
The Fire These Times
By Elia Ayoub
It is a part of the From The Periphery Media Collective. To support: www.patreon.com/fromtheperiphery


196/ The Wars Within the War on Gaza w/ Maram Humaid (Part 2)
Palestinian journalist Maram Humaid joins us from Gaza to talk about the many layers of Israel’s genocide, the everyday of those trying to survive it.
This is part 2 of the episode with Elia Ayoub and israa'. It is already available in full on Patreon for free.
More:
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
For more:
Elia Ayoub is on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and blogs at Hauntologies.net
israa' is on Bluesky
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, Instagram and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Credits:
Elia Ayoub (host, producer, episode design), israa' (host), Ayman Makarem (producer, sound editor), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics).

195/ The Wars Within the War on Gaza w/ Maram Humaid (Part 1)
Palestinian journalist Maram Humaid joins us from Gaza to talk about the many layers of Israel’s genocide, the everyday of those trying to survive it.
This is part 1 of the episode with Elia Ayoub and israa'. It is already available in full on Patreon for free.
More:
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
For more:
Elia Ayoub is on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and blogs at Hauntologies.net
israa' is on Bluesky
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, Instagram and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Credits:
Elia Ayoub (host, producer, episode design), israa' (host), Ayman Makarem (producer, sound editor), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics).

194/ Holocaust Studies and the Gaza Genocide w/ Amos Goldberg (Part 2)
For episode 194, Elia Ayoub is joined by Amos Goldberg, Professor of Holocaust History at the Department of Jewish History and Contemporary Jewry at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Goldberg is among the most vocal Israeli historians of the Holocaust to have called Israel’s actions in Gaza genocide. In 2024, he wrote a paper for the Journal of Genocide Research on the question of intent, which we explored in part 1.
In this episode, the second part of their conversation, they get into the crisis within Holocaust and Genocide Studies since the start of the Gaza genocide.
In the last segment, they spoke about “The Holocaust and the Nakba: A New Grammar of Trauma and History”, which Goldberg co-edited, and argue for the necessity of new horizons in our imaginaries.
The full, uninterrupted episode is available for free on Patreon.
Articles by Goldberg:
Le Monde: 'What is happening in Gaza is a genocide because Gaza does not exist anymore'
Haaretz: There's No Auschwitz in Gaza. But It's Still Genocide.
Books by Goldberg:
Other Links:
Elia’s newsletter Hauntologies includes articles on “the Ghosts of Israel’s Futures”
Lee Mordechai: Witnessing the Gaza War
The Fire These Times: The Holocaust, the Nakba and Reparative Memory with Daniel Voskoboynik
The Fire These Times: Remembering the Nakba, Imagining the Future w/ Dana El Kurd
- Read Abubaker Abed’s “The Unbearable Pain of Leaving Gaza”
- Follow Bisan Owda on Instagram
For more:
Elia Ayoub is on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and blogs at Hauntologies.net
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, Instagram and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Credits:
Elia Ayoub (host, producer, sound editor, episode design), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics).

193/ Intent and the Gaza Genocide w/ Amos Goldberg (Part 1)
For episode 193, Elia Ayoub is joined by Amos Goldberg, Professor of Holocaust History at the Department of Jewish History and Contemporary Jewry at The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
Goldberg is among the most vocal Israeli historians of the Holocaust to have called Israel’s actions in Gaza genocide. In 2024, he wrote a paper for the Journal of Genocide Research exploring how the question of ‘intent’ is used in discussions around genocides, including the Gaza one. They also get into how genocide is often preceded by claims of self-defense.
The combined two-parter episode is already available on our Patreon for free.
Articles by Goldberg:
Amos Goldberg: 'What is happening in Gaza is a genocide because Gaza does not exist anymore'
Haaretz: There's No Auschwitz in Gaza. But It's Still Genocide.
Books by Goldberg:
Other Links:
Elia’s newsletter Hauntologies includes articles on “the Ghosts of Israel’s Futures”
Lee Mordechai: Witnessing the Gaza War
The Fire These Times: The Holocaust, the Nakba and Reparative Memory with Daniel Voskoboynik
The Fire These Times: Remembering the Nakba, Imagining the Future w/ Dana El Kurd
Read Abubaker Abed’s “The Unbearable Pain of Leaving Gaza”
Follow Bisan Owda on Instagram
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
To support our work and get access to all kinds of perks, please join our Patreon on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
For more:
Elia Ayoub is on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and blogs at Hauntologies.net
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, Instagram and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Credits:
Elia Ayoub (host, producer, sound editor, episode design), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics).

192/ Cracks in the Walls: Global Perspectives on Migration (Part 2)
This is part 2 of the episode. Part 1 was released a few days ago, and you can also listen to the full version for free on our Patreon.
Presented by guest hosts Michelle and Daniel, Cracks in the Walls: Global Perspectives on Migration brings together eight individuals active in migration struggles around the world (Mexico, Haiti, U.S., and Europe) for a discussion on root causes of migration, current and past repression, and, most importantly, impactful approaches to solidarity and resistance.
Participants are:
Michelle (she/her) - Filmmaker/writer, free clinic herbalist/nutritionist, teacher, and activist based in California. www.underexposedfilms.com
Daniel (any pronouns) - A member of the solidarity movement at the Polish-Belarussian border.https://nobordersteam.noblogs.org/ Fundraising: https://zrzutka.pl/rab8e2
Vivianne (she/her) - Activist and Social Work student. Community worker within the Haitian community in México. Haitian Bridge Alliance: https://haitianbridgealliance.org
Diana (she/her) - Mexican Psychologist and activist. Working at Refugee Health Alliance: https://www.instagram.com/alianza_para_la_salud
Edin/Andrea (they/them): Independent artist and rebel. Collaborator with Enclave Rabia Caracol and its various projects. Enclave Caracol: https://www.instagram.com/enclavecaracolAlso: https://www.instagram.com/tijuanacomidanobombas
Marie (she/her) - Activist from Germany within the noborder-movement and civil SAR (Search and Rescue). Links: https://resqship.org/ + https://alarmphone.org/ + https://captainsupport.net
Anne (she/her) - Activist of the Seebrücke and the #FreeHomayoun campaign, based in Switzerland. https://www.freehomayoun.org
Juan Carlos (he/him) - (Translating for Vivianne.) Director of "Tijuana: Ciudad de Migrantes". https://youtu.be/kGjR8_ZVfnA?si=Uk3Aocc56FgJSmxQ
Some ways to act in solidarity with migrants in the U.S.(from an outside source): https://crimethinc.com/2025/02/11/eight-things-you-can-do-to-stop-ice
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
To support our work and get access to all kinds of perks, please join our Patreon on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
For more:
Michelle is on Instagram
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, Instagram and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Credits:
Michelle (host, producer, sound editor), Daniel (host, co-producer, co-editor), Elia Ayoub (episode design), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics). Episode photo taken by Michelle.

