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Two Washups One Pro

Two Washups One Pro

By Two Washups One Pro

Two former pro women's soccer players and your hosts, Tina Iordanou & Jo (Boyles) Fennema, have candid conversations with some of the best female soccer player across the world, discussing how their journey led to a successful professional career. You’ll not only get inside access to who these women are as athletes but what they pursue and are passionate about off the pitch.
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Episode 39: OL Reign Forward Veronica Latsko

Two Washups One ProFeb 28, 2022

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Episode 40: Taylor Otto

Episode 40: Taylor Otto

We're joined by Racing Lousiville midfielder, Taylor Otto who's set to have a breakout year following her 2021 injury. We always talk about the legacy of UNC women's soccer, but what is it really like to transition from an Anson Dorrance system to the NWSL? Taylor talks through it all, including how her time at UNC has developed her into a great leader and positionless player in the league.

Mar 14, 202240:49
Episode 39: OL Reign Forward Veronica Latsko

Episode 39: OL Reign Forward Veronica Latsko

We're joined by the multi-talented Veronica Latsko who's ready for her first season with OL Reign. We always talk about how talented NWSL players are off the field and V is the greatest example. Not only is she a premier goalscorer but a future lawyer who had a major impact as a player representative on the CBA council. Listen in and learn more about this fascinating woman and player.

Feb 28, 202242:59
EPISODE 38: Houston Dash Midfielder Bri Visalli

EPISODE 38: Houston Dash Midfielder Bri Visalli

We're joined by the talented Bri Visalli who's set for a breakout season in Houston this year! From the FA Super League to the NWSL Bri has experienced playing into the two top leagues in the world. Learn about her experience being part of the players CBA council and her optimism for the future of professional women's soccer.

Feb 21, 202238:57
Episode 37: WNBA and NWSL Journalist Annie Costabile

Episode 37: WNBA and NWSL Journalist Annie Costabile

We're joined by one of the best journalists in the women's professional sports industry, the amazing Annie Costabile. Currently writing for the Chicago Sun-Times, Annie covers the Chicago Sky beat for the WNBA + Chicago Red Star coverage. Annie touches on the challenges of 2021 coverage of the NWSL, a career-high covering the Sky during their WNBA finals championship + more!

Feb 07, 202243:58
Episode 36: Former CEO and current investor Dinos Iordanou talks investing for dummies

Episode 36: Former CEO and current investor Dinos Iordanou talks investing for dummies

We're joined by Dinos Iordanou, an insurance executive and investor, with over 40 years of experience. If you are new to investing, this is the pod for you, no matter how much you have. Learn how to make so much more even with a little!

Jan 31, 202242:36
Episode 35: Welcome to the NWSL moment featuring Marta & more with Madison Tiernan

Episode 35: Welcome to the NWSL moment featuring Marta & more with Madison Tiernan

We're joined by the new Rutgers women's soccer assistant coach and former NWSL player Madison Tiernan. We hear about Madison's journey into coaching, the challenges that come with being a young female coach, and her life as an NWSL player + more. Madison even tells us about her welcome to the NWSL moment featuring the GOAT Marta....

Jan 24, 202241:44
Episode 34: Locker room drama, fitness test misery and more with Morgan Stearns

Episode 34: Locker room drama, fitness test misery and more with Morgan Stearns

We're joined by the funniest human we know and fellow UVA Wahoo Ms. Morgan Stearns. We get into the funniest fitness stories, the importance of team fit, and of course how to deal with team DRAMA. Tina even relives her worst on-field moment & more....

Jan 16, 202243:42
Episode 33: New Year Same TWOPs

Episode 33: New Year Same TWOPs

WE'RE BACK!! We missed you all during the holiday season but the TWOPs are ready to bring you bigger and better content this year. On this week's pod we recap an amazing 2021, get some insight on Joanna's journey to recovery and talk through our goals for 2022! 

Jan 09, 202239:16
Episode 32: Brianna Pinto

Episode 32: Brianna Pinto

On the season finale of TWOP, Jo and Tina chat with Gotham FC Midfielder and Former Tarheel Brianna Pinto. We all know about Brianna's impressive career on the field, including her long stint with youth national teams, becoming the third overall pick, and of course her time with the Full U.S. WNT. What you may not know, is the athlete that is on track to graduate from UNC Kenan-Flagler School of Business and the US representative at the 68th FIFA Congress where she spoke in an effort to win a bid for the 2026 Men's World Cup. Brianna's story goes far beyond her ability on a field and what better way to end a season than to chat with a true representative and role model of the NWSL. 

