Whistle Pig & The Bear
By Steve Gallagher & Matt Huett
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Whistle Pig & The BearMar 02, 2024
#45
This one goes all over the place but well worth the time.
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#44
Matt & Steve discuss "Book of Clarence" written and directed by Jeymes Samuel and catch up over other musings of the week.
#43 - Special Guest Gabe Stoutimore
Joining Steve & Matt this week is long-time friend, author Gabe "GJ" Stoutimore.
In this conversation, Steve, Matt & Gabe discuss Gabe's latest work, Murder Baby, post-Christianity, humanity's constructs, and all things friendship.
Go pick up your copy of Murder Baby is book one of the series, Knights of Sadira.
Pick up your copy of Murder Baby here.
About Knights of Sadira:
The Knights of Sadira is a dark supernatural fantasy novel series telling the story of a once ancient sorority of demon slayers operating in secret in a surrealistic, cyberpunk future.
Firmly entrenched between dark fantasy and horror, the series follows five women in a generational struggle to overcome darkness, from the outside and within themselves.
With engaging, relatable characters caught in the familiar, classic struggle between good and evil, The Knights of Sadira tells a tale of belonging, the testing of kinship, loss, trauma, identity, and death. Murder Baby is the first of four books.
#42 with Special Guest Rob Bell
Steve & Matt talk with special guest author-painter-podcaster Rob Bell about his new book "Where'd You Park Your Spaceship".
You can find his podcast, The RobCast, here.
Rob is a New York Times Bestselling author. Some of his works include:
- Velvet Elvis
- Love Wins
- Everything is Spiritual
- How To Be Here
These works, along with "Where'd You Park Your Spaceship", are available at www.robbell.com.
#41
In this conversation Steve & Matt discuss:
Also referenced:
- Spiral Dynamics - including it's coverage by Ken Wilber in "Integral Spirituality: A Startling New Role for Religion in the Modern and Postmodern World"
#40
Steve & Matt discuss:
What it looks like to life transitions that include following Christ outside of weekly church attendance and what it means to find one's true self while navigating the choice to live life as a presence in community.
#39
Getting back into the groove of Whistle Pig & The Bear.
#38
Steve & Matt discuss:
- "In memoriam"
- Funeral home experiences in our small towns.
- We all grieve...uniquely (and that's okay).
- Streaming and the "all you can eat" buffet
- Familial practices
- "Everything fits"
Books discussed:
Dora, Alabama
Tazewell, Virginia
Appalachian Podcasters
#37
We're back!
After a much-needed break and lots of transitions, Steve & Matt are excited to be back for another run of conversations!
#36
#35 with Special Guest Chip Early
Special Guest Chip Early from Littleton Colorado.
Chip is a native of Winston-Salem, North Carolina and long-time friend of Steve & Matt.
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#33
Steve & Matt's conversation...
- New reads...Rupert Spira's "Being Aware of Being Aware"
- Matt's new cat Madelyn
- Two of Matt's former students from Southeastern University reach out with questions.
- "How are we reading the same Bible?"
- Water Brueggemann's "second naivety"
- Religious leaders' manipulation and attempt to control "the magic"...the Divine...work of the Spirit
- "Smoking what you're selling"...going all in...believing "they hype"
- Attempts to convert vs. conversations
- Matt and the Buddhist at Mount Rushmore on the 4th of July
- "Look at them in their idolatry"
- Appalachian Maple Bourbon
- Cutting back on the dairy.
- Chat GPT...the day the music changed
- Panpsychism
- Bill Wade
- "Jalen & Jacoby"...RIP
Life is too short, too hard, and too much to do alone. Find a friend, find a community, and do life together!
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#LoveWins #DeepakChopra #LeonardSweet #KeithGiles #BrianMcLaren #DianaButlerBass #RobBell #RichardRohr #Reconstruction #Faith #JesusWins #Buddhism #NonDualism #BothAnd #SoutheasternUniversity #EverythingBelongs #UniversalChrist #JosephMurphy #ExpandedConsciousness
#32
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#NCPodcast #Life #Spirituality #Bestfriends #CatchingUp #Jesus #LoveWins #Church #VirtualMonastery #Monks #NorthCarolinaPodcast
#31
Discussions around:
- Spotify 2022 Wrapped.
- Readers for Matt.
- Steve's & Matt's differing opinions on engagement with social media.
- Attention and energy loops.
- Rural Appalachian communities.
- Peace - Not the absence of fear/insecurity/conflict.