192/ Cracks in the Walls: Global Perspectives on Migration (Part 1)
This is part 1 of the episode. Part 2 will be released in a few days, but you can listen to the full version for free on our Patreon.
Presented by guest hosts Michelle and Daniel, Cracks in the Walls: Global Perspectives on Migration brings together eight individuals active in migration struggles around the world (Mexico, Haiti, U.S., and Europe) for a discussion on root causes of migration, current and past repression, and, most importantly, impactful approaches to solidarity and resistance.
Participants are:
Michelle (she/her) - Filmmaker/writer, free clinic herbalist/nutritionist, teacher, and activist based in California. www.underexposedfilms.com
Daniel (any pronouns) - A member of the solidarity movement at the Polish-Belarussian border.https://nobordersteam.noblogs.org/ Fundraising: https://zrzutka.pl/rab8e2
Vivianne (she/her) - Activist and Social Work student. Community worker within the Haitian community in México. Haitian Bridge Alliance: https://haitianbridgealliance.org
Diana (she/her) - Mexican Psychologist and activist. Working at Refugee Health Alliance: https://www.instagram.com/alianza_para_la_salud
Edin/Andrea (they/them): Independent artist and rebel. Collaborator with Enclave Rabia Caracol and its various projects. Enclave Caracol: https://www.instagram.com/enclavecaracolAlso: https://www.instagram.com/tijuanacomidanobombas
Marie (she/her) - Activist from Germany within the noborder-movement and civil SAR (Search and Rescue). Links: https://resqship.org/ + https://alarmphone.org/ + https://captainsupport.net
Anne (she/her) - Activist of the Seebrücke and the #FreeHomayoun campaign, based in Switzerland. https://www.freehomayoun.org
Juan Carlos (he/him) - (Translating for Vivianne.) Director of "Tijuana: Ciudad de Migrantes". https://youtu.be/kGjR8_ZVfnA?si=Uk3Aocc56FgJSmxQ
Some ways to act in solidarity with migrants in the U.S.(from an outside source): https://crimethinc.com/2025/02/11/eight-things-you-can-do-to-stop-ice
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
To support our work and get access to all kinds of perks, please join our Patreon on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
For more:
Michelle is on Instagram
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, Instagram and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Credits:
Michelle (host, producer, sound editor), Daniel (host, co-producer, co-editor), Elia Ayoub (episode design), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics). Episode photo taken by Michelle.

Introducing "Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution"
We got a new podcast! We're happy to announce that Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution (STIR) is now out on Patreon and wherever you listen to podcasts.
In this episode, Leila Al-Shami (Burning Country) and Elia Ayoub (The Fire These Times, Hauntologies) introduce themselves and the podcast.
What is STIR about? From the Assad regime to the Arab Spring and beyond, we will dive into questions of reconstruction, prisoners, the forcibly disappeared, transitional justice, minority rights, women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, environmental politics, culture and more.
STIR is part of the From The Periphery Media Collective. To support all of our projects please head out to Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
STIR is also on Bluesky!
Credits and More:
Leila Al Shami (Host, Lead Researcher). More: Bluesky, Mastodon and her Blog
Elia Ayoub (Host, Producer). More: Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and his Newsletter
Hisham Rifai (Illustration)
Omar Offendum and Sami Matar (Music)

191/ We Are the Children of the Children of War
Elia Ayoub and Lebanese journalist Justin Salhani have one thing in common: their parents lived through the Lebanon wars (1975-1990). Claude Salhani was a well-known photojournalist United Press International and Reuters. The photo featured in this episode shows him in the middle, injured after an Israeli strike on Beirut in 1982. We also talked about a recent gallery of Claude’s photographs published by Al Jazeera.
For this episode of The Fire These Times, and to close off our discussions on the Lebanon wars - check our the recent episode Elia did with Ayman Makarem on our sister podcast ‘From The Periphery Podcast’ - we thought it meaningful to add one more layer: if the wars aren’t really over, where does that leave us, the ‘children of the children of war’?
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
To support our work and get access to all kinds of perks, please join our Patreon on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
Announcement: Justin Salhani is joining the FTP fam! He will be mostly contributing to the From The Periphery Podcast as our Beirut-based correspondent focusing on regional affairs.
For more:
Elia Ayoub is on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and blogs at Hauntologies.net
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, Instagram and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.
Credits:
Elia Ayoub (host, producer, sound editor, episode design), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics).

190/ What Trump Sees in Bukele w/ Michael Paarlberg
For episode 190 of The Fire These Times, Dr. Michael Paarlberg talks to Dana El Kurd about El Salvador’s ‘state of exception’ under Nayib Bukele, how Trump sees that as a model, the conditions of Salvadorian prisons and what happens to the Venezuelan and other refugees and migrants deported from the USA by Trump and the unaccountable state actors doing his bidding.
Paarlberg is associate professor at Virginia Commonwealth University and non-resident fellow at the Institute for Policy Studies. He was previously on TFTT in August of 2024 (episode 164) to talk about how Bukele created a ‘Gang State’ in El Salvador. As that was before Trump’s election, it is a good primer into what is it about El Salvador today that makes it so appealing to the maga movement.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
To get early access to our episodes as well as other perks (monthly hangout, movie club, exclusive content and so on) you can join our patreon at Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
For more:
Dana El Kurd is on Bluesky
Michael Paarlberg is on Bluesky
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, IG and YouTube and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.
Credits: Dana El Kurd (host), Elia Ayoub (producer, episode designer), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics).

189/ Doikayt ('Hereness') Now! w/ Molly Crabapple
For episode 189 of The Fire These Times, Elia Ayoub is joined by friend of the pod Molly Crabapple to talk about the Jewish Labor Bund and how their concept of Doikayt (‘Hereness’) can help us build a better world than the hellscape being proposed by techno-dystopianism and end-time fascism. Molly’s upcoming book is called “here where we live is our country: the story of the jewish labor bund.”
Speaking of end-time fascism, Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor will be joining Elia and Dana El Kurd on TFTT to talk about their essay “The rise of end times fascism.”
To get early access to that episode as well as other perks (monthly hangout, movie club, exclusive content and so on) you can join our patreon on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
For more:
Elia Ayoub is on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and blogs at Hauntologies.net
Molly has a website and newsletter
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, IG and YouTube and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.
Credits:
Elia Ayoub (host, producer, sound editor, episode design), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics). Molly’s portrait on the cover photo is also done by her.

188/ Revolutionary Aid in Sudan w/ Eiad Husham
How did Sudanese revolutionaries organize neighborhood and resistance committees to resist state and non-state violence? What are some of the principles underpinning their worldview? What can we learn from them?
For episode 188 of The Fire These Times, Elia Ayoub is joined by Sudanese journalist Eiad Husham to talk about his piece "revolutionary aid in Sudan" for The New Internationalist and try and answer those questions.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. This episode was first released on the FTP Patreon page. Please consider supporting us directly there and you'll get early access to all of the FTP podcasts, exclusive content, an invitation to join our monthly hangout as well as our ongoing movie club on Lebanese cinema - and more!
You can also help by leaving us a review wherever you listen to podcasts and telling your friends and enemies about us.
Other FTP projects: From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
For more:
Elia Ayoub is on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and blogs at Hauntologies.net
Eiad is on X and writes for The Internationalist, The New Humanitarian, Geeska and 3ayin among others.
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, IG and YouTube and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.
Credits:
Elia Ayoub (host, producer, sound editor, episode design), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics).
Original photo by Ela Yokes for The New Internationalist.

Announcement - Lebanese Films Screenings
This is a special announcement episode broadcast on all FTP channels.
We at FTP are hosting a series of weekly film screenings and discussions on the Lebanese wars starting this Sunday April 20.
In this short episode, Elia and Ayman go through the list of films they selected, what you can expect from the screenings, and how you can participate.
To sign up and join the watch parties head over to our Patreon where you'll find this post with the invitation link.
Invites are immediately available to all Patreon members. If you don't want to become a member, you can buy the link with a one-time purchase.
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All the films (except the last) are already publicly available on this playlist on our Youtube Channel.
The films we'll watch are:
A Feeling Greater than Love (2017) dir. Mary Jirmanus Saba
- A feature-length documentary about the class struggle and labour movements in the lead up to the outbreak of the war in 1975.
Lebanon's War - Part 3: Explosion (2001)
- A 42 minute episode of a documentary series by Al-Jazeera on the Lebanon Wars that covers in great depth the 1975 outbreak of the civil war with incredible, rare interviews.
Beirut, My City (1983) dir. Jocelyne Saab
- A 38 minute film by a legendary Lebanese filmmaker filmed in Beirut amidst the Israeli siege that serves as a timeless intimate meditation on a city tortured by war and occupation.
Souha, Surviving Hell (2001) dir. Randa Chahal Sabagh
- A 57 minute documentary following communist resistance fighter South Bechara as she returns to the south of Lebanon after its liberation from Israeli occupation in 2000.
Last Days of the Man of Tomorrow (2017) dir. Fadz
- A short film that serves as a brilliant, illuminating, and humorous retrospective on the war by the post-war generation.
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Hope to see you at the film screenings! Here again is the link to sign up.