Nov 15, 202140:05
Episode 31: TWOP Post-season Menality Pod

Episode 31: TWOP Post-season Menality Pod

On this week's pod we got a solo TWOP pod! Jo and Tina get vulnerable and chat about their college post-season experience and their lack of success in winning championships. So much thought and conversation goes into the x's and o's but what about the mental aspects of pursuing a team championship, how did we deal with the pressure of a whole season coming down to a single game? we dive into it all through our own experiences. 

Nov 08, 202145:01
Episode 30: Mandy Laddish

Episode 30: Mandy Laddish

On this week's pod, Jo and Tina catch up with NWSL veteran and former Kansas City Woso midfielder Mandy Laddish. From the early beginnings of the NWSL, Mandy has experienced all the growth and hurdles the league has faced over the last 9 years. We get into it all, including her amazing comeback from devasting injuries, the steps she took to prepare for life after soccer, and the amazing work she is doing now at Adidas. Her journey can relate to us all.

Nov 01, 202101:00:04
Episode 29: Bethany Balcer

Episode 29: Bethany Balcer

On this week's pod, Jo and Tina chat with OL Reign forward and former NWSL Rookie of the Year Bethany Balcer. The former NAIA national player of the year has made quite a name for herself since earning a roster spot back in 2019. Not only for her incredible goal-scoring ability on the field but also for her voice off. We loved getting to know the talented, musical-loving, and courageous NWSL player advocate Bethany and we know you will too!

Oct 25, 202154:10
Episode 28: Brad Miller

Episode 28: Brad Miller

On this week's pod, Jo and Tina chat with Dr. Brad Miller a former college soccer player and current psychologist and co-founder of Soccer Resilience. While many athletes are hyper-focused on training their bodies, what about their minds? Dr. Miller reminds us of the importance of prioritizing mental health and provides strategies for transforming mindset in order to elevate well-being.

Oct 18, 202158:56
Episode 27: Janine Beckie

Episode 27: Janine Beckie

On this week's pod, we travel over the pond and chat with the talented Manchester City and Canada WNT forward Janine Beckie. As amazing it was to talk about her journey of becoming a gold medalist, it was even more remarkable to learn more about how Janine has become an advocate for the equality and evolvement of women in professional sports.

Oct 11, 202101:02:44
Special Episode: Mental Health Chat w/ Emily Perrin

Special Episode: Mental Health Chat w/ Emily Perrin

In lieu of all that has transgressed this week in the NWSL, we know it has been challenging for many of us especially the courageous and resilient women who told their stories. Many of us have past trauma that may have been triggered this week, which is why we've invited Emily Perrin to talk on this pod about how we can all heal and cope with the feelings we may be experiencing. 


DISCLOSURE: This podcast contains conversations around physical and mental abuse and trauma. Please proceed with caution and be aware that points within this episode could be triggering.

The advice and recommendations given within this podcast DO NOT in any way replace a therapeutic relationship or individualized medical or mental health care.

Oct 02, 202156:36
Episode 26: Reilly Beatty

Episode 26: Reilly Beatty

On this week’s pod, Jo and Tina chat with former soccer player and current certified dietician Reilly Beatty. Nutrition is obviously a critical aspect of being a professional athlete, but what about when you're no longer a high-level athlete? Reilly talks about current diet myths, strategies for healthy eating, and most importantly keys to sustaining a positive relationship with food. Take a listen and see how nutrition can be simplified for us all, especially us wash-ups who no longer spend most of our day working out!

Sep 27, 202159:33
Episode 25: The TWOPS Pod

Episode 25: The TWOPS Pod

On this week's episode, Jo and Tina talk through the NWSL coaching carousel and its impact on players. As a bonus, they reflect and talk through their journey thus far, including lessons they've learned, the impact they hope to make, and exciting new content coming in the future. Be a part of the conversation and DM us your thoughts! This podcast is a community and we want all of you who support us to be a part of it. 

Sep 17, 202153:50
Episode 24: Christina Gibbons

Episode 24: Christina Gibbons

On this week's pod, Jo and Tina chat with the goat of wash-ups and former professional soccer player Christina Gibbons. Since retiring in 2019, this girl is killing it in the digital content space and currently is a manager at Hudl at the old age of 26 :) We get into all things past and current career but, most importantly get candid about the challenges that come with transition and breakdown how redefining your identity outside the game can be much more challenging than we anticipate. 

