Show note machine broke. Check out Lawrence's other podcast
Find the T4K crew at :
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/players-tour-nagoya#paper or PT SplinterTwin part Deux
Anything happen in legacy?
Leaving A Legacy Open VI
Lee’s post - https://twitter.com/leemcleo/status/1224393524986220545?s=20
How coverage plays into logical fallacies
Robert Wilson-Bio Time
This Week in Legacy-https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/this-week-in-legacy-the-golden-chicken?fbclid=IwAR2Mj_aB3bKqNc4Qu7MulHvBV-GSERvOxeWUjrTFp4TyJvTU7kfIjRzeG4U
Tips on running a local legacy tournament
Robs Grilling tips
Magic has had a major security breach and we want to run down the archetypes and what kind of two-step authentication steps we can attempt to stop them.
Discuss Card and what it brings to eternal formats
The first weekend culprits (legacy)
MARTINMEDMITTEN (5TH PLACE)
ARONGOMU (10TH PLACE)
THREPIO (20TH PLACE)
Max Breach Control
Delver Breach Legacy Premier Event
No Legacy Gp’s the first half of the year
Echo Monk Narset Legacy Challenge
Svaca wrecking with Klothys in challenge
Doomsday is back???? (prob not)
Negator 77-The difficulty some players had being able to play in the PTQ last weekend and the upcoming showcase event due to the reduction in league QP prizes relative to the forced entry for those events (40QP), when it was 35 for the "playoff" events last year and open entry (P Points/Tix) for the PTQ's. People almost have to grind a ton or find time for the awkwardly scheduled daily (ahem sorry, prelim) events.
so spike a prelim or GRIND a lot
4 for a 5-0, 2 for a 4-1.. none for 3-2
so 10 5-0's, 20 4-1's or a combo
I won the trophy race and barely had the 80 required for the ptq and this weekends showcase playoff
Modern banned list update
Set review - https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/theros-beyond-death
Matt Vook won it all: https://twitter.com/Ozymandias172/status/1213966880450457603?s=20
Legacy Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/legacy-challenge-2020-01-06
Just wanna touch on UW Miracles winning it all
Cantrip decks vs not cantrip decks
What’s the deck building constraints of playing cantrips vs general “goodstuff” decks that cut cantrips for spells
When deck building looking at concepts of cantrips, haymakers, interaction, win cons, what are the densities you want?
How to build a better sideboard
Thirst for Knowledge episode 19
Guest Tom Hepp (Negator 77) will ask questions and freeform a get to know you segment
What's BUGging about depths?
When it's time to lace up and go fast
When it's time to take a canTRIP to a tropical island
Depths position in the meta of snow?
Thoughts on Once Upon a Time?
Legacy 5-0 decklist dump
Current thoughts on metagame
Spoilers for Theros Beyond Death
Tom Hepp https://twitter.com/Negator77
Thirst for Knowledge Episode 18
Eternal Weekend Europe
Does Hans Jacob Goddik need banned for format health?
NRG Series Championship
Bedlam Reveler Grixis Delver thoughts
Reveler is the Ancestral Angler that can be Elked?
All non rotating formats should have a force
Hans will be on Everyday Eternal
Lawrence was on “Color of Magic”
Thirst for Knowledge Podcast Episode 17: Hater’s gonna Hate
Lawrence may be right about AstroLame
Reid Duke playing this Legacy Killer on stream https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2578154#paper
Legacy Challenge :https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/legacy-challenge-2019-12-16
Belcher appreciation day
People hate 2019 cards in legacy because it’s forcing them to accept that their pet decks are unplayable
Elves is out here crushing while your pet deck is flopping
WoTC is tired from swinging the ban hammer so now we have to guess when the next one will happen https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/december-16-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement (Just kidding see below)
Is the real villain of 2019 the London Mulligan?https://armlx.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-issues-with-london-mulligan.html https://thezvi.wordpress.com/2019/11/11/ban-the-london-mulligan/
Oko and Nexus bannedhttps://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/december-16-2019-pioneer-banned-announcement
Lawrence/Anuraag/Eric/John- Brazilian Nationals Coverage
Thirst episode 15: “Oko how could you?”
Ironically Lawrences frontrunner?
Hymn is not playable
Not happy with threats
Mana being better seems like a huge upside
Not losing much. Except for maybe the combo mu
Good or no?