Hauntologies 5/ Restorative vs Reflective Nostalgia
Elia reads and comments on his essay "Restorative vs reflective nostalgia" for Hauntologies.net
The Hauntologies Podcast is a production of From The Periphery and part of The Fire These Times podcast.
A newsletter version exists at hauntologies.net but most recordings will be for Patreon supporters only.
To support us, please head out to Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery to subscribe.
For More:
Elia is on Bluesky, Mastodon and Instagram
From the Periphery is on Bluesky and Instagram
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky and Instagram
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!

187/ Round table: Where are the Arabs? Part 2
Our very own Ayman Makarem released his new video essay ‘Where Are the Arabs?’ on March 9, 2025.
In this round table, he is joined by Elia and israa to expand on the topics discussed in the video, the context around it, and the need for more intellectual and class-based analysis on Arab nationalism and its many manifestations. If you haven’t watched the video yet you’ll still be able to follow this episode since Ayman provides a brief overview of the main themes. If you have watched the video, there are some key additions and interventions made by all 3 hosts that explore the themes of the video deeper.
This is part 2 of that discussion, first published on Patreon.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: the (newly aired!) Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
You can support us on Patreon. You’ll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join our monthly hangouts, and more.
For more:
Ayman Makarem is on Bluesky and Instagram
Elia Ayoub is on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and blogs at Hauntologies.net
Israa is on Bluesky
The Fire These Times is on IG and YouTube and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.
Credits:
Ayman Makarem (host, producer, sound editor), Elia Ayoub (host), Israa (host), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (original TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design), Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics), Elia Ayoub (episode design).
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti and israa abd elfattah.
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

186/ Round table: Where are the Arabs? Part 1
Our very own Ayman Makarem released his new video essay ‘Where Are the Arabs?’ on March 9, 2025.
In this round table, he is joined by Elia and israa to expand on the topics discussed in the video, the context around it, and the need for more intellectual and class-based analysis on Arab nationalism and its many manifestations. If you haven’t watched the video yet you’ll still be able to follow this episode since Ayman provides a brief overview of the main themes. If you have watched the video, there are some key additions and interventions made by all 3 hosts that explore the themes of the video deeper. This is part 1 of the discussion. Part 2 will be released next week.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: the (newly aired!) Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
You can support us on Patreon. You’ll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join our monthly hangouts, and more.
For more:
Ayman Makarem is on Bluesky and Instagram
Elia Ayoub is on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and blogs at Hauntologies.net
Israa is on Bluesky
The Fire These Times is on IG and YouTube and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.
Credits:
Ayman Makarem (host, producer, sound editor), Elia Ayoub (host), Israa (host), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (original TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design), Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics), Elia Ayoub (episode design).
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti and israa abd elfattah.
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

185/ What Ukraine Faces w/ Romeo Kokriatski
For episode 185, Elia Ayoub is joined by Ukrainian journalist and repeated guest Romeo Kokriatski to talk about the recent developments in Ukraine, especially in light of the Trump administration's open intentions to shift USA support from Ukraine to Russia, and what this means for Ukraine, Europe and the USA.
As this episode is time-sensitive we are releasing it on Patreon and publicly at the same time. Comments are for Patreons only.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: the (newly aired!) Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
How to Support: on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts. You’ll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join our monthly hangouts, and more.
For more:
Elia Ayoub is on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and blogs at Hauntologies.net
Romeo Kokriatski is on Bluesky, co-hosts the Ukraine Without Hype and Radio Free America podcasts, and is a Managing Editor of New Voice Ukraine.
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, IG and YouTube and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.
Credits:
Elia Ayoub (host, producer, episode design), Romeo Kokriatski (guest), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (original TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design), Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics), Elliott Miskovicz (sound editor, producer).
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti and israa abd elfattah.
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

184/ Öcalan's Statement and the Future of the PKK w/ Dîlan
On Feb 27, Abdullah Öcalan, the long-time jailed leader of the PKK (Kurdish Worker’s Party), released a statement that shocked many. In the statement he called for the PKK to lay down their arms, which could spell the end of the 40-year long armed struggle against the Turkish state, and for the creation of a legal, diplomatic framework to ensure inclusion, rights, and dignity for the Kurdish communities within a democratic Turkish nation.
In this episode, Ayman Makarem, Israa, and Karena Avedissian are joined by Dîlan who provides a thorough overview of the present moment, situates it within the longer history of the Kurdish struggle, and explores analysis of what this all means - for Kurds and other communities across the WANA region.
As this episode is time-sensitive we are releasing it on Patreon and publicly at the same time.
Dîlan is a reluctant academic and tired organizer. She is interested in alternative historiographies, feminist methodologies, and memory. She considers herself an equal-opportunity hater regarding states and authoritarian power structures, and is a dedicated skeptic of reactionary tendencies in both organizing and academic spheres.
Links:
- https://wjas.org/en/the-foundation/
- https://nudemorg.com/support/
- https://rojavainformationcenter.org/donate/
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: the (newly aired!) Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
How to Support: on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts. You’ll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join our monthly hangouts, and more.
For more:
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Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.
Credits:
Ayman Makarem (host, producer, sound editor), Karena Avidissian (host), Israa (host), Dîlan (guest), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (original TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design), Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics), Elia Ayoub (episode design).
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti and israa abd elfattah.
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

Our Plans for 2025
What we hope to achieve this year.
Mentioned:
The monthly hangout is open to all Patreon supporters, guests and hosts.Join us!
The email:ayoub@thefirethesetimes.com
The Inconvenient Revolution is an upcoming podcast by Leila Al-Shami and Elia Ayoub on Syria. All episodes will be first available on ourPatreon
The Mutual Aid Podcast is already available wherever you listen to podcasts. They are also onBluesky andIG. All episodes are first available on ourPatreon
Obscuristan is already available wherever you listen to podcasts. All episodes are first available on ourPatreon.
Ayman's video essays are available first on Patreon and then on YouTube. The first episode is entitled 'Zionism from the Standpoint of its Victims' and is already on YouTube. The second episode is entitled 'Where are the Arabs?' and is available onPatreon.
Ayman's live streams are on the From The PeripheryYouTube channel.
The upcoming Star Trek podcast (not FTP-related) is by Elia Ayoub and carla joy berman. It will be announced on their social media accounts soon. The TFTT episode with carla is entitled "Let’s Talk About Youth Autonomy w/ carla joy bergman" and is episode number 132.
carla joy berman can be found ontheir website and onBluesky. Check out their podcastGrounded Futures and the journal they're part of,CAW: "a worker-run anarchist journal of art, culture, and all the shiny things we can find."

