TAB Storytellers

By Abi Paytoe Gbayee & Jen Ferrari

Join hosts Jen Ferrari (she/her) and Abi Paytoe Gbayee (she/her) as they have informal conversations with TAB leaders and educators, discussing topics related to the Teaching for Artistic Behavior movement in art education. Our goal with this TABcast is to hear the stories of how folx found TAB, are implementing TAB in their classrooms, and answer questions related to TAB. Also we promise to laugh at ourselves often and not take any of this too seriously, we just aren't those people.

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S1E9: Meet Catherine Dupras & Pedro Mendonça

TAB StorytellersJan 28, 2023

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S2E11: Meet Clyde Gaw and Clark Fralick

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Clyde Gaw and Clark Fralick, TAB art educators. Among the topics discussed are how Clyde and Clark found TAB, technology, advocacy, authentic making, and the Secret Art of Boys as well as several other topics.

For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingfor artisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB!

For more information about The Secret Art of Boys: https://clydegaw.blogspot.com/2010/07/blog-post.html

Here is a link to the unedited transcript (alright almost unedited transcript - Abi is playing with Chat GPT 4.0 to see if she can make this better) of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q8yk2X-W38cntYIA-y3VPaVPTA9K21KgCoznpFGdrGQ/edit?usp=sharing

We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

Mar 16, 202401:07:19

S2E10: Meet Melissa Purtee

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Melissa Purtee, HS TAB teacher and Co-Director of the TAB Summer Institute. Among the topics discussed are transitioning from elementary to high school, writing about TAB, the TAB Summer Institute (coming July 22-27, 2024), and some advice for thinking about moving more into choice

For more information about:

TAB Summer Institute: https://teachingforartisticbehavior.org/professional-development/

Melissa’s Books: The Open Art Room - https://www.davisart.com/choice-based-art-education/ and Making Artists: https://www.davisart.com/student-led-classroom/

Melissa’s Substacks: https://substack.com/@thoughtsonarting

Melissa’s Blog from 2013-2019: http://www.thoughtsonarting.com/

Ian Sand's Apex High School Blog: https://apexhsart.blogspot.com/

Writing for SchoolArts Magazine: https://www.davisart.com/schoolarts/write-for-schoolarts/

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LD-mTkwAm2aDh5ILMLnvChyWl13Lbw6NVDqQ0hTRp58/edit?usp=sharing

We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

Feb 20, 202428:56

S2E9: Meet the NAEA Choice Art Interest Group Co-Presidents

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by the NAEA Choice Art Interest Group Co-Presidents Mandy DeWitt, Julie Jacobusse, Michelle Puhl-Price, and Damien “Coach” Phillips. Among the topics discussed are some of the nuances between Choice and TAB, finding the balance on the choice continuum that works for you, and how to get involved with the Choice Art Interest Group.

For more information about the Choice Art Interest Group or to join as a member you can find out more at these great links: https://sites.google.com/view/choicearteducators/home

https://www.arteducators.org/community/articles/257-choice-art-educators-cae

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1699665476977044/

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mbWsR5gbDvrt1tc6WB6yJwKjdAx3xuDL_8vXGguXIrI/edit?usp=sharing

We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

Jan 21, 202451:14

S2E8: Meet Rebecca Stone-Danahy

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Rebecca Stone-Danahy, AP Art and Design Director and Assessment Specialist with the College Board. Among the topics discussed are Rebecca’s TAB journey, the parallels between TAB and AP Art and Design, shifting pedagogies, and the importance of building relationships with students, among other things.

For more information about the AP Art and Design Program or the amazing AP Art and Design Exhibit check out these links!

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13ZgPnY2_60zhHyf3FrJ9Ig_fXBixjTeOxkQCa7JdT3Q/edit?usp=sharing

We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

Dec 16, 202348:30

S2E7: Meet Seymour Simmons, III

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Seymour Simmon, III, Professor of Fine Arts Emeritus, Winthrop College. Among the topics discussed include history of art education and drawing, Arts PROPEL, and much more.