Landon crushing with it
Oko + Astrolabe is an issue that will need to be addressed(Lawrences tweet)
Maybe Veil is a bigger issue?
4 & 5 color piles
Just how good is wasteland
Lands Maybe good, maybe not?
Field of the dead
Congrats Brian Coval GP Columbus champ!
Adam Fronsee-Runner Up
What to play In Bologna?
Dominic Monfre-How do you think the various flavors of depths fare without RUG?
Eliyahu David-Is Bant Midrange(Thomas’s challenge t8 List) going to be a viable option? Thoughts on the list and strategy.
Tom Simons-How long before we see astrolabe banned in legacy? If not, are we just going to end up in a weird inbred meta where you’re supposed to force t1 astrolabe then surgical it in sb games?
Draw comparison to top
Will-Thoughts on the various flavors of Lands floating around? RG/RUG/BUG/Jund/4C?
JAck Kendall-How will you approach the new meta? Which interation of Delver is the best shell moving forward? Predictions for the GP?
Joe Dyer-Top 10 ways to drunkenly slog through thanksgiving?
Teddy-Appropriate thanksgiving meat?
Any Wilson-Thoughts on Wasteland?
Dan Neely-What should I play this weekend to give myself the best chance to qualify for the format championship
Thirst for Knowledge Episode 14
Live on Arena already
Play Design Article https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/play-design-lessons-learned-2019-11-18
Matt Sperling Thoughts https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/articles/mondays-bans-are-the-latest-attempt-to-correct-a-year-of-overpowered-cards/
No Bans in Pioneer this week and next unless they decide tohttps://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/articles/mondays-bans-are-the-latest-attempt-to-correct-a-year-of-overpowered-cards/
Robert Wilson Grixis Delver Article https://www.minmaxblog.com/magic/2019/6/25/guest-article-grixis-delver-at-scg-con-by-robert-wilson
Protection from 2019 Walkers and forest cmc cards
HJ_Kaiser 4c Delver deck
Inbred Delver dynamics: Greedy mana -> clean mana with stifle
Check out Lawrence’s article on patreon
If you want delver to not be a powerful deck regardless of the legacy meta then ban delver
SCG reddit comments
Veal of summer banned
Black is on the menu - Discard got unbanned
Grixis Peezy?-Mention Ruggo
Lawrence Jumped in
Nexus-Is this deck dead?
Thoughts on the format
Decks I wanna try
Mono colored decks
Splashes not being worth it?
Y’all play any Legacy?
Bant Oko nonsense https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2406336#paper
Are delver mu’s 4 force matchups?
Forgot to board in Surgical
Missed 1 Drop Removal
Ironically Surgical kinda sux
Is Lands Miss built?
Bad vs W6
Once Upon A Time Delver?
Amulet is Dumb
Gonna Try praising the Karn Father
Thoughts on the new format
The Modern we always wanted?
1st challenge this weekend
What Lawrence is looking at `
Saheeli Cat RtR Control with Approach
Energy Nahiri based control
Marvel Emerge nonsense
Scarab Gawd G/B value stuff
MonoRedBeats Explore stuff
Atarka Red Jeskai Ascendancy
Aristocrats Oko still Broko
Dredge Jund Delirium w/Emrakul
CoCo Humans LootScooter the star MVP
Hardened Scales/Counters Mono Blue Tempo
Fires of Invention -approach ->second sun->dtt
PioneerDecklists-Arena Decklist peeps
PioneerCast- TheTannon and RossHunneds
What this means for the future of Legacy
Host your own events
Kill the reserve list
What this means for the future of Modern?
Ophidian- One topic that is important to me is building a local player base for legacy
lately all shops around have been struggling to fire
Dr.Rich Shay- Would RUG Delver be a good choice for Eternal Weekend?
Bhmtg1- Favorite meme deck in legacy
Harrison-Why are people still playing Jeskai Mentor?
Lawrence got his copy of the Humans of Magic Book!
If you’re a patron and not in our discord then
Long rant not Mtg related but solid conversations
The boys chat about the past week in Magic, the Legacy MOCS, Quarterly, and what's to come in the future
More and more stifle rug
Storm likely being the best deck is indicative of bigger issues within legacy
Stryfo pile primed to crush?
Surgical much less common
Sperlings resp to the ari lax tweet wrt taking the draw
Steve S-Do you think Wizards is pushing the power level of cards not just because of Standard but because it encourages Modern and Legacy players to buy singles, driving sealed product sales?