TFTT x Obscuristan: Navalny, A Year Later
In this special collab episode betweenObscuristan and The Fire These Times, Karena Avedissian and Anna are joined by Daniel Voskoboynik to discuss the life of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny and what his death means for those of us not quite at the heart of the Russian empire.
Obscuristan and The Fire These Times are proud members of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: the Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, andAntidote Zine. To support FTP please head out toPatreon.
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done byAntidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times’ transcript archive.
For more:
Karena Avedissian is onBluesky
Obscuristan is onInstagram
Daniel Voskoboynik is onBluesky and has anewsletter and awebsite
The Fire These Times is onBluesky,IG and YouTube and has awebsite
From The Periphery is onPatreon,Bluesky,YouTube,Instagram, and has awebsite
Credits:
Hosts: Karena Avedissian and Anna | Guest: Daniel Voskoboynik | Music: Sarven Yapar | TFTT theme design:Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design:Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Anna | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub | Producers: Elia Ayoub and Anna
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed underAttribution-NonCommercial-Share Alike 4.0 International

Black History Month Special: Black Anarchism, Abolition and the Radical Tradition w/ William C. Anderson
This is a conversation withWilliam C. Anderson, author of the bookThe Nation on No Map (AK Press 2021) and co-author ofAs Black as Resistance (AK Press 2018). He’s also the co-founder ofOffshoot Journal and provides creative direction as a producer of theBlack Autonomy Podcast.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: the Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, andAntidote Zine. To support FTP please head toPatreon.
For more:
William C Anderson has awebsite
Elia Ayoub is onMastodon,IG,Bluesky, and he hasa newsletter
The Fire These Times is onIG and YouTube and has awebsite
From The Periphery is onPatreon,YouTube,Instagram, and has awebsite
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done byAntidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times’ transcript archive.
Credits:
Host: Elia Ayoub | Guest: William C Anderson | Music:Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design:Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design:Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub | Producer: Elliott Miskovicz and Elia Ayoub
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed underAttribution-NonCommercial-Share Alike 4.0 International

Hauntologies 4/ Punishing the Land
Elia reads and comments on his essay "Punishing the land: Israeli symbolism during the Gaza genocide" for Hauntologies.net He was also on Al Jazeera to talk about how the Israelis mark the lands they destroy (link in the newsletter).
The Hauntologies Podcast is a production of From The Periphery and part of The Fire These Times podcast. A newsletter version exists at hauntologies.net. To support us, please head out to Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery to subscribe. You are free to republish and translate the text and audio as long as you credit us with the appropriate patreon link.
For More:
Elia is on Bluesky, Mastodon and Instagram
From the Periphery is on Bluesky and Instagram
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky and Instagram
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!

Hauntologies 3/ Lebanon's Lost Communist Future
Elia Ayoub goes into his essay for hauntologies.net in which he asks: what does it mean to lose the future?
The film explored is Maher Abi Samra's 'We Were Communists' (2011). It will be part of our upcoming movie club on the patreon.
The Hauntologies Podcast is a production of From The Periphery and part of The Fire These Times podcast. A newsletter version exists at hauntologies.net. To support us, please head out to Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery to subscribe. You are free to republish and translate the text and audio as long as you credit us with the appropriate patreon link.
For More:
Elia is on Bluesky, Mastodon and Instagram
From the Periphery is on Bluesky and Instagram
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky and Instagram
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!

Video Essay Announcement
It's finally happening. Ayman has finished his new video essay 'Where are the Arabs?'.
'Where are the Arabs?' is a long-form video essay about the history, failures, and nostalgia of Arab Nationalism. It's one Arab leftist's attempt to sift through this trend, see its remnant today, nd dispell its myths. Today, there is no Arab solidarity in action. But was there ever? I explore this question and many more over 1h 15m, with clips from a broad range of Arab leftist intellectuals.
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There's a live drop happening on Patreon on Sunday 26th at 8pm CET. I'll be in the live chat. Join me!
Free for members, available for one-time purchase for anyone else!
Here's a Youtube link to Ayman's first video essay, released a few months ago
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Hauntologies 2/ This Moment. Or, Why I Cannot Mourn Gaza
Elia Ayoub reads from his Hauntologies.net piece "This Moment. Or, Why I Cannot Mourn Gaza" which is available for free.
The Hauntologies Podcast is a production of From The Periphery and part of The Fire These Times podcast. A newsletter version exists at hauntologies.net. To support us, please head out to Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery to subscribe. You are free to republish and translate the text and audio as long as you credit us with the appropriate patreon link.
For More:
Elia is on Bluesky, Mastodon and Instagram
From the Periphery is on Bluesky and Instagram
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky and Instagram
If you are on Apple Podcasts: We recommend subscribing via Patreon instead of Apple's FTP Premium as it is a friendlier option to creators. Go to the website, subscribe there and use the RSS feed to listen on your iPhones.
If you are a paid subscriber to Hauntologies.net you will have the same audio as part of the regular newsletter, so you won't have to pay twice to get access to these.
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!

183/ Making Home in Exile: Stories from the New Syrian Diaspora w/ Wendy Pearlman
For episode 183, Leila and Elia are joined by Wendy Pearlman to discuss her newest book,The Home I Worked to Make: Voices from the New Syrian Diaspora as well as her previous bookWe Crossed a Bridge and Trembled.
Note that we recorded this episode on November 9, 2024 – just weeks prior to the ousting of the Assad regime. As such, a few small details of the conversation are now ‘outdated’, however the conversation we had and Wendy’s books still remain extremely relevant and important to understanding the Syrian revolution, war, and its present day.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: the (newly aired!)Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, andAntidote Zine. To support FTP please head toPatreon.
From The Periphery is onYouTube,Bluesky,Instagram, and has awebsite
Mentioned in this episode:
The Home I Worked to Make: Voices from the New Syrian Diaspora by Wendy Pearlman
We Crossed a Bridge and Trembled by Wendy Pearlman
Burning Country: Syrians in Revolution and War by Leila Al-Shami and Robin Yassin-Kassab
Nostalgia by Svetlana Boym
Resilient: Broken by Elia Ayoub
Syrian Association for Citizens' Dignity for reports on Syrian refugees, forced returns to Syria, and other stories and analyses of the Syrian political context
From the Periphery’s newly releasedMutual Aid Podcast
For more:
Elia Ayoub is onMastodon,IG,Bluesky, and he hasa newsletter
From The Periphery is onPatreon,YouTube,Bluesky,Instagram, and has awebsite
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done byAntidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.
Credits:
Hosts: Leila Al-Shami, Elia Ayoub | Guest: Wendy Pearlman | Music:Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design:Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design:Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Kaylee | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Aydın Yıldız | Producer: Aydın Yıldız
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed underAttribution-NonCommercial-Share Alike 4.0 International

182/ Our Mirror Worlds w/ Naomi Klein
For episode 182, Elia, Anna, and Dana are joined by author, scholar, and activist Naomi Klein to discuss her most recent book, Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World, and the myriad connections her analysis of the cultural rise of fascism has to our work at From the Periphery.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: the (newly aired!) Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
For more:
Naomi Klein has a website, a newsletter, and is on Instagram and Bluesky
Elia Ayoub is on Mastodon, Instagram, and Bluesky, and he has a newsletter
Anna's podcast is Obscuristan which is part of the From The Periphery Media Collective
Dana El Kurd is on Bluesky
The Fire These Times is on IG and YouTube and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter and has a website
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.
Credits:
Hosts: Elia Ayoub, Anna M, Dana El Kurd | Guest: Naomi Klein | Music: Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design: Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Kaylee | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub | Producer: Aydın Yıldız
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International
Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities, employers, or other affiliations the speakers may have.

Hauntologies 1/ Merry Christmas Homs
Elia Ayoub reads from his newsletter piece "Merry Christmas Homs: Tribute to Bassel Shehadeh's Last City" which is available for free. It is a reference to a short film directed by Bassel during Christmas 2011 in Homs under heavy shelling by the Assad regime. You can watch it on YouTube.
Trigger warning: this audio features some sounds from the original film, including airstrikes. They come right after Elia says 'at times getting closer' at around 1:25 seconds. Skip to 1:59 to avoid them.
As this is time sensitive, it is released on the public feed shortly after the Patreon. If you're seeing this from the public feed, please consider joining our Patreon to support this podcast as well as all the other podcasts by FTP.
Follow Wafa Mustafa on Instagram to get updates on her ongoing search for her father, Ali Mustafa.
Quick announcement: Elia and Leila Al-Shami are going to launch a new podcast called The Inconvenient Revolution focusing on Syrian history between 2011 and 2024. From the Periphery (FTP) Patreon subscribers will get all episodes before the general public.
The Hauntologies Podcast is a production of From The Periphery and part of The Fire These Times podcast. A newsletter version exists at hauntologies.net. To support us, please head out to Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery to subscribe. You are free to republish and translate the text and audio as long as you credit us with the appropriate patreon link.
For More:
Elia is on Bluesky, Mastodon and Instagram
From the Periphery is on Bluesky and Instagram
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky and Instagram
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

181/ Don't Despair, We Got This w/ Margaret Killjoy
For episode 181, Elia Ayoub is joined by Margaret Killjoy to talk about her piece "The Sky is Falling; We've Got This" published on her newsletter. We recorded this shortly after Trump was announced as the winner of the US elections and many people were feeling despair, understandably so.
Check out Margaret's new book and first novel "The Sapling Cage" with Feminist Press!
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
To get early access to our episodes as well as other perks (monthly hangout, movie club, exclusive content and so on) you can join our patreon on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
For more:
Margaret is on Instagram and Bluesky. She has a website and a newsletter.
Elia is on Bluesky, Mastodon, IG. He has a newsletter and a website.
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, IG and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times’ transcript archive.
Credits:
Elia Ayoub (host, episode designer, producer), Elliott Miskovicz (sound editor), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics).