- Humanity's response to the Divine.
- Yeezy, Twitter, & Elon Musk
Follow and DM us on Instagram @whistlepig_thebear
#NCPodcast #Spirituality #LoveWins #Invitation #BetterTogether #Friendship #Divine #Jesus #Buddha #Energy #Church #Community #LGBTQ
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#29
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#cataractsurgery #TLC #envogue #ncretreat #perspective #rhythm #dynamicbalance #calendars #selfmedicate #limitations #marginalia #nooutlines #newbalance #bettertogether #ncpodcast
#28
- Lou Rawls
- Blue Like Jazz by Donald Miller
- Anne Lamotte
- Rachel Evans
- Alone
#27
Discussion on what's ahead for Whistle Pig & The Bear in 2022.
Steve encourages Matt to bring our Whistle Pig & The Bear lens to upcoming topics.
- Boogie Woogie Man Jimmy Valiant
- Tattoos
- GI Joe / Indian & The Cupboard
- The voices of Matt Huett
- Martyr syndrome
#26
Just a reminder...you don't have to always be "on".
Much Love.
Steve & Matt
#25
- Steve & Matt catch up from the past week's events and activities.
- Discussion on being informed, involved and active parents and educators in the lives of kids.
- Student loan forgiveness
- Othering & boxes
- Destro from GI Joe
#24
In this conversation Steve & Matt visit questions/comments submitted to us via our IG . Out of respect to you, we've elected to not use your actual names/info and will continue to do so without your expressed permission.
- "Hey guys I am loving the podcast. Seriously, brings me back to my SEU days and also helping me understand/process a lot of things since that time (gosh almost 20 years ago?!) Matt, in 2005 or so you told me I could do "good things…or do great things" when I was having an existential crisis about not following God's plan for my life and whether or not I wanted to be a doctor versus go into ministry like everybody else at SEU. Needless to say, I chose the MD route and I'm so thankful. Anyway, your podcast really helps me understand why I felt like such an outsider at SEU and why my beliefs never felt like they were in line with a lot of others. BL and I have been having some great conversations." - Friend
- "Not gonna lie Matt. I'm considering Hinduism. I even like Buddhism. Is it okay to appreciate all pathways to God? What are your thoughts [sic]." - Friend
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#23
Jumping through the hoops and checking the boxes. Do these and other ritualistic practices facilitate lasting change?
What's your thought? See our poll question included (Spotify users).
*This week's conversation was recorded remotely so please overlook the recording quality this week.
#22
Steve & Matt unpack about our experience presenting at, and attending, Wild Goose.
- Paula Stone Williams
- Jim Wallis
- Dianna Butler Bass
- Welcome Squad (university initiative at UNCSA developed by Steve)
- Shoutouts: Lou Scalzo, Gabe Stoutimore, Monte Fields, Brent Lutz, Jeremy Sims, Steve Witherup, Rob & Holli Sperti, David & Dara Docusen, John Bost, the states of Ohio and Alabama, Southeastern University (Lakeland) security team 1995-1999.
#21
In case you've just discovered us...
Steve & Matt are best friends of 30 years after both growing up in rural Appalachia...Steve from Virginia and Matt from Alabama.
Both of us were raised in the Assemblies of God (a Pentecostal denomination) and our paths crossed during our undergraduate years in college in central Florida where we became friends and roommates. A few years after college our paths crossed again when we accepted university administrator roles in the same department and then built houses beside each other with our spouses.
In the middle of our professional careers in church ministry and higher education, we individually realized the ambitions we'd been prescribed felt counter to our values and beliefs. Individually, we stepped away but remained best friends.
In an effort to honor our friendship, and to remind you that you're not alone, we began recording our ongoing conversations and are sharing them here with you. We hope you'll allow these conversations to be what you need them to be for your current place in life.
And if we can ever help, we hope you'll connect with us.
In this conversation:
- The Old Man on FX
- Second Coming by Mark Harris
- Chip Early
- Wild Goose Festival
- Sacred Enneagram by Christopher Heuertz
- Matt's Destiny
- The Second Coming/Rapture/End Times
- Author, Pastor, University Professor - Dr. Robby Waddell
- Keith Giles
- Backmasking
- Differential gears
- Dispensationalism
- Aleister Crowley
- High dives
- Find your Louise
#20
In this conversation:
- Flannel graphs
- Pete Rollins
- Pete Enns
- Shane Claiborne
- Blue Like Jazz by Donald Miller
- Emergent Church
- Lyotard, Derrida, Foucault
- NBA Trades
- Bobby Bonilla Day
- Sea Monkeys
- Eli Gemstone
- Tour of 1997
#19
- Burger King & Biscuit Factory
- Fluffered Nutters
- In the news this week
- Life & Choice Pro
- Deep inside the echo chambers
- Cult of innoncence
- Tea
- A-Team Shorts
- Schitts Creek
- Ebb & flow in the life of institutions
#18
...We're BACK!
