Sharing the Heart of the Matter

Sharing the Heart of the Matter

By SharingHoTM

A podcast celebrating authors, storytellers, and creators. Vicki and Wynne interview best-selling authors to not only talk about books but also to find out how and why they became authors.

Join us for this fabulous podcast that is entertaining, hosts great guests, and provides inspiration for finding our own way to tell our stories.
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Episode 107: Writing and Adventure with Darlene Foster

Sharing the Heart of the MatterMar 14, 2025
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Episode 116: Finding Happy with Filmmaker and Philanthropist Peter Samuelson

Episode 116: Finding Happy with Filmmaker and Philanthropist Peter Samuelson

In this inspiring episode, Wynne Leon and Vicki Atkinson are talking with filmmaker, philanthropist and author, Peter Samuelson.

Peter produced films such as Return of Pink Panther, and Revenge of the Nerds. He’s worked with Steve McQueen, Peter Sellers, and started four philanthropies, including one with Steven Spielberg.

And now he’s written this incredible book that combines the amazing and entertaining episodes from all those adventures with reflective lessons and learning.

He tells us how he came to write this book, writing at 5am each morning to alternate between lessons learned on some days and anecdotes on others.

He tells us the story that sparked the first charity he founded, Starlight, granting wishes to sick kids and their families.

Peter teaches a course called Random Acts of Kindness and Pay It Forwards. He explains the crossover between underprivileged kids and acts of service and tells some heart-grabbing stories.

We talk about Peter’s delightful father, Sir Sydney Samuelson and his infectious ability to talk to everyone. Peter relates a wonderful story about how his dad made a great connection to benefit his First Star foundation and how the ripple effect of Sir Sydney’s life continues on.

Peter tells us how he fell in love with his now wife of 40 years and gives some really solid advice about how to meet like-minded others.

Vicki and I were transfixed by Peter’s incredible energy and enthusiasm. His application of the 2nd law of thermodynamics will move you into wanting to make a difference. His stories will leave you smiling and charmed.

Finding Happy is a great book that launches on Tuesday, June 10th. It’s such a fun read for all, but especially young adults, and a perfect gift idea for dads and grads.

Join us for this inspiring episode with the delightful Peter Samuelson. We know you'll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 116 show notes

Finding Happy on Amazon

Peter Samuelson | PR by the Book

From the Hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/

Jun 06, 202546:12
Episode 115: The Way of the Wave with Danny Miller

Episode 115: The Way of the Wave with Danny Miller

In episode 115, Vicki and Wynne engage with author Danny Miller, who shares insights from his book, 'The Way of the Wave.' The conversation explores themes of surrendering control, embracing creativity, navigating life's challenges, and the importance of self-care. Danny recounts his personal journey of transformation, emphasizing the significance of trusting the flow of life and the lessons learned through various experiences. The episode concludes with Danny reading his poignant poem, 'Life's Lantern.'

Here are some key takeaways from our discussion:

  • Danny Miller discusses his journey of surrendering control.
  • He emphasizes the importance of creativity and flow in life.
  • Self-care is essential for maintaining balance and well-being.
  • Danny shares personal anecdotes to illustrate his lessons.
  • The concept of 'wave obstructors' and 'wave enhancers' is introduced.
  • He highlights the significance of attentive listening in parenting.
  • Danny reflects on the importance of navigating life's lulls.
  • The conversation touches on the power of vulnerability in storytelling.
  • Danny's poem, 'Life's Lantern,' encapsulates his philosophy.
  • The episode encourages embracing life's unpredictability.

This is a fantastic episode with a whole-hearted author sharing valuable and vulnerable lessons. We know you'll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 115 show notes

Danny's website danielamiller.com 

Danny's book, "The Way of the Wave":  https://www.amazon.com/Way-Wave-Natures-Navigating-Currents/dp/0982893078).

Danny also narrated the audio book, available on Amazon, B&N, and Apple iTunes.

From the Hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/


May 23, 202529:38
Episode 114: The Kiss of the Night with Mark Wukas

Episode 114: The Kiss of the Night with Mark Wukas

In this fascinating episode, Vicki and Wynne talk with author, Mark Wukas. Mark has just released his debut novel, The Kiss of the Night.

It’s a book more than 40 years in the making. Mark talks about how he cultivated the book that lived inside him for so long.

We also get to hear about his careers as a journalist and teacher. He tells us what it was like to work a 5pm – 2pm shift as a City News reporter in Chicago.

Vicki and Wynne get the details of the interplay of journalists and police and the gritty feeling of the denizens of the night.

Mark and Vicki talk about some of the notable Chicago landmarks featured in the story. Wynne can attest that even for non-Chicagoans, the incredible details of place and time provide a richly textured backdrop for this gripping story.

Mark turns the tables on us to find out our favorite parts of the book – the diner scenes, the difference between facts and the truth, and the coming of age shift that happens as we face the real world.

This is a fantastic episode with a fascinating author about a riveting book. We know you'll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 114 show notes

Mark's recent interview on WGN Radio.