180/ The Golan Heights, Syria and Palestine’s Intertwined Liberations w/ Banah Ghadbian
For episode 180, Leila Al-Shami and Elia Ayoub are joined by Dr Banah Ghadbian to talk about her piece "Give Us Our Land Back: The Golan Heights, Greenwashing, Syria and Palestine’s Intertwined Revolutions" published on Spectre Journal.
We spoke of the importance of the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights in the liberation of both Palestine and Syria. This was recorded before the fall of the Assad dynasty in Syria. Since then, Israel has already taken steps to occupy more of Syrian territory in the Golan Heights, making Banah's arguments about how Syria and Palestine's freedoms are intertwined even more pertinent.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
To get early access to our episodes as well as other perks (monthly hangout, movie club, exclusive content and so on) you can join our patreon on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
For more:
Listen to the previous episode with Banah on TFTT: 78/ Pedagogies of Liberation, Gender and the Syrian Revolution
Elia is on Bluesky, Mastodon, IG. He has a newsletter and a website.
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, IG and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times’ transcript archive.
Credits:
Leila Al Shami (host), Elia Ayoub (host, episode designer), Ayman Makarem (producer, sound editor), Elia Ayoub (episode design), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics).

179/ Lebanon: What Now? w/ Mohamad Bazzi
For episode 179, Beirut-based journalist Justin Salhani is joined with New York University professor and journalist Mohamad Bazzi to talk about the situation in Lebanon before and after the ceasefire with Israel.
For more:
Follow The Fire These Times on IG and YouTube
From The Periphery is on YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
More links:
Books recommended by Bazzi:
Rashid Khalidi 100 years war
Fawaz Traboulsi A History of Modern Lebanon
David Hirst Beware of Small States
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
To get early access to our episodes as well as other perks (monthly hangout, movie club, exclusive content and so on) you can join our patreon on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
For more:
Justin Salhani is on Bluesky
Mohamad Bazzi is on Bluesky
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, IG and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times’ transcript archive.
Credits:
Justin Salhani (host), Ayman Makarem (producer, sound editor), Elia Ayoub (episode design), Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics).

178/ Roundtable on Syria
A lot has happened over the last week in Syria, so we figured we'd gather together, as members of From the Periphery, to discuss the latest developments and provide a historical and political background to help understand the current moment. We discuss a broad range of topics starting with an overview of the what's happened in the last week or so, including: the origins of the Syrian revolution, the counter-revolutionary war, the abuses and crimes of the Assad regime, foreign interventions and regional factors, descriptions of groups such as HTS (Hayat Tahrir al Sham) and SNA (Syria National Army), Kurdish movements and the concerns of ethnic/religious minorities, the racist tankie 'take' industry, and the connections between liberatory movements for Palestine and Syria. We cover a lot but of course we couldn't do everything justice. We will provide links below for further resources, but also plan on doing more episodes in the near future on all these topics as things develop and progress.
You can support us on Patreon. You’ll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join our monthly hangouts, and more.
For more:
Elia Ayoub is on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram and blogs at Hauntologies.net
Leila Al-Shami on Mastodon and Bluesky
Ayman Makarem is on Bluesky
Karena Avedissian is on Bluesky
The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, IG and has a website
From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast, Politically Depressed, Obscuristan, and Antidote Zine.
Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by Antidote Zine and will be published on The Fire These Times' transcript archive.
Credits:
Elia Ayoub (host, episode design), Leila Al Shami (host), Ayman Makarem (host, producer, sound editor), Karena Avedissian, Rap and Revenge (Music), Wenyi Geng (TFTT theme design), Hisham Rifai (FTP theme design) and Molly Crabapple (FTP team profile pics).

177/ Mutual Aid in Lebanon Today w/ Serge and Abir
For episode 177, Leila is joined by Serge from Buzuruna Juzuruna, an agro-ecological farm and heirloom seed producer in the Bekka Valley working on food autonomy, and Abir from Hostel Beirut, a worker owned cooperative in the heart of the Lebanese capital committed to social and economic justice for all. We talk about the current situation in Lebanon following the Israeli invasion, the mutual aid initiatives both guests are involved in during the current crisis, and what international solidarity looks like in their context.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective.
How to Support: on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts. You’ll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join our monthly hangouts, and more.
Transcriptions: Transcriptions will be by Antidote Zine and published on this website.
Episode links:
Lebanon Solidarity Collective/Buzuruna Juzuruna fundraiser (in French)
Mutual Aid Lebanon (From the Periphery)
For more:
From The Periphery is on YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
Check out Leila’s blog
Credits:
Host: Leila Al-Shami | Guests: Abir & Serge | Music: Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design: Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Ayman Makarem| Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub | Producers: Leila Al-Shami & Aydın Yıldız
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

Rerun/ Commoning in Lebanon’s Palestinian Refugee Camps w/ Yafa El Masri
In this rerun of episode 131, Elia is joined by Dr Yafa El Masri to talk about her paper “72 Years of Homemaking in Waiting Zones: Lebanon’s “Permanently Temporary” Palestinian Refugee Camps” which she presented at the 2022 Pluriverse of Eco-social Justice summer school in Coimbra, Portugal, where we met.
Dr El Masri spoke from first hand experience of commoning in "permanently temporary" spaces as she is herself a Palestinian refugee who was born and raised in Borj El Brajneh refugee camp in Beirut's southern suburbs.
Mentions and Recommendations:
A Paradise Built in Hell: The Extraordinary Communities That Arise in Disaster by Rebecca Sornit
Eleven Lives: Stories from Palestinian Exiles edited by Muhammad Ali Khalidi
The Ungrateful Refugee: What Immigrants Never Tell You by Dina Nayeri
Placeless People: Writings, Rights, and Refugees by Lyndsey Stonebridge
Orwell’s Roses by Rebecca Sornit
Credits:
Host(s): Elia Ayoub | Guest (s): Yafa El Masri | Music: Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design: Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub

176/ American Neocons, Christian Zionists & Israeli Fascism w/ Atalia Omer
For episode 176, Dana El Kurd is joined by Atalia Omer, professor of Religion, Conflict and Peace Studies, University of Notre Dame to discuss her work on the convergences between American neoconservatism, Christian Zionism, and Israeli politics, as well as how attacking Palestine is being used to advance right-wing politics around the world. Omer discusses the impact of American right-wing politics on knowledge production and the study of Palestine, the Israeli Kahanist far right, and broader trends of Israeli violence.
The Fire These Times (TFTT) is part of the From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. To support our work, please head out to Patreon and get early access to all podcasts, an invite to join our monthly hangout, exclusive content, and more.
Books by Atalia -
- Decolonizing Religion and Peacebuilding
- When Peace Is Not Enough: How the Israeli Peace Camp Thinks about Religion, Nationalism, and Justice
- Days of Awe: Reimagining Jewishness in Solidarity with Palestinians
Transcriptions: Transcriptions will be by Antidotezine and published on The Fire These Times.
Credits:
Host(s): Dana El Kurd | Guest: Atalia Omer | Music: Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design: Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