Dylan H-When w6 was printed many people were thinking that it would best fit in a “lands” style deck weather it is aggro Loam, lands, or a KOTR deck. Like deathrite shaman it found its best home in blue decks. Do you think the ability to put cantrips around powerful cards is going to end up putting pressure on WOTC to ban a blue card like ponder, daze, or brainstorm? Especially if they keep their current design strategy up.
https://twitter.com/atoglord/status/1183774107994918914 This is great!!!!!Our discord is a great open environment
Colors of magic-https://twitter.com/ColorofMTG
Community Legacy League
Plug the community Legacy league
Community Legacy League Discord
New Patron Shoutout
If you’re a patron and not in our discord then
GP Atlanta Steve edition
Mystic Sanctuary is the hot fire
Various UW Shells- Not just Miracles
Legacy 5-0 Deck dump
Legacy Challenge results
Legacy MKM Barcelona
Is Grixis good now?
Thoughts on SCG team event
Legacy Premier league tomorrow! - twitch.tv/itsjulian
This week Lawrence is joined by GP Atlanta champion Cyrus Corman-Gill
Thirst knowledge cast episode 7: Hawt’Lanta bound
Intro: Welcome to Thirst for Knowledge Cast episode 7. I’m one of your hosts Steve and with me is the Delver of all secrets, Lawrence Harmon. Also thank Jarvis for being on last week
SCG Open Syracuse
Legacy PTQ 9/14/19
Legacy Challenge 9/15/19
Metagame Breakdown top 16
RUG Delver- 22 in top 16 of all above tournaments
4c Snow Control,DnT, Glacial Mentor Stompy, and UR Delver are the next decks at 4 a piece
R/B Reanimator, ANT, and Mono Red come in at 3
Merfolk is rising??
RUG Delver the best deck????
Snek- how many and is it correct?
4c Delver’s place in the meta
4c Control merits
Are people prepared for Depths and is that the cause of it’s smaller share at the top tables?
Combo- would we play it and what would it be
Blade decks have dulled and it shows
The state of tundra- Terminus or Sinkhole
Mystic Karn- the linear deck that’s fast but vulnerable
Top 8 predictions 12 w6
What would/are we going to play?
W6 vs. Legacy
Ramble about new set
Shoutout to Matt Sperling @sickofit for doing an analysis of our very own Lawrence Harmon’s latest 4c Delver stream. Lawrence 5-0ed the league and Matt gave his feedback on one of the matches. We will post the link in the show notes and hope you enjoy. https://youtu.be/ktFHPg2D9cQ
Patreon Plug- part 2 of the 4c delver primer is up and we hope you thirsty grinders are ready to take a drink.
Introduce Jarvis Yu.
What steps do you take to prepare for a tournament?
How crucial do you think good health habits are? Sleep. Food. Hydration
Testing vs Practicing
Playing what you know/like vs the best deck
Knowing your range
Matchup vs the field
MTGO 5-0 data critical when cherry picked or just a solid place for ideas
Sideboard Maps: Finding the perfect 75
Sideboard guides vs game theory
Merits of Sideboard guides and disadvantages
Play draw considerations
What habits do you observe before a tournament?
Thoughts on pregame jitters
Staying positive and a healthy mindset when variance takes over
Classic Jarvis Articles that hooked me into Gathering Magic
BBD’s Thoughts on the unban
Where Modern Ins
Where Modern is going?
Modern-references for the weekend. Feel free to not go in depth
SCG Dallas Open http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Open/2019-08-31_modern_Dallas_TX_US/1/
SCG Classic http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Classic/2019-09-01_modern_Dallas_TX_US/1/
Modern MCQ MTGO https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-mcq-2019-09-02
Modern Challenge https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-09-01
Thoughts on other formats?
Thoughts on Ildrane?-http://mythicspoiler.com/
New Mechanic? How does it work?https://dotesports.com/mtg/news/mtg-throne-of-eldraine-adventure-mechanic-explained
The future of magic? MPL Next year etc?
Initial reaction to the 2020 lineup?
Theros Beyond Death
Ikoria-Lair of behemoths----new super secret mechanics? Make monsters? BBD makes B.F.M.
Core set 2021 Teferi4president
Thoughts on core sets in general
Thoughts on core sets being walker themed?
What are your favorite decks per format?