"The Kiss of Night" - Available exclusively from Eckhartz Press

Rick Kogan's column in the Chicago Tribune: Former City News kid Mark Wukas delivers "The Kiss of the Night"From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/

May 09, 202543:39
Episode 113: From Banking to Thrillers with Carl Vonderau
Apr 25, 202531:34
Episode 112: Mr. Whisper with Andrew Mayne video podcast

Episode 112: Mr. Whisper with Andrew Mayne video podcast

In this exciting episode, Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon have the pleasure of chatting with the phenomenal best-selling author, Andrew Mayne.Join us as Andrew Mayne takes us on an incredible journey through his captivating career – from mesmerizing audiences as an illusionist on cruise ships, starring in A&E’s hit show “Don’t Trust Andrew Mayne,” designing a groundbreaking stealth suit for diving with Great White sharks on Discovery Channel’s Shark Week, being a Prompt Whisperer and Science Communicator for Open AI, and now a celebrated best-selling author.In his latest thrilling novel, Mr. Whisper, Andrew masterfully unites his four iconic characters from his previous series. He shares the intriguing challenges he faced in writing from multiple perspectives and how the theory of mind played a crucial role in his storytelling. And he reveals how he uses virtual reality technology to go “on location” as he scouts locales for his books.Discover the secrets behind Andrew’s path to success and how his magician’s skills have influenced his writing style, particularly the art of “showing, not telling” in crafting edge-of-your-seat thrillers.Andrew reveals the powerful feedback loop he employed while writing his first books and how his dedication led him to write an astonishing ten books in one year as a practice.Andrew delves into the concept of survivorship bias and its impact on the success stories of those who have “made it.” We explore why this might not hold true for future generations as the world continues to evolve.This podcast is packed with insights that we have pondered long after recording. Andrew’s critical thinking skills, honed through designing his “shock magic” illusions, offer valuable perspectives for various other pursuits.As a bonus, Andrew shares a fantastic tip on teaching critical thinking to young kids, which we found equally applicable to adults.In this captivating interview, Andrew shares one of our new favorite quotes: “When you are okay with being fooled, you unlock a new kind of wonder.” Embrace the mystery, not just in thrillers, but in life itself.Get ready to be enthralled by the fascinating and thought-provoking discussions on magic and writing with the brilliant Andrew Mayne.We know you’ll love it.For show notes and more great inspiration https://sharingtheheartofthematter.com

Links for this episode:

https://andrewmayne.com/

Mr. Whisper by Andrew Mayne on Amazon

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/218134959-mr-whisper

"Don't Trust Andrew Mayne" on A&E: "...features the wildly innovative, mischief-loving magician Andrew Mayne as he sets out to reinvent revenge. His illusions are mind-blowing, but what he loves most is helping people get even."

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/

Apr 18, 202548:47
Episode 112: Mr. Whisper with Andrew Mayne

Episode 112: Mr. Whisper with Andrew Mayne

In this exciting episode, Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon have the pleasure of chatting with the phenomenal best-selling author, Andrew Mayne.

Join us as Andrew Mayne takes us on an incredible journey through his captivating career – from mesmerizing audiences as an illusionist on cruise ships, starring in A&E’s hit show “Don’t Trust Andrew Mayne,” designing a groundbreaking stealth suit for diving with Great White sharks on Discovery Channel’s Shark Week, being a Prompt Whisperer and Science Communicator for Open AI, and now a celebrated best-selling author.

In his latest thrilling novel, Mr. Whisper, Andrew masterfully unites his four iconic characters from his previous series. He shares the intriguing challenges he faced in writing from multiple perspectives and how the theory of mind played a crucial role in his storytelling. And he reveals how he uses virtual reality technology to go “on location” as he scouts locales for his books.

Discover the secrets behind Andrew’s path to success and how his magician’s skills have influenced his writing style, particularly the art of “showing, not telling” in crafting edge-of-your-seat thrillers.

Andrew reveals the powerful feedback loop he employed while writing his first books and how his dedication led him to write an astonishing ten books in one year as a practice.

Andrew delves into the concept of survivorship bias and its impact on the success stories of those who have “made it.” We explore why this might not hold true for future generations as the world continues to evolve.

This podcast is packed with insights that we have pondered long after recording. Andrew’s critical thinking skills, honed through designing his “shock magic” illusions, offer valuable perspectives for various other pursuits.

As a bonus, Andrew shares a fantastic tip on teaching critical thinking to young kids, which we found equally applicable to adults.

In this captivating interview, Andrew shares one of our new favorite quotes: “When you are okay with being fooled, you unlock a new kind of wonder.” Embrace the mystery, not just in thrillers, but in life itself.

Get ready to be enthralled by the fascinating and thought-provoking discussions on magic and writing with the brilliant Andrew Mayne.

We know you’ll love it.

Links for this post:

Episode 112 show notes

https://andrewmayne.com/


Mr. Whisper by Andrew Mayne on Amazonhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/218134959-mr-whisper

"Don't Trust Andrew Mayne" on A&E: "...features the wildly innovative, mischief-loving magician Andrew Mayne as he sets out to reinvent revenge. His illusions are mind-blowing, but what he loves most is helping people get even."

