Christian Music Industry Podcast
By Wisdom Moon
Christian Music Industry PodcastNov 21, 2022
Demystifying A&R, Publishing, and Sync with Jess Loper of Red Street Records
On today's episode, Wisdom steps behind the curtain of the music business with Jess Loper, a seasoned veteran in the A&R and publishing world.
In this insightful episode, Jess shares her wealth of knowledge and experience, demystifying the often-opaque realms of artists and repertoire (A&R), music publishing, and sync licensing.
From scouting talent to navigating the intricate landscape of royalties and recoupment, Jess offers a rare glimpse into the inner workings of the industry. Whether you're an aspiring artist, songwriter, or simply a music enthusiast, this episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about the business side of music.
Jess Loper began her career in the newsroom serving as an Editor with Business Wire who services the Associated Press with press releases for publicly held companies. From there she took her love of words into the music industry in the A&R department at Capitol CMG/Universal Music. In this position, she was an integral part of the production process for CMG’s roster of artists (Amy Grant, Chris Tomlin, Kari Jobe, TobyMac, Passion/sixstepsrecords) while also working with business affairs, union negotiations, and film & tv licensing for the label.
In 2017, she joined the team at Gotee Records as VP of Brand Management (Gotee Records) and Publishing (Emack Music). Gotee Records and Emack Music are a record label and a music publishing and administration company started in 1994 under the leadership of artist, TobyMac and label president, Joey Elwood. In this position, she handled A&R for artists Jon Reddick, Hollyn, Aaron Cole, Joseph O’Brien, Charly Beathard, and RENEE, cultivated writer relationships for Emack writers Tyrus Morgan, Hunter Leath, Ben Shive, and Lindsey Sweat, assisted with film and tv placements (ESPN, Fox Sports, ABC, NBC & VH1) and handled administration for Man Cub Music (Bryan Fowler & Micah Kuiper).
Most recently, she launched Without Labels Collective, a company that focuses on music supervision and licensing for film & television (The Jesus Music Documentary, Trinity Broadcasting Networks, The Huckabee Show, Compassion International, and Thrive just to name a few). This new venture is also focused on educating and supporting songwriters & artists on the business side of the creative process. She serves on the Board of the CMPA and works closely with the GMA Dove Awards.
Outside of her career in the music industry, her writing has been featured in the Huffington Post & Business Week Magazine among other digital news outlets and printed publications. Her greatest role in life has been getting to be a mom to Brody (15) & Kellen (12). In the Spring of ’22, she married her favorite songwriter, Brent Loper, on the front porch of their little farmhouse in Culleoka, TN
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The Biggest Threat to an Artist's Success
Does the pursuit of perfection keep holding you back from releasing your music and making progress? On this week's episode, Wisdom Moon and Rachel Panasyuk tackle the crippling issue of perfectionism that plagues so many artists.
Whether you're agonizing over every detail of your new single or terrified to post that first video, this engaging conversation will provide encouragement and insights to help you break free from the shackles of perfectionism. Don't miss this insightful episode!
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Stop Releasing Music on Spotify
This week on the Christian Music Industry podcast, Wisdom Moon tackles the controversial topic of whether independent artists in the early stages of their career should stop releasing music on Spotify and other streaming platforms.
Joined by Rachel Panasyuk from Pure Mosaic Records, they dive deep into the rationale behind this advice and discuss practical strategies for building an authentic fanbase before investing heavily into releasing music. From leveraging social media and YouTube to gauging audience interest through covers and original snippets, Wisdom shares wisdom gained from over 17 years in the industry.
They also explore topics like finding your ideal fan, knowing when you're truly ready to launch music, the importance of consistency, and innovative content ideas for new artists starting from zero followers. Whether you're an aspiring artist or an industry veteran, this candid conversation offers fresh perspectives that could save you time, money and frustration on your musical journey.
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#WisdomfromWisdom: Do You Move at the Speed of Your Dreams?
In the fast-paced world of the music industry, it's easy to get caught up chasing your big dreams and aspirations. You want that record deal, that hit song, that taste of success. But oftentimes, artists move too quickly, burning bridges and burning out in the process.
In this insightful episode, we explore the importance of patience, steadiness, and building authentic relationships in your journey as a Christian artist. Don't miss out on this invaluable perspective!