How has that shifted as the years have gone by?
A word from our sponsor
Eric Vergo-You’re known for putting a ton of hours and “out working” people. Many people have a limited amount of time they can devote to the game. How would you suggesst maximizing that time in order to produce results?
Robert Wilson-Can Hate mail for this episode also be directed to shaheenmtg?
Dylan Hovey-What Legacy Decks are worth playing in front of the dumpster vs behind the dumpster
Luke Strasler-Can I get an updated list and sb guide for Legacy esper Hero?
NotSoSilentBob1-If you’re going to play a constructed trios event what decks would you press your teammates to play in each format
Lawrence Harmon-Is it true that being bald makes you better at magic because you spend less time on your hair and more time grinding? Do you think shaving your head is the secret tech?
Real question: Lawrence-How do you feel about your scg years? Do you look back at them fondly? How do you feel they shaped you as a player? Will we see the return of the iconic pink sleeves?
BBD outtro-Has to go knife fight a toddler in the streets of bangkok
Lawrence & Steve talk about legacy from here after bbd leaves
Episode 4-Happy Birthday Mystic Man
Modern Ban List https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/august-26-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2019-08-26
Effects of SFM? Too easy to splash? Will we see the sfm leveling game?-greedier and greedier blade lists How many batterskull to play?
https://twitter.com/VedKarhade/status/1166419816904704000 Urza-Blade https://twitter.com/kanister_mtg/status/1166014260331393027 Goblin Engineer & how that relates to mana usage
SFM Tips Activate sfm then resp with bskull Play around clique The “sfm port” Cryptic mode + bounce skull
How to select your equipment package Batterskull Swords Light & Shadow Fire & Ice Sinnew & Steel Truth and justice Feast & Famine War & Peace Manriki-Gusari Inventor's Googles
Mono White Shells
Maverick? Deadguy Ale Mardu Blade?
Counters for SFM?
Play powerful linear strats Tron?
Dredge still a thing? Enablers for dredge Blue Dredge? Scour Bazaar Trademage Desperate Ravings
Grixis Death’s Shadow
Soulherder deck https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/modern-bant-soulherder-primer/
No Legacy changes Eric Hawkins Ban Narset & W6
NBC Rug wins challenge https://twitter.com/fishduggery/status/1165778972065456128?s=20 Play around stifle in the dark when you see RUG mana? Probably not Does that make stifle better? Probably yes
Legacy we played Lawrence-12-3 w/ 4c delver 3-2 with UW
Steve- 4c Control 3-1 Steve's 4c deck https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2218371#
paper Blade-felt medium
Edgars/anuraags deck http://magic.facetofacegames.com/showdown-recap-legacy-21/
60% against fair assuming both players have similar hands May still struggle vs combo
Vintage Lol shops still exists Will fastbond do anything? Vintage Lands
Platforms Soundcloud,RadioPublic. Itunes!, Anchor, Spotify, GogglePodcast, Pocketcast
Events this weekend
1)Star City Team Constructed http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Team_Open/2019-08-17_legacy_Richmond_VA_US/1/
2)Star City Legacy Classic https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/scg-legacy-classic-richmond-2019-08-18
3)MTGO Legacy Challenge https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/legacy-challenge-11947862
4)Eternal Weekend Asia https://cardsrealm.com/artigos/eternal-weekend-asia-2019---legacy need to translate
Last Legacy Deck Dump https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/legacy-league-2019-08-17#paper
Mention Anu’s coverage of the asian eternal weekend twitch.tv/anzi104
Talking points during deck discussion
Discuss cards in winning decklist that are being played.
Crop Rot was in top 10 spells in many events
W6 was most played planeswalker
Merfolk placed 2nd?!?!?! Fluke or Metacall?
The Rise of RB Reanimator?
Delver should play 3 answers for lage
Edict effects are trash
Only losing to TNN out of delver shells
Stoneblade is the Tundra deck to play
Blade won the challenge again
Anu played it https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2192762#paper
Powerful with w6 Ult
Maybe there’s an esper blade list that can run it?
Where can they find us?
Lawrence Harmon https://twitter.com/lawrenceharmon
Steven Hendrickson https://twitter.com/raistlinim
Kwame Gunn https://twitter.com/TripodGunn
Platforms we are on
Soundcloud,RadioPublic. Itunes!, Anchor, Spotify, GogglePodcast, Pocketcast