After taking a break for a few weeks Steve & Matt are back and catching up on life and discuss how can we be there for each other during the highs and lows of life?
Also in this conversation:
- Teacher/Speaker/Author, Avivah Gottlieb Zornberg
#bestfriends #bettertogether #northcarolinapodcast #everythingisspiritual #lovewins #upsanddowns
#17
Steve & Matt discuss dealing with life's rollercoasters.
#16 - Special Guest Brian McLaren
Author Brian McLaren visits with Steve & Matt to discuss his latest work, "Do I Stay Christian? A Guide for the Doubter, the Disappointed, and the Disillusioned".
#15
For more info:
*Note - This recording experienced technical difficulties which have been corrected for our next conversation (#16).
#14
We're Back!
Featured topics this week...
- Dynamic Balance
- "7 Habits of Highly Effective People" by Stephen Covey
- Something learned from Dr. Mike Rakes
- Brain Pickings
- Steve & Matt have been invited to share at the Wild Goose Festival this summer (July 2022)
#13
Surprise audience member!
#12
WARNING: Around the 1:00:00 to 1:06:00 mark in this conversation Matt discusses a friend's recent mental health crisis/suicide.
- Little Debbie Nutty Buddy® Wafer Bars
- Bathtub Refuge for Matt
- Reading injury (in the bathtub)
- Steve's role in these conversations
- Matt's library
- Umberto Eco
- The journey of deconstruction --> reconstruction
- Head, heart, & hands
- The saunterer
- Friends named John
- CMC - American Jesus
- Keith Giles, Author
- Jaroslav Pelikan, Author
- "The Great Emergence: How Christianity is Changing & Why" by Phyllis Tickle
- The church's failure supporting mental health - a friend of Matt's mental health/suicide
- 2022 March Madness Men's Semi-Final: UNC vs Duke
Resource:
The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is a confidential hotline available to anyone experiencing a suicidal crisis or emotional distress. Their phone number is 1-800-273-8255.
For our friends listening in the UK - If you or someone you know are experiencing suicidal thoughts the UK National Suicide Prevention Lifeline phone number is 0800-689-5652.
#11
Mentioned in this conversation:
- John Bost - Author, Educator, Former Mayor of Clemmons, NC., Connector, Sage/Jedi Master
- Negative Space;
- FedEx and hidden designs in logos
- Dr. Terris Neuman - Professor/University Administrator, Silver Surfer
- Washington Park Barbershop in Winston-Salem, NC
- Zac Hagerty - Singer/Songwriter/Executive Producer
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#9
<li>If there's more... </li>
<li>Bryson City</li>
<li>Conduit</li>
<li>Honda Elements</li>
<li>Superheros</li>
<li>Jon Heder</li>
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#8
- The Royal Ranger Motto from the 1970's - "Ready. Ready for anything. Ready to work, play, serve, obey, worship, live, etc.
- "Naked Spirituality" by Brian McLaren
- René Girard
- "The Body Keeps Score" by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.
- "What Happened to You?: Conversations on Trauma, Resilience, and Healing" by Bruce D. Perry and Oprah Winfrey
- Deepak Chopra
- "Will" by Will Smith
- DDP Yoga
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#6
Mentioned in this conversation:
- Author Madeleine L'Engle
- Author|Futurist Leonard Sweet
- Author Brian McLaren
- Pentecostal Movement
- Kedging
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#5
Washington Football Team
Punxsutawney Phil
Tulsa Time by Don Williams
Saint Simeon
Christian Hermeticism
Desert Fathers
St Anthony / Antony the Great
The Sarum Rite / Body Scan
Lectio Divina
#4
Resources referenced in this conversation:
- Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid
- Walter Brueggemann
- Kenda Creasy Dean
- New Kind of Christianity by Brian McLaren
#3
#2
Steve & Matt discuss a few of the goals behind publishing these conversations.
#1
How Steve & Matt's friendship of thirty+ years began.