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#WisdomfromWisdom: Are Christian Artists Lazy?
In this week's episode, Wisdom addresses a recent comment from a Christian music industry veteran that there's a perception of Christian artists being the laziest artists in the industry. From improving songwriting skills to embracing marketing and audience engagement, Wisdom discusses tangible ways that Christian artists can become known as the hardest-working and most faith-filled creators in the industry. Tune in for thought-provoking perspectives from Wisdom on marrying spiritual callings with professional dedication.
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Kevin Kookogey: An Entertainment Lawyer's Experience in the Christian Music Industry
In this episode, host Wisdom Moon sits down with veteran entertainment lawyer Kevin Kookogey, who has represented hundreds of artists, publishers, labels, and more over his 32-year career. Kevin shares the fascinating story of how he broke into the Nashville scene and landed his first major client, Newsboys, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the challenges of getting established. He goes on to deliver incredibly nuanced advice catered to today's music landscape - from typical label deal structures for new artists, to copyright and royalty considerations, to best practices for how churches should handle publishing with worship teams.
With an emphasis on clear client communication and viewing industry relationships as partnerships, Kevin draws upon his decades of experience to address complex issues like registering with performance rights organizations in easy-to-understand ways. Whether you're an artist, writer, pastor or label, this is an utterly invaluable masterclass in Christian music business and legal affairs from one of the industry's most respected names.
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#WisdomfromWisdom: Are You Striving?
In this episode, Wisdom explores the difference between striving out of fear versus putting in honest hard work while trusting God's timing. Wisdom shares how he believes striving often stems from the fear of missing out or not achieving certain milestones. In this thought-provoking episode, you'll be challenged to pause and reflect on areas where you may be striving instead of resting in faith. Tune in to hear a powerful perspective on letting go of forcing things to happen and finding peace by cultivating a strong work ethic anchored in trust.
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All In for Worship: Amanda Janson's Surprising Journey to Music Ministry
On this episode of the Christian Music Industry podcast, host Wisdom Moon sits down with singer-songwriter Amanda Janson. Amanda shares her incredible testimony of how she went from being a Broadway theater kid in New York City to becoming a follower of Jesus and pursuing a career in Christian music.
You'll hear the fascinating story of how a random Starbucks run and a Chick-fil-A sandwich played a pivotal role in her coming to faith. Amanda also opens up about her family's move to Nashville and how winning an online singing competition hosted by Rixon Entertainment unexpectedly paved the way.
Amanda gets vulnerable about the challenges of being a Christian artist, including placing false callings on your life versus pursuing what God has truly called you to. She discusses how the worship music genre has become her heartbeat and calling.
Additionally, Amanda shares practical insights on using platforms like TikTok for authentic ministry, the pros and cons of living in Nashville as a Christian artist, and her advice for independent artists seeking first the Kingdom of God. Don't miss this inspiring and story-filled episode!
Amanda Janson is a singer/songwriter, wife and mother of 3 based in Nashville, TN. After giving her life to the Lord in 2013, Amanda began leading worship and writing songs about her faith. Music is in her DNA and she couldn't imagine using her love for music in any other way than to serve the Lord. Her greatest desire is to release music that turns the listeners back to Him.
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BIG ANNOUNCEMENT!
Get ready for some exciting changes! In this solo episode, Wisdom explains his passion for coming alongside artists to guide them beyond just marketing techniques. He covers new offerings like one-on-one consulting sessions, ongoing coaching programs, and a partnership with Pure Mosaic Collective. If you're an indie artist looking to grow your music ministry, tune in to discover how Lula Music Group can equip you to make greater Kingdom impact with your music.
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Why Everything That Matters, Matters So Much: A Conversation with Charlie Peacock and Andi Ashworth
Host Wisdom Moon interviews veteran Christian music artist Charlie Peacock and his wife Andi Ashworth about their new book "Why Everything That Matters, Matters So Much", which shares stories and wisdom from their lives in music, art, food, marriage and more. They discuss the importance of vocational calling, living hospitably, embracing wisdom from elders, finding balance and rest, and valuing the small acts of service that change the world. Peacock also shares about his cinematic music podcast, Music and Meaning.
