & Traffic Trends | Mark Williams-Cook
In this week's episode of Search with Candour, hosts Jack Chambers-Ward and Mark Williams-Cook share insights and initiate debates surrounding critical SEO topics.
The dynamic duo discusses the role of consensus in SEO, particularly scrutinising how its interpretation affects how much users trust search engines.
They delve into the value of technical SEO, especially for small businesses, and question the efficacy of a one-size-fits-all approach.
Jack and Mark further explore the concept of traffic depreciation when SEO efforts stop.
Chapters
00:00 Welcome to Search with Candour
01:23 Sponsor: PPC Chat Roundup
06:05 Consensus in SEO: Clearing Misunderstandings
19:00 The Value of Tech SEO for Small Businesses
25:33 SEO Strategy: The Importance of Early Publishing
25:58 The Flaws of One-Size-Fits-All SEO Packages
26:32 Tailoring SEO to Client Needs
28:33 Technical SEO and Crawling Issues
31:49 The Impact of SEO on Long-Term Traffic
37:57 Maintaining SEO Success and Competitor Analysis
40:35 The Importance of Continuous SEO Efforts
43:50 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Why SEO & PPC Teams Must Work Together | Anu Adegbola
Jack Chambers-Ward and Anu Adegbola, an international PPC consultant and paid media editor at Search Engine Land discuss the significance of SEO and PPC team communication and collaboration.
They explore strategies for sharing insights, tools, and data, as well as aligning goals to navigate Google updates and improve overall digital marketing results.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction 02:37 Sponsored by AlsoAsked 04:02 Anu Adegbola's Background 04:41 SEO and PPC Collaboration 07:17 The Importance of Fresh Perspectives 16:50 Leveraging Customer Insights 20:23 SEO and PPC Best Practices 31:12 Testing and Adapting Strategies 35:08 The Importance of Flexibility in PPC 35:48 The Power of Brand Consistency 37:19 Navigating Attribution Challenges 38:43 Aligning Marketing Channels 41:28 Building Trust and Communication 43:38 Understanding Marketing Goals 51:41 The Role of PPC in SEO 54:09 The Future of PPC and SEO Collaboration 59:18 Where to Follow Anu 01:04:39 Upcoming Guests and Future Topics
Links to follow Anu:
Website: https://www.themarketinganu.com/
PPC Live: https://ppc.live/ / https://www.youtube.com/@ppclive
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/themarketinganu/
Bluesky: themarketinganu.bsky.social
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/themarketinganu
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Are backlinks still worth it in 2025? - Tamara Novitovic
In this episode of Search With Candour, host Jack Chambers-Ward discusses the evolving value of backlinks in 2025 with guest Tamara Novitovic from Bazoom Group.
They explore how link building strategies need to adapt, the impact of AI on SEO, and why backlinks remain crucial.
The conversation covers which metrics matter for link-building and future trends that will shape the SEO landscape.
Whether you're reconsidering your link-building strategy or curious about the future of SEO, this episode offers invaluable insights for you!
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:52 Sponsor: AlsoAsked
03:17 The Value of Links in 2025
04:55 Holistic Approach to Link Building
09:30 Metrics and Relevancy in Link Building
18:48 Content Strategy and Link Building
22:57 Interactive Content and Future Trends
33:08 Balancing Freshness and Relevancy
37:45 The Power of Data in Client Convincing
38:14 Learning from Industry Peers
38:56 The Reality of Working with Clients
39:27 Becoming a Trendsetter in SEO
40:53 The Role of AI in SEO
43:56 Using AI for Data Analysis
48:05 Combining Data Sources for Better Insights
53:46 The Future of AI in SEO
01:05:34 Predictions for Link Building
01:09:11 Conclusion and Future Plans

How SEO Changed in 2024: The web almanac with Jamie Indigo
In the first episode of 2025, host Jack Chambers-Ward is joined by Jamie Indigo, an expert in technical SEO and an overall delightful human being.
Jamie guides Jack through the findings from the 2024 Web Almanac's SEO chapter including technical data changes over recent years, offering insights and predictions for the future.
Jamie also highlights AI's rising influence, the importance of robots.txt, Core Web Vitals updates, and structured data advancements.
Follow Jamie:
- Website: https://not-a-robot.com/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-indigo/
- Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/not-a-robot.com
- Rich Snippets: https://trafficthinktank.com/rich-snippets/
Resources
- Web Almanac 2024 - SEO Chapter: https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2024/seo
- Performance chapter: https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2024/performance
- Maggie Appleton Dark Forest: https://maggieappleton.com/ai-dark-forest
- https://youtu.be/1OvasjokuaA?si=UBNiK07uyWHjd2HX by Jess Sankhavaram-Peck
Chapters
- 00:00 Welcome to 2025: Kicking Off the New Year
- 01:11 Sponsored by SE Ranking https://seranking.com/?sou1=influencers&gr1=podcast&tg1=search_with_candour&kw1=com_first_ad&utm_source=influencers&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=com_first_ad_search_with_candour
- 02:45 Introducing Jamie Indigo: Technical SEO Expert
- 03:56 What is the Web Almanac?
- 04:43 Exploring the Methodology: Data and Analysis
- 13:47 Dynamic Rendering and Robots.txt: Trends and Changes
- 20:44 Meta Robots Directives: New Data Insights
- 29:03 Canonical Tags Explained
- 29:37 Consistency in SEO
- 33:53 JavaScript and SEO Misconceptions
- 34:51 Structured Data Insights
- 39:34 The Role of Knowledge Graphs
- 46:10 Core Web Vitals Update
- 50:05 Wrapping Up and Future Plans

2024 SEO Highlights and 2025 SEO Predictions
In this special episode of Search With Candour, hosts Jack Chambers-Ward and Mark Williams-Cook sit down with guests Arnout Hellemans, Yagmur Simsek, and Begum Kaya.
Recorded in a brand new studio to celebrate the finale of Season 3, the panel discusses SEO industry highlights from 2024, and makes some SEO predictions for 2025.
Topics include the rise of AI, shifts in search engine market shares, and the ever-evolving landscape of SEO. The conversation extends to personal branding, the importance of community in SEO, and how the integration of AI could reshape the search experience in the coming years.
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- Follow Arnout Hellemans on LinkedIn and Bluesky
- Follow Yagmur Simsek on LinkedIn and Search 'n' Stuff
- Follow Begum Kaya on LinkedIn
Chapters
00:00 Welcome
00:17 Introducing Our Special Guests
02:38 Highlights of 2024 in SEO
11:53 The Impact of AI on SEO
27:06 Building Trust and Brand in SEO
43:09 The Long-Term Impact of SEO Tips
43:31 The Challenge of Measuring Long-Term SEO Success
44:08 The Human Element in SEO
44:51 The Evolution of SEO Communities
45:51 Conversational Search and AI
47:00 The Future of Search Engines
49:19 The Role of AI in Everyday Tasks
01:03:41 The Impact of AI on Jobs and Society
01:13:01 Predictions for the Future of Search
01:25:58 Closing Thoughts