Sep 10, 202153:31
Episode 23: Becky Burleigh

Episode 23: Becky Burleigh

On this week's pod, Jo and Tina chat with the legend herself former University of Florida head coach and current Orlando Pride head coach Becky Burleigh. At one point Becky was a 21-year-old coach at Berry College and now she sits at top of some of the most accomplished female coaches in women’s soccer history. Her journey is inspiring and the NWSL is a better league with her in! Tune in to be fed all the wisdom!

Sep 03, 202153:50
Episode 22: Kristen McNabb

Episode 22: Kristen McNabb

On this weeks podcast, Jo and Tina chat with the undercover stud Kristen McNabb of the OL Reign. We get into all things in her soccer journey, performance mentality, and all the activities Kristen enjoys off the pitch. Get to know this quiet and unique gem of a human.

Aug 27, 202147:13
Episode 21: Gabby Seiler

Episode 21: Gabby Seiler

On this week's podcast, Tina and Jo chat with Houston Dash midfielder Gabby Seiler. We get vulnerable about mental health in this one and learn some amazing wisdom from this resilient chica. Her journey is inspiring and one that will remind us all to never give up during times of adversity. Don't miss it.

Aug 20, 202152:39
Episode 20: Cari Roccaro

Episode 20: Cari Roccaro

On this week's episode, Jo and Tina catch up with North Carolina Courage Defender, Cari Roccaro! We take you through her entire soccer journey from youth national team success to her journey through the NWSL and all the lessons she's learned along the way. Also, shoutout Butterfly Road Podcast for its impact on all of us who need to get candid about mental health.

Aug 13, 202153:40
Special Episode: Olympic Semi Final Analysis

Special Episode: Olympic Semi Final Analysis

The TWOPS are back with a good ole Tina and Jo solo pod! We dive deep into the USWNT loss vs. Canada, the future of the national team, and our expectations going into the bronze medal match. Also, coach Jo breaks it all down tactically and gives us some picks for stars she thinks will get an opportunity in this next US cycle.

Aug 04, 202143:30
Special Episode: Olympic-Quarter Final Analysis

Special Episode: Olympic-Quarter Final Analysis

We're back on with former Gotham FC and current coach Madison Tiernan to analyze the USWNT vs. the Netherlands nail-bitter. We breakdown performance, play, and expectations for the US semi-final going into their battle with Canada!

Jul 31, 202151:41
Special Episode: Olympic Group Stage Analysis

Special Episode: Olympic Group Stage Analysis

TWOP 🧢 OFF and coach 🧢 ON! Tune in and listen to Tina, Jo, and CEO of Elite Striking Soccer Training Iko DeOliveira break down the US Women's National Team performance through the group stage, predictions vs. The Netherlands, and the challenges of high expectation on the international stage.

Jul 28, 202156:13
Episode 19: Anson Dorrance Part 2

Episode 19: Anson Dorrance Part 2

On this week's episode, Jo and Tina catch up with the legend Anson Dorrance to talk about all things UNC women's soccer, the childhood experiences that have shaped soccer’s greatest coach, and the mentality he instills in his players + so so much more! You don’t want to miss this.

Jul 23, 202129:37
Episode 19: Anson Dorrance Part 1

Episode 19: Anson Dorrance Part 1

On this week's episode, Jo and Tina catch up with the legend Anson Dorrance to talk about all things UNC women's soccer , the childhood experiences that have shaped soccer’s greatest coach, and the mentality he instills in his players + so so much more! You don’t want to miss this.

Jul 23, 202148:16
Episode 18: Savannah McCaskill

Episode 18: Savannah McCaskill

On this week's episode, Jo and Tina catch up with Savannah McCaskill to talk about all things Racing Lousiville, her dominating career at South Carolina, and her continued journey of becoming one of the topic attackers in the world!

Jul 16, 202148:09
Episode 17: Melissa Ortiz

Episode 17: Melissa Ortiz

Tune in the listen to Jo and Tina talk with former Colombian soccer star and inspiring entrepreneur Melissa Ortiz! We dive into her journey to create the first soccer-specific coffee brand Kickoff Coffee, the mental struggles that come with transitioning out of a professional sports career, and the experience of representing Colombia at fútbol's greatest tournaments + so much more!