Charlie Peacock, born Charles William Ashworth in Yuba City, California is a Nashville-based, 4x Grammy® Award-winning, multi-format jazz and pop recording artist, composer and record producer. Peacock’s production credits range from Chris Cornell and Ladysmith Black Mambazo to AAA and Americana successes such as The Lone Bellow, Holly Williams, The Civil Wars, Ben Rector and Brett Dennen.
A native Californian, Andi Ashworth has lived in Nashville, Tennessee with her family since 1989. She is a writer and diarist, Master Gardener, cook, maker of home and lover of good books. Unique to her vocation, Andi has been a companion-along-the-way to many people, sharing stories about life and its challenges over meals, walks and cups of tea. After providing hospitality to thousands of people in her home, The Art House, it is her joy to be in a new home and a more private season of life, enabling her to create comfort and beauty on a smaller scale. She loves gathering her family around the table, discussions with her book group and Scrabble games with her husband – a perk of their later years.
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#WisdomfromWisdom: Growth through Spotify Playlists?
Spotify playlists can offer powerful growth opportunities for new artists, but simply landing a placement isn't enough. In this special mini-episode, Wisdom attacks the question, “Is it really worth putting effort into Spotify playlisting?” He weighs the pros and cons of a playlist-focused strategy, uncovering the value of a less playlist-centered approach. For aspiring musicians and seasoned pros alike, this wisdom-packed episode reveals how to leverage playlists as springboards, not destinations, on your journey from unknown to noteworthy.
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Nick Day with Bethany Music: Stewarding Influence with Jesus at the Center
In this week's episode of the Christian Music Industry Podcast, we have worship leader Nick Day from Bethany Music in Baton Rouge, LA. Nick shares raw and transparent insights about the journey of stewarding a growing social media platform with integrity. He talks about the boundaries and mindset shifts that help him stay grounded in his calling versus getting distracted by metrics. For worship leaders and creatives managing an online presence, Nick offers wisdom about protecting your intimacy with God and not putting the main focus on pursuing platform success. His story will inspire you to create from a place of authenticity rather than trying to manufacture viral moments. We hope you will walk away challenged to keep Jesus as the loudest voice directing your impact and influence.
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Longevity and Legacy: Meredith Andrews on Navigating the Peaks and Valleys of a 15-Year Music Career
In this week's episode, we are joined by veteran worship artist Meredith Andrews. She talks about the unique twists and turns of her extensive career in Christian music and the tension between building God's kingdom and pursuing personal success in the industry. Meredith transparently shares inspiring and surprising stories from her journey, including a pivotal moment early on when God spoke to her in a powerful way. She offers some thought-provoking insights for creatives trying to find community and build a career in Christian music.
Meredith also discusses the intriguing reasons she has chosen to partner long-term with the same record label despite challenges along the way. Meredith's words reveal so much wisdom gained from her 15+ years in the Christian music industry. Tune in to hear more!
Curb|Word artist, Meredith Andrews, is passionate about writing and leading songs that keep people's hearts and minds set on Jesus. The Dove Award-winning artist has been using her musical gifts, love for God, and her huge heart for His people - to teach and remind us all about the enormity of our awesome and loving Savior.
Meredith, who previously was on staff at Harvest Bible Chapel in Chicago now leads regularly at The Belonging CO, her home church in Nashville. As a gifted songwriter and recording artist, she has been a part of multiple songs sung by churches across America such as “Open Up The Heavens,” “Lamb of God,” “Not For A Moment,” and “Spirit of the Living God.” Meredith often leads worship at major women’s and/or worship leader conferences across the U.S. and has toured with Matt Maher, Natalie Grant, BigDaddy Weave, Vertical Church, Phil Wickham, and Michael W. Smith, among others.
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Celebrating 5 Years of Marketing with Wisdom and Reflecting on the Journey
Join us for a special episode of the Christian Music Industry Podcast celebrating Marketing with Wisdom's 5th anniversary! To mark the occasion, we have a very special co-host, Kennedy Richardson, who was with the MwW team from the beginning and has recently returned.
Wisdom takes us through starting MwW in 2018 - the vision, challenges, risks, and lessons of building a business from scratch. He and Kennedy discuss the growth over 5 years into a thriving community for Christian artists, reflecting on key milestones and setbacks along the way.
Most importantly, Wisdom shares how faith has guided him in starting and sustaining MwW - to honor God and serve others through excellent work. Whether you've been here from the start or just joined, you won't want to miss this inspiring look at how God can work through our steps of obedience.