Google Exploit Data Discussion with Mark Williams-Cook
Jack Chambers-Ward and Mark Williams-Cook follow up on Mark's popular Search Norwich talk about conceptual models for SEO and his recent Google exploit discovery.
Mark & Jack explore the details of the fascinating Google exploit, dissect the talk's key points, and answer questions from the community.
The duo also preview next weekâs big episode featuring three special guests and discuss the revamped format for Search With Candour in their cosier setting.
Stay tuned for exclusive insights into Google's data, how Google classifies queries, and what this all means for SEO in 2025.
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Chapters
00:00 Welcome to Search with Candour
00:15 Studio Updates and Upcoming Guests
01:13 Exploring the Google Exploit
01:29 Sponsor: SE Ranking
02:50 Sponsor: Optmyzr
05:53 Advanced SEO and Conceptual Models
10:13 Understanding SEO Through Video Games
11:25 The Importance of Conceptual Models in SEO
14:53 Google Exploit Data and Its Implications
21:18 Site Quality Score and SERP Features
30:27 Optimising Click-Through Rates
33:25 The Twiddler Framework Explained
35:25 Google's Predicted Click-Through Model
37:53 The Role of Expertise in SEO
43:38 What Protobuf Is and How It Works
48:07 Wrapping Up and Future Plans

The Top 10 Episodes of Search With Candour in 2024
Jack Chambers Ward celebrates the near end of the year with a Spotify Wrapped-style recap of the podcast's top episodes from 2024.
Jack highlights the top 10 most watched and listened to episodes, along with honourable mentions from throughout season 3.
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:42 Upcoming Episodes
01:19 Sponsors
05:55 Spotify Wrapped Insights
12:36 Top 10 Episodes of 2024
13:02 Number 10
13:57 Number 9
14:55 Number 8
16:59 Number 7
18:27 Number 6
19:53 Number 5
20:56 Number 4
23:43 Number 3
25:27 Number 2
27:49 Honourable Mentions
38:47 Number 1
42:09 Conclusion and thanks

Storytelling will improve your marketing with Will Slater
Join Jack Chambers-Ward as he discusses storytelling, copywriting, and content strategy with Will Slater, the creative content specialist at 43 Clicks North.
Will uses his experience as a writer and photographer to explain how even bad ideas lead to great ones, the importance of curiosity, and the intricacies of creating content that resonates emotionally with your audience.
Jack & Will explore how storytelling principles from novels, comics, and even music can enhance your marketing efforts. Plus, learn valuable tips for structuring your content, engaging specific audiences, and mastering the art of concise and impactful writing. This episode is packed with insights to help you create better content in 2024 and beyond.
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- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cleanslatewill
- Website: https://43clicksnorth.co.uk/
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cleanslatewill/
- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carparkshull/
Chapters
00:00 Intro trailer
00:57 Introduction to Search with Candour
02:01 Sponsorship Acknowledgements
06:34 Welcome Will Slater
08:40 The Power of Storytelling in Copywriting
09:50 Creating Emotional Connections
11:25 The Role of Flaws in Storytelling
14:51 The Art of Concise Copywriting
17:42 The Process of Generating Ideas
22:53 Understanding Your Audience
32:11 The Influence of Music on Storytelling
40:33 The Power of Brand Recognition
40:58 Engaging the Senses in Writing
41:32 Show, Don't Tell: Writing Techniques
44:40 The Art of Comic Book Storytelling
48:44 Structuring Content for Impact
57:27 The Hero's Journey in Modern Writing
01:00:46 Concise Storytelling: Less is More
01:04:29 Understanding Your Audience
01:13:12 The Importance of Curiosity in Marketing
01:18:49 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Unlocking AI Overviews with Tomek Rudzki
In this week's episode of Search with Candour, Jack Chambers-Ward is joined by Tomek Rudzki from ZipTie.dev to discuss AI overviews and their impact on SEO. Tomek shares insights on how AI overviews have risen in recent months, how AI overviews incorporate sources as well as the differences between traditional search results and AI overviews. Jack and Tomek also discuss Googleâs approach to user-generated content and ensuring high-quality search outcomes, especially for YMYL queries. Tomek also shares strategies for optimising content for AI overviews. 00:00 Trailer 00:55 Introduction 02:25 Sponsors 06:49 Welcome Tomek Rudzki 08:18 The Evolution of Ziptie.dev 10:15 The Rise of AI Overviews 16:36 Tracking AI Overviews 25:41 Comparing AI Overviews and Featured Snippets 33:55 Addressing Low-Quality Search Results 34:28 Trust and Authority in Online Content 36:23 Google's Approach to User-Generated Content 37:02 Manipulation and Spam in Search Results 38:56 Google's AI and Ranking Systems 43:16 Challenges with AI Overviews 58:48 Optimising for AI Overviews 01:07:13 Conclusion Resources 1. https://dashboard.ziptie.dev/aio-monitor 2. https://ziptie.dev/blog/how-ai-overviews-will-affect-ymyl-queries/ 3. https://thecollegeinvestor.com/47758/google-ai-misleads-in-43-of-finance-related-searches/ 4. https://ziptie.dev/blog/ziptie-vs-semrush-17x-more-ai-overviews/ Sponsors: 1. Experience the evolution of SE Ranking: https://seranking.com/?sou1=influencers&gr1=podcast&tg1=search_with_candour&kw1=com_first_ad&utm_source=influencers&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=com_first_ad_search_with_candour 2. Try Optmyzr - Made by PPC people, for PPC people https://www.optmyzr.com/?utm_source=sponsorship&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=candour Links to follow Tomek: 1. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomekrudzki/ 2. Ziptie: https://ziptie.dev/ 3. Tomekâs website: https://tomekseo.com/ 4. Onely: https://www.onely.com/ 5. Google Search Console Mastery Course: https://gscmastery.com/