For more information about Seymour Simmon III, check out his website - https://www.seymoursimmons.com/

Also the article that was mentioned in the show can be found here: The Art of Disturbation

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19WwrS2KLiQZsvnrlnOOHU-G2cR3gc0DWhiiB4R7MxRI/edit?usp=sharing

We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

Nov 18, 202301:12:27

S2E6: Meet Jennifer Smith

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Jennifer Ryan Smith, K-8 art teacher and outdoor education coordinator at the University of Wyoming Lab School. Among the topics discussed are integration in art, project based learning, and advocating for your program.

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SNCgG9PpAk9BCDqDNh1L2IbzIiUwl-av6Njeer9GFfU/edit?usp=sharing

We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

Oct 29, 202301:03:03

S2E5: Meet George Szekely and Ilona Szekely

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by the dynamic father-daughter duo George and Ilona Szekely, Ilona is a full professor at Eastern Kentucky University and George is Emeritus at Kentucky University. Among the topics discussed are George’s history with TAB, the collecting of collections, and the importance of play and agency.

For more information about George’s works head to his website https://www.georgeszekely.com or connect with more play and art information check out www.playbasedart.org or look up the Play Based Art Teaching group on Facebook. Here is an open letter George has written to the TAB community https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cYQC3h8XYZLr30tAqEaqt7c7Wc-XPtEb68MbN5IidTc/edit?usp=sharing

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hUlm_fyxZpb7f2wTjGC7aOmwu3zYzSEN0JiqkVcoYc0/edit?usp=sharing We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

Sep 16, 202301:01:34

S2E4: Meet Leah Maltbie

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Leah Maltbie, Assistant Director of Fine Arts for the Anchorage School District. Among the topics discussed are challenges facing art educators as they work to implement more choice or bring the TAB approach to their contexts, art shows, communicating with administrators, and so much more.

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mBZmci07wLqxfNU9PemXWsL8AdK1jSMcVe7PWBCsqkU/edit?usp=sharing We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org.

Aug 12, 202347:36

TAB Storytellers: Live from the Institute!

This special bonus TABcast features a variety of art educators from across the country sharing their takeaways, stand-out moments, and other thoughts from the 2023 TAB Institute.

The Institute is a professional development opportunity that features cohort-based collaborative learning, instructional workshops, community building, and open studio time. It is held annually in July at the Massachusetts College of Art and Design in Boston. For more information about the Institute, check out https://massart.edu/teaching-artistic-behavior-tab. Even though this year's Institute has ended, you can sign up for information about next year's Institute at the link above.

We were very fortunate this year to have as keynote speakers Elena Belle White and Ekua Holmes of the Center for Art and Community Partnerships (CACP) at MassArt. To find out more about their incredible organization, please visit the following link: https://massart.edu/cacp

*Due to the constraints of technology, no transcript is available for this episode.

Jul 22, 202339:01

S2E3: Meet Mario Rossero

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Mario Rossero, Executive Director of the National Art Education Association (NAEA). Among the topics discussed are Mario’s journey from classroom art educator to his current position with NAEA, the power of naming things, advocacy, and ways TAB educators can connect with NAEA.

For more information about NAEA, the NAEA convention, and NAEA interest groups, including the Choice Based Art Education Interest Group head over to https://www.arteducators.org/.

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z2CTQWcoEHWqaoVpXNQvTKexQVYJDlJx07Pft7zYJZc/edit?usp=sharing

We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

Jul 15, 202355:04

S2E2: Meet Lois Hetland and Ellen Winner

In this episode of TAB Storytellers, Jen and Abi are joined by Lois Hetland and Ellen Winner, two prominent researchers and contributors to the fields of psychology and art education. Among the topics discussed are their work on Project Zero at Harvard University, the Studio Thinking Framework, its impact on teachers*, and the exciting possibilities for the future of art education.