Jul 09, 202147:33
Episode 16: Sofia Huerta

Episode 16: Sofia Huerta

Tune in to listen to Tina and Jo chat with OL Reign and NWSL star Sofia Huerta about her journey from beautiful Idaho to Santa Clara soccer and ultimately the NWSL. We dive into all the shifts and turns in her career and her experience as the only player to have played for both the Mexican and U.S. Women National Team + so much more! 

Jul 02, 202146:30
Episode 15: Rachel Hill

Episode 15: Rachel Hill

Tune in to listen to Jo and Tina talk with Chicago Red Star Rachel Hill about her journey becoming the second all-time career goal scorer in UCONN women's soccer history, her mindset handling the pressures that come with being a forward in the NWSL, and her experience being traded at the beginning of 2020 + so much more!

Jun 25, 202146:05
Episode 14: Olivia Moultrie

Episode 14: Olivia Moultrie

Tune in to listen to Jo and Tina talk with Portland Thorn Olivia Moultrie who journey to playing in the NWSL is almost a reality. Liv chats with us about growing up in the spotlight, her genuine LOVE of the game, and her battle of becoming the first player under 18 to play in the NWSL + so much more! 

Jun 18, 202152:19
Episode 13: Darian Jenkins

Episode 13: Darian Jenkins

WE'RE BACK! Tune in this to listen to Jo and Tina talk with Kansas City's Darian Jenkins about her experience growing up as a young soccer player in Utah, her unbelievable recovery from a major leg injury during her senior season at UCLA, and her passion for coaching and becoming a black female coach at the highest level + so much more!

Jun 11, 202141:54
Special Bonus College Cup Pod w/ Lindsey Harris and Morgan Stearns

Special Bonus College Cup Pod w/ Lindsey Harris and Morgan Stearns

Jo and Tina reconnect with their college goalkeepers Morgan Stearns (UVA) and Lindsey Harris (UNC) to talk about all things college soccer including their experience in the College Cup. You will love the banter in this one!

May 13, 202101:02:38
2021 Challenge Cup Kickoff Pod #4

2021 Challenge Cup Kickoff Pod #4

On the final NWSL Challenge Cup Championship pod, Jo and Tina chat through their greatest tournament takeaways, expectations for the upcoming season and break down the Championship game between Gotham FC and Portland Thorns.

May 07, 202101:00:09
2021 Challenge Cup Kickoff Pod #3

2021 Challenge Cup Kickoff Pod #3

On this week's NWSL Challenge Cup kickoff pod, Jo and Tina recap this week's games, make their case for early MVP and their picks for the East and West Division Champions. We also dive into Secret's Rookie Class partnership news and some of our favorite 2021 team jerseys.

Apr 26, 202150:50
Episode 12: Alessia Russo

Episode 12: Alessia Russo

Tune in this week to listen to Jo and Tina chat with Alessia Russo about her experience growing up playing for the England national team squads, going “across the pond” to play for the North Carolina Tar Heels, and how Covid-19 changed her plans for her senior year and pushed her to play pro in England for Manchester United!

Apr 23, 202139:10
2021 Challenge Cup Kickoff Pod #2

2021 Challenge Cup Kickoff Pod #2

On this week's NWSL Challenge Cup kickoff pod, Jo and Tina recap this week's games and breakouts performances by players and teams. We also dive into the story surrounding young prodigy Olivia Moultrie and some of our current favorite furry friends in the league. 

Apr 19, 202150:13
Episode 11: Andi Sullivan

Episode 11: Andi Sullivan

Tune in this week to listen to Jo and Tina chat with Andi Sullivan about her experience winning a championship for Stanford after tearing her ACL, the highs and lows of being a part of the super competitive US National Team, and playing for the Washington Spirit!

Apr 16, 202156:52
2021 Challenge Cup Kickoff Pod #1

2021 Challenge Cup Kickoff Pod #1

On the first NWSL Challenge Cup kickoff pod, Jo and Tina make their picks for the upcoming tournament. Top players to watch, darkhorse teams to keep an eye on and their Challenge Cup champion picks.

Apr 12, 202150:24
Episode 10: Claire Emslie

Episode 10: Claire Emslie

Tune in this week to listen to Jo and Tina chat with Claire about her experience playing club soccer all around the globe (USA, England, Australia), playing for her country in Scotland, and the challenges of being a pro soccer player in today's game.

Apr 09, 202143:48
Episode 9: Shelina Zadorsky

Episode 9: Shelina Zadorsky

Tune in this week to listen to Jo and Tina discuss with Shelina how talk with her about her experience growing up in the Canadian ranks, her ambitions to defeat the US, and what it's like now playing for the Tottenham Hotspurs.