Improve your content by fixing your content hierarchy - Amanda King
Join host Jack Chambers Ward and special guest Amanda King as they delve into the intricacies of content hierarchy and content consolidation in this insightful episode of Search With Candour. Amanda and Jack finally meet to discuss the importance of getting content structure right, common mistakes to avoid, and the nuances of SEO best practices in 2024 and beyond.
This episode is packed with expert advice, real-life examples, and tips for performing effective content audits. Sponsors
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- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandaecking/
- Website: https://floq.co/
- Engage: On Enterprise SEO: https://floq.co/resources/podcast/
- Amanda on The SEO Mindset Podcast: https://theseomindset.co.uk/episode/picking-battles-in-the-workplace-amanda-king
- Amanda's articles for SEL: https://searchengineland.com/author/amanda-king
- Profanity-based stationery and apparel: https://fourletterfancies.com
Chapters
00:00 Introduction 01:28 Sponsors 05:52 Amanda King's Background and SEO Experience 08:22 Content Hierarchy 11:32 SEO Strategies and Best Practices 17:46 Content Authenticity and User Experience 26:49 Content Consolidation 35:34 The Importance of Content Consumption 35:54 Balancing Content Creation and Consolidation 36:23 Fragmentation in Media Spaces 37:07 Google's Role in Content Structuring 38:02 Evolving Best Practices in Content Creation 39:37 Building Knowledge Hubs and Linking Strategies 40:18 The Necessity of Content Audits 40:53 Challenges in Content Consolidation 41:38 The Impact of AI on Content Management 45:15 Client Communication and Content Strategy 46:32 International Content Management 48:45 Annual Reviews and Technical Audits 50:26 Addressing Cannibalisation Issues 56:00 The Future of Content Structures 59:04 Business and Market-Led Content 01:02:48 Conclusion

Google core update and site reputation abuse fallout
In this bonus episode Search With Candour, Jack is joined by Steve Paine, the English-language marketing manager at SISTRIX to discuss breaking news on site reputation abuse and recent data insights.
Steve & Jack explore the November core update from Google and its impact on website rankings with examples of affected websites such as Reddit, Forbes, The Guardian and more.
Steve and Jack also explore manual versus algorithmic enforcement of Google's policies and share their findings on recent shifts in SERPs and site visibility.
Follow Steve Paine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevechippy/
Follow SISTRIX: https://www.sistrix.com/blog/google-core-update-november-2024/
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Follow Glenn Gabe: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glenngabe/
Follow Barry Schwartz: https://www.seroundtable.com/
Chapters
- 00:00 Introduction and Welcome
- 00:44 Site Reputation Abuse
- 01:42 November Core Update Insights
- 04:01 Impact on Major Websites
- 08:32 Manual Actions and Algorithmic Changes
- 11:47 Future of Content Creation
- 13:34 Conclusion and Sign Off

Unlocking Web Data Insights with Marco Giordano
Jack Chambers Ward sits down with web data analyst Marco Giordano to discuss how to get the most out of your web data.
Together, they delve into the intricacies of web analytics, covering topics such as incorporating crawl data, understanding GA4, leveraging BigQuery, and effectively communicating data insights to clients.
Jack and Marco also discuss the importance of combining technical SEO expertise with business acumen and provide valuable tips for anyone looking to maximise the impact of their web data.
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- SE Ranking - Track AI Overviews for your clients using SE Ranking
Links to follow Marco:
Links to resources/articles:
- â Free Google Cloud BigQuery trainingâ Analytics for SEO course
- â Analytics for SEO ebook
- The Gray Dot keyword matrix template
Chapters
00:00 Highlight reel
00:36 Welcome to Search with Candour
00:56 Introducing Marco Giordano
01:55 Sponsors
04:49 Marco Giordano's Insights on Web Data
06:12 Common Mistakes in Web Data Management
10:22 Balancing Hard and Soft Skills in SEO
19:00 Importance of Storing and Analysing Web Data
29:46 Combining Data Sources for Better Insights
37:17 Global Marketing Differences
39:26 The Role of Crawl Data and Log Files
42:05 Integrating Technical and Content Strategies
49:16 The Importance of Hybrid Skills in SEO
52:49 Evolving Job Titles and Industry Roles
54:27 Combining SEO with Other Channels
01:03:15 The Future of SEO and Analytics
01:09:17 Conclusion and Future Episodes

Critical Thinking Skills for SEO with Noah Learner
Jack Chambers-Ward is joined by SEO veteran Noah Lerner for an in-depth discussion on the importance of critical thinking in SEO. Noah and Jack champion the structured, evidence-based approach to decision-making as well as discussing the challenges and pitfalls of problem-solving, and the essential skills needed to excel in SEO. Noah also brings real examples from over 20 years of experience, such as the transition from UA to GA4 at Sterling Sky, building data pipelines and even how to communicate important data to clients.
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Chapters
- 00:00 Trailer introduction
- 00:58 Introduction
- 02:18 Sponsors: SE Ranking & Optmyzr
- 06:42 Welcome Noah Learner
- 09:44 Defining Critical Thinking Skills
- 11:42 Challenges in Problem Solving
- 15:32 Importance of Structured Problem Definition
- 23:31 Data-Driven Decision Making
- 40:52 Aligning SEO Metrics with Business Goals
- 45:29 The Importance of Call Tracking
- 46:50 Understanding Attribution and Data Constraints
- 50:01 Prioritizing Tasks for Maximum Impact
- 51:47 Efficiency Through Automation
- 54:52 The Role of AI in Problem Solving
- 01:05:09 Critical Thinking in SEO
- 01:11:38 Building a Supportive SEO Community
- 01:15:17 Conclusion and Future Episodes

SEO News: AI-organised search results and personalised Google Shopping feeds
Join hosts Jack Chambers-Ward and Mark Williams-Cook as they tackle the latest SEO news and industry trends.
In this episode, we'll cover the growing influence of AI in search, Google introducing AI-organised search results, personalised Google Shopping feeds, and the pitfalls of AI Overviews for finance queries and restaurant reviews.
We also explore how Redditors are manipulating search results and whether we can trust online reviews anymore.
Don't miss it!
Resources
- Googleâs AI-Organised search results
- Google Shoppingâs personalised feed
- The Vergeâs article on personalised Google Shopping feed
- Redditors disrupt AI Overviews with fake restaurant reviews
Sponsors
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
00:10 Conference Season and Travel
01:40 Sponsor: SE Ranking
03:12 Sponsor: Optmyzr
06:01 AI in Search 2024
06:21 AI Organized Search Results
14:03 Personalized Shopping Feeds
26:55 Financial Advice Inaccuracies
28:52 Financial Advice Regulations in the UK
29:08 US State Laws vs Federal Laws
30:12 AI Overviews and Legal Nuances
31:00 Disclaimers and User Trust
33:39 Accuracy of AI-Generated Content
39:56 Reddit's Influence on Search Results
46:12 User-Generated Content: Pros and Cons
49:25 Conclusion and Upcoming Content