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/

Apr 18, 202551:54
Episode 111: EveryCubEver with Rick Kaempfer Video

Episode 111: EveryCubEver with Rick Kaempfer Video

Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are delighted to talk with author and publisher, Rick Kaempfer about his book EveryCubEver. This is the second game in our baseball double-header as we talk with the hilarious and engaging Rick about his labor of love, EveryCubEver. He swears this seventh edition of the book is the last time he’s going to update it until the Chicago Cubs win the World Series.There are 2600 Cubs in this book – 2296 players and the rest are managers and back office. Rick provides the storytelling in each entry so it’s a great read for history buffs as well as baseball fans. He tells who became a dentist and who ended up in jail, who was on the beaches of Normandy, and who went on to become a governor. As an example of the engaging storytelling, he tells us why manager Frank Chance traded for pitcher Jack Harper just to ruin his career. He gives us the background on the 200 photographs that are included in this edition of the book and where he found them. Rick tells us the touching story of how he got invited to go to the Baseball Hall of Fame induction ceremony this year. Such a fantastic way to round out a year that included publishing this seventh edition of EveryCubEver. Join us as we explore the scenic and beautiful places we go when we tell baseball stories. You won't want to miss this great conversation with the amazing and entertaining, Rick Kaempfer!We know you’ll love it!For show notes and more great inspiration please visit https://sharingtheheartof thematter.com

Apr 16, 202524:59
Episode 111: EveryCubEver with Rick Kaempfer

Episode 111: EveryCubEver with Rick Kaempfer

Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are delighted to talk with author and publisher, Rick Kaempfer about his book EveryCubEver.

This is the second game in our baseball double-header as we talk with the hilarious and engaging Rick about his labor of love, EveryCubEver. He swears this seventh edition of the book is the last time he’s going to update it until the Chicago Cubs win the World Series.

There are 2600 Cubs in this book – 2296 players and the rest are managers and back office. Rick provides the storytelling in each entry so it’s a great read for history buffs as well as baseball fans. He tells who became a dentist and who ended up in jail, who was on the beaches of Normandy, and who went on to become a governor.  

As an example of the engaging storytelling, he tells us why manager Frank Chance traded for pitcher Jack Harper just to ruin his career.

He gives us the background on the 200 photographs that are included in this edition of the book and where he found them.

Rick tells us the touching story of how he got invited to go to the Baseball Hall of Fame induction ceremony this year. Such a fantastic way to round out a year that included publishing this seventh edition of EveryCubEver.

Join us as we explore the scenic and beautiful places we go when we tell baseball stories. You won't want to miss this great conversation with the amazing and entertaining, Rick Kaempfer!

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 111 show notes

EveryCubEver

Chili Dog MVP

The Loop Files

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/

Apr 11, 202527:07
Episode 110: Little League with Mr. D

Episode 110: Little League with Mr. D

In this episode, Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are delighted to be with Wynne's five-year-old son, Mr. D.

Mr. D is so excited about starting on a Little League team that he asked to podcast about it. Which is saying something because he’s not as naturally voluble as his older sister.

We're clearly biased about our guest. But in our opinion listening to the enthusiasm of a kid excited about a team, a sport, and the crack of the ball against a bat stirs the well of our own passions.  

Mr. D shows us all the equipment necessary for Little League – including our favorite, the bubble gum.

We talk about the magic that often happens when we go to MLB games. Vicki tells us about the ball parks and teams in Chicago.

This podcast meanders a bit as we ride along with a young and curious guest. But he brings it all together with an incredible answer when Vicki asks him what he likes best a little before minute 17 in the recording.

We also included a little easter egg at the end at minute 19. Mr. D shows you don’t have to know how to spell in order to capture hearts.

Join us as we explore the scenic and beautiful places we go when we tell baseball stories. You won't want to miss this heart-warming and refreshing perspective of five-year-old Mr. D!

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this podcast

Episode 110 show notes

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/

Apr 04, 202523:47
Episode 109: Daily Dose of Creativity with Danny Gregory

Episode 109: Daily Dose of Creativity with Danny Gregory

In this episode, Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are thrilled to be with the talented artist and author, Danny Gregory.

Danny shares his incredible journey from being an ad agency creative director for 30 years to becoming a renowned author and artist. His books and newsletters are notjust inspiring; they are a daily call to create and live with purpose. They read like good philosophy, urging us to embrace creativity every day.

Our conversation with Danny was nothing short of inspiring. We delved into morning routines, where I meditate and Danny creates art before breakfast. Why? Because, as Danny delightfully quips, our inner critic tends to get up later.

Vicki and I discovered the magic of illustrative journaling with Danny. Art, as he explains, helps us adapt to life’s changes, builds our confidence, and gives us control over our perspective. It keeps us from being stuck in the mundane.

Danny’s enormously popular YouTube channel is less about teaching how to draw and more about understanding the chemical process of creativity. He reminds us that our inner critic is no more correct than we are. Talking with Danny is like having a good coach who not only teaches us skills but also provides the mindset to be most productive.

Join us as we explore the scenic and beautiful places we go as creators. You won't want to miss this insightful and inspiring conversation with Danny Gregory!

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode

Episode 109 show notes

Danny's weekly newsletterhttps://www.dannygregory.com/books

https://www.dannygregory.com/

https://www.sketchbookskool.com/

https://www.dannygregory.com/monkey

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/


Mar 28, 202540:55
Episode 108: The Drowning Game with Barbara Nickless

Episode 108: The Drowning Game with Barbara Nickless

Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are with best-selling author, Barbara Nickless.

Barbara's fascinating resume includes roles as a technical writer, instructional designer, raptor rehabilitator, piano teacher, performer, sword fighter, and Director of Education for the country’s largest public astronomical observatory.

She shares her journey to becoming a best-selling author of thrillers and how devastating losses have led to new opportunities.

Barbara also discusses how writing helps process experiences and how she has taught writingto combat veterans.

We delve into her creative fuel that has led to nine novels in ten years, and her wholehearted investment in research and writing, which shines through in her characters' internal growth.

Join us as we explore the scenic and beautiful places that inspire Barbara's best-selling novels. You won't want to miss this insightful and inspiring conversation!