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Keeping Worship Christ-Centered with BJ Putnam
On this episode, we had a great discussion with BJ Putnam from Bethany Music (Baton Rouge, LA) about his journey to becoming a worship leader and songwriter. He shares helpful tips for worship leaders about avoiding the entanglements of fame.
It was so encouraging to hear BJ's passion for composing vertical worship music that draws listeners closer to God. He provides thoughtful advice for keeping one's sight fixed on Jesus while leading and songwriting. We appreciate BJ's honesty and humility - tune in to be motivated by his dedication to selfless worship leadership.
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Unlocking the Heart of Worship Songwriting with Aaron Williams
On our latest episode, we welcome Aaron Williams from The Worship Initiative to discuss the journey of worship songwriting and leading. Aaron shares his story of growing up in a musical household and how he organically began writing worship songs. We discuss the importance of humility in songwriting, the role of community in maintaining spiritual health, and the significance of persevering through moments of burnout.
Get a sneak peek into the behind-the-scenes world of The Worship Initiative as Aaron gives insights into the team's collaborative efforts, their process of creating resources, and the balance between creativity and administrative tasks. Discover the art of staying inspired even when faced with writer's block, and the power of developing deep, lasting songs that resonate with people over time.
Join us at our Worship Songwriters Retreat this October 18-20 in Kansas City for the chance to gain even more knowledge from Aaron Williams and others! Go to rawkc.org/worship-songwriters-retreat to apply today; spots are limited!
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Coaching Session: Norden Pass
Welcome to the Christian Music Industry Podcast! We are excited to bring you the third coaching session interview with our special guests, Micah and Tuakah of Norden Pass, a dynamic duo with a passion for writing congregational worship music. They share their journey in worship ministry and how their friendship blossomed into a fruitful collaboration through their time serving the church together, expressing their concerns about staying up to date on social media and keeping their listeners engaged between releases. We hope this episode of the Coaching Sessions provides valuable insight for your own personal endeavors!
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Coaching Session: FAC Music
In the latest episode of the Christian Music Industry podcast, we are excited to bring you the second coaching session interview with our special guest, David Klob. David is a prominent member of FAC Music. We jump right into the conversation talking about the importance of having long-term goals and a clear vision for their music ministry. David's candid response highlights the need for a well-defined purpose to drive the creative process and keep the ministry's mission on track. Furthermore, we speak about the pain points that David and his team face in their ministry. David opens up about the challenges they encounter, particularly in terms of financial resources, as they strive to spread their uplifting message through the power of music.
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Coaching Session: JWOODZ
On this episode of the Christian Music Industry podcast, we have a special guest with us, Jordan Gatewood, also known as JWOODZ. Jordan poses some important questions about the music industry and building a fanbase. We dive into practical steps on how to grow your audience and what it takes to become a full-time artist. As an artist in the Christian music industry, JWOODZ brings a fresh perspective to the conversation. Join us as we explore the ins and outs and provide some valuable insights to help artists succeed.
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Laurel Taylor on Leaving Her Past Behind and Walking with Resilience
On this episode of the Christian Music Industry Podcast, I had the pleasure of interviewing Laurel Taylor, a talented musician who uses her gift of music to share the message of Jesus. Laurel's walk with Jesus began in a Christian household, where she learned about faith and the power of prayer from her parents. However, it wasn't until January 2015 when Laurel had a personal encounter with Jesus on the side of the road in Nashville that she gave her life fully to Him.
Laurel's journey has been a remarkable one. She moved from Tennessee, where she was pursuing a career in country music, to Alabama, where she made a bold declaration to God to not touch a guitar until He put something in front of her. The Lord answered her prayer by bringing a Christian music group to her attention, and she eventually moved to Indiana to learn, write, and grow in her faith. Through it all, Laurel has maintained a personal focus on relationships and using her music as a means of sharing her heart and story. "I don't care who I play for," she says. "I just want to get the Gospel out." Her passion for sharing Jesus has opened many doors for her in the music industry. She promotes herself to radio stations, and through these opportunities, she has been able to share the message of Jesus with a wider audience. It was a privilege to speak with Laurel, and we are excited to see how God continues to use her music to spread His message of love and hope.