The Mutual Aid Podcast: Ep #1 - Introductions
In lieu of an episode this week, we're pleased to announce a new podcast within the From the Periphery network. We'll return to regular TFTT releases next week.
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Welcome to The Mutual Aid Podcast. Join Ayman and israa every week as they discuss, share, and explore all things mutual aid. In this intro episode they talk about the reasons they started this project, what the project even is, and their experience, history, and positionally with mutual aid in general. They also discuss what you can expect from this project in the future and the necessity to take discussions of mutual aid more seriously, especially as the systems around us face collapse and crisis.
Gaza Relief Mutual Aid
https://www.instagram.com/ibrahimforgazamutualaid/
https://www.liberationthrumutualaid.com
Queer Mutual Aid Lebanon
https://www.patreon.com/qmalebanon
References:
https://www.thepublicsource.org/charity-mutual-aid
Peter Kropotkin - Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution
Dean Spade - Mutual Aid: Building Solidarity During this Crisis (and the Next)
David Graeber - Debt: The First 5000 Years
Support this podcast:
https://www.patreon.com/fromtheperiphery
Credits:
Artwork - Hisham Rifai
Music - Beit Youssef and Ramsey Khudairi
Hosts - israa and Ayman

175/ Beekeeping in the End Times w/ Larisa Jašarević
For episode 175, Elia Ayoub and Anna (co-host of Obscuristan) are joined by Larisa Jašarević to talk about her new book “Beekeeping in the End Times.” They delve into bees and Abrahamic faiths, climate change, folk tradition, and above all how we can all be connecting to the natural world while still remaining rooted in ourselves and our lives.
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Transcriptions: Transcriptions will be by Antidotezine and published on The Fire These Times.
Pluggables:
- The Fire These Times is on Bluesky, IG and has a website
- From The Periphery is on Patreon, Bluesky, YouTube, Instagram, and has a website
- Elia Ayoub is on Mastodon, Instagram, and Bluesky, and he has a newsletter
- Anna's podcast is Obscuristan which is part of the From The Periphery Media Collective
Credits:
Host(s): Elia Ayoub & Anna | Guest: Larisa Jašarević | Music: Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design: Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

174/ Lebanon From 1860 to the Present Day
For episode 174, Elia and Ayman sit down to talk about Lebanon. As our little country is in the news for all the worst reasons, we thought it a good idea to give y'all an overview of Lebanese history.
Materials Mentioned:
Books
A History of Modern Lebanon - Fawwaz Traboulsi
Banking on The State - Hisham Safieddine
Sextarianism - Maya Mikdashi
Films
Safar Barlek (1967) - Rahbani Brothers + Fairouz
Ila Ein (Where to?) (1957) - dir. George Nasser
Hail Walid Jumblatt (1977) - dir. Maroun Baghdadi
The Lebanese Civil War (2001) (15-part Documentary - Full Playlist on FTP Youtube Channel)
West Beirut (1998) - dir. Ziad Doueri
Podcast
TFTT Episode 85 - The Legacy of the Great Lebanon Famine (w/ Lina Mounzer and Timour Azhari)
PolDep Episode 11 - Community of Grief (w/ Lina Mounzer)
Transcriptions: Transcriptions will be by Antidotezine and published on The Fire These Times.
Pluggables:
From The Periphery is on Patreon, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter and has a website
Elia Ayoub is on Mastodon, Instagram, and Bluesky, and he has a newsletter.
Politically Depressed is on Instagram
Credits:
Host(s): Elia Ayoub & Ayman Makarem | Music: Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design: Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Hazel Henry Audio | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, and israa abd elfattah.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective.

173/ This Arab is Queer w/Elias Jahshan
For episode 173, Elias Jahshan joins Elia Ayoub, israa abd elfattah and Leila Al-Shami to talk about "This Arab Is Queer" anthology, which he edited and was published by Saqi Books in 2022.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. How to Support: on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts. You'll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join our monthly hangouts, and more.
Episode Links:
- Elias' articles at Gay Times
- TIMEP Q&A with Elias
- What is Pinkwashing? co-authored by Elias Jahshan and Hayfaa Chalabi for Shado Mag
- Elias' articles at Star Observer
- Elias' articles at The New Arab
Check out
- Our first video essay on YouTube by Ayman Makarem: Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims and subscribe to our channel
- Elia Ayoub's newsletter Hauntologies.net
Transcriptions: Transcriptions will be by Antidotezine and published on The Fire These Times.
Pluggables:
- The Fire These Times has a website
- From The Periphery is on Patreon, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter and has a website
- Elia Ayoub is on Mastodon, Instagram, and Bluesky, and he has a newsletter.
- Elias Jahshan is on Instagram, Twitter and Bluesky
- Leila Al-Shami is on Mastodon, Twitter and has a blog
Credits:
Host(s): israa abd elfattah, Leila Al-Shami and Elia Ayoub | Guest(s): Elias Jahshan | Producer(s): Elia Ayoub and Leila Al-Shami | Music: Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design: Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

Premium Episode 2: Hezbollah (Sample)
Ayman sits down with Elia to discuss his article "Hezbollah: 10 Things You Need To Know" which is available for free on his newsletter, hauntologies.net. We recorded this the day before Israel's mass terror attack on Lebanon on 21st of Sept' 24 which left nearly 500 people killed and over 1,000 injured.
Elia has also written about that attack for 972mag: With pager blasts and airstrikes, Israel unleashes its terror on Lebanon.
To listen to the full episode please head out to patreon.com/fromtheperiphery or, if you're on apple podcasts, you can subscribe to the channel directly.

172/ The Holocaust, the Nakba and Reparative Memory
For episode 172, Elia Ayoub and Daniel Voskoboynik talk about a very difficult topic: the Holocaust and the Nakba. The ongoing Israeli genocide in Gaza brings up urgent questions about how memory is weaponized. Elia also talks about Jonathan Glazer,'s The Zone of Interest and the haunting parallels between the everyday life of the Nazi family portrayed in that movie, and the normalization of genocidal rhetoric in Israeli politics today.
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Episode Links:
Multidirectionary Memory by Michael Rothberg
Unzere Kinder, a film (1946, 1948)
Ancestral Future, by Ailton Krenak
Jonathan Glazer calls out Israel's weaponisation of the holocaust
The Holocaust and the Nakba: a new Grammar of Trauma and History
Check out
First video essay on YouTube by Ayman Makarem: Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims and subscribe to our channel
Transcriptions: Transcriptions will be by Antidotezine and published on The Fire These Times.
Pluggables:
From The Periphery has a website and is on Patreon, YouTube, Instagram and Twitter
Elia Ayoub is on Mastodon, Instagram, and Bluesky, and he has a newsletter: Hauntologies.net
Daniel Voskoboynik is on Instagram, and he has a newsletter: The Ecology of Us
Credits:
Host(s): Elia Ayoub and Daniel Voskoboynik | Producers: Aydın Yıldız, Elia Ayoub, israa' abdel fattah, Ayman Makarem and/or Leila Al-Shami | Music: Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design: Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa' abdel fattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