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 108 show notes

Barbara's website: Barbara Nickless

The Drowning Game on Goodreads

Barbara's books on Amazon (and also available through Kindle Unlimited)

The Drowning Game

The Dr. Evan Wilding Series:
Book 1: At First Light
Book 2: Dark of Night
Book 3: Play of Shadows

Sydney Parnell Series:
Book 1: Blood on the Tracks
Book 2: Dead Stop
Book 3: Ambush
Book 4: Gone to Darkness

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/


Mar 21, 202526:25
Episode 107: Writing and Adventure with Darlene Foster
Mar 14, 202527:43
Episode 106: The Miss Factor with Miss O

Episode 106: The Miss Factor with Miss O

Mar 07, 202524:39
Episode 105: Joy Is... with Dave Williams
Feb 28, 202524:32
Episode 104: Pride and Preston Lin with Christina Hwang Dudley

Episode 104: Pride and Preston Lin with Christina Hwang Dudley

In this episode, Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are with friend and author, Christina Dudley talking about Christina’s book Pride and Preston Lin.

We love this book. Christina has created a fantastic adaptation of Jane Austen’s beloved book Pride and Prejudice. And it is so much more than a contemporary retelling of the story. Christina’s dialogue and clever plot devices make it a compelling and devourable book. Trust me, Wynne can attest because she hid from her kids for an hour so she could finish it.

Christina tells us about being an avid reader growing up and never realizing that none of the characters resembled her. So she shares with us her a-ha moment when she read her first Chinese American author. We also talk about how she found her path to writing.

Her inspiration and lessons learned are so interesting and powerful. From notes about the romance genre overall to the marketing tactics she has discovered, Christina generously shares a lot of great info, some of which she had to divine by trial and error.

In this episode, we not only talk about writing but also about the beautiful arc of characters. It’s a great takeaway of kindness and thoughtfulness that is sure to leave you inspired.

We’re confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the storytelling about a great book and more!

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode

Episode 104 show notes

Christina's website: https://christinadudley.com/books/pride-preston-lin/

Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/199362002-pride-and-preston-lin

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/

Feb 21, 202532:46
Episode 103: Turning the Tables with Brian Hannon
Feb 14, 202519:53
Episode 102: Writer's Lessons with Melanie McGauran

Episode 102: Writer's Lessons with Melanie McGauran

In this episode, Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are back with author and blogger, Melanie McGauran and we are talking about writer lessons.

Melanie always inspires us with her curiosity and willingness to learn. She is so generous to be willing to share her lessons with us.

She tells us the story behind her essay Growing Up Fast in 1978. We love the essay for its revealing look at her family dynamics and the complicated path she had to walk to get to go to college.

And then she shares some of the lessons she learned from a class she took with author Marin Sardy. She tells us about the chronological canyon and other pitfalls we can fall into.

Melanie shares some of the back and forth she had with Marin as she absorbed the feedback Marin gave her. We laugh that sometimes it’s hard to listen even if the source is an acclaimed author.

And then she extends the lessons with some wise and practical tidbits she picked up from a writing book by Steven Pressfield.

Melanie reveals his advice that hones in on the reader experience. And she shares some questions he provides to make sure content is relatable:

Is it fun?

Is it challenging?

Is it inventive?

Am I giving the reader enough?

Are they bored?

Are they taking me where I want to lead them?

 We’re confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the writer lessons learned that help us improve and extend our storytelling!

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 102 show notes

Growing Up Fast in 1978

Melanie's blog: https://leavingthedooropen.com/

Steven Pressfield - writing that inspired Melanie: https://stevenpressfield.com/books/

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/

Feb 07, 202540:20
Episode 101: Out of Our Comfort Zone with Mark Petruska
Jan 31, 202536:33
Episode 100: Celebrate with Us!
Jan 24, 202523:45
Episode 99: The Gift That Keeps on Giving with Pete Springer
Jan 17, 202527:13
Episode 98: Soup's On with Beth Kennedy

Episode 98: Soup's On with Beth Kennedy

Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are with blogger and teacher, Beth Kennedy, over a big pot of soup.

Metaphorically speaking of course because we’re separated by three different times zones. But otherwise, we can really stretch the goodness of soup.

Beth tells us why she likes soup so much to inspire more than 20 posts over the years. We discuss the multicultural as well as the community aspect of it.

Vicki and Wynne ask about how she finds the terrific quotes to go with the hearty content. Beth shares some of the unusual sources that you wouldn’t expect in a quote about soup.

We laugh about the different concoctions we’ve made and share the recipes – not only for a wonderful meal but also for community and connection.

We also talk about the Himalayan stew that inspired Beth’s post and how it’s like the melting pot of Everest Base Camp.

This is a great episode that will feed you on many levels. With an accompanying recipe, it’s great inspiration on the literal level. But also on the story-telling, creativity, and collaboration levels as well.

We're confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling over a cup of good soup.

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 98 show notes (including Some Like It Hot Chili recipe)

Beth's Blog: https://ididnthavemyglasseson.com/

Good Soup by Beth

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/


Jan 10, 202530:11
Episode 97: Raising Jess with Vickie Rubin

Episode 97: Raising Jess with Vickie Rubin

In this episode, Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are talking with author, public speaker, and parental advocate, Vickie Rubin.

Vickie gives us the elevator pitch for her book, Raising Jess. She jokes that it's long enough to require an elevator in the tallest building in Manhattan. Fitting, because there is so much goodness in her book about raising her child with a chromosome deletion: mother’s intuition, decisions about whether to have more children, the grandparent’s point of view, and more.