*At the beginning of this TABcast, a survey is mentioned. This survey aims to determine the extent to which TAB teachers use the Studio Thinking framework. If you would like to participate (and be entered into a raffle for a $100 Blick gift card), click on the link below to take the very brief, 2-minute survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/28MJ23C

Unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1afffvIhSGBHwxdai4gW5slXtSCZ6CWvb1slYDJSmLgA/edit?usp=sharing

Jun 19, 202354:42

S2E1: Meet Parker Wolverton

Welcome to TAB Storytellers' second season! Join Jen and Abi as they visit with Parker Wolverton, an elementary art teacher wrapping up his third year teaching at Indian Paintbrush Elementary School in Laramie, Wyoming, as they discuss what it is like to be an art teacher finding TAB and recently starting to move into student centered teaching practices. Jen and Abi answer some of Parker's questions, troubleshoot concerns, and share the excitement of Parker's enthusiasm for TAB.

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SP6kNIsgTVsvGgNBBAh_mJMbo4BiEy332bTcw1w6QJg/edit?usp=sharing

We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org

May 20, 202301:17:47

S1E12: Meet Texas TAB (feat. Julie Bates, Lori Wallace, and Stacy Bzdok)

Welcome to TAB Storytellers' 12th episode and season finale! Join Jen and Abi as they chat with Julie Bates, Lori Wallace, and Stacy Bzdok, visual art teachers and members of the regional group Texas TAB. Together, they discuss child aesthetics versus adult aesthetics, advocacy for our art programs, students as teachers, and takeaways from the 2023 NAEA National Convention in San Antonio.

For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingforartisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior-inc.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to building knowledge and community!

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UVy7XQTC1pj12iJN7O5pIIaPu7qm-MbuiDMa0BKnWpg/edit?usp=sharing. We recognize that there are errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org.

Apr 30, 202358:25

S1E11: Meet D. J. Osmack

Welcome to TAB Storytellers' 11th episode! Join Jen and Abi as they chat with D. J. Osmack, a visual art teacher at North High School in Denver, Colorado and the Past-President of the Colorado Art Education Association. Together, they discuss the impact of play and experimentation on our artistic processes, the role of the teacher in the art room and the curriculum, and the impactful practice of visual journaling.

For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingforartisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior-inc.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB!

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QA4-hOhckUm97TVJ5x7SuIa4Z99--Ttt1bgACZVu9EE/edit?usp=sharing. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org.

Mar 24, 202354:55

S1E10: Meet Beth Balliro

Welcome to TAB Storytellers' 10th episode! Join Jen and Abi as they interview Beth Balliro, a professor and the chair of the art education department at the Massachusetts College of Art and Design. Together, they explore the perception of the TAB approach among art educators, the purpose and structure of preservice teacher education programs, and how TAB can combat the "crisis of small-mindedness" that our students currently face as they practice the "having of ideas".

For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingforartisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior-inc.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB!

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y9pMesyXuVwnPrFEQsK7YARJQJ-HF1jN6hkq2vsJChU/edit?usp=sharing. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org.

Feb 14, 202348:26

S1E9: Meet Catherine Dupras & Pedro Mendonça

Joining Abi and Jen from Quebec, Canada are Pedro Mendonça and Catherine Dupras, the podcast's first international guests! In this episode:

Catherine (a primary school art teacher) shares her unique experience with TAB in a private, all-boys French immersion school
Pedro (a university professor) discusses the challenges that researchers and higher education face as they seek to both establish and expand on scholarly research related to TAB pedagogy and practice
Both talk about the importance of collaboration in the classroom, among colleagues, and in academic research, as well as the critical role partnerships will play in advancing TAB in the world of pre-service teacher education programs.

In the interview, Pedro mentioned an article about TAB he authored with professor Catherine Nadon. Here is the link to that article (in French): http://revuevision.ca/lapproche-tab/

For more information about TAB, please visit the TAB website: www.teachingforartisticbehavior.org. Also, you are invited to join us on Mighty Networks (https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior-inc.mn.com/), an online platform dedicated to everything TAB!