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Sean BE on His Journey to Winter Jam
In the latest episode of the Christian Music Industry Podcast, we had the privilege of interviewing Sean BE, an artist who has made his transition from rap to pop music. Sean shares his journey of moving his family from Colorado to Nashville to pursue music full-time and how intricately God worked through this process. After deciding to be all-in with music, he was invited to be on the 2023 Winter Jam tour but struggled with feelings of inadequacy and comparison.
However, Sean's perspective has shifted since then, and he now approaches his performances with confidence, seeing them as opportunities to set the tone for people to hear the message of Jesus. It is inspiring to hear how Sean has allowed God to guide his music career, and his commitment to sharing the gospel through his art is truly commendable. Sean's story is a testament to the power of prayer and trusting in God's plan for our lives.
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The Journey of a Songwriter with Jonathan Ogden
On this episode, we are bringing back an interview from 2021 with Jonathan Ogden, a talented musician, producer, and designer from Manchester, UK. Jonathan Ogden is an artist who has greatly impacted the Christian music industry. In our interview, Jonathan shares his journey from growing up in the church and writing songs in his bedroom to making a full-time music career, reaching hundreds of thousands of people across the globe. He talks about the challenges he faced in his career, including the pressure to create music that resonates with listeners and staying true to his artistic vision. He also shares the importance of collaborating with other artists and how it has helped him grow as a musician and songwriter.
From delicate acoustic songs to jazz and hip-hop-infused pop, Jonathan crafts musical soundscapes that invite the listener on a journey. With a background in graphic design he is passionate about exploring the intersection of visual art and music to form a complete experience. Describing his songs as ‘prayers set to music’ he expresses his faith through psalm-like lyrics and sweeping, melodic instrumentation. Following the release of his beat tape, Twenty Four, and an acoustic EP, Songs From Home, Jonathan has now released his debut album Future Forever.
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The Journey of a Songwriter: Song Publishing with Mike Murray
This week's episode continues our series on The Journey of a Songwriter. We have Mike Murray joining us to talk about song publishing. He emphasizes the importance of networking and building relationships in the music industry. As a publisher, he meets with songwriters and artists to understand what they want to create and then connects them with other professionals, such as producers and writers, to bring their vision to life. This episode provides a fascinating insight into the world of song publishing and a music publisher's work. Mike's experience and industry knowledge offer valuable advice for aspiring songwriters and anyone interested in pursuing a career in the Christian music industry.
Mike has been working in Nashville with Christian record labels since 1997, serving 7 years with Capitol CMG, 5 years with Provident Label Group, 12 years with Integrity Music, and most recently has joined Hillsong Music Publishing as their Head of Creative (still based in Nashville). During those years, he has had the honor of working with GRAMMY, Dove Award and Stellar Award-winning artists and songwriters like Hillsong UNITED, Leeland, Kari Jobe, All Sons & Daughters, Benjamin Hastings, Matt Redman, Mitch Wong, Lincoln Brewster, Israel & New Breed, Ben Tan, Paul Baloche, William McDowell and more. Prior to his time with labels, Mike paid his "roadie" dues for a couple of years, touring with 4-Him and with Geoff Moore & The Distance.
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The Journey of a Songwriter: Writing Worship with Eric & Krissy Nordhoff
On today's episode, we talk about what it's like to work together in entrepreneurship as a married couple. Eric and Krissy Nordhoff share their journey of working in the Christian music industry, navigating the ups and downs as a couple and what they're doing to pour into a songwriting community.
Krissy Nordhoff is a Grammy® nominated (FAMOUS FOR(I BELIEVE)) and Dove Award® winning (YOUR GREAT NAME) professional songwriter and author. Her songs have been recorded by a variety of artists including Natalie Grant, Tauren Wells, Jenn Johnson (Bethel Music), Mandisa, Darlene Zschech, David and Nicole Binion, Travis Cottrell, Prestonwood Worship, Corey Voss, Dustin Smith, Phillips, Craig & Dean, and many others. Passionate about training and encouraging the next generation of worship songwriters, Krissy mentors, teaches and creates resources at WritingWorship.co. She recently penned a book, Writing Worship: How To Craft Heartfelt Songs for the Church (David C Cook) that offers spiritual and practical insights for aspiring songwriters and worship teams that want to write original songs for their church congregations.