Vickie’s openness and support of others are so inspiring. In her work supporting other families trying to navigate the systems to get resources for their children to Facebook communities, Vickie is a powerful parental resource and advocate. By telling her story, she continues to help others navigate their own challenges.

Vicki and Wynne ask about what’s next for Vickie. She’s recently published an article in Newsweek and she tells us about the writing classes she taking.

This is a great episode that not only focuses on the resilience, love, and thriving of one family but also inspires the same in everyone who listens. When we share our stories, we empower others and Vickie illustrates that so well.

I’m confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling – in our books, our podcasts, and our lives.

We know you’ll love it!

On a programming note, this is the last episode of 2024. We'll drop the next one on Jan 10, 2025. See you then!

Links for this episode:

Episode 97 show notes

Vickie Rubin | Author & Advocate | Special Needs Parenting
Thankful for Superhero Healthcare Folks: Bones, Scopes & Hopes
Newsweek Article: Mom’s Diagnosis Was Crushing Enough, Then She Gave Me an Ominous Warning

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/



Dec 13, 202448:22
Episode 96: Embracing Tech and Non-Tech Change with Mark Petruska

Episode 96: Embracing Tech and Non-Tech Change with Mark Petruska

In this episode, Vicki Atkinson and Wynne are talking with author, blogger, and WordPress pro, Mark Petruska.

This year is Mark’s 15th year blogging on WordPress. And he blogged on a different platform before that. Clearly, he’s a pro.

So he walks us through the many things that he’s done to keep things fresh over the years. Switching themes, changing site names, even combining two blogs and changing URLs.

His advice as a veteran? Know the purpose of your blog and keep it in mind as you redesign.

Mark tells us about December snow and for us relatively new people to WordPress, it’s some cool history.

One of the takeaways that I love from this conversation is that Mark talks about site design as a creative act in and of itself. So if we are ever stuck in a writing rut, it’s one idea to get us out!

This is a really encouraging episode that on the surface is about  the considerations behind designing a good site and all that goes in to a WordPress blog. But really it’s also about knowing your purpose and embracing change in any area. Mark’s long experience is both illuminating and emboldening.

I’m confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling – not only in our words but also in our site designs.

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode

Episode 96 show notes

Mark's book - a brilliant thriller: https://www.amazon.com/No-Time-Kings-Mark-Petruska/dp/1614344604

Mark's blog: https://markpetruska.com/

Other Episodes with Mark:

Episode 65: How to Be the New Guy with Mark Petruska

Episode 41: Enter if You Dare with Mark Petruska

Episode 33: Love Lessons with Mark Petruska

Episode 26: Eye of the Tiger with Mark Petruska

Episode 18: No Time for Kings with Mark Petruska

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/


Dec 06, 202428:45
Episode 95: Finding our People with Ab

Episode 95: Finding our People with Ab

In this episode, Wynne Leon and Vicki Atkinson are with blogger, parent and social justice advocate, Ab.

Ab tells us the great story of a chance encounter he had with a woman standing next to him and his family in an hour-long line. She led with a query and Ab answered with his trademark humor and openness.

Vicki and Wynne delve into how these encounters can be very different from what we imagine when we genuinely lean into them.

Ab talks about the loneliness epidemic and how the antidote to negative feelings and isolation is connection. While finding your people isn’t always easy, it’s facilitated by having an open-heart.

We explore how sometimes we're in the prison of our own thoughts and how human connection breaks us out of that loop and facilitates kindness.  

This is such a fascinating episode. We love the kinship we with have with Ab. And he’s so good at illustrating how community is where kindness and empathy happens. It’s where we have the opportunity to support each other and create deep relationships.

I’m confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling about finding our people.

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode:

Sharing the Heart of the Matter Episode 95 show notes

Ab's Blog: My life with T

Ab's post: Hiking Takakkaw Falls and Canoeing Emerald Lake at Yoho National Park

The U.S. Surgeon General’s Advisory on the Healing Effects of Social Connection and Community's 2023 report "Our Epidemic of Loneliness and Isolation"  

The Human Library Movement

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne's book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; blog: https://wynneleon.com


Nov 29, 202429:14
Episode 94: Decoding our Dreams with Melanie McGauran

Episode 94: Decoding our Dreams with Melanie McGauran

In this episode Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are talking with author, blogger, and former newspaper writer, Melanie McGauran about decoding our dreams.

This is such a fascinating episode. The interior of our minds is an interesting, and sometimes scary, place. But it is so fun how Melanie brings her love of mysteries to this practice of sifting through the clues.

Melanie talks about her fascination with dreams and how she both remembers hers and extends them. It’s a wonderful practice to not only appreciate the dreamscape but also focus the mind in the middle of the night.

She introduces us to the work of Matthew Walker, author of Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams and his insight that in dreaming, we access our memory tree but without the guardrails of logic.

Melanie combines that memory mixology with her unstoppable creativity, joy and problem-solving to decode dreams.

This episode is such a fun take on dreaming, writing and creativity. We love Melanie’s passion and interest and get to see that in action as she helps us make stories from our dreams.

I’m confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling – in podcasts, in conversation, and in dreams.

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 94 show notes

Late and Lost by Vicki Atkinson

Melanie's blog: https://leavingthedooropen.com/

"Why We Sleep" - Matthew Walker, Ph.D

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/



Nov 22, 202433:06
Episode 93: Celebrating Poetry with Cindy Georgakas

Episode 93: Celebrating Poetry with Cindy Georgakas

Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon talk with author, blogger, life coach, and health and wellness professional, Cindy Georgakas.