171/ What is Happening with Balochistan? w/ Lateef Johar Baloch
For episode 171, Elia Ayoub and guest host Hari Prasad are joined by Lateef Johar Baloch, a human rights advocate and a member of the Human Rights Council of Balochistan to talk to us about the history of Pakistani oppression and authoritarianism in Balochistan and the ongoing resistance against it. We also talked about broader issues facing Balochistan today including the role of foreign powers such as China and the USA. Note: this was recorded on 24 August 2024, two days before the attack in Musakhel.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. How to Support: on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts. You'll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join our monthly hangouts, and more.
Check out
- First video essay on YouTube by Ayman Makarem: Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims and subscribe to our channel
- Elia Ayoub's newsletter Hauntologies.net
Episode Links:
- Baloch recently co-wrote an article entitled "State-Sponsored Violence & the Violation of Dignity in Balochistan."
- Profile of Lateef Johar on The Walrus
- ‘She has won our hearts and minds’: can one woman unite the Baloch people in peaceful resistance?
- BBC article on enforced disappearances in Balochistan
- Interview with Mahrang Baloch of the Baloch Yakjehti (Solidarity) Committee (BYC)
- Instagram post by Farhad Baloch
- Video of BYC representative Dr. Sabiha Baloch
Transcriptions: Transcriptions will be by Antidotezine and published on The Fire These Times.
Pluggables:
- The Fire These Times in on the website and Instagram
- From The Periphery in on Patreon, YouTube, the website and Twitter
- Elia Ayoub is on Substack, Mastodon, Instagram, Twitter, and Bluesky, and check out his website.
- Hari Prasad is on Bluesky, and check out his website
- Lateef Johar Baloch is on Twitter
Credits:
Host(s): Haris Prasad and Elia Ayoub | Guest(s): Lateef Johar Baloch | Producers: Aydın Yıldız, Elia Ayoub, israa abd elfattah, Ayman Makarem and Leila Al-Shami | Music: Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design: Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

170/ Facing the German Far Right w/ Musa Okwonga
For episode 170, returning guest Musa Okwonga talks to Elia Ayoub about a piece he wrote, "The Hatred Is Accelerating", on racism and the far right in Germany. This was recorded on 31 August 2024, a day before the fascist AfD party won top place in Thuringia and second in Saxony in the state elections.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. How to Support: on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts. You'll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join our monthly hangouts, and more.
Previous TFTT episodes with Musa Okwonga
We Need to Talk About Twitter w/ Musa Okwonga and Justin Salhani
Football is Political: #Qatar2022, Russia and What Comes Next w/ Musa Okwonga and Justin Salhani
Special 2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar Retrospective w/ Musa Okwonga, Fabien Goa and Justin Salhani
Being the Good Immigrant in an Ungrateful Country w/ Musa Okwonga
Check out
2018 article by Musa: Berliners have shown how to stop the march of the far right
The Far Right is Not Inevitable with Aurelien Mondon
The work of Jakob Springfeld and Philipp Ruch. Also: Polylulx and International Women* Space
First video essay on YouTube by Ayman Makarem: Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims and subscribe to our channel
Elia Ayoub's newsletter Hauntologies.net
Recommended reads and listens:
Critical Muslim: German Redemption Theology by Adnan Delalic
London Review of Books: Memory Failure by Pankaj Mishra
972Mag: Germany’s anti-Palestinian censorship turns on Jews by Hebh Jamal
Jewish Currents' "On The Nose Podcast" The Trouble with Germany, part I
Jewish Currents' "On The Nose Podcast" The Trouble with Germany, part II
Granta: Once Again, Germany defines who is a Jew, part I by George Prochnik, Eyal Weizman & Emily Dische-Becker
Granta: Once Again, Germany defines who is a Jew, part II by George Prochnik, Eyal Weizman & Emily Dische-Becker
IWriteStuff.Blog: The Jewish and Arab Questions, and European Fascism by Elia Ayoub
The Palestinian Question as a Jewish Question by Raef Zreik
Books by Musa Okwonga (website):
Please support your local bookshops and public libraries by ordering them there whenever possible.
Striking Out: The Debut Novel from Superstar Striker Ian Wright
Raheem Sterling (Football Legends #1) with Stanley Chow
Eating Roses for Dinner
A Cultured Left Foot: The Eleven Elements of Footballing Greatness
Transcriptions: Transcriptions will be by Antidotezine and published on The Fire These Times.
Pluggables:
The Fire These Times in on the website and Instagram
From The Periphery in on Patreon, YouTube, the website and Twitter
Elia Ayoub is on Mastodon, Instagram, Twitter, and Bluesky, and check out his newsletter and website
Credits:
Host(s): Elia Ayoub | Guest(s): Musa Okwonga | Producers: Aydın Yıldız, Elia Ayoub, Israa Abdel Fattah, Ayman Makarem and Leila Al-Shami | Music: Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design: Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub
From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, Israa Abdel Fattah, with more joining soon!
The Fire These Times by Elia Ayoub is licensed under Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International

169/Macronisme and the Far Right w/ Sahar Amarir & Rim-Sarah Alouane
For episode 169, Elia Ayoub is joined by returning guests Sahar Amarir and Rim-Sarah Alouane to talk about the situation in France, from the recent elections that saw a surprising victory for a Left-Green alliance to how Macronism has been actively normalizing the far right. They described the situation as grim, with far right ideology on questions of race and freedom of worship (especially Islam) the norm in France, with grave implications for the country, the EU and the world. We also talked about Alouane's recent piece on France banning veiled Muslim athletes despite making an inclusivity pledge.
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Previous episodes with the guests:
- Sahar: Anti-Imperialism after the Syrian Revolution (Episode 154)
- Rim-Sarah: The Inherent Toxicity of France’s ‘Islamo-Leftism’ Obsession (Episode 72)
Other links:
- That One Time the Olympics Were Cool w/ James Stout (Episode 165)
- The Far Right is Not Inevitable w/ Aurelien Mondon (Episode 163)
Transcriptions: Transcriptions will be by Antidotezine and published on The Fire These Times.
Follow:
- Follow The Fire These Times on the website, Twitter and Instagram
- Follow From The Periphery on Patreon, the website and YouTube
- Follow Elia Ayoub on Substack, Mastodon, Twitter, Instagram, and Bluesky, and check out his website.
- Follow Rim-Sarah Alouane on LinkedIn and Bluesky, and check out her website
Credits:
Hosts: Elia Ayoub | Guests: Rim-Sarah Alouane & Sahar Amarir | Producer: Elia Ayoub | Music: Rap and Revenge | Main theme design: Wenyi Geng | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub.

Against Multipolar Imperialism w/ Kavita Krishnan, Promise Li and Romeo Kokriatski (Rerun)
For this rerun episode, Elia Ayoub is joined by Kavita Krishnan, an Indian Marxist and Feminist who used to be a politburo member of the Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Liberation who resigned over Ukraine. He is also joined by Promise Li, a US-based Hong Konger organizer and part of the Left diaspora collective Lausan. Co-hosting this episode is Romeo Kokriatski, a Ukrainian-American journalist, managing editor of the New Voice of Ukraine and co-host of the Ukraine Without Hype podcast.
The topic: why the idea of multipolarity needs to be understood & critiqued, and why the left cannot abandon anti-authoritarianism and internationalism.
Note: Due to Russia's ongoing bombardments of Ukraine, Romeo's power went out towards the end of the episode so we had to continue without him.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective. How to Support: on Patreon or on Apple Podcasts. You'll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive episodes, an invitation to join our monthly hangouts, and more.
Links:
- My piece for Lausan Collective: The periphery has no time for binaries
- Majoritarian State: How Hindu Nationalism is Changing India by Angana P. Chatterji, Thomas Blom Hansen and Christophe Jaffrelot (recommended by Kavita Krishnan)
- Money Power and Financial Capital in Emerging Markets: Facing the Liquidity Tsunami by Ilias Alami (recommended by Promise Li)
- Regular updates on India can be found on The India Cable
Previous episodes with Romeo Kokriatski:
- Anti-Imperialism From the Periphery w/ Leila Al Shami & Dana El Kurd
- When War Gets Normalized, Or What’s At Stake in Ukraine w/ Mariam Naiem
- Ukraine Series: 2. From Ukraine, with Love (and Anger)
- Russian Imperialism, Cynical Discourse and Life Amidst War w/ Mariam Naiem
- A View on Ukraine, Hong Kong & Tiananmen, from Taiwan w/ Wen Liu & Brian Hioe
Previous episodes with Promise Li:
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Follow:
- Follow The Fire These Times on the website, Twitter and Instagram
- Follow From The Periphery on Patreon, the website and YouTube
- Follow Elia Ayoub on Substack, Mastodon, Twitter, Instagram, and Bluesky
- Follow Romeo Kokriatski on Bluesky, Twitter and New Voice of Ukraine. Check out Ukraine Without Hype
- Follow Promise Li on Twitter and Bluesky
- Follow Kavita Krishnan on Twitter
Credits:
Hosts: Elia Ayoub and Romeo Kokriatski | Guests: Kavita Krishnan and Promise Li | Producer: Elia Ayoub | Music: Rap and Revenge | Main theme design: Wenyi Geng | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub.