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Should Artists Use AI Like ChatGPT?
On this week's episode, we are asking the question: "Should artists use AI like ChatGPT?" As technology continues to play a bigger role in the music industry, many artists are starting to experiment with AI-powered tools like ChatGPT. Some believe that these tools can help streamline the songwriting process and add a new layer of creativity to their music. However, others are wary of the implications of using AI, and worry that it could lead to a loss of authenticity in the music being created.
Join us as we talk about this fascinating and complex topic, as we discuss the pros and cons of using AI in Christian music. If you're a Christian artist and interested in the impact of technology in the music industry, this episode of the Christian Music Industry podcast is one you won't want to miss.
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Releasing Music as a Church: Marketing Strategies with Bethel Music's Marketing Director, Morgan Hill
On this episode, Wisdom Moon invites his friend and former colleague, Morgan Hill, for an insightful conversation around marketing your church's music releases. Morgan is the Marketing Director for Bethel Music and has worked with many churches to create marketing plans, release strategies and song resources over the years. Wisdom and Morgan worked together for several years at Integrity Music in publishing and marketing, promoting songs like "Great Are You Lord" and "We Believe" to worship leaders and churches around the globe.
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Releasing Music as a Church: Marketing Your Music
Welcome back to our series, 'Releasing Music as a Church', where we dive into the unique challenges and opportunities of creating and promoting Christian music within a church setting. In this fourth installment, we're going to be discussing the topic of marketing and how it applies to Christian music in a church context. From social media to in-person events, we'll be exploring the various ways churches can effectively promote their music and share their message with the world. Join us as we talk about the important role of marketing in the Christian music industry, and discover how your church can make the most of its music ministry.
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Releasing Music as a Church: Picking the Songs
This week, we were excited to address some of the questions from our listeners! We talked about the significance of establishing SMART goals that align with the church's music ministry's vision, obtaining feedback from trusted sources on selected songs, identifying an appropriate producer, appointing a publishing administrator to take care of registering songs with performing rights organizations and making sure that songwriters receive the proper credit and much more! Listed below are some of the admins we mentioned.
1. Songtrust
2. CD Baby Pro Publishing Administration
3. TuneCore Publishing
4. Music Services
5. Sentric Music
6. Lula Street Records
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Releasing Music as a Church: Building a Firm Foundation
We are continuing our series on Releasing Music as a Church. In this episode on building a firm foundation, we delve into identifying the purpose, creating a songwriting community, and ensuring that all the essential aspects of publishing and administration are taken care of. Building a solid foundation before releasing music as a church is crucial in ensuring that your church, and everyone involved, is protected from any unintentional issues in the future, which is key to longevity. If you want to cultivate a healthy music ministry culture, this episode is a must.
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Releasing Music as a Church: Count the Cost
Releasing music as a church can be a powerful way to share your message and ministry with a wider audience. But it can also come with challenges and risks that you need to consider before diving in. In this podcast, we'll explore some of the pros and cons of churches releasing music, and offer some tips for self-assessment and successful execution. Whether you're a musician, a pastor, or just a fan of Christian music, this episode will help you think critically about releasing music as a local church community and its impact on your mission.
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The Fine Print of Being an Artist You Didn't Know About
Sometimes Christian artists can over-spiritualize everything that has to do with their music. On this episode, Wisdom Moon sheds light on things that most artists don't think about or are aware of when they decide to pursue doing music. He also talks about the importance of stewardship and the many roles that artists have to fill.
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7 Tools to Help You Be More Organized
Need help getting more organized as a Christian artist? Whether you’re currently managing everything by yourself or have a team around you, today’s episode is for you! Wisdom Moon shares 7 tools that will help you get more organized as an artist.
*Please excuse the clicking sound you may notice in the audio. Our recording software had an issue, which was not noticeable during the recording.
The tools shared on the podcast:
- Google Calendar
- Calendly or Acuity Scheduling
- Asana or Notion
- Social media management software
- ActiveCampaign
- Google Drive / Sheets / Docs
- Analytics Dashboard
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How to Sing - Sammie & Bethany Lee
Are you a singer? On this episode, Wisdom Moon interviews vocal coach, Bethany Lee and her husband Sammie Lee, about her new course for singers - How to Sing: A Practical Vocal Guide by Bethany Lee. Bethany's been singing professionally and teaching singers for over 13 years. With two decades of training under her belt, Bethany's passion is to help singers discover their healthiest, most authentic, and beautiful sound!