Halloween SEO tips and Google Trends - Myriam Jessier & StĂŠphanie Walter
Join hosts Jack Chambers-Ward and Search With Candour Scream Queens, Myriam Jessier, and StĂŠphanie Walter, in this Halloween-themed episode packed with spooky surprises and valuable marketing insights.
From e-commerce strategies and UX design to SEO tips and digital PR trends, you'll discover the scariest messages from your boss and the history of Halloween itself.
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Chapters
- 00:00 Spooky Introduction and Halloween Special đ
- 01:28 Sponsor - SE Ranking Overview
- 03:00 Sponsor - Optmyzr: The Ultimate PPC Management Tool
- 05:51 đť Halloween Tips and Spooky Conversations đť
- 08:54 đ The History and Evolution of Halloween đ
- 15:59 đ§ââď¸ Halloween Costumes and Cognitive Biases đ§ââď¸
- 38:23 Halloween Trends Analysis
- 39:00 Comparing Halloween Popularity Over the Years
- 40:58 Marketing Strategies and Cognitive Biases
- 44:53 Corporate Messages That Will Chill Your Spine
- 56:53 SEO and UX: The Future of E-commerce
- 01:03:36 Closing Thoughts
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Local SEO strategies you should be doing with Darren Shaw
Join host Jack Chambers-Ward and special guest Darren Shaw, founder of Whitespark, as they dive into the latest in local SEO and Google Business Profile optimisation.
Discover key updates expected in 2025, innovative methods to enhance rankings, the impact of custom service entries, strategic use of Google Posts, and the importance of robust Q&A sections.
From optimising menu items for restaurants to leveraging photos and videos effectively, this episode is packed with expert insights and practical tips essential for SEO professionals and business owners.
Links to follow Darren
- Darren on LinkedIn: â https://www.linkedin.com/in/darrenshawwhitespark/â
- Whitespark on LinkedIn: â https://www.linkedin.com/company/whitespark/â
- Threads: â https://www.threads.net/@darrenshawseoâ
- Website: â https://whitespark.ca/â
- YouTube: â https://www.youtube.com/@WhitesparkCaâ
- Tiktok: â https://www.tiktok.com/@darrenshawseoâ
Resources
- Local SEO ranking factors 2023 edition - â https://whitespark.ca/local-search-ranking-factorsâ
- â Do Services in Google Business Profiles Impact Ranking? - Sterling Sky Incâ
- â Are Opening Hours a Local Ranking Factor? - BrightLocalâ
- â Report: Menu items, busier businesses may be Google local ranking signalsâ
- Google Vision AI: â https://cloud.google.com/visionâ
- â Website Title Tags and GMB Snippetsâ
- EnterâŚthe stuff zone: â https://www.linkedin.com/posts/darrenshawwhitespark_perfect-title-tags-for-local-seo-activity-7065345429235781632-xGo1/â
Chapters
- 00:00 Introduction
- 02:20 Sponsorship Shoutout: SE Ranking
- 03:54 Sponsorship Shoutout: Also Asked
- 05:19 Darren Shaw's Journey in SEO
- 06:31 Local Search Ranking Factors Update
- 09:43 Optimising Google Business Profile Services
- 18:23 Impact of Business Hours on Rankings
- 23:47 Menu Items and Local SEO
- 29:03 Multilingual Business Names for Local SEO
- 31:34 Mastering Google Posts: Common Mistakes and Best Practices
- 37:19 The Power of Videos and Photos in Google Business Profiles
- 44:53 Optimising Your Google Business Profile Q&A
- 50:18 The Controversy of Keyword Stuffing in Title Tags
- 57:07 Outro

Strategic Career Planning - Live Podcast
Join Jack Chambers-Ward from Search With Candour and Sarah and Tazmin from The SEO Mindset podcast in this special live episode from Brighton as they tackle career planning without the overwhelm.
Recorded in front of a packed audience at in The Globe Room at Projects The Lanes, this episode discusses personal experiences in career development, strategies like ikigai and ISA, and the importance of setting achievable goals.
Sponsors
Chapters
- 00:00:00 Introduction
- 00:01:34 Sponsors: SE Ranking & AlsoAsked
- 00:04:28 Live Podcast Begins
- 00:05:08 Career Planning Discussion
- 00:05:27 Introducing the SEO Mindset Podcast
- 00:06:18 Introducing Search With Candour
- 00:07:21 Why This Live Podcast is Important
- 00:08:13 Finding Your Ikigai
- 00:09:59 Live Podcast Sponsors: SISTRIX & Majestic
- 00:13:40 Career Planning Experiences
- 00:20:05 Overcoming Career Planning Challenges
- 00:27:36 Strategies for Effective Career Planning
- 00:49:59 The Simple Joy of Cleaning Kitchens
- 00:50:44 Exploring the Nine Lives Exercise
- 00:51:34 Taking Action Towards Your Dreams
- 00:53:44 The ISA Strategy: Intention, Strategy, Action
- 00:58:00 Collecting Data for Career Success
- 01:04:38 Building a Personal Brand and Networking
- 01:09:15 Audience Q&A
- 01:11:34 Dealing with Comparisons and Self-Perception
- 01:20:29 The Importance of Certifications and Continuous Learning
- 01:33:40 Outro

