Why Won't You Love Yourself?
By Lee & Nuri
Why Won't You Love Yourself?Mar 28, 2021
New Year Newri Newlee
Baby can't you seeeEeEe? You belong with meEeEeEeee! It's a new year, new episode, and we're coming out as #Swifties! As in we'll swiftly leave the room if Taylor is playing.
It's been a long time since we've caught up so obviously, the first thing Nuri needed to vent is about someone famous he saw. Take tips if you don't want to rub Nuri the wrong way (or the right way... 😏)
A lot has happened since our last episode! Nuri talks about his trip to see Lee in LA and what his favourite parts were (🍆? 💦???!) and Lee may or may not tell a little story what "fun" he might've had at Taiwan pride.
We also apparently regress back to our first few episodes where we talk a lot about belonging. What does it mean to "belong" in a community or a city? Why is it so difficult to make new gay friends the older you get?
Thank you for listening and supporting us after THREE. WHOLE. YEARS?!? It was also really nice getting to see people in person who support the pod!
Authenticity (re-upload)
Originally published February 1, 2021
Our apologies for the late release; we were having an OnlyFans dinner in PV. But really though.... Can you believe it? EPISODE TEN. 🥳 🎊🎉
After a brief stint of just bantering, we’re finally back on a topic!
On the subject of being late as well, we’re a few weeks behind but we address the whether or not people should cancel gays over covid, @GaysOverCovid, or #GaysOverGaysOverCovid...
We also talk about some listener DMs— specifically one that unabashedly called one of us bitter. But who’s the actual bitter one and who’s just secretly hiding it?
And in the spirit of continuing this never-ending saga/story of Lee’s confrontation, he has an update on something else that happened and it might’ve unlocked a repressed memory from Nuri.
OUR MAIN TOPIC OF THE WEEK... month..... whenever we want(?)..... is authenticity and clout-chasing, sprinkled in with a little talk of validation. What does it mean to be authentic on the internet? Do people deserve authenticity? What are the differences between being transparent and being authentic? Will anything Nuri says about this topic sound cohesive and non-self-contradictory? Who knows?
Our last lil bit to end off the show (forever!!!!) ((jk)) is Nuri leaving. Lee decided to surprise Nur with a little list of “top Nuri and Lee moments”— which also threw Nuri off because he doesn’t top that often. (jk only if ur really cute.)
Will he be back from the cold hell that is Calgary?! Will he finally ride a cowboy?!
Thirst Traps (re-upload)
Originally published May 16, 2020
We’re queer, we’re here, and we’re about to get canceled! Join us as we examine our bad life decisions, talk shit, and take a deep dive into our personal stories and experiences of being gay and Asian. Sometimes funny, mostly not serious.
In this premier episode, we talk about Gaysians at EDC, sincerity in Tinder bios, Lee goes on an apology tour, and Nuri finds a community through posting thirst traps on Tumblr.
No Pride but Plenty of Prejudice
We're back to celebrate the end of summer with a new episode! Here's hoping that listening to us ramble won't make you a little homophobic.
We do a quick catch-up about what's been going on. Is Nuri going to be a potential reality tv star in the making? What kind of fun interactions did Lee recently have with the LA #gaysian community?! How many donks will Nuri manage to engulf on his trip to LA? (Hopefully, any number more than none would be ideal.)
Our main topic is Pride! What does it mean to be "proud" of your community and what our own personal experiences with all the festivities and parades are. What is it about pride season that resonates with us (Spoiler alert: nothing???) and how do we see ourselves fitting in with everyone else? (Spoiler alert: we don't????)
If you have a topic or idea for the pod, please send it to us! If you have a big th**k unc** ** for Nuri, please also send that into the DMs too. We'll be hanging out in LA for the next few days as well! Thank you for all the support and feedback we've been receiving!
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OLDJNS
Hi, it's us again, we're back. Let's talk ASAP. Do you have the time? Let's talk! 🐰
Lots and lots of big changes here on the pod since the last time we've released an episode! Nuri came ** * ***, Lee ** and ** * **.... You'll have to listen to find out. 😜 (Although genuinely, it's no news that we're both in different cities again.
We catch up on our trip to EDC... again?! For two people who consistently talk about how much they don't care for it, we sure do end up there a lot. There are some stories that may or may not involve surprises, rolling, moaning, d**ching, and finding peace amongst a sea of sweaty shirtless gaysians.
Oh, and we can't forget about all the drama that came out of what transpired between a certain Vancouver gaysian and what felt like the (w)hole of the community.
And on the topic of making enemies, we find out who Lee's offended since moving back to LA and what kind of fights he's gotten into. You'd be surprised to know that in a short period of time and in a city that big, he somehow managed to see a controversial figure from his past.... Were drinks thrown? Did someone get physically and verbally attacked? Or has Lee finally entered his #peaceful and #unproblematic era and not create any new enemies?!
Now that we live in different cities again, we do want your feedback on what kind of episodes you'd want from us! Did everyone prefer ones that were a little more serious and subject-based or would y'all rather us spread gossip from our cities and catch up regularly on what's been going on? We're past the point of promising ever releasing anything consistently but we're still going to be here as often as we can! 😵💫
Thank you for the support! And if you're in LA in September, Nuri's going to be visiting so please send some pole referrals his way.