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5 Tips for Your Holiday Release
Are you releasing Christmas music this year? On this episode, I share 5 practical tips for releasing your Christmas music, but even if you aren't releasing any this year, most of these tips are applicable for any type of release throughout the year. Be sure to listen to this episode if you want to be as effective as possible with your new music releases.
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Lydia Laird on Mental Health, Social Media and Accountability
Christian artist and songwriter, Lydia Laird, joins me this week to talk about her social media post that I shared on the podcast a couple of weeks ago. We also talk about the importance of addressing mental health and accountability in the Christian community. Lydia also shares her insights from her experience going from an independent artist to signing to a major label and being an indie artist again.
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5 Tips for Utilizing Social Media As An Artist
As a follow-up to last week's episode "Should You Quit Social Media?", I share some listener feedback and how people have been responding to the episode. I also share 5 tips for utilizing social media effectively as a Christian artist.
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Should You Quit Social Media?
Do you struggle with social media? Do you feel a sense of pressure to have a huge social media following? Do you sometimes want to just quit social media or quit trying to pursue being an artist because of your frustrations with social media? On this episode, Wisdom Moon shares an Instagram "rant" post by a Christian artist about social media and shares his thoughts.
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What Christian Record Labels Are Looking For
Ever wonder what A&R folks at record labels are looking for in artists? On this episode, we share a snippet of a private session that Centricity Music's Sr. VP of A&R, John Mays, taught for the Christian Artist Mentorship program in Spring 2022. If you're interested in joining the next Christian Artist Mentorship group, visit https://christianartistmentorship.com/ -you'll get to hear from John as he teaches this session again!
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Best Release Strategy for Indie Artists
Are you wondering how to best release your music with the limited budget you have? On this episode, Wisdom Moon (founder of Christian Music Marketing) shares some helpful insights for releasing your music, what to look for when looking for a streaming marketing service and more! This episode is a must-listen for any artists that want to avoid wasting money on services and marketers that promise you # of streams...but end up not helping you grow your fanbase.
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How Streaming Marketing Works
We're excited to announce a new format for the podcast! We will be focusing upcoming episodes (for a season) on practical tips, insights and guidance for independent Christian artists, instead of artist interviews. Our desire is that this podcast is the independent Christian artist's #1 Go To Podcast to get equipped and empowered to practically walk out their calling.
In this episode, we share a portion of our Streaming Marketing session we did with a small group of Christian artists. If you're interested in being a part of the next group that's starting Sept 22, 2022, head over to christianartistmentorship.com for details and to apply. Space is limited!
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Wisdom from Wisdom + Our Agency's 4-Year Anniversary
Our recent guest, Pauline Zoe Park, returns to the podcast but this time as the interviewer! Wisdom Moon invites Pauline to this special 4 year anniversary episode. Pauline interviews Wisdom about his journey in ministry, the Christian music industry, and launching a Christian marketing agency 4 years ago and a record label last year. Listen as Wisdom shares his insights and encouragement for Christian indie artists!
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Aaron Williams of The Worship Initiative - Getting Vulnerable About Loneliness
Have you ever felt lonely as an artist, a creative, a worship leader or just as a Christian? Aaron Williams of The Worship Initiative gets vulnerable on this podcast about some of his recent hard seasons of life, including a move across states, a new job and confronting loneliness. We also discuss some practical ways to journal and the benefits of processing your thoughts through writing. Plus, we talk about Aaron's debut album, The Hope of Christ.
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Pauline Zoe Park - Christian Music 2.0: Soul Songs for the Next Generation
"Christian" vs "secular music and ministry vs money are just a couple of the topics we cover with independent Asian-American artist, Pauline Zoe Park, on this episode. We also dive into her journey as one of the few female Asian-American artists in Christian music and the challenges and opportunities that come along with that. Pauline also talks openly about her journey of overcoming fear & navigating purpose and calling as a Christian artist.
Pauline Zoe Park is a soul, pop, and R&B singer, songwriter, and producer based in Malibu, CA. Her original songs, "Sunflower" and "Changing", have touched the hearts of hundreds of thousands around the world and garnered millions of streams. As a cultural and musical pioneer in many ways, Pauline carries a passion to expand the boundaries that define Christian music, sing the untold stories of the Christian walk, and be a voice of healing for the next generation.