Negativity bias with Giulia Panozzo
Giulia Panozzo joins Search With Candour to discuss the neuroscience behind negativity bias. Giulia combines her knowledge of neuroscience and marketing to bring some fascinating neuromarketing insights to the podcast!
Why do negative headlines get more clicks than positive ones?
How does negativity bias affect the way we search?
Why does one piece of negative feedback standout against positive feedback?
Resources and studies:
- Neuroscience of Search: What does brain science tell us about the user? đ§
- Negativity drives online news consumption | Nature Human Behaviour
- Consuming Negative News Can Make You Less Effective at Work
- How to leverage anthropomorphism for chatbot service interfaces: The interplay of communication style and personification - ScienceDirect
- Martin E.P. Seligman | Positive Psychology Center
- Using Neuroplasticity for Personal Growth with Giulia Panozzo - The SEO Mindset Podcast
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Chapters
- 00:00 Users are more aware of marketing tactics
- 00:31 Welcome to Search with Candour
- 00:42 Introducing Giulia Panozzo and Neuromarketing
- 01:50 Sponsors
- 04:53 Giulia Panozzo's Background and Achievements
- 05:53 What is Negativity Bias?
- 10:55 The Neuroscience Behind Negativity Bias
- 17:06 Marketing's Impact on User Behaviour
- 25:27 User Scepticism and Authenticity in Reviews
- 36:08 Confirmation Bias and Negativity Bias
- 37:26 Questioning Beliefs and Seeking Honest Reviews
- 38:43 Critical Thinking and Bias in Academia
- 41:26 Negativity Bias in Career and Workplace
- 45:25 Impact of Negative Feedback and Learned Helplessness
- 48:58 Two-Way Feedback and Work Culture
- 57:15 Good Daily Habits for Fighting Negativity Bias
- 59:29 Reframing Failures and Neuroplasticity
- 01:03:33 Future of Search and Marketing
- 01:05:00 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Stop doing SEO translation, start doing SEO localization with Maria Scheibengraf
Maria Scheibengraf joins Jack Chambers-Ward to explain why localization is so important for your international SEO strategy.
Direct translation just doesnât work for SEO. You need to take culture and nuance into account when it comes to your international SEO strategies.
Maria explains the common problems that many agencies and SEOs face with multilingual SEO and how to get SEO localization right. Follow Maria Scheibengraf
Resources
- Maria's companion blog post
- Book recommendation: The Culture Map by Erin Meyer
- The Nike 'Am I a Bad Person? ad
Sponsors
- Experience the evolution of SE Ranking
- Start your 14-day free trial of Optmyzr
- Book your personalised Optmyzr demo
Chapters
- 00:00 Start
- 00:00:34 Intro
- 00:01:37 Sponsor: SE Ranking
- 00:03:45 Sponsor: Optmyzr
- 00:06:39 Welcome to the show Maria Scheibengraf
- 00:08:06 Why is SEO localisation so important?
- 00:11:00 The flawed workflow of SEO translation
- 00:15:10 Direct translation doesnât work
- 00:16:21 Localisation is so much more than language
- 00:20:33 Book recommendation: The Culture Map by Erin Meyer
- 00:20:53 High context vs low context communication
- 00:22:06 British humour vs American humor
- 00:24:00 The importance of technical SEO in localisation
- 00:27:25 Understand what devices your audience are using
- 00:30:00 Common problems with SEO localisation
- 00:36:35 Linguists should learn SEO skills
- 00:40:30 When should SEO localisation be involved in the process?
- 00:41:09 The ideal international SEO workflow
- 00:44:35 How NOT to convince Germans to buy your products
- 00:47:45 How to budget for SEO localisation
- 00:49:20 Reuse resources to save time and money
- 00:51:45 Reframe your unique selling points to different cultures
- 00:54:05 Understanding cultural-coding
- 00:55:32 Be mindful of your messaging in different cultures
- 00:57:10 Marketing is still about evoking emotions in your audience
- 00:58:00 Even emotions are culturally coded
- 00:58:37 âAm I a bad person?â Nike ad
- 01:00:34 Individualistic vs collectivist cultures
- 01:02:58 Search behaviour is becoming more conversational in English
- 01:05:05 AI is not trained on minority languages
- 01:06:58 Adapt your language to cultural standards
- 01:08:12 Even small changes in language can make a big difference
- 01:09:12 Donât say âpleaseâ in your Spanish content!
- 01:10:51 How language changes through generations
- 01:11:35 âDe nadaâ means âitâs nothingâ not âyouâre welcomeâ
- 01:13:49 Tiny errors can really change your messaging
- 01:14:08 How to build trust with your audience
- 01:15:40 Where to follow Maria Scheibengraf
- 01:16:36 Outro

How to use AI for SEO with Eric Hoover
Eric Hoover joins the Search With Candour podcast this week to discuss how to use AI for SEO. Yes, weâre finally talking about AI tools in detail and how to integrate AI into your SEO workflow.
Eric has recommendations for using AI and LLMs for keyword research, competitor analysis, content creation, ecommerce optimisation and if SearchGPT can ever dethrone Google as the primary search engine.
Sponsors
Links to follow Eric:
Links to resources/articles
- Unmasking AI by Dr Joy Buolamwini
- AI in SEO, Treat it like a New Team Member
- Human-AI Collaboration
- FeedGen AI
- Ranch style SEO vs skyscraper style content
- Most people canât identify AI-generated content
Chapters
- 00:00:00 How to do SEO in an AI world
- 00:00:28 Intro
- 00:01:37 Sponsor: SE Ranking
- 00:03:45 Live brightonSEO podcast 2 Oct 2024
- 00:05:44 Welcome to the show Eric Hoover
- 00:06:01 Letâs talk about cats (briefly)
- 00:08:16 SEO in an AI world
- 00:10:49 Book recommendation: Unmasking AI by Dr Joy Buolawmini
- 00:12:25 Working with AI as an assistant
- 00:14:37 You should learn to use AI in your workflow
- 00:15:20 How to use AI in keyword research
- 00:18:10 How to use AI in competitor analysis
- 00:19:35 Use AI to automate tasks and save your brain bandwidth
- 00:23:10 How to use AI for ecommerce optimisation
- 00:29:34 How to use AI to create content briefs
- 00:32:06 How to use AI to brainstorm new ideas
- 00:36:30 The common pitfalls of AI content
- 00:39:00 Can readers recognise AI-generated content?
- 00:41:36 How AI is integrated into the rest of our lives
- 00:44:50 Ranch-style SEO strategy works for AI-powered search
- 00:52:20 Content strategy for AI Overviews
- 00:54:20 Waiting for SearchGPT
- 00:56:50 Will there be a Google killer?
- 00:59:25 How search behaviour is shifting away from Google
- 01:02:50 Where to follow Eric Hoover
- 01:03:50 Outro and thanks

Is SearchGPT better than Google? with Mark Williams-Cook
Jack Chambers-Ward and Mark Williams-Cook reunite in the Candour studio to discuss the early reactions to SearchGPT, the helpful content update might not be what you think and how robots.txt can interact with redirects to cause indexing confusion.
Links and resources
- SE Ranking SearchGPT research
- Combined SearchGPT analysis on SEJ
- The helpful content update isn't what you think it is
- When robots.txt gets stuck in the middle of your redirects
Sponsors
- Start your 14-day free trial of Optmyzr
- Book your personalised Optmyzr demo
- Get your free ticket for the live podcast in Brighton
Chapters
- 00:00:00 - Intro
- 00:01:12 - Sponsor: Optmyzr
- 00:04:02 - Live podcast in Brighton on 2 Oct 2024
- 00:06:01 - Early reactions to SearchGPT
- 00:26:26 - The helpful content update was not what you think
- 00:37:03 - What happens when redirect URLs are blocked by robots.txt?
- 00:43:00 - SEO is heading towards a big change
- 00:45:17 - Outro