In this vibrant conversation we get such a wonderful taste of Cindy’s energized and connected presence. She tells us how Covid was the impetus of starting to share wellness information in a different format.

That led to her book released last year in the Happiness Category, Re-Create and Celebrate: 7 Steps to Live the Life of Your Dreams.” In the process of releasing that book, she planned a second release of the book of the poetry she wasn’t able to include in Re-Create & Celebrate. Celebrating Poetry is due out mid-November.

Hearing Cindy tell these stories underscores the rich lessons of learning to adjust when what we’ve planned turns out to be different timing and format.

Vicki and Wynne ask Cindy about what else she has planned on her creative radar.

This is a great episode because all of Cindy’s answers are so full of heart. She is an inspiring author to listen to – because she’s so interested in creating a-ha moments for others. Cindy is a well-spring of wisdom that speaks to the essence of who we are.

I’m confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling – in podcasts, in poetry, and in conversation.

We know you’ll love it!


Links for this Episode:

Episode 93 show notes

Cindy's website and blog: https://uniquelyfitblog.com/

Re-create & Celebrate: 7 Steps to Turn Your Dreams Into Reality

From the hosts:

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue; Blog: https://victoriaponders.com/

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith; Blog: https://wynneleon.com/


Nov 15, 202430:07
Episode 92: Baydreamer - Author Lauren Scott

Episode 92: Baydreamer - Author Lauren Scott

Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon talk with author, and blogger, Lauren Scott.

Lauren tell us the beautiful story about how she started a poetry blog 14 years ago. In the process, she cultivated the roots she’d planted as a young girl for poetry as a destination for her emotions.

Vicki and Wynne ask how she took the step from her blog to publishing books. Lauren tells us the themes of each of her FOUR published books. She weaves the theme of love through all of them, even the most serious, just the way love carries us through life.

And she gives us a sneak peek into the children’s book that is about to hit the press. She authored it with her nephew as illustrator.

The morning we recorded this podcast, Lauren’s piece Treats Only, Please was announced as best publication of the month on Spillwords Press

This podcast is like a master class on the growth mindset. Those are our words, not Lauren’s because she is wonderfully humble and real. Which makes it even more powerful and inspiring to hear Lauren tell about her writer’s journey – all the things she’s overcome and been willing to try – and how that feeds into fantastic ideas for new projects.

We're confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling – in podcasts, in posts, and in novels.

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this podcast:

Episode 92 show notes

Website: baydreamerwrites.com
Author Of The Month, May 2023 Spillwords Press
Monthly Contributor, Gobbers-Masticadores Literary Website
Amazon Author Page

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith

Nov 08, 202428:25
Episode 91: NaNoWriMo with Brian Hannon
Nov 01, 202424:27
Episode 90: Site Design and WordPress Themes

Episode 90: Site Design and WordPress Themes

In this episode, Wynne Leon and Vicki Atkinson talk about site design and WordPress themes.

We know - we can hear you groaning from here. In fact, Wynne is groaning right along with you even though this is a large part of what she's done professionally for 30 years.

But if you are thinking about changing up your site or even just wondering if you should, there are some good tactics to help make this manageable.

We talk through some of the design considerations to be mindful of like navigation and search. And then we look at the sections to consider when picking a theme like the header, footer, and sidebar.

We address some of the problems we’ve heard people have encountered when switching themes in WordPress like content disappearing and inability to revert back. Wynne offers some strategies for avoiding that flavor of disappointment and disaster.

There is a presentation that gives these elements and examples to download as a companion piece to this podcast. Here’s the thing – tackling site design isn’t always fun, but it’s better when we do it together with some good approaches and tactics.

We're confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling as told through well-designed sites.

We know you’ll love it!

P.S. Here's the link to a PDF presentation of the ideas and process presented in this podcast conversation.

Links for this episode:

Episode 90 show notes

Related episode: Episode 87: LinkedIn Tweaks for Authors

Vicki’s book about resilience and love: Surviving Sue

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith

Oct 25, 202436:07
Episode 89: Tea Time with Wynne and Vicki
Oct 18, 202415:41
Episode 88: Meditative Moments with Wynne and Vicki

Episode 88: Meditative Moments with Wynne and Vicki

Wynne Leon and Vicki Atkinson talk about meditative moments.

We think it’s fair to say that we all have times where life feels frenzied. And it isn’t only because our to-do lists get too long. It’s also because of the pace of the world around us, and our exposure to the news, in whatever way we consume it.

Both Vicki and Wynne start the day with sacred time for meditation. It’s non-negotiable for Wynne so that she can at least start the day with a measure of faith and perspective.

But we know that doesn’t work for everyone. So we talk about our tricks to instill some calm. Vicki tells us about how she sets aside multi-tasking to focus on one thing at a time. And more than that, how to slow tasks to reap the full benefit.

For Wynne, music can help to disrupt the stress swirl. Tuning in to songs from my youth delivers a noticeable energy lift as well. We touch on the research of Harvard psychology professor Dr. Ellen Langer about how our brains can impact our bodies.

It’s not hard to imagine that Vicki is an inveterate smile-r. She shares a story about how offering friendliness to others brings a side benefit of joy.

We're confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling.

We know you’ll love it!