Here is a link to the unedited transcript of this episode: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VMaqpdunWF8JRZdwT5ecM070aOdoTwFu/view?usp=sharing. We recognize that there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so, please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org.

Jan 28, 202351:18

TAB Storytellers: Live from Denver!

***Warning: this episode contains some explicit language.***

Jen and Abi delivered the keynote address at Colorado TAB's annual conference held at the Denver Art Museum on January 13, 2023. The conference theme was [re]TAB, using the prefix "re" to encompass all things (reconnection, rebirth, renewal, reinvigoration, etc.) that the TAB community is currently facing. Within this theme, Jen and Abi's keynote address focused on the past, present, and future of TAB.

Afterward, they held a roundtable to answer questions and facilitate further discussion related to their keynote. This is the impromptu recording from that roundtable Q & A.

This is their first (and most likely last) live episode. Enjoy, and apologies for the crummy audio and lack of a transcription!

Jan 22, 202301:35:50

S1E8: Meet Marc Holland

Welcome to the 8th TAB Storytellers TABcast! Join hosts Jen Ferrari (she/her) and Abi Paytoe Gbayee (she/her) as we interview Marc Holland, the chair and professor of the studio foundation program at MassArt, in Boston, Massachusetts. Marc is also a parent of a student in Jen’s classroom, so we will talk about TAB from two lenses. Join us for a great conversation!

For more information about TAB start here - www.teachingforartisticbehavior.org and join us on MightyNetworks by requesting to join through this page https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior-inc.mn.com/

Here is an unedited transcript taken from the auto transcript feature of Zoom, we recognize there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OtZ4PxzATNgX-mfIE1LHgayJX-4aOrbNObDfCPI41t0/edit?usp=sharing

Dec 14, 202255:49

S1E7: Meet James Wells

Welcome to Episode 7 of TAB Storytellers! Join hosts Jen Ferrari (she/her) and Abi Paytoe Gbayee (she/her) as we interview James Wells (he/his), Education Manager at Crayola. James tells us his TAB story, his creative vision for today’s youth, how TAB supports the development of 21st-century learners, and about the powerful role TAB will play in the future of art education.

For more information about TAB, start here: www.teachingforartisticbehavior.org
Join us on MightyNetworks by requesting to join here: https://teaching-for-artistic-behavior-inc.mn.com/
Link to “Crayola Creativity Week” in January, which James mentioned in his interview: https://creativity-week.squarespace.com/
The unedited transcript which follows is taken from the auto transcript feature of Zoom. We recognize there are probably errors and grammatical issues. If anyone with the time or inclination to edit this wants to do so please email us at storytellers@teachingforartisticbehavior.org: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1g8qX2bRP-DgvDyA1g7g5GWJHDIxhSbqE/view?usp=sharing

Nov 23, 202246:28

S1E6: Meet Jean Barnett

Welcome to the 6th TAB Storytellers TABcast! Join hosts Jen Ferrari (she/her) and Abi Paytoe Gbayee (she/her) as we interview Jean Barnett, a leader in the Texas TAB community and a high school TAB teacher. Jean tells us her TAB story, shares what it is like to work with a teaching partner who is not TAB, how TAB can function in a single media classroom, and some of her go to resources.

Here is the link to the Ian Sands “Nine” Jean mentioned in her interview. It is a collection of nine major themes which can help support students as they become the artists in their studio classrooms - https://artofsouthb.weebly.com/the-nine.html

Oct 18, 202243:53

S1E5: Meet Kelly Beach

Welcome to the 5th TAB Storytellers TABcast! Join hosts Jen Ferrari (she/her) and Abi Paytoe Gbayee (she/her) as we interview Kelly Beach, a middle school TAB teacher in Colorado and one of the TAB Colorado leaders. Kelly tells us his TAB story, how he implements digital art into his TAB classroom, and more about TAB Colorado.