The Impact of Social Media on SEO with Ashley Liddell
Ashley Liddell joins Jack on this week's Search With Candour to discuss how social media is infiltrating SEO and Google.
With the recent increase in UGC on the SERPs, aligning your social media and search strategies has never been more important.
Sponsors
- SE Ranking is the intuitive SEO platform trusted by over a million SEO professionals - start your free trial today.â
- Free live podcast in Brighton on 2 October 2024.
Links to follow Ashley
- Follow Ashley on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-liddell-seo/
- Deviation - https://www.wearedeviation.co.uk/
Links to resources/articles:
- Deviation article about social SEO: https://www.wearedeviation.co.uk/insights/an-introduction-to-social-seo
- Relevant previous episode with Ray Saddiq - https://youtu.be/nD97J0on2cI?si=o5SNytZqAYYeS2Cu
- TikTok as a search engine with Annie-Mai Hodge: https://withcandour.co.uk/blog/tiktok-as-a-search-engine-with-annie-mai-hodge
Chapters
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:32 Sponsored by SE Ranking
00:03:11 Live podcast on 2nd October 2024
00:05:10 Welcome Ashley Liddell
00:06:07 The crossover of social media and search
00:09:01 How the relationship between SEO and social media has changed in the last year
00:12:34 The democratisation of content creation
00:14:55 People want authenticity in content
00:17:10 Google Perspectives replaced by Google Forums
00:21:30 How search behaviour has changed for Gen Z
00:23:55 Create content
00:27:03 The growth of long-form and short-form content
00:31:45 How Tiktok leads the short-form video industry
00:33:11 How old marketing tactics become relevant again on new platforms
00:33:50 Tiktok Shop tips
00:34:40 The customer journey for Tiktok content
00:36:08 Is Tiktok shop the future of ecommerce?
00:38:02 Selling products on Tiktok Live is the QVC of 2024
00:41:12 Brands need to embrace long-term commitment to authentic content
00:42:30 What will happen when Boohoo, Primark and Shein start using Tiktok shop?
00:46:35 Will big brands help to âlegitimatiseâ Tiktok shop?
00:51:03 The two way relationship between organic search and social media
00:54:20 Integrating social media into keyword research (h/t tp Ray Saddiq)
00:55:24 Improving user experience by stealing ideas from social media
00:56:42 Search everywhere strategies
01:02:10 How social media can help with link building
01:06:43 Get your digital teams to work together or get left behind
01:08:30 Where to follow Ashley Lidell and Deviation
01:09:43 Thanks and outro

Video SEO best practice and the latest SEO news
Jack Chambers-Ward discusses the latest SEO news you need to know about. This includes Google's controversial overhaul of their SEO video documentation, how to create your own AI expert with Gemini and is Android changing its default search engine?
Chapters
- 00:00:00 Intro
- 00:02:06 Win one yearâs subscription to AlsoAsked Pro
- 00:04:22 Live podcast - 2 October 2024 in Brighton
- 00:06:20 SEO news you need to know
- 00:07:40 Google overhauls video SEO documentation
- 00:17:26 Google may now use your OG title
- 00:22:35 Geminiâs Gems
- 00:29:15 Android default search engine selector via Natalia Witczyk
- 00:34:35 You can include/exclude dimensions in line charts in GA4 via Kyle Rushton McGregor
- 00:36:34 Links won't save you from the HCU via Glenn Gabe
- 00:39:44 Outro and thanks
Get your tickets for the live podcast in Brighton: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/career-planning-without-overwhelming-yourself-live-podcast-free-pizza-tickets-989270774517
Get a free one year subscription to AlsoAsked Pro: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/markseo_you-can-win-a-free-year-of-alsoasked-pro-activity-7235244350148890624-XC1c
Links and resources:
- Google overhauls SEO video documentation: https://www.seroundtable.com/google-overhauls-video-seo-documentation-37966.html
- Google may now us your OG title: https://searchengineland.com/google-search-may-now-use-og-title-for-title-links-446023
- Gemini's new Gems https://blog.google/products/gemini/google-gemini-update-august-2024/
- Android default search engine selector: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7234503443929829376/
- You can include/exclude dimensions in line charts in GA4: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/activity-7234851311261814784-UHFo
- Links won't save you from the HCU: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/glenngabe_google-seo-activity-7235271222450614272-w6LI

Career planning and live podcast announcement
Sarah McDowell and Tazmin Suleman, host of The SEO Mindset podcast, return to Search With Candour to discuss career planning and the announcement of our upcoming live podcast event on 2nd October 2024.
Get your tickets for the live podcast
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/989270774517?aff=oddtdtcreator
Sponsors:
- â SE Ranking is the intuitive SEO platform trusted by over a million SEO professionals - start your free trial today.
- Keep up to date with the important SEO news with Core Updates
Chapters
00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:32 - Sponsor: SE Ranking
00:03:16 - How is the weather in Worcester, Milton Keynes and Norwich?
00:04:52 - Live podcast announcement
00:08:40 - What is the live podcast event?
00:12:29 - Whatâs special about the live podcast?
00:15:35 - Providing solutions to topics
00:19:36 - Sponsor: Core Updates
00:20:47 - Career planning without overwhelming yourself
00:22:20 - Sarah McDowell: Butterfly Lady
00:23:40 - Saying yes to things
00:26:13 - Learning to set goals and plan your career
00:28:50 - Give yourself the same advice you would give others
00:30:21 - How to deal with overwhelm
00:32:18 - Planning ahead helps can help reduce stress in the future
00:34:12 - You can get overwhelmed if you donât plan
00:37:47 - Join us on Wednesday 2nd October 2024
00:40:09 - The event will be live streamed and available on Youtube
00:42:52 - Outro
Follow The SEO Mindset Podcast:

Judge rules that Google is a monopoly
Mark & Jack are back in the studio to discuss the latest SEO news including Google's recent legal loss, recommendations coming to Google Search Console and the recent SERP volatility.
Sponsors:
- Find the questions people also ask about your content with AlsoAsked - â https://alsoasked.com/?utm=swcpodcastâ
- Get your free tickets for HIVE MCR on 29 August 2024 - â https://hive-mcr.co.uk/?utm=swcpodcastâ
Links & resources:
- Google is declared a monopoly by a federal judge https://www.likemind.media/judges-anti-trust-ruling-impact-googles-monopoly/
- Marie Haynes breakdown of the Google documents https://x.com/Marie_Haynes/status/1820557751145074977
- All 286 pages of the Google trial document https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25032745-045110819896
- The Verge's coverage of the Google antitrust trial https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/11/24216760/google-trial-monopoly-remedies-rivals
- Google Search Console recommendations https://developers.google.com/search/blog/2024/08/search-console-recommendations
- A lot of SERP volatility suggests a Google update is coming soon https://www.seroundtable.com/google-search-ranking-volatility-weekend-37878.html
Chapters
- 00:00:00 - Intro
- 00:00:31 - Sponsor: AlsoAsked
- 00:02:17 - Sponsor: HIVE MCR
- 00:04:01 - Google is declared a monopoly by a federal judge
- 00:25:34 - Google Search Console recommendations
- 00:33:01 - High SERP volatility could mean a Google Core Update is coming soon