Links for the episode:

Episode 88 show notes

Episode 79: Sometimes You Have to Laugh with Author Pete Springer – The Heart of the Matter (sharingtheheartofthematter.com)

The Subtle Shaping of Our Brains – The Heart of the Matter (sharingtheheartofthematter.com)

Meditate on this! – The Heart of the Matter (sharingtheheartofthematter.com)

Write it Out – The Heart of the Matter (sharingtheheartofthematter.com)

Vicki’s book: Surviving Sue

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith

Oct 11, 202427:19
Episode 87: LinkedIn Tweaks for Authors with Dr. Vicki Atkinson

Episode 87: LinkedIn Tweaks for Authors with Dr. Vicki Atkinson

In this episode, Wynne Leon is with co-host, Dr. Vicki Atkinson and we are talking about tweaking LinkedIn to reflect our identities as authors.

Dr. Atkinson has so much good advice on how to build a presence that reflects our many facets. Her professional experience as a career counselor, therapist, and educator comes shining through in this episode. We learn some great how-to’s in this episode.

I found updating my LinkedIn profile to be challenging. I have 30+ years in the technology industry and I’m unsure how to marry that with my writing and experience as an author.

So Vicki walks me through using headlines instead of titles. She provides a great tip about using tags to introduce some dynamism into our profile and ability to be found.

Dr. Atkinson talks me through the idea of integrity as it applies to building a profile that honors ALL of who we are. As we pivot from professional experiences, interests and passions, she coaches us to do the story-telling to paint a picture of our whole-hearted experience.

And finally, we talk about the use of images to compliment our presentation.

I’m confident you’ll learn a lot -- and also love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling in our profiles.

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 87 show notes

PDF copy of Vicki's recommendations and LinkedIn changes presentation

Wynne Leon | LinkedIn

Dr. Victoria Atkinson, Ed.D. | LinkedIn

It’s Never Too Late for Courage – Victoria Ponders

Realizing Potential – Victoria Ponders

Vicki’s book: Surviving Sue

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith

Oct 04, 202430:17
Episode 86: Tandem Riding with Cheryl Oreglia

Episode 86: Tandem Riding with Cheryl Oreglia

In this episode, Wynne Leon and Vicki Atkinson are with author, blogger and fantastic story-teller, Cheryl Oreglia.

Cheryl takes us along on the Register’s Annual Great Bike Ride Across Iowa which is familiarly known as RAGBRAI. Seven hot days of riding, camping, and communing with 20,000 other riders.

Sounds fun, right? But what Cheryl does so consistently is bring the magic. She rides in tandem – both on the bike with her husband, Larry, and also in her writing. She is so good at synchronizing her inner landscape with all that she sees around.

She takes us on this journey from the Missouri River to the Mississippi River. And she leaves Vicki and me in tears about what it all means.

Cheryl is a beautiful writer and inspirational story-teller. She reminds us all what is out there when we face our fears and try hard things.

Pork chops, sunrise, kindness, and courage to name just a few.

I’m confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling.

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode

Episode 86 show notes

Cheryl's blog: Living in the Gap

RAGBRAI 2024 – Living in the Gap (cheryloreglia.blog)

Other episodes with Cheryl:

Episode 61: The Writers Conference with Cheryl Oreglia by Sharing the Heart of the Matter (spotify.com)

Episode 30: True Grit with Cheryl Oreglia by Sharing the Heart of the Matter (spotify.com)

Episode 7: Grow Damn It! by Sharing the Heart of the Matter (spotify.com)

From the Hosts:

Vicki’s recently released book: Surviving Sue

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith


Sep 27, 202428:22
Episode 85: Writing and Advocacy with Ab

Episode 85: Writing and Advocacy with Ab

In this episode, Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are with blogger, parent, FASD advocate and amazing human, Ab from the My Life with T blog.

Ab tells us of the moment both his advocacy and blogging started. When a program supporting kids like his young son was canceled, it lit both fires.

The writing practice is part of Ab’s self-care. It helps him process the events that need to be noted, held onto, learned from, and cherished. It’s a great tool in his wonderful resource kit for parenting well.

And then his writing helps to raise awareness about people living with FASD. Ab shares the definition of Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder and we discuss how building awareness and understanding is so important.

Ab makes such great connections about different blogs and the way our writing unites us.

It was so much fun to be able to talk with Ab. It feels as if we are old friends after interacting nearly every day for 4 years on one blog or another. He is so passionate, funny and articulate and we could have talked for hours. Vicki and I are so lucky to have the great fun of being able to talk with people who are dear blog friends.

This in an incredible conversation about how moments of disappointment and frustration can blossom into something fruitful when you follow the threads as Ab did.

We're confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling.

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 85 show notes

My Life with T blog by Ab

In Canada: What is FASD? - CanFASD

In the United States: FASDUnited.Org

A great resource for caregivers trying to understand and support a loved one with FASD:

Trying Differently Rather Than Harder: Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders - Third Edition: 9780972953207: Books - Amazon.ca

A book by recognized FASD educator Nate Sheets:

Essential FASD Supports: Understanding and Supporting People with Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorders: Sheets, Nate: 9781977245083: Books - Amazon.ca

From the Hosts:

Vicki’s recently released book: Surviving Sue

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith


Sep 20, 202426:29
Episode 84: Autumnal Shifts with Deirdre Wilcox

Episode 84: Autumnal Shifts with Deirdre Wilcox

Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon are with wellness educator, meditation teacher, yoga teacher, and massage therapist, Deirdre Wilcox. As Wynne's teacher and friend for nearly 30 years, Deirdre has shared so much grounded wisdom. Of her many gifts, one that we love that is highlighted in this conversation, is her ability to help frame what we are experiencing in biological terms. So she walks us through the shift from summer to fall in terms of the cues our bodies are receiving. And this leads to a huge a-ha about the persistent question at the end of summer, “Have we done enough?” Deirdre suggests some practices that reduce the overwhelm as we move from the freedom and spontaneity of summer to the structure of autumn. One of the things we like most about her approach is that she understands that the things that have a chance to stick are the small ones. So she suggests some small changes for us to incorporate as we move towards falls. Ways that we can incorporate rituals to thoughtfully move from one season to the next. And one of our absolute favorites, an invitation to take it all in and notice what we did with our summer before we move on. We're confident you’ll love the scenic and beautiful places we explore as we share the power of storytelling. We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 84 show notes

Deirdre Therapeutics (deirdrewilcox.com)

From the Hosts:

Vicki’s recently released book: Surviving Sue

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith

Sep 13, 202433:13
Episode 83: The Need to Nest with Vicki and Wynne
Sep 06, 202425:26
Episode 82: "Embrace Your Weird" with Author Dave Williams
Aug 30, 202428:43
Episode 81: Clutter Tales with Michelle Oram
Aug 23, 202428:13
Episode 80: Mastering Manifestation with Mark Petruska
Aug 16, 202424:59
Episode 79: Sometimes You Just Have to Laugh with Pete Springer

Episode 79: Sometimes You Just Have to Laugh with Pete Springer

Aug 09, 202425:45
Episode 78: The Blessings and Responsibilities of Friendship with Dr. Gerald Stein

Episode 78: The Blessings and Responsibilities of Friendship with Dr. Gerald Stein

In this episode my hosts Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon talk with esteemed psychologist, Dr. Gerald Stein.

Dr. Stein has become a great friend of the Sharing the Heart of the Matter podcast so it was so fitting that he came on to share revealing and delightful stories about friendship.

He tells of the three categories of friendship according to Aristotle. And we talk about the investment that it takes to build a platonic relationship with another.

Of course, with investments come payoffs. And Dr. Stein coaches us through how to think about that term when it comes to friendship.

In the course of any lasting relationship, apologies come into play. Dr. Stein tells us some wonderfully illustrative stories about apologies and brings us to the heart of apology.

I’m certain you’ll enjoy the scenic and beautiful places we go when we share the power of story.

We know you’ll love it!

About Friendship by Dr. Gerald Stein

Becoming Close Friends: A Practical Guide by Dr. Gerald Stein

Episode 78 show notes

Dr. Gerald Stein’s Blog: Dr. Gerald Stein

Other podcast episodes with Dr. Stein:

Episode 60: The Perils of Prediction with Dr. Gerald Stein

Episode 46: Being Your Own Best Friend With Dr. Gerald Stein – Part I

Episode 47: Being Your Own Best Friend With Dr. Gerald Stein – Part II

Episode 37: The Waiting Game with Dr. Gerald Stein

Episode 29: Accidental Philanthropists with Dr. Gerald Stein

Episode 20: The Art of the Interview with Dr. Gerald Stein

From the Hosts:

Vicki’s recently released book: Surviving Sue

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith

Aug 02, 202440:39
Episode 77: Singing to the Heavens with Miss O
Jul 26, 202416:51
Episode 76: On the Bus with Eric Knudson
Jul 19, 202427:23
Episode 75: "Cast Aside" with Beth Kennedy
Jul 12, 202421:12
Episode 74: Remembering Friends with Melanie McGauran

Episode 74: Remembering Friends with Melanie McGauran

In this episode, Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon talk with Melanie McGauran. Melanie is a former newspaper reporter and has a beautiful blog, Leavingthedooropen.com.

Melanie tells the story of her friend, doctor and educator, Lissa McKinley. As Lissa goes through her own journey of cancer, it informs her abilities as a doctor, teacher, and humanist.

Melanie tells us of her long friendship with Lissa, starting in all-girls preparatory school, and how she drew inspiration from Lissa both in life and in death.

We talk about how writing helps touch others long after we’re gone, especially when we go through similar experiences.

Melanie tells us about how Lissa’s joy and gratitude rippled out, even more so now that she has shared it with us.

We also get to hear about Melanie’s inspiration as a writer and newspaper reporter, starting with the legacy of her grandparents who were well-known artists.

This is a great episode with a fabulous writer about gratitude, empathy, and connecting with others. Through words, actions, and sometimes even tattoos.

So I know you’ll enjoy the scenic and beautiful places we go when we share the power of story.

We know you’ll love it!

Links for this episode:

Episode 74 show notes

Melanie’s Blog: Leavingthedooropen.com – Real Storytelling

Saving Lissa – Leavingthedooropen.com

A New Me - Leavingthedooropen.com

Vicki’s personal blog: Victoria Ponders

Wynne’s personal blog: Surprised by Joy

Vicki’s recently released book: Surviving Sue

Wynne’s book about her beloved father: Finding My Father’s Faith

Jul 05, 202427:33
Episode 73: Planning It Out With Brian Hannon
Jun 28, 202417:04
Episode 72: Smiles From the Unemployment Office
Jun 21, 202418:38
Episode 71: Catching an Edge with Wynne and Vicki
Jun 13, 202419:24
Episode 70: "A" is for Ambivalence with Vicki and Wynne
Jun 06, 202415:00
Episode 69: All You Have To Do Is Ask with Wynne and Vicki
May 30, 202418:04