Apr 02, 202157:48
Episode 8: Tziarra King

Episode 8: Tziarra King

Tune in this week to listen to Jo and Tina discuss with Tziarra how she started with playing futsal to pursuing pro soccer, and how she uses her platform to initiate conversations surrounding inequalities in the league. 


5:27- How Tziarra started out her soccer career playing futsal. 

12:40- Why Tziarra wanted to go pro. 

16:30- How Tziarra uses her platform to advocate for the BLM movement in the NWSL. 

28:18- Tziarra's transition from playing collegiate to professional soccer. 

Mar 26, 202141:47
Episode 7: Taylor Smith

Episode 7: Taylor Smith

Tune in this week with Tina & Jo to listen to how Taylor Smith advocates for mental health and the mindset needed to come back from her ACL tear as a pro athlete. 

3:53- Decision to commit to UCLA

8:30- Drafting experience coming out of college 

16:20- Coming back from ACL tear 

35:00- Taylor Smith using her platform to advocate for the LBTQ+ community and POC



Mar 19, 202146:47
Episode 6: Simone Charley

Episode 6: Simone Charley

This week Jo and Tina discuss with Simone Charley how she pursued both soccer and track & field in college, and how she uses her platform as a professional athlete to advocate for human rights. 

5:15- How Simone Charley decided to pursue soccer and track in college. 

16:50- What it's like to be a pro athlete during a pandemic. 

19:20- How the NWSL took a stance with the BLM movement. 

28:44- Drafting experience into the NWSL.

 

Mar 12, 202143:17
Episode 5: Carson Pickett

Episode 5: Carson Pickett

Tune in to listen to Jo and Tina discuss with Carson Pickett why she pursued soccer professionally and how she works to inspire others globally. 

7:27- Why Carson fell in love with soccer 

16:08- How Carson stays motivated, and overcomes physical obstacles

27:11- Inspiring others globally 

31:02-  Experience as a D1 athlete at FSU 


Mar 05, 202146:45
Episode 4: Cheyna Matthews

Episode 4: Cheyna Matthews

Tune in to listen to Toni and Jo discuss with Cheyna Matthews balancing her life as a pro soccer player, wife, mom, and lawyer. 

7:00- Cheyna Matthews' decision to transfer schools to benefit her athletic career as a D1 athlete.

25:26- Cheyna's comeback after having a kid to make the Jamaican national team.

31:08- Balancing life as a mom, wife, pro-athlete, while pursuing a legal degree. 

35:17- Moving forward, how the NWSL can improve their policies for players that are moms. 

44:05 -How Cheyna Matthews and her husband Jordan Matthews founded Matthew's Mission. 


Feb 26, 202151:06
Episode 3: Paige Nielsen

Episode 3: Paige Nielsen

Toni and Jo talk with Paige Nielsen about the personal development and perseverance that led up to her career as a professional soccer player. 

6:16- How Paige Nielsen's mom had the greatest impact on her career and personal development. 

11:18- Paige Nielsen's experience at University of North Carolina as a D1 athlete.

25:03- Paige Nielsen's difficult decision turning down job offers to pursue a career in pro soccer.

30:00- Paige Nielsen's experience playing pro soccer abroad. 

42:30- Expectations for women's soccer in the future. 

Feb 19, 202152:25
Episode 2: Toni Pressley

Episode 2: Toni Pressley

Listen to Jo & Tina discuss with Toni Pressley her experience as a professional athlete, from improving her performance through a plant-based diet, to returning to pro soccer after a battle with breast cancer. 

5:10- Toni Pressley explains her recruitment process to play D1

9:27- Toni Pressley discusses how a plant-based diet changed her performance on the field  

23:56- Toni Pressley shares her battle with breast cancer and returning to continue to play professionally 

44:26- Toni Pressley's expectations for Orlando Pride going into 2021



Feb 12, 202151:32
Episode 1: Jane Campbell

Episode 1: Jane Campbell

Listen to Jo & Tina chat with Jane Campbell about her illustrious pro soccer career and what she stays busy with off the pitch.

4:40-Jane Campbell's recruitment to play D1

20:37- Outlook on the upcoming soccer season 

35:49-Jane Campbell's come back in her professional soccer career 

43:05-Jane Campbell's creating her own brand 

Feb 11, 202152:08