168/ Building Transnational Solidarity w/ Chkoun? Collective
For episode 168, Elia and Leila are joined by the Chkoun? Collective, a collective of people from "North Africa" resisting anti-Black racism and its intersections with migration and the fight for freedom of movement in the region. We discussed their statement "Solidarities are not a given, they need to be built" and how it relates to our experiences covering Syria, Israel-Palestine, and Lebanon.
The Fire These Times is a proud member of the From The Periphery (FTP) media collective. You can support FTP on Patreon and get exclusive episodes from all FTP podcasts, an invitation to our monthly hangout as well as our future book club, and more perks.
Episode links:
The gang:
Subscribe to Elia's newsletter Hauntologies
Check out Leila's blog as well as Elia's archives
Credits:
Host(s): Elia Ayoub and Leila Al-Shami
Guest(s): Chkoun? collective
Music: Rap and Revenge
Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz
Episode designer: Elia J. Ayoub
Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple
Original TFTT design: Wenyi Geng
TFTT Transcripts: Antidotezine

167/ Netanyahu's Dubaization Plan for Gaza After the Genocide w/ Yasser Elsheshtawy
For episode 167, guest host Justin Salhani is joined by Yasser Elsheshtawy to talk about the Dubaization plan that Netanyahu's team put forward for Gaza after their genocide. You won't be surprised to know that we think it's a terrible plan, but what is dubaization?
du·bai·za·tion /dōō’bīzāSHən/ adjective: 1. the act of building a city which relies on spectacular, non-contextual architecture (“The dubaization of Cairo’s skyline”). Synonyms: gulfication; spectacular urbanism. Antonyms: context-oriented urban development; integrated urban fabric; informality.
Bio: Yasser Elsheshtawy is a Non-Resident Scholar at the Arab Gulf States Institute in Washington, DC, and an Adjunct Professor at Columbia University (GSAPP). His scholarship focuses on informal urbanism and environment-behavior studies, with a particular focus on Middle Eastern cities. Moreover, he is an Independent Consultant and has worked on numerous projects in Saudi Arabia, collaborating with renowned architectural and planning practices. He taught at United Arab Emirates University from 1997 till 2017 and was appointed as Curator for the UAE Pavilion at the Venice Architecture Biennale in 2016. He was a Visiting Professor at Université Paris Sorbonne during the Fall semester of 2017. He has authored over 70 publications including Riyadh: Transforming a Desert City, Temporary Cities, and Dubai: Behind an Urban Spectacle. He also edited The Evolving Arab City which received the 2010 International Planning History Society Best Book Award, and Planning Middle Eastern Cities. Two chapters on urban development in the Arab world were published in the widely-known City Planning and Urban Design Readers. Elsheshtawy has a PhD in Architecture from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, a Master in Architecture from Pennsylvania State University, and a Bachelor of Architecture from Cairo University.
Links:
Jerusalem Post's article on Netanyahu's plan: From crisis to prosperity: Netanyahu's vision for Gaza 2035 revealed online by Yuval Barnea
Yasser's piece for DAWN MENA: Selling Egypt by the Pound: 'Gulfication' and the Ras al-Hekma Land Deal
Yasser's blog Dubaization.com
Recommended Book:
Season of Migration to the North by Tayeb Salih (موسم الهجرة إلى الشمال)
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Credits:
Host(s): Justin Salhani
Guest(s): Yasser Elsheshtawy
Music: Rap and Revenge
Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz
Episode designer: Elia J. Ayoub
Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple
Original TFTT design: Wenyi Geng
TFTT Transcripts: Antidotezine

166/ Israel-Palestine After Zionism w/ Ahmed Moor & Antony Loewenstein
For episode 166, Dana & Elia are joined by Ahmed Moor & Antony Loewenstein, co-editors of the book "After Zionism: One State for Israel and Palestine" to talk about the ongoing genocide in Gaza and whether there is any hope for the One State Solution.
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Credits:
Host(s): Elia Ayoub and Dana El Kurd
Guest(s): Ahmed Moor & Antony Loewenstein
Music: Rap and Revenge
Sound editor: Liam Evans
Episode designer: Elia J. Ayoub
Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple
Original TFTT design: Wenyi Geng
TFTT Transcripts: Antidotezine

165/ That One Time the Olympics Were Cool w/ James Stout
For episode 165, Elia and Aydın are joined by investigative journalist and anarchist James Stout of the It Could Happen Here podcast to talk about the 1936 anti-fascist Olympics in Barcelona and the fascists who destroyed it. There's a reason you've only heard of the more notorious Berlin one, and we're gonna get into it here.
You can buy James' book: The Popular Front and the Barcelona 1936 Popular Olympics
His NatGeo piece: The brutal story of the 1936 Popular Olympics: a boycott of fascism and Hitler
The 'Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff' Episode on the Spanish Civil War: The Popular Olympics Antifascist Athletes Help Stop a Coup
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Credits:
Host(s): Elia Ayoub and Aydın Yıldız
Guest(s): James Stout
Music: Rap and Revenge
Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz
Episode designer: Elia J. Ayoub
Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple
Original TFTT design: Wenyi Geng
TFTT Transcripts: Antidotezine

164/ El Salvador's Gang State w/ Michael Paarlberg
For episode 164, Dana El-Kurd is joined by Michael Paarlbeg, associate professor of political science at Virginia Commonwealth University, to discuss the intersection between crime and authoritarian politics in Latin America. They particularly focus on the the state of emergency happening today in El Salvador, covering the rise of Nayib Bukele and the political implications of the “gang state” emerging in the country.
The best way to support The Fire These Times is to become a member of our "From The Periphery" Patreon. For only 5$ a month (and less if you pay yearly) you get perks such as early access, exclusive episodes, an invitation to our monthly hangout, upcoming book clubs, and more. You can also help a lot by leaving a review wherever you listen to podcasts.
Show notes:
Transnational Gangs and Criminal Remittances (academic article, Comparative Migration Studies)
The Emerging Gang State in El Salvador (Global Americans)
Gang Membership in Central America: More Complex Than Meets the Eye (Migration Policy Institute)
How a Fake Gang Crisis in the US Fueled a Real One in Central America (Duke conference)
Gangs, Guns and Judas Priest (The Guardian)
Credits:
Host(s): Dana El-Kurd
Guest(s): Michael Paarlberg
Music: Rap and Revenge
Sound editor: Liam Evans
Episode designer: Elia J. Ayoub
Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple
Original TFTT design: Wenyi Geng
TFTT Transcripts: Antidotezine

163/ The Far Right is Not Inevitable w/ Aurelien Mondon
For episode 163, Elia Ayoub is joined by University of Bath researcher and repeated guest Dr. Aurelien Mondon to talk about the populist hype in the context of the gains by the Far Right in a number of Western countries. We spoke about the EU elections as well as the upcoming UK, France and US elections, asking the question: is the media covering the Far Right responsibly? (spoiler alert: no)
Dr. Mondon is a senior lecturer in Politics, Languages & International Studies at the Centre for Qualitative Research and co-convenor of the Reactionary Politics Research Network.
Correction: I said Bill McKibben when I meant to say Bill Fletcher Jr! Fletcher was a recent guest of TFTT. I was reading a McKibben article earlier that day and my brain must have confused Bills.
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Credits:
Host(s): Elia J. Ayoub
Guest(s): Aurelien Mondon
Music: Rap and Revenge
Sound editor: Liam Evans
Episode designer: Elia J. Ayoub
Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple
Original TFTT design: Wenyi Geng
TFTT Transcripts: Antidotezine