Build successful marketing events and communities with SEO Jo Blogs
Jo Juliana Turnbull AKA SEO Jo Blogs joins Jack to discuss the importance of events and community in the SEO industry.
This episode includes advice for creating and growing your event as well as recommendations for communities and events for you to join.
Sponsors:
- SE Ranking is the intuitive SEO platform trusted by over a million SEO professionals - start your free trial today.
- Understand your users with live âPeople Also Askedâ data and intent clustering by Google.
Links to follow Jo:
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/j-turnbull
- X/Twitter: https://x.com/SEOJoBlogs
- Search London: https://searchldn.com/
- Search Barcelona: https://searchldn.com/barcelona/
Links to resources/articles:
- Great article by Helen Pollitt - https://www.searchenginejournal.com/ask-an-seo-what-are-the-best-resources-to-learn-seo-and-who-are-the-best-people-to-follow-online-for-good-advice/520158/
- https://www.womenintechseo.com/
- https://webcertain.com/international-search-summit/barcelona/
- https://www.goodsignals.com/seo-office-hours/
- https://searchnstuff.co.uk/
Chapters
00:00:00 - Intro
00:01:18 - Sponsor: SE Ranking
00:02:26 - Sponsor: AlsoAsked
00:04:43 - Welcome SEO Jo Blogs
00:05:39 - SearchLondon
00:06:43 - Why are events so important in the SEO industry?
00:09:06 - The importance of being part of the SEO community
00:10:20 - There are so many incredible events around the world
00:10:53 - How and why Jo started running SearchLondon
00:12:41 - How to make the most of attending an event
00:13:59 - Events help us feel less alone
00:15:10 - The benefits of smaller events
00:18:17 - How to grow your event
00:20:50 - Have a focus for your event
00:22:05 - Booking and visiting the venue
00:23:24 - Prove that your city is worth visiting
00:24:55 - The events happening in Barcelona
00:26:50 - Finding your gap in the market
00:28:54 - How to stand out from other events
00:32:33 - SEO Office Hours
00:35:00 - Online events are important for people who canât attend in-person events
00:36:13 - Search Africon
00:39:24 - How to turn your events into a community
00:43:40 - Pay it forward to other events and creators
00:48:00 - How to build a returning audience for your events
00:55:05 - How to follow SEO Jo Blogs and Search London
00:56:59 - Outro

JavaScript SEO in 2024 with Patrick Hathaway
Patrick Hathaway makes his triumphant return to the show to discuss the Sitebulb JavaScript SEO Report.
This episode delves into the internet's growing reliance on Javascript, the importance of understanding Google's indexing & rendering processes and the growth of technical skills gaps in the SEO industry.
Sitebulb JavaScript SEO Report https://sitebulb.com/javascript-seo/report/
Follow Patrick & Sitebulb:
- Patrick on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickhathaway/
- Sitebulb on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sitebulb/
- Patrick on Twitter: https://x.com/HathawayP
- Sitebulb on Twitter: https://x.com/sitebulb
- Website: https://sitebulb.com/
Sponsors
- â â â â This week's episode is sponsored by AlsoAsked - the best way to access People Also Ask data at scale.â â â â
- Keep up with the latest SEO news and tips by subscribing to CoreUpdates.
Chapters:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:40 - Sponsor: AlsoAsked
00:04:25 - Sponsor: Core Updates
00:05:43 - Welcome back, Patrick Hathaway
00:07:17 - What was the inspiration for this JavaScript SEO study?
00:10:07 - A two part study combining the survey & Sitebulb data
00:11:12 - The JavaScript skills gap in SEO
00:12:48 - The evolution of JavaScript and the internet
00:14:55 - Why JavaScript is popular for new developers
00:16:32 - Googleâs JavaScript documentation
00:18:04 - The anti-JavaScript movement in SEO
00:20:03 - The opacity of fixing JavaScript problems
00:20:30 - Google has improved their JavaScript rendering
00:22:00 - How important is it to understand JavaScript for SEOs?
00:23:45 - Why SEOs should learn how to use DevTools
00:27:05 - Communicating with developers
00:28:32 - Donât be afraid to ask developers questions
00:30:35 - Be honest if you donât know
00:31:15 - A third of SEOs donât feel comfortable investigating JavaScript issues
00:33:07 - How to communicate the value of technical SEO fixes
00:36:28 - How to reduce the JavaScript SEO skills gap
00:39:57 - We should communicate more interdisciplinarily
00:42:40 - Understand when key elements are being changed by JavaScript
00:46:37 - Sitebulbâs hints and resources are great
00:48:43 - A JavaScript horror story with Squarespace
00:50:00 - More people are using Sitebulbâs Chrome crawler than ever before
00:51:30 - The problem with plugins
00:53:10 - Where to follow Patrick & Sitebulb
00:55:16 - Outro
00:57:03 - Next weekâs guest is SEOJoBlogs AKA Jo Juliana Turnbull!

Digital PR is the future of link building with Vince Nero
Vince Nero (Director of Content Marketing at Buzzstream) joins Jack on this weekâs episode to discuss why digital PR is the future of link building.
Sponsors:
â â SEO Testing - Begin your exclusive extended free trial todayâ â
â â Search 'n' Stuff - Use code CANDOUR20 for 20% off your ticketsâ
Follow Vince & Buzzstream
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Buzzstream podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWuoOU-8n6fOpQVCszF1JFWEAyTtXhUpb
Time stamps
00:00:04 - Intro
00:00:56 - Sponsor: SEO Testing
00:03:47 - Sponsor: Search ânâ Stuff
00:06:16 - Welcome to the show, Vince Nero
00:08:15 - The shift towards digital PR in link building
00:11:47 - The benefits of digital PR
00:12:50 - How digital PR relates to AI Overviews
00:13:33 - What we can learn from the Google API leak
00:16:45 - Why digital PR is called âearned mediaâ
00:20:38 - Using Ahrefs to find your competitorsâ best links
00:22:54 - The price of a quality links in 2024
00:25:22 - The links that money canât buy (in theory)
00:26:20 - Journalists are underpaid and overworked
00:28:30 - How to stand out against AI-generated content
00:31:10 - Align your content to your audience
00:31:50 - Google is looking for fresh, new content
00:35:45 - Freshness can help get your content featured in AI Overviews
00:36:35 - Vinceâs blueprint for success (patent pending)
00:39:35 - Make the journalists job as easy as possible
00:41:29 - Is your pitch enough to write an article?
00:44:40 - The click-through rate of big publications vs niche publications
00:45:35 - How to build positive relationships with publications
00:46:34 - The crossover of traditional PR and digital PR
00:48:30 - Proving yourself as an expert
00:50:00 - Thereâs a publication or forum or subreddit for every niche
00:51:40 - Focus on the metrics that matter
00:51:51 - Find your tribe (Seth Godinâs advice)
00:54:48 - Find the balance between thinking outside the box and find your audience
00:58:12 - Digital PR for SEO vs brand growth
01:01:02 - Are unlinked mentions still valuable?
01:04:30 - Your site design can affect if people link to you!
01:06:26 - The big sites are overtaken by bad layouts and ads
01:08:15 - Where to follow Vince and Buzzstream
01:09:25 - Outro - Iâve hosted more episodes than Mark!
01:10:41 - Next week guest announcement