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SEX
Banana dipped in chocolate...
A selection of listener submitted stories featuring poop, fisting, military sex, feet, taboo sex, 1nc3st, sex with friends, sex with strangers, sex parties... please enjoy!!!
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Rolling and Trolling for Tongue (at EDC)
Hi gay! Happy Pride month! It would be homophobic of us to not release something, wouldn't it?
We're back like an elephant with a vengeance! In this episode we talk about our recent New York City trip, EDC and the new movie Fire Island!
Why did we end up having an argument in Vegas? What kind of sticky situations did Lee find his hands full of in a Vegas hotel room surrounded by gaysians?.... And why is Nuri now coming out as a home of phobe?
And to wrap it all up, we talk about the new movie Fire Island (featuring Joel Kim Booster and Bowen Yang, directed by Andrew Ahn), as well as some parallels to our recent Vegas trip— such as social hierarchy, the desire to fit in, as well as the need for validation. Please watch the movie! It's so significant to have a film released that's written by, directed by, and starring gaysians. It's kinda like the Crazy Rich Asians of our community, except they both end up fucking white men at the end. (Which... I guess does happen.)
If you've watched it, let us know which one of us is more Bowen(Howie) and who is more Joel(Noah)!
Thank you for the support and it was nice seeing everyone at EDC who came up to us! We hopefully plan on doing shorter but more frequent episodes! Bye gay!
Getting Some D
Normally, our episode descriptions are a lot more light hearted... Like which one of us knew someone in high school who ate a cupcake covered in *? What kind of drama and gossip happened during a famous Gaysian DJ's visit to Vancouver?! (Hey @dnzamusic) And has all this TikTok fame gotten to Lee's head, thus creating a riff in our relationship?!??!!??
Jokes aside, in this episode, Nuri and Lee are finally going in deep with each other. Lee gets to prod Nuri's deepest, darkest holes while Nuri gets a mouthful of Lee's d...epressive episodes?
We talk a lot in this episode about how we've overcome our individual battles with depression, as well as the importance of having a forum to actually be able to speak freely about mental health within the gay and Asian community. We promise that while we do touch on a sensitive and uncomfortable subject for most people, you'll definitely get a laugh or two out of it.
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EDC = Erotic Distant Cousin
We’re back! New year, new us, except this was recorded last year so we’re still chaotic and messy. Which one of us is longing for a gentle touch or some tongue action from a brotherly figure? (Hint: obviously it’s the only child).
In this episode, we quickly recap the past months including Lee’s trip to an exclusive, invite-only homepa when we went to Vegas for EDC and Nuri’s newfound addiction to narcotics. For legal reasons, that’s a joke. Don’t do drugs.
We also carry in the tradition of having a Christmas confrontation and take a moment to allow Lee to speak his truth about something that’s been affecting him for the better half of the year now.
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Shang-Chi and the Seven C*ck Rings
Is this our most chaotic episode yet??? Come along for a WILD ride as we touch on Shang-Chi (who wouldn’t want to touch Simu? And Tony Leung, hello), some quick life updates, a discussion on submissive and breedable gaysians, Awkwafina, daddy figures, fingers in mouths, porn, molly and a gigantic fight that led to Lee and Nuri almost ending their friendship. This entire episode is basically Lee getting (de)railed by Nuri because Nuri made the wise decision to take some edibles (for the “first”-ish time) before recording. Enjoy!
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Thot Shit + Q&A (Queers & Ass)
In this explosive first episode of our second season, we catch up and update on each other’s lives. Did Nuri recently self-diagnose himself with BPD? Did Lee actually get diagnosed with sleep apnea? Spoiler: the answer to both is yes. We also talk about how we’re slowly adapting to the reopening of everything, and while one of us is enjoying kiki’-ing with the gays again, the other is completely not ready to socialize. Lee also shares an embarrassing encounter recently.... ish.
Then we dive into some listener questions! Look forward to hearing some self-care tips from someone who does the absolute bare minimum to take care of himself, and our experiences with betrayal, social anxiety, awkward dates, and a debate on whether there’s a stigma(?) of having STIs in the gaysian community. Which one of us has had everything under the sun? And which one of us wants to clone himself for the betterment of the world? You’ll have to listen to find out.
Oh and we (sort of) bring back the Why Won't You Love Yourself segment where we go off on some Tik Tok thirst trappers and toxic advice givers. Yuck!
If there’s any questions that we haven’t addressed or answered, shoot us a DM on Instagram or anonymously on our Ask.fm! Link in our bio. And while you’re there, you might as well leave us a review on Apple Podcasts!
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BONUS - Thirst Traps: One Year (and six weeks) Later
To celebrate our (late.... late....... late.........) one year anniversary, we decided to record ourselves reacting to the very first episode! We cringe at the things we say, repeat ourselves over and over, and dissect whether or not Lee has gotten better at telling stories. (Spoiler alert: No.)
This is a VIDEO episode, so hit up our Instagram or YouTube and check it out there.