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Todd McVicker - You Were Created to Create
Whether you're a stay-at-home mom, work full-time in accounting or write songs, Todd McVicker says we are ALL meant to be creative / to create! This was such an encouraging, life-giving discussion about creativity in the church, overseas and local mission trips + much more.
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Shaylee Simeone - Navigating the Christian Celebrity Culture + Sync Licensing
Singer/songwriter, Shaylee Simeone's story is chock full of taking one faith step at a time. In this interview, Shaylee shares her journey from not knowing anyone in the Christian music industry to seeing sync and streaming success and getting signed to Lula Street Records. If you need encouragement and inspiration in your life right now, be sure to listen to this episode!
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Stephen McWhirter - From Meth Addict to Worship Leader & Songwriter
Stephen shares about his journey from meth addict to worship leader, songwriter and artist. He also shares helpful tips and insights on songwriting and co-writing. We also discuss the impact of non-Christians writing some of the worship songs and Christian songs that we sing at church and hear on Christian radio. Stephen also shares the importance of prayer and seeking God's direction as an artist/songwriter.
Stephen McWhirter is a songwriter and recording Artist with Lula Street Records in distribution with Integrity Music. He is also a touring worship leader, producer, speaker, and author, seeing thousands come to Christ through God’s calling on his life and his powerful testimony of God transforming him from meth addict to worship leader. Also, Stephen is formally one of the prominent songwriters and voices for the worship collective, Iron Bell Music, which was signed to Essential Worship and Provident Label Group.
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Daniel Bashta - Ministry, Addiction and Recovery
If you haven't heard the name Daniel Bashta in a while and wondered, 'Whatever happened to Daniel?'...on this episode, Wisdom Moon invited Daniel to share his journey over the past several years. Daniel unpacks how his life of ministry, songwriting and artistry spiraled into a serious addiction and seeking therapy and recovery. This interview is raw and vulnerable.
Daniel Bashta has written songs that have been recorded and sung all over the planet by the Newsboys, Third Day, David Crowder, Passion Band, Jesus Culture and Bethel Music. Perhaps best known for penning the worship anthem Like a Lion(Gods Not Dead). Relevant Magazine has said, “Bashta’s music is simultaneously organic and arena-ready, filled with both intimacy and soaring cries to God.” Worship Leader Magazine gave his last record “The Invisible” 5 stars saying “There is something that comes alive in your soul when you hear something clearly outside the popular and proven approaches to worship music. “Bashta’s vocal power is passionate yet graceful, It’s Rufus Wainwright meets Keith Green.
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Sam Hart - From Christian Hip-Hop to Nashville Producer
Ever wonder how producers get started in their careers? Or, how to find the right producer for your project? In this episode, Wisdom Moon talks with producer/songwriter, Sam Hart, about his experience in a Christian Hip-Hop group, working in full-time church ministry, experiencing ministry burnout, and now producing and writing Christian songs in Nashville.
Sam Hart is married to his high school sweetheart, Christin, and they have three amazing kids. They live near Franklin, TN where he is a full-time Christian & Worship Music Producer and Songwriter. Over the last two decades, Sam's been involved in the Christian music industry in various ways including as a touring musician, signed artist, and worship pastor. Some recent highlights include producing on projects by artists such as Aaron Shust, Paul Wright, Tasha Layton, and Curb Records artist Jackson Michelson. Sam's also had the recent privilege of writing with the legendary Tony Wood, Jess Cates, Bethel-writer Michaela Gentile, and many others.
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Cheri Keaggy - Processing Grief Through Songwriting
Christian music veteran, Cheri Keaggy, shares her journey from a worship leader at a small church to a nationally touring CCM artist. Cheri vulnerably shares about her divorce and losing her father to suicide. Some great insights and encouragement for songwriters and artists that desire to have longevity with their music ministry.
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Caroline Cobb - What is Success in God's Kingdom?
Success can be a challenging thing to measure or feel like you're achieving. On today's episode, singer/songwriter Caroline Cobb shares her perspective on what success means in the Kingdom of God. Caroline also talks about her approach in songwriting and touring + what life looks like as a mother of 3 creating and releasing music.
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