Goodbye to continuous scroll and Universal Analytics with Mark Williams-Cook
Sponsors:
- SEO Testing - Begin your exclusive extended free trial today
- Search 'n' Stuff - Use code CANDOUR20 for 20% off your tickets
Mark and Jack reunite in the Candour studio to say goodbye to Universal Analytics and Google's continuous scroll, discuss why Bing's index is more important than you think and why AI Overviews are now showing for fewer than 7% of queries.
Time stamps:
- 00:00:11 - Intro
- 00:01:14 - Sponsor: SEO Testing
- 00:05:00 - Sponsor: Search ânâ Stuff
- 00:07:30 - In loving memoryâŚ
- 00:08:18 - RIP to Googleâs continuous scroll
- 00:14:09 - RIP to Universal Analytics
- 00:16:06 - Prompt injection leads to demotion on Bing
- 00:22:34 - The Bing index powers a lot of LLMs
- 00:34:02 - AI Overviews only show for 7% of queries
- 00:43:30 - Outro
Links and resources
- Previous episode about GA4 key events and attribution
- Previous episode about GA4 with Krista Seiden & Simo Ahava
- RIP Universal Analytics: https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/11583528?hl=en
- Prompt injection with Bing: https://www.seroundtable.com/prompt-injection-bing-webmaster-guidelines-37650.html
- Bing's index is more important than you think: https://x.com/jes_scholz/status/1812693442558087653
- AI Overviews only showing for 7% of queries: https://searchengineland.com/google-ai-overviews-visibility-new-low-444048

SEO education with Nikki Pilkington
Sponsor:
This weekâs episode is sponsored by Majestic. Go to â majestic.com/offers/swcâ to get exclusive free Lite access to Site Explorer for any one website that you control.
Nikki Pilkington joins Jack Chambers-Ward to discuss why SEO education is really important.
There needs to be less gatekeeping in SEO and more of us should share our knowledge with peers, clients and even web designers.
Follow Nikki
Time stamps
00:00:04 - Intro
00:01:05 - Majestic ad
00:06:12 - Interview with Nikki Pilkington
00:07:04 - Why is education important in SEO?
00:10:40 - Avoid using jargon, this wonât attract new clients
00:14:45 - Donât be afraid to share tips and advice on social media
00:16:46 - Nikkiâs experiences in the early days of SEO
00:18:35 - Donât gatekeep information
00:20:15 - Testing and experimenting is a great way to learn
00:21:45 - Educate web designers to add Google Search Console from day one
00:25:45 - SEOs can learn a lot from developers and designers too
00:27:25 - PPC and SEO teams should work together
00:31:36 - Recurring clients
00:33:23 - Educating clients about SEO
00:35:55 - Explain why SEO things matter, rather than just telling
00:37:00 - Use plain English not jargon
00:41:00 - SEO isnât a dark art!
00:43:53 - The Google API leak
00:51:27 - AI is useful but itâs not the be all and end all
00:52:35 - Vanity metics vs what actually matters
00:54:32 - The power of word of mouth
00:57:18 - Googleâs tagline - Donât be evil
00:58:45 - Who to learn SEO from and who to follow
01:01:05 - Even small details can lead to new discoveries
01:06:42 - Other SEOs to follow on Twitter
01:08:25 - Where to follow Nikki
01:09:22 - Outro

Networking for introverts and tips for networking with social anxiety with Josephine Rudolf
Josephine Rudolf is a Junior SEO Manager at Barfer's, will be graduating from the International University of Applied Sciences soon and is the newest member of the Women in Tech SEO team. She has been an SEO mentor and mentee, all before the age of 23.
Time stamps
- 00:00:04 - Intro
- 00:01:17 - AlsoAsked
- 00:03:03 - Wix Studio
- 00:04:48 - Interview with Josephine Rudolf
- 00:05:30 - Networking for introverts
- 00:06:57 - What networking is like early in your career
- 00:07:42 - Joining Women in Tech SEO
- 00:10:40 - What is an introvert?
- 00:13:26 - Common myths of introverts and extroverts
- 00:14:28 - What is social anxiety?
- 00:16:45 - How Josephine has dealt with social anxiety
- 00:19:34 - Tips and techniques to help reduce social anxiety
- 00:20:08 - Rituals and preparations
- 00:23:57 - Meeting up with friends before the event
- 00:26:58 - One-to-One meetings
- 00:28:01 - The Alter Ego Effect
- 00:32:43 - Having a physical item or drink is good to reduce social anxiety
- 00:34:33 - Self affirmations to reassure yourself
- 00:37:12 - Pacing yourself
- 00:39:15 - The peak-end theory
- 00:44:15 - The importance of aftercare
- 00:49:00 - Take notes - journaling, audio memos and photos
- 00:52:13 - The pressure of social media
- 00:55:10 - The positives of digital networking
- 01:00:56 - SEO Office Hours live chat
- 01:01:48 - How to start networking through social media
- 01:03:23 - The power of one-to-one networking
- 01:06:03 - Be authentic when youâre networking
- 01:09:53 - People will often remember the silly off-topic things about your conversations
- 01:11:22 - Cowboy cat hat
- 01:12:14 - Where to follow Josephine
- 01:13:43 - Outro
Follow Josephine on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephine-rudolf/
Josephine's Cowboy cat - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/josephine-rudolf_a-little-monday-motivation-for-everyone-activity-7213524119403835393-izqw
Sponsors:

How SEO tools work with Simon Lesser
Sponsors:
This week's podcast is sponsored by Wix Studio - the web platform built for agencies and enterprises.â â â
Show notes:
Simon Lesser, CEO and co-founder of Dragon Metrics joins the podcast this week to give us a sneak peek behind the scenes of how SEO tools work.
- What data from SEO tools actually means
- What customers want vs what customers need
- Why so many SEOs use tools
- The importance of listening to your audience
- What goes into making important decisions
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