Monogamy
More than a year into this Panera Bread and we’re still barely getting by. Nuri gives some quick updates to his situation in Calgary since he’s stuck in isolation and we both issue some context to (TW: Unfunny Content) Lee’s most recent IG post.
We also talk about our Gaysian celebrity icon, the one and only #Wonho, and his accidental revealing slip-up. #WENEEs unite! We have to make sure his music career flops so he resorts to other things for money.... (👀 onlyfans.com/wonhole???)
Our main topic of discussion is #monogamy, #openrelationships, and #polyamory— something that most of us have been exposed to in the #gay(sian) community. Do you know any long-term #gaysian relationships? What leads someone to an open relationship? Do we have any tea to spill on any polyamorous couples? And what do we think about potentially being open? (The answer is that everything would be open for Wonho— the relationship, the bank account, and Nuri’s legs.)
And we pose a question to our listeners: what’s more important to you in a relationship? Emotional compatibility, sexual compatibility, or same sense of humour? Or does a huge, thick, and girthy dick override the need for any of that? (jk) Sound off on our IG and let us know what you think!
SEGMENT 1: Catching Up
SEGMENT 2: Wonho's Weenie
SEGMENT 3: Monogamy
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Online Friends
You know how growing up, your parents would always tell you to not talk to strangers online? Well— now you get to see what happens when one of us took that advice seriously and the other catfished as a white twink in his mid-twenties online to build confidence in his own personality.
In this episode, we talk about Nuri’s move to Calgary and how it’s affected his mental health, Lee’s obviously miserable and lonely time back home in Vancouver without the gracious presence of Nuri, and the queen of the internet Trisha Paytas @trishapaytasbackup.
We also delve into the subject of making friends online and what led the both of us into having such drastically different experiences, along with whether or not meeting people off a dating app could be considered making friends.
Honestly, we appreciate everyone for putting up with our infrequent releases. Thank you for joining us on this ride.
SEGMENT 1: Nuri
SEGMENT 2: Stop Asian Hate
SEGMENT 3: Lee
SEGMENT 4: Trisha Paytas
SEGMENT 5: Online Friends (Tumblr, Tik Tok, Discord, Clubhouse)
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All I Want for Christmas is Confrontation
Ho ho ho, it’s a holigay(sian)! Episode 9. Wow, who knew that we’d make it this far? (Truly--neither of us did either.)
This is our last episode of the year and it is jam-packed:
SEGMENT 1: Confrontation - 3:11
- Why is Lee not afraid to confront people?
SEGMENT 2: Christmas - 14:50
- Why does Nuri hate Christmas?
SEGMENT 3: Clout Chasing - 25:30
- What is authenticity in the age of social media?
SEGMENT 4: Being Mean - 35:00
- Confessions of one mean gaysian to another
SEGMENT 5: 2020 & 2021 - 40:50
- Reflection...who is that girl I see?
- Lessons, hopes, and dreams (lol)
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Bleep Bleep Bleep
Lee and Nuri bleep each other while bleeping, and Nuri bleeped all over him own face... jk. Well, there’s quite a bit of censorship in this episode because the gaysian community is tiny and we are *not* a call-out podcast… or are we? This episode will feature the conclusion to Lee’s saga of coming face-to-face with his “accuser.” Find out also what makes us both ask the question, “is dick cheese dairy?”
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Reputation
ARE YOU READY FOR IT?
In this episode, we recap our trip to Sooke, Lee’s traumatic experiences with the game Truth or Dare with gaysians, and Nuri’s experience which left a stain on this memory.
This deep dive is all about reputation in the gay(sian) community. We know most of you have been in the situation where you match with someone on Tinder, find their Instagram, and immediately message your friends who are mutuals with them and ask what they know about the person.
Thank you again for listening and please support us by rating and reviewing us on iTunes and checking out our video episode on YouTube!
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Grindr: Filter by Tribe
In this week's episode: We get our first special guest appearance! Welcome Dennis Nguyen to their podcast debut! Who is he? Listen and find out.
Nuri gets a special message on Reddit requesting him to utilize his skills to make a quick buck— what is it?!
Lee also has an update on his search for a new place. 2020 might finally be his year!(?)
H-HOW YOU LIKE THAT? We didn’t.
And Lee also doesn’t like that Hermes belt that’s haunting him in the promo pic.
We discuss and disseminate some Gaysian groups in this week’s main topic (@14:06) but we can’t talk about being gay and Asian without mentioning a certain Hawaiian #Legend and #Icon that everyone knows, especially if you’re from Tumblr circa the 2010s.
Skip to 43:18 to hear us answer this week's listener question!
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Mean Gaysians
In this episode, we discuss the importance of the Black Lives Matter movement, Lee addresses Nuri’s haters and talks about sleeping with friends, and Nuri comes to the realization that having a group of gaysian friends stopped him from sucking white dick (kinda)!
For more resources and information on how to support the BLM movement, visit https://blacklivesmatter.com/ (blacklivesmatter.com/) If you’re financially unable to contribute any donations, consider doing some “ad-tivism” by looking for Zoe Amira’s video